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Hi everyone
I'm a noob and I have a noob question, if someone would be willing to try and help ? :)
Maybe y'all are asleep, it's nighttime in the US 		[10:18]
BsfezBut not somewhere else :)
What is your question ? 		[10:22]
Mbiggelsworthhey Bsfez ! :)
Ok, I'm in charge of selecting candidates for my company's documentation/wiki platform and Tiki sounds like the best to me 		[10:23]
Bsfez(to me too ;)) [10:24]
MbiggelsworthI really like the concept and the feature and so on. Now my company is asking me the following (like I said, I'm more of a secretary than an IT guy)
they want to know : if we install our tiki platform on a webhosting service now, will we later be able to transfer the whole thing to another server, like one of our own
transfer the whole platform as it is, with its structures and users and databases, and contents 		[10:24]
BsfezYes without a problem
Tiki reside in 3 places:
Files, you can keep the core from your custom files
Files (user file), the files (images, pdf, etc) that your user save or view
Database (mysql) were are saved all the preferences, setting and content (but the files)
No problem to move from place to place or from version to version (upstream of course) 		[10:25]
MbiggelsworthSo as long as I know where the file repositories and database are on the hosting server, I can simply move them to our own server, install Tiki there and have it point at those places ? [10:30]
Bsfezyes [10:30]
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MbiggelsworthOf course, I'm trying to have someone with actual skills to perform both installations, as I wouldn't have any idea how to do that. I'll be "administrating" the platform in terms of access rights ad structures and features (hopefully I can do that) [10:31]
BsfezAs Release coordinator I create/move a dozen of Tiki every month. :)
Well If you need someone a lot can help you with Tiki. Check : https://tiki.org/consultants (yes I'm there too :)) 		[10:31]
MbiggelsworthI daren't ask... Do you think you could possibly write down for me kind of a summary that describes in more technical terms what to do for such a move ? Something I could comy and paste and send to the IT guy who'll be in charge of this ? Like the basic information you would need if you were using tiki for the first time ?
Oh :) nice :) Although I'm afraid they're not prepared to pay anything (which I hate, because I see no reason why contributions should come free if they'll be making money out of it but hey, see how they hired a complete noob to perform the search *lol*) 		[10:33]
lincolnahttps://doc.tiki.org/Tiki+Installation+Guide? [10:34]
MbiggelsworthThanks lincolna ! Do you guys think the installation info available on tiki's doc rep is enough for a guy with minimum understanding of server install to perform all that ? [10:36]
lincolnanot sure about a minimum. You'd need some idea of what you were doing [10:36]
BsfezWell having someone that fill every role is not the best practice in my opinion. I manage a lot of project where I'm the technical that help a Tiki admin. [10:36]
MbiggelsworthInstallation, obviously, but also how to move ? If so, i'll just have them read the whole stuff :) [10:36]
lincolna(I've managed to set up a ubuntu server and install tiki despite not knowing much about it, but its taken much longer than any reason to, and I'm reasonably technically capable)
also, I've done something wrong somewhere, as SEFUrls won't work, but that's not important 		[10:37]
Mbiggelsworththey probably have more than minimum skills. They are It engineers ;-) it's just me not knowing the first thing about anything. Why it is me talking to you today is beyond me ! [10:37]
lincolnaQuick questions - is there any way to fill a tracker field automatically based on the value of another field? [10:38]
Bsfezlincolna, yes. You can fill a tracker field automatically based on the value of another tracker with tracker field type : item list, item link, dynamic item list [10:39]
MbiggelsworthOh i'm gonna love coming here to asking you more specific questions about actual features, once they install it for me. You were very nice and I'm delighted to get to use IRC again, I didn't even know it still existed (yeah, I'm not young)
Thank you very much, Bsfez and lincolna for your help 		[10:39]
lincolnano, not quite what I'm after - those fields still need a user to pick one from the option, no? [10:40]
Bsfezhe he he... there NOT that much traffic here, but we have a Tiki Fest for the FOSDEM and part of the community is there so we use IRC to linkup
lincolna, not necessarily. You have options to fill field based on another field. (not sure of your use case) 		[10:40]
MbiggelsworthI'll probalby be using no more than 10% of Tiki's potential, which is a shame, but I'm really pushing them to opt for that software because I think it's pretty cool :-) (I already had them opt out of Confluence) [10:41]
lincolnahmmm ok.
my use case is perhaps not actually necessary, the more I think about it 		[10:42]
BsfezYou are welcome Mbiggelsworth and anything we can help with I or other will do. [10:42]
lincolnaBasically, I've got a situation where I want some structured data (so Tracker is a good idea for a few reasons), but I also want a wiki page about the structured data
I tired the "wikipage" field type, but it's a nightmare of format breaking etc 		[10:43]
MbiggelsworthThanks again and bye for now ! [10:43]
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lincolnaso current attempt was using trackerplugin to automatically create a wiki page when the item is added (works great!) [10:44]
Bsfezhe he he I have sort of the same dilema right now for a project. I need both worlds and I'm not sure yet what's the best way to do it for my specific case [10:44]
lincolnabut I also wanted the tracker item to point to the wikipage
and was trying to do that through pageselector
and obviously users can fill it in manually after
but it's hardly ideal 		[10:44]
BsfezTiki is like a toolbox there are many way to do similar things... using alias to link itemId and {{page}}, using pretty tracker, using pluginList in a template...
As I mentionned I have myself a quite complex case I have to think of (and do a few test and go)
wayS 		[10:46]
lincolnacould you expand on the alias solution?
if it makes it easier, the wiki page naming conventions is pretty straight forward - it matches a "name" field in the tracker 		[10:47]
Bsfezit imply to use the object_id in the plugin list (to display the tracker items) and then in the wiki page to display fields from the same object
term-{display name="object_id"} (term is the template page) (object_id is the trackerItemID)
and on the term- page you display the fields with : {filter field="object_id" content="{{itemId}}"}
I have set a similar case like this 		[10:50]
lincolnaI'm already using a pretty tracker to display fields from the tracker on the wiki page in question
but I think there's something more you're suggesting I still don't follow, sorry 		[10:52]
BsfezThis is one option, may be with pretty tracker you can achieve the same [10:53]
lincolnabut I also want to be able to use say, a tracker list, and show a filtered list of the tracker items, but be able to click through and get to the wiki page [10:54]
Bsfez(frankly I'm not sure I can follow myself on irc... I need to see it :D) [10:54]
lincolnayeah, it's not an easy way to communicate data structures and relations etc [10:55]
BsfezIMO plugin List is more modern way (more option) to do all what can do tracker, trackerlist plugins.
More complicate too, but flexibility is here so I force myself to use it
:) 		[10:55]
lincolnaok, I assumed all it did was a neatly formatted list
but as I'm already confused by the end of the introduction, I see it does mroe 		[10:57]
BsfezYes it's not "that" easy for me too and I keep copy/paste first then I adapt.
Got to work... was nice to meet you here and I hope I helped 		[10:58]
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Tiki-KGB03yonixxx r61236 10trunk/templates/trackerinput/files.tpl
[FIX] [TRA] Fixing commit 60568 that added a plurial form working only for a limited number of languages and not all. 		[11:24]
03yonixxx r61237 10branches/16.x/templates/trackerinput/files.tpl
[rb/61232] [FIX] [TRA] Fixing commit 50568 that added a plurial form working only for a limited number of languages and not all. Reason for rolling back: commited in branch before trunk + typo.
03yonixxx r61238 10branches/16.x/templates/trackerinput/files.tpl
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luciashpolom
Bsfez: hi, I wonder what is [pb] :) 		[11:53]
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lincolnahmm wait, what does this "StoreRelation" on pluginTracker do [12:39]
BsfezHi Luciash, I was checking someone was tracking my typosssss :)
lincolna, dunno that one... 		[12:46]
lincolnahmm
well it links the wiki page name and the tracker item field at least
(just changed the tracker field, wiki page got renamed
which is neat
and vice versa 		[12:48]
luciashBsfez: :)
lincolna: if it is not documented, can you edit the doc page please? 		[12:54]
Bsfezlook interesting ! [12:55]
lincolnaluciash I think all of the fields on PluginTracker to do with creating a wiki page aren't documented. I'm not sure I know enough of what they're doing to add much mind
oh no, outputwiki is there
in fact, the relation field is in the docs too, somehow I missed that 		[12:56]
luciashhttps://doc.tiki.org/Page+selector?structure=HomePage+Tracker
or https://doc.tiki.org/PluginTracker ? 		[12:58]
lincolnathe latter [13:00]
luciashok, I thought it is attribute of the field settings in the tracker [13:01]
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BsfezHelloooo [14:35]
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Tiki-KGB03kroky6 r61239 10trunk/lib/core/Search/Formatter/ValueFormatter/Plain.php
[FIX] make sure Plain ValueFormatter in unified search always returns a string, even if separator is not specified for fields containing arrays
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[bp/r61239] [FIX] make sure Plain ValueFormatter in unified search always returns a string, even if separator is not specified for fields containing arrays
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jonnybamette: here it is https://confluence.jetbrains.com/display/PhpStorm/Remote+debugging+in+PhpStorm+via+SSH+tunnel
(polom everyone :) ) 		[16:51]
amettemerci jonnyb
and polom everyone 		[16:51]
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