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[07:38] skeff Hi! The topic needs an update, right? 17.0 is the latest release or am I missing something?
[08:10] juststrollingin skeff 17 is the latest but it's not an LTS
[08:10] juststrollingin 18 will be an LTS if I rememeber correctly. So previous was 15?
[08:10] skeff OK
[08:11] skeff I'm an idiot and used SVN to set up tiki on a server, started to build it, only to realise that I might not be on the most stable version
[08:12] juststrollingin skeff XD
[08:12] skeff I thought SVN was just a handy command-line way of fetching and upgrading the package
[08:13] juststrollingin skeff do tikiwiki even use SVN instead of git?
[08:13] skeff I guess I'm the wrong person to ask, but at least I have a server running with version number 17.1svn
[08:14] juststrollingin skeff hehe, ok. I really don't know, you might get some bugfixes and possibly som new bugs
[08:17] skeff I'm reinstalling now using the 17.0 release version. Are there big differences from 15 to 17?
[08:17] juststrollingin skeff I don't know. I installed 17.0 but soon 18 will come out and that will be a long time support so I'd be sure to upgrade to that when it comes out
[08:18] skeff ok thanks
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[15:34] Jyhem juststrollingin: yes, the topic needs an update
[15:35] Bsfez ha ha ha !
[15:35] Jyhem Latest is 17.1, not 16.2
[15:35] Bsfez how are you ?
[15:35] Jyhem but I can't change it :-(
[15:35] Jyhem who, moi ? :-)
[15:36] Jyhem ahh, no I was answering skeff who is gone already
[15:37] Jyhem Bsfez: stuggling with forms
[15:37] Bsfez what forms ?
[15:39] Jyhem a form with an Image field for registration of one's avatar
[15:39] Bsfez Mmmmm :)
[15:42] Jyhem They can put an image when they register (it works). But then when they edit their item afterwards, they can modify all fields except this one
[15:42] Jyhem which silently fails
[15:42] Bsfez arf... you got my support to solve this because I'd like this very much to work in Tiki ;)
[15:45] Jyhem I suspect it used to, before someone put «Deprecated in favor of the Files field.» on it
[15:47] Jyhem Come on! You are the one who answered you were happy with attachemnt field!
[15:47] Bsfez what ?
[15:47] Bsfez no ?
[15:48] Bsfez Ahhhhh c'etait pour ca cette question dans la dev list ?
[15:48] Jyhem Also, yesterday I found a disturbing option called "Use legacy tracker insertion screen" in tiki-admin.php?page=trackers
[15:48] Jyhem Ben oui, et t'as dit «My late experience about attachement and field files are pretty good.»
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[15:49] Bsfez Oui mais ta question et ma reponse etait sans rapport avec l'avatar
[15:49] Bsfez tu as ecris "cv" (un doc)
[15:50] Jyhem OK, mais c'est les deux field avec "deprecated" et sur la description de "Use legacy tracker insertion screen", y a la description "Useful for older trackers using deprecated fields such as Image and File"
[15:51] Bsfez desole mais on est pas synchro sur la communication...
[15:51] Jyhem Oui, c'est parce que j'ai des soucis avec un projet qui a l'image avatar que je me demandais si sur le nouveau projet ça allait être la même galère si j'utilise "Attachment"
[15:51] Bsfez Le field type files marchent tres bien et il n'est pas deprecated
[15:51] Bsfez ok
[15:52] Bsfez Pour l'avatar je suggere le field file (comme ca on peut creer des listing ou dashboard avec le plugin list)
[15:52] Bsfez (pardon pour mes fautes de francais :D)
[15:53] Jyhem Mais le field type File, il me met un bouton browse qui me propose des images de la file gal alors même que j'ai dit une config ''Users File Galleries''
[15:54] Jyhem Mais il est perso, le field file? J'ai l'impression que tu vois tous ceux des autres
[15:54] Bsfez exact, il est possible de ne pas avoir le bouton browse (mais pas si tu es admin)
[15:55] Bsfez ca c'est le premier point, le deuxieme, serait de cloisonner la gallerie (les users ne devrait pas pouvoir la consulter)
[15:55] Jyhem Tu mets ton CV, l'existence des CVs des autres devrait pas t'effleurer :-(
[15:55] Bsfez (admin voit toujours le bouton browse je crois... je me suis deja plein aupres de la direction !)
[15:56] Jyhem Donc tu mets tous les CVs dans la même gallerie, et juste tu permets pas de la consulter?
[15:56] Bsfez :)
[15:57] Bsfez Je te repond pour les avatars, mais pour les cv le principe devrait etre le meme. Le user peut upload, changer la version mais pas consulter le contenu de la gallerie
[15:58] Bsfez (serait-il possible de creer un file gallery par user avec les droit d'edit/view pour ce user only ? => his items) ?
[16:00] Jyhem C'est con, les avatars c'est quasi en prod, mais ok, je vais tenter pareil sur les CVs
[16:00] Bsfez en prod avec les attachements ?
[16:00] Jyhem Du coup, dans la config de tes champs File, tu choisis une vraie File gallery que t'as créée pour l'occasion?
[16:01] Bsfez oui
[16:01] Jyhem en prod avec le champ Image
[16:01] Bsfez image comme deprecated ? :D
[16:01] Jyhem Oui, Image deprecated (comme attachment)
[16:01] Bsfez ah non c'est interdit ca !
[16:01] Bsfez :D :D :D
[16:02] Jyhem Ben avec File j'ai pas réussi
[16:02] Bsfez Jonny travail sur un script pour migrer les images gallery => files gallery.
[16:02] Bsfez arf...
[16:02] Jyhem et Image c'est vachement naturel car le fichier, il est lié à l'item
[16:03] Jyhem Nonnnn, le champ de tracker de type Image, pas les image galleries !
[16:03] Bsfez ahhhh !
[16:03] Bsfez bon c'estr moins grave
[16:03] Jyhem Il est très similaire à attachment
[16:03] Bsfez ha ha ha (je suis taquin moi)
[16:04] Bsfez champ image... ca va gicler ca aussi. Franchement, le mieux c'est le file gallery
[16:05] * RadoS ... o O ( Bsfez has no .fr keyboard? )
[16:05] Bsfez redflo ? :D
[16:05] Bsfez no french keyboard
[16:06] Jyhem Mais c'est incompréhensible !!! Par exemple, il prpose ''Users File Galleries''
[16:06] Bsfez bééééé je pourrais essayer quand même
[16:06] Jyhem ou bien une galerie précise.
[16:06] Bsfez tu cree une gallerie : (Curicul... CV)
[16:07] Jyhem ok
[16:07] Bsfez de memoire tu peux choisir sur le field type file cette gallerie pour stocker et tu degages les permissions de browsing
[16:08] Bsfez une seule image (replace the previous one) et ca devrait le fire
[16:08] Bsfez faire
[16:08] Jyhem Absolument, en plus de trucs qui semblent appropriés comme ''Users File Galleries'' mais qui sont peut-être un piège :)
[16:09] Bsfez que serait la vie sans le piment des Tiki Pieges ?
[16:09] Jyhem OK, je vais voir ça pour le nouveau projet, au moins.
[16:10] Jyhem C'est juste que avant de prendre du temps à faire une belle config qui marche, c'est super utile de vérifier qu'il y a vraiment une solution qui marche, au bout
[16:10] Bsfez +1
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[16:32] Tiki-KGB 03chealer r63520 10trunk/tiki-setup.php
[16:32] Tiki-KGB [FIX] TikiAccessLib::redirect() message handling
[16:32] Tiki-KGB r58746 regression
[16:50] Tiki-KGB 03chealer r63521 10trunk/lib/setup/error_reporting.php
[16:50] Tiki-KGB [REF] Optimize
[16:50] Tiki-KGB PHP 5.5 is now a minimum
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[16:57] bennypr0fane what are things like "calender, Wiki pages, Forums, file archives, Tracker" etc. called in the official documentation? are they compnonents, or modules, or features...?
[17:00] bennypr0fane blogs should be one of them, too. I want to have blogs, but my current profile ("collaborative community") apparently doesn't have them. So I'm trying to find instructions how to add/remove this and other features...
[17:00] Bsfez features
[17:07] bennypr0fane Bsfez: thanks! so, which is the place for admin to organize which features are available in my instance?
[17:11] bennypr0fane Found it! ~/tiki-admin.php?page=features
[17:25] Jyhem Bsfez: LOL ! :-/ I just saw this: https://tiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=66144
[17:26] Jyhem Improve code, degrade UX :-(
[17:27] bennypr0fane How about categories? This features isn't active in my profile, but it'S not in the features list....
[17:27] Bsfez ha ha ha !
[17:28] Bsfez benny what Tiki version ?
[17:28] Bsfez (it's on the same page "feature" but in main or additional (tiki 16 vs tiki17
[17:31] Bsfez JM, il me semble anyway que je l'ai fait et que cela marchait bien. (mais quelle version de tiki...?)
[17:40] Jyhem Il dit pas, mais ça révèle un problème :-( :-(
[17:44] Tiki-KGB 03chealer r63522 10trunk/lib/setup/error_reporting.php
[17:44] Tiki-KGB [FIX] Do not report E_STRICT when filtering notices
[17:44] Tiki-KGB [FIX] Do not always report E_USER_NOTICE
[17:44] Tiki-KGB [REF] FIXME: smarty_notice_reporting
[17:46] Tiki-KGB 03chealer r63523 10trunk/lib/init/initlib.php * [REF] tiki_error_handling(): FIXME: Optionally log errors
[17:52] Tiki-KGB 03chealer r63524 10trunk/tiki-view_tracker_item.php
[17:52] Tiki-KGB Smarty exceptions:
[17:52] Tiki-KGB Trigger an error so that the exception is logged... once logging is fixed
[17:52] Tiki-KGB Change message type to error
[17:58] Tiki-KGB 03jyhem r63525 10trunk/lang/fr/language.php
[17:58] Tiki-KGB [rollback 63519] Ooops, tiki_p_view_trackers controls whether to view both - a tracker in a listing and also any individual opened status tracker items (thanks chealer and luci)
[18:44] Tiki-KGB 03chealer r63526 10branches/ 1017.x/tiki-setup.php 1017.x * [bp/r63520][FIX] TikiAccessLib::redirect() message handling
[18:54] Tiki-KGB 03chealer r63527 10branches/ 1016.x/tiki-setup.php 1016.x * [bp/r63526][FIX] TikiAccessLib::redirect() message handling
[19:04] Tiki-KGB 03chealer r63528 10trunk/ 10(8 files in 3 dirs) * [FIX] HTML (replace align attribute with CSS rule for class categbar)
[19:12] Tiki-KGB 03chealer r63529 10trunk/ 10(6 files) * [REF] Optimize categbar
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[23:11] luciash polom
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[23:12]  Topic for #tikiwikiis now Tiki - the one and only Free & Open Source Software wiki-based CMS with the most built-in features! Latest Tiki 16.2 version is out! For LTS get 15.4 or 12.11. Question? Just ask! We log the channel @ http://irc.tiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude your message from the log)
[23:12]  Topic for #tikiwikiis now Tiki - the one and only Free & Open Source Software wiki-based CMS with the most built-in features! Latest Tiki 17.0 is out! For LTS get 15.4 or 12.11. Question? Just ask! We log the channel @ http://irc.tiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude your message from the log)
[23:14] luciash topic updated, thanks skeff
[23:15] luciash (am I the only one who knows how to do that? ;))
[23:17]  Topic for #tikiwikiis now Tiki - the one and only Free / Libre / Open Source Software wiki-based CMS with the most built-in features! Latest Tiki 17.0 is out! For LTS get 15.4 or 12.11. Question? Just ask! We log the channel @ http://irc.tiki.org (start line with [off] to exclude your message from the log)
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