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[16:09] chealer are others seeing Fivealive's header half-broken in 15.x?
[16:19] chibaguy Hi chealer. How is it broken? Is this in the classic layout template, or other layout template?
[16:23] chibaguy Hmm, I can't get out of the "Possible cross-site request forgery (CSRF, or "sea surfing") detected. Operation blocked.
[16:23] chibaguy " loop"
[16:23] chibaguy clicking to confirm my action just brings the error message again.
[16:24] chibaguy ok, finally got the theme and layout changed. bbl - got to eat now.
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[17:24] chibaguy Fivealive's header seems ok to me (checked with classic tiki layout).
[17:25] chealer Hi chibaguy. I'm lucky today :-)
[17:25] chealer chibaguy: I tried both kiwi and the default
[17:26] chealer chibaguy: there are several issues. I lost the login module, for one thing. I should provide screenshots.
[17:27] NoteOn where u get csrf?
[17:28] NoteOn if its admin -> search then do admin work, seems me few are not token there. 15.2
[17:28] NoteOn so you get csrf error.
[17:28] NoteOn but in same function, from amdin -> function -> part its ok.
[17:28] NoteOn I didn't memo for report. but I got sometimes.
[17:29] NoteOn if you get csrf at all part of input its theme or tpl issue.
[17:30] chealer chibaguy: the website is semi-private. I sent you the URL privately to avoid indexing.
[17:30] chealer I can provide an admin account if you want.
[17:31] chealer for a second thing, the 2 icons (including Quick Administration) do not display unless the mouse hovers them.
[17:32] chealer this is on r60014 (r60030).
[17:33] NoteOn huum, its theme teplate issue.
[17:33] NoteOn check your extra stuff, such as costom css, costom html etc..
[17:34] NoteOn sometimes I get mistalke -> there is broken part at top of site, then all css hteml gose broken,
[17:34] NoteOn in all part, so its good to check html source view 1st
[17:35] NoteOn ie. final out of html when you get bad.
[17:40] chealer here is how Fivealive looked prior to the upgrade: http://www.philippecloutier.com/screenshot%20Tiki%209%20fivealive.png
[17:43] NoteOn seems me css issue
[17:44] NoteOn left is blank. so you better to cehck dev mode of browser firefox chrome,
[17:44] chibaguy chealer, can you change the layout template to "classic tiki" on tiki-admin.php?page=look ?
[17:46] chibaguy That should also fix the icon contrast problem.
[17:47] chibaguy NoteOn, I think the problem is using the Fivealive theme with the "basic" layout template.
[17:48] NoteOn ah ic
[17:48] chibaguy The theme isn't designed for that template.
[17:49] chibaguy (Although we should improve Fivealive theme on basic template, at least to fix page header color contrast problems.
[17:49] chealer chibaguy: which tab is that in?
[17:50] NoteOn its in tiki-admin.php?page=look
[17:50] NoteOn and "Site layout"
[17:50] chibaguy "Theme" (first tab) but be sure you have "advanced features" checked under "Preference filters".
[17:51] chibaguy (funnel icon)
[17:51] chealer NoteOn: I have cleared all cache and this happens in 2 browsers on 2 tested (Iceweasel and Chromium)
[17:52] NoteOn no sure basic layout is, its classic?
[17:52] chibaguy NoteOn, no, basic layout is basic Bootstrap. Classic tiki is pre-bootstrap tiki layout (but updated for bootstrap).
[17:52] NoteOn if so, BasicBootStrap you set to fix for Fivealive? not tested
[17:53] NoteOn ? but I setup that combi in 15.2 no problem.. let me check again
[17:53] chibaguy Basic has just one container div. Classic has three - one in page header, one in middle, and one in page footer.
[17:55] NoteOn Site layout : BasicBootStrap
[17:55] NoteOn Theme : all of default setuped 15.2 .. United.. fivealive.. etc
[17:56] chealer chibaguy: heh. preference filters do not show :-P
[17:56] NoteOn this is my current setup.
[17:57] NoteOn u mean some of theme makes broblem? or that issue(chaler's) is at other part?
[17:57] chibaguy chealer, no funnel/filter icon at top left of the admin icons?
[17:57] chibaguy (on tiki-admin.php?page=look)
[17:58] chibaguy chealer, in my branch 15 Fivealive/Kiwi page source, I see this rule: .layout_basic .top_modules {
[17:58] chibaguy background: url('../images/siteheadertile.png') 0 0 no-repeat;
[17:58] chibaguy }
[17:58] chibaguy But I don't see that in your page source.
[17:58] chealer chibaguy: oh. you just learned me the meaning of "funnel", but yes. sorry, thanks
[17:58] chibaguy heh
[17:58] chibaguy sorry.
[17:59] chibaguy (In trunk, that icon is gone - replaced by a slide toggle.)
[17:59] chealer NoteOn: are you aware you can complete IRC nicknames using the tab key?
[18:00] NoteOn ? sorry I can't understand.. im bad for english
[18:00] NoteOn tab key?
[18:00] NoteOn chealer: you mean this?
[18:01] chealer NoteOn: if you type "chiba", then press the Tab key of your keyboard, most IRC clients, will complete to "chibaguy".
[18:01] NoteOn ya ok, I use it.
[18:01] NoteOn chealer: I just didn't. and I know that way
[18:01] NoteOn sorry for that.
[18:01] chealer NoteOn: no problem
[18:01] chibaguy chealer, your page looks good now except to increase padding here: .box-logo > div > .sitelogo + .sitetitles {
[18:01] chibaguy padding-left: 15px;
[18:01] chibaguy }
[18:02] chibaguy ...to push the site title into the darker background color completely.
[18:03] chealer chibaguy: changing from "Basic Bootstrap" to "Classic Tiki" helped a lot functionally, though esthetically it might be even worst.
[18:03] chibaguy chealer, does clearing the tiki caches help?
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[18:11] chealer thank you chibaguy. unfortunately not.
[18:11] chibaguy chealer, what is the functional problem(s)?
[18:12] chealer chibaguy: this is first time post-12.x, but I do not see any remaining functional problem at first sight.
[18:13] chealer so you do not get this esthetical problem with Fivealive in 15.x?
[18:14] chibaguy which esthetical problem?
[18:14] chibaguy The spacing in the header?
[18:15] chealer chibaguy: mostly the title's position, yes
[18:16] chealer good thing we have icons. would be hard to use the demo when it's in simplified chinese otherwise.
[18:17] chibaguy Yes, that's hard to provide a good default appearance because the site logo and title span two background colors. But to be honest, probably more time could have been spent to work on it.
[18:17] chealer I get the same problem on demo.tiki.org
[18:17] chibaguy heh, somebody switched the demo to chinese?
[18:18] chealer visibly. and I don't find simplified chinese much simpler than chinese.
[18:19] chibaguy very true. :-)
[18:20] chibaguy CSS like this would help: .box-logo > div > .sitelogo + .sitetitles {
[18:20] chibaguy padding-left: 95px;
[18:20] chibaguy padding-top: 20px;
[18:20] chibaguy }
[18:20] chibaguy If you add that to custom CSS, the title text will be positioned better.
[18:23] chealer chibaguy: I do not understand your explanation, although I have never known anything about Tiki layout.
[18:24] chealer chibaguy: thank you, but I am not going to customize the code for this. I am not attached to Fivealive. I used it because I thought it was the official/best theme. If there is a less buggy theme, I will report a bug and switch to the least buggy theme. it is just a family website.
[18:25] chibaguy I'd say try another theme - many are nicer than Fivealive now, I think. And they are less trouble.
[18:26] chibaguy Fivealive is unique in the way the page header has two background colors - that can easily cause a problem as you showed.
[18:26] chealer oh, yes, I understand your explanation now.
[18:32] chibaguy ok. I have to take my dog out now, so talk to you later.
[18:37] chealer would someone suggest a theme with higher quality than Fivealive?
[18:44] NoteOn you use logo?
[18:44] chealer NoteOn: no
[18:44] NoteOn so, some are good but for me, im japaense and japanese site,
[18:45] NoteOn no logo and need more mbile use. cause 50% are mobile.
[18:46] NoteOn so for me, = my case, important part is top bar. now we can't set easy. now all blank.
[18:47] NoteOn and more easy control for responsive inside of contents. and side bar for pc and tablet view.
[18:48] NoteOn bootstrap is good but not flex..
[18:48] NoteOn wait example.
[18:50] NoteOn http://www.starbucks.com/
[18:50] NoteOn https://www.barackobama.com/
[18:50] NoteOn both are famouse exmplae for css.
[18:51] NoteOn and starbucks has some link at top menu when width less 600x
[18:51] NoteOn that part current tiki can't do easy.
[18:51] chealer NoteOn: OK, thanks
[18:52] NoteOn so maybe you find more good theme but mobile user and responsive... there are many part you can ajust.
[18:53] NoteOn http://getbootstrap.com/
[18:53] NoteOn top blue part is that tiki can't control easy.
[18:54] NoteOn side part is easy. when mobile both are off. and in pc, just left of , right off by setup for such homepage only etc.
[18:55] chealer it's OK. I do not need to control the look.
[18:55] NoteOn ok, I know each site has own target.
[20:46] Tiki|bot Recent Bug:  - http://dev.tiki.org/item6143
[20:58] chealer I reported in the above ticket.