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[02:23] Tiki|bot Recent Bug:  - http://dev.tiki.org/item6506
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[13:32] RadoS Moin, I get this error: Indexing failed while processing "50" (type category) with the error "Could not perform index modification: Incorrect string value: '\xE2\x86\x92 KK...' for column 'data' at row 1"
[13:33] RadoS How can I get more Info about the location of that data? Or more context? The given pointers are too litte to track it back.
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[14:07] amette_ polom
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[14:27] luis_asa polom! is anyone else having problems to commit? I'm getting "Can't open file '/svn/p/tikiwiki/code/db/txn-current-lock': Permission denied" error
[14:33] luis_asa ah, looks like sourceforge is down.
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[14:45] Jyhem polom
[14:46] Jyhem How can I activate the {{user}} and {{itemId}} replacements in wiki pages again ?
[15:27] RadoS Soo, I "hacked" "lib/core/Search/MySql/QueryBuffer.php" to give me more info, and it shows that the search indexer chokes on "→", but only on _one single page_, while the same char exists on other pages, too. Now... how to figure out why it poses a problem _just there_?!
[15:39] RadoS Ok, probably I'm not good at reading tiki objects, it seems it's not the current content of a page, but some historic entries...
[15:40] RadoS Can I somehow clean-up the indexing process to start over from scratch?
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[16:06] jimbo Hey everybody! Anyone who might be able to assist me with an issue I am having testing the Tiki18 dev build?
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[16:10] RadoS Now I even deleted the offending page with all its history, still the indexer chokes on something from its history, where does this _still_ come from?
[16:11] RadoS "Clear all caches" didn't help.
[16:19] amette jimbo: we can't know, if we are able to assist, before we know what the issue is.
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[16:29] jimbo__ Right. So my issue is with H5P, I've been trying to get the content to work, using the instructions in the doc. I'm able to upload the .h5p files from h5p.org just fine, but the content type doesn't get populated when I go to create a new H5P.
[16:29] jimbo__ I've seen that others have been able to use it without issue, so I suspect it is something to do with my tiki configuration.
[16:31] Jyhem jimbo__: I necer tried h5p yet. I think fabricius wrote part of the doc.
[16:32] Jyhem I rememeber him explaining that Tiki does not create the content types and it is necessary to upload the same content type from somewehere else before it works
[16:33] jimbo__ Right, that's the .h5p files I'm uploading. These come from the h5p.org website, and tiki uses them as kind of a template for creating new ones.
[16:33] Jyhem Maybe don't create but duplicate somehow an existing one? Or upload, then replace with your own, keeping the content typ? I'm just guessing, sorry.
[16:36] jimbo__ The .h5p files from h5p.org are the existing ones, you can't really create your own until tiki recognizes the uploaded file and let's you select a content type for a new one.
[16:44] luciash jimbo__: last time I tried it worked with the strawberies example or something simple it was
[16:45] luciash jimbo__: maybe try different type
[16:45] luciash jimbo__: it did not work with the video one iirc for some user
[16:45] luciash maybe some types of h5p files have issues with Tiki
[16:45] jimbo__ Yea, that was me a few weeks ago...
[16:45] luciash ah :)
[16:46] luciash jimbo__: and it did not work for you even with the simple one?
[16:46] jimbo__ But I've tried multiple types, including the accordion (the strawberries example), timeline, and a couple others with no luck. I suspect it's something in my config that's preventing tiki from checking those files.
[16:47] luciash ah, darn, that is unfortunate... hmm, no idea what could cause that
[16:48] luciash can you try different server or localhost?
[16:48] jimbo__ I'm doing it from a localhost. I guess I'll have to do a deep code dive to figure this out.
[16:48] luciash then maybe you can compare and see what is the difference
[16:49] luciash also check tiki-check.php if it does not ring a bell on something your server might be missing
[16:49] jimbo__ Okay, I'll try that.
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[17:22] fabricius polom
[17:22] jonnyb hi fabricius
[17:22] fabricius jimbo__ Jyhem - did I hear somethingabout H5P? Any Question?
[17:23] fabricius Jyhem: "How can I activate the {{user}} and {{itemId}} replacements in wiki pages again ?"
[17:24] Jyhem polom
[17:24] fabricius tiki-admin.php -> search for Argumentvariables
[17:24] fabricius should be in text&plugins
[17:24] fabricius bolow
[17:24] fabricius by the way
[17:24] jonnyb hi all
[17:24] fabricius hi jonnyb
[17:26] Jyhem Ohh, that's it. Thanks ! I tried "variable" but it wasn't there. So close :-(
[17:26] Jyhem as well as "dynamic" and other wrong keywords :-(
[17:27] fabricius Jyhem: I had the exact same issue a few weeks ago
[17:27] fabricius that's why I knew off hand ;-)
[17:27] fabricius jimbo__: are you there?
[17:29] Jyhem luciash: I feel your issue with {$mail_machine_raw} is more general than that. None of the examples in https://doc.tiki.org/Pretty-Tracker#Syntax_tips actually work on https://demo.tiki.org/trunk/tiki-index.php?page=Tracker-form&itemId=2
[17:30] Jyhem Nothing gets replaced, not $f_itemId, not {$f_lastmodif}, nothing :-(
[17:32] luciash Jyhem: {$f_XX} works on our preprod site
[17:33] luciash Jyhem: I workarounded the {$mail_machine_raw} by using {$server_name} there anyway
[17:33] luciash (iirc)
[17:33] Jyhem {$f_XX} only works when XX is in the fields field. The others are not there either
[17:34] Jyhem Which is annoying when I try to display different input fields depending on some other field's value
[17:35] luciash Jyhem: hmm, might be, yep, I think I had name ans surname in the fields param
[17:35] luciash s/ans/and
[17:35] * Jyhem feels like he is rewriting half of Tiki in jQuery on some templates
[17:35] luciash Jyhem: so the doc should be updated to say it works only with tpl files do you think?
[17:36] Jyhem Yep, looks like a regression to me. I wonder if my emails with {$mail_machine_raw} still work
[17:36] Jyhem No, I failed with a tpl file
[17:36] luciash huh?
[17:36] Jyhem https://demo.tiki.org/trunk/tiki-index.php?page=Tracker-form&itemId=2 uses a tpl file
[17:36] luciash I thought you said it was working for you with tpl files
[17:37] Jyhem Yes, on preprod in september. I'm a bit anxious now
[17:37] jimbo__ fabricius: oh hi, yea, I'm having some issues with H5P
[17:37] luciash ah, hmm, interesting... ah, right, you have server access for demo sites, I see
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[17:39] Jyhem Today is for writing a custom search on words + categories for another project, so I can't test further.
[17:39] Jyhem I just got enough signs yesterday to make me suspicious, together with your issue
[17:40] Jyhem hopefully, next week I find time for a real investigation and bug report
[17:41] jimbo fabricius: Sorry for the two usernames, switching betweed a dev and prod machine. I'm using the dev build for Tiki18, and I've set up everything for H5P per the docs. I upload the .h5p files from h5p.org, but when I go to create a new one, the content dropdown doesn't populate.
[17:41] fabricius jimbo:
[17:41] fabricius whazup?
[17:42] fabricius you said s.th. about localhost jimbo
[17:42] jimbo yea, I have tiki installed on the machine I'm testing on.
[17:42] fabricius I do not think that'll be an issue, but maybe the thngi needs to load libs from the net ... you have i-net access from that local site?
[17:43] jimbo yes
[17:43] fabricius did you activate H5P?
[17:43] jimbo yes
[17:43] fabricius in tiki-admin.php?
[17:43] jimbo yep
[17:43] fabricius tha little tick box in filegal => enhancements?
[17:43] fabricius ah good
[17:44] fabricius so uploaded a ,h5p file ex: straberry timeline
[17:44] jimbo I've enabled SEFURL's, since that was mentioned in the docs too...
[17:44] fabricius strawberry timeline works
[17:44] fabricius ?
[17:45] jimbo I've tried the accordion one with no luck, but I'll try the timeline right now...
[17:45] jimbo still nothing.
[17:45] fabricius I did create an extra file gallery especially for the H5P files. dont' know if that would be an issue (don't think so, just sayng for the sake of completeness)
[17:46] jimbo Yea, I created a separate FG for H5P files
[17:46] fabricius so strawberry .h5p uploaded to a file gallery and h5p activated
[17:46] fabricius hmmm
[17:46] fabricius wait a sec ... checking
[17:46] jimbo Though I named it 'H5P Content', not sure if that would make a difference
[17:47] fabricius I do not think so
[17:47] fabricius do you see this "+ Create H5P" link in the file gallery?
[17:48] jimbo Yes. When I click it, the box comes up, but there's nothing listed in the dropdown for content type.
[17:49] fabricius and how you try to displa the file galllery?
[17:49] fabricius do you click on wrench left of the file -> popup -> click display?
[17:49] luciash Jyhem: sorry, I was wrong, I workarounded the issue using {$url_host}, not {$server_name}
[17:50] fabricius -> jimbo any possibly an adprotector, umatrix or something that blocks javascript in place?
[17:50] jimbo Yea, when I try to display one of the uploaded .h5p files, I get an error message saying 'H5P Plugin: Cannot find H5P content with fileId: 4157.'
[17:50] fabricius ahhh - ok
[17:50] fabricius hm
[17:50] jimbo no, I do not have an adblocker installed.
[17:50] fabricius wait checking
[17:52] fabricius hmm permission issue?
[17:52] fabricius lets go through the database settings
[17:52] fabricius can you please go to edit the database and we g down from tp?
[17:53] fabricius tiki-list_file_gallery.php?edit_mode=1&galleryId=XYZ
[17:54] fabricius tell me when you are ready, then I ask and you say yes for checked and no for unchecked
[17:54] jimbo Ok, ready
[17:54] fabricius actually the first three tick boxes have to be checked
[17:54] fabricius file archive can be viewed by on-admins?
[17:55] fabricius ...
[17:55] fabricius ...
[17:55] fabricius yes or no?
[17:55] jimbo gallery visible for non-admins -> yes
[17:55] fabricius gallery is unlocked?
[17:55] jimbo gallery unlocked-> yes
[17:55] fabricius Respect permissions for backlinks to view a file
[17:55] jimbo no
[17:56] fabricius TICK IT
[17:56] jimbo ok
[17:56] fabricius and then try again
[17:57] jimbo still nothing, tried uploading new .h5p file
[17:57] fabricius should not be necessary, but ok
[17:57] fabricius you are in as admin, so no permission issue at this point I'd say
[17:58] fabricius Respect permissions for backlinks to view a file is a very common issue when fgal object is not displayed
[17:58] jimbo yea, I double checked and explicitly granted permissions to admin
[17:58] fabricius ahhh another comon issue
[17:58] fabricius you ever first before asking for help should:
[17:58] fabricius ... clear chaches
[17:59] fabricius and then in case with files or trackers:
[17:59] fabricius ... refresh the search index
[17:59] fabricius I guess you never refreshed the search index after uploading the file?
[17:59] fabricius COULD be that
[18:00] jimbo I have, but not since the changes you suggested
[18:00] fabricius /tiki-search-rebuild?modal=1
[18:00] fabricius hummm getting out of ideas
[18:01] jimbo checking...
[18:02] fabricius ahh another one:
[18:02] fabricius do you store your files in the databse or in the directory?
[18:02] jimbo database
[18:02] fabricius I never store files in the database
[18:02] fabricius ahhh
[18:02] fabricius THAT maybe?
[18:03] fabricius anyway: this setting is ONLY default, to make Tiki working under all circumstances in all environments from start
[18:03] fabricius this is strongly not recommended
[18:03] fabricius and you are working with files here
[18:05] fabricius I give you a general hint now for a setup like I do all the time since long for good reason ... note, that I call the installation folder of tiki (that what you download and unzip or that folder where you svn checkout into:
[18:06] fabricius /project/tikiroot
[18:06] fabricius /project/files
[18:06] fabricius /project/files/gallery
[18:06] fabricius /project/files/batch
[18:06] fabricius chmod -r 755 to files
[18:07] fabricius the your path to the files (directory) in tiki.admin.php is following:
[18:07] fabricius ../files/gallery
[18:07] fabricius then click on "move files from database to directory"
[18:07] fabricius got it?
[18:10] fabricius when you work productive, no domain shall be "above" project to not have the folder .*/project acessible through another domain through the net by using a path
[18:10] fabricius the domain for Tiki goes directly to ...*/project/tikiroot
[18:10] fabricius ...*/project/files/... is only accessible from inside Tiki or from a comandline (ex shell, bash, puty)
[18:11] fabricius ptty
[18:11] fabricius putty sorry
[18:12] jimbo got it
[18:12] fabricius good
[18:13] fabricius tell us please, if switching to directory storage does the job. if yes you are welcome to add that piece to the docs
[18:15] jimbo ok. Running tiki-check.php to make sure it's set up right first, but I'll take care of that if it works
[18:20] fabricius honestly, I assume .h5p files have to be stored in the directory
[18:22] fabricius I cannot check quickly, cause I do that by default.
[18:22] fabricius If that's the issue, it has to be written to the docs, to prevent next users to search for solutions for ages aswell.
[18:23] fabricius doc.tiki.org is set to directory aswell
[18:38] jimbo Yea, that seems to be the issue. That dropdown is working now.
[18:43] jimbo and doc.tiki.org/H5P has been updated.
[18:44] Jyhem :-) Great job, fabricius & jimbo!
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[18:58] jimbo hmm... looking at this more, it's mostly working, but there seem to be a few strange things happening...
[19:01] jimbo Such as, for the interactive video content type, I'm seeing what looks like field values that haven't been parsed... [field:group:wizard:interactiveVideo]
[19:23] Jyhem Is $objectCategoryIds = $categlib->get_object_categories($objectType,$objectId); still the advised way of getting an object's categories?
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[19:26] Jyhem Hmmm, apparently not.
[19:27] Jyhem https://dev.tiki.org/hello world seems outdated
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