MarcelvanLeeuwen: are you some sort of admin of Ohloh.net? marclaporte: I am an enthusiastic volunteer MarcelvanLeeuwen: okay :) marclaporte: It's like Wikipedia, anyone can help out, so I do
https://www.ohloh.net/p/compare?project_0=Transmission&project_1=qBittorrent is an example of how to compare projects MarcelvanLeeuwen: checking marclaporte: Coming back to yout original goal: I suggest to try to find an app which is already in the ClearOS marketplace and try to figure out how it's done.
On October 22nd, we will be working to add Tiki, which is a PHP app so a bit different than subsonic or SABnzbd
If you have a PHP app you want to do, the recipe will be very similar to what we will add MarcelvanLeeuwen: okay
so i a have to figure out how Tim made Transmission
I mean how transmission installs on ClearOS
also i can checkout the developers section
and i can contact Tim
what do you sugested to do first?
for example how can i see how transmission installs marclaporte: Read the source code MarcelvanLeeuwen: okay marclaporte: Need to find where the recipe is MarcelvanLeeuwen: the next dumb question
how do you read the source code marclaporte: need to find it first
http://www.clearfoundation.com/docs/developer/source_code/start MarcelvanLeeuwen: ah
i think i'm going to checkout the developers section marclaporte: http://code.clearfoundation.com/svn/listing.php?repname=ClearOS&path=%2Fwebconfig%2Fapps%2Ftransmission%2Ftrunk%2F&#ab228eab2b1f5fbddfa6c21c88abb2026
http://code.clearfoundation.com/svn/filedetails.php?repname=ClearOS&path=%2Fwebconfig%2Fapps%2Ftransmission%2Ftrunk%2Fpackaging%2Fapp-transmission.spec MarcelvanLeeuwen: oh yes the spec file
this spec file installs transmission Lacrocivious: Probably only installs transmission-daemon
The webui is built into that
To control remotely, you can use transmission-remote (cli), transmisison-qt gui, or third party front end
In addition to webui MarcelvanLeeuwen: yes i know i somethimes use transmission-remote
very cool Lacrocivious: A bit cumbersome, especially for multiple torrents
I prefer transmission-qt MarcelvanLeeuwen: transmission-gt never heard of it
googling! Lacrocivious: Qt MarcelvanLeeuwen: ok Lacrocivious: It's the gui client that can run either standalone, or to control a remote session of the daemon
The webui is not feature-complete, but it is close
There are also three command-line tools that are useful: transmiission-create, transmission-edit, transmission-show
For creating, editing, and showing contents of .torrent files MarcelvanLeeuwen: okay installed
looks okay Lacrocivious: To control remote session, go to Edit/Change Session MarcelvanLeeuwen: yes i already have a remote connection
with the daemon on my server
hmmm, i have to test this for a couple of days marclaporte: joined #clearfoundation MarcelvanLeeuwen: okay interesting
i'm going to checkout the developers section
some stuff to read
but that is for another day
time to go to bed
have a nice day..
:) marclaporte: joined #clearfoundation marclaporte1: joined #clearfoundation
back Lacrocivious: [18:36] * marclaporte has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[18:39] MarcelvanLeeuwen okay interesting
[18:40] MarcelvanLeeuwen i'm going to checkout the developers section
[18:40] MarcelvanLeeuwen some stuff to read
[18:40] MarcelvanLeeuwen but that is for another day
[18:40] MarcelvanLeeuwen time to go to bed
[18:41] MarcelvanLeeuwen have a nice day..
[18:41] MarcelvanLeeuwen :) marclaporte1: Super. Take care! marclaporte: joined #clearfoundation harlan: joined #clearfoundation
where can I find the specs on the amount of disk needed by clearos?
I have a small install and the 6.4 iso will not auto-install on either a 4G or 8G CFdisk.
That's actually way more space than I need... marclaporte: joined #clearfoundation MarcelvanLeeuwen: mornig guys!
at least in this part of the world it's morning
*morning
harlan: Have you checked the Clearcenter site?
Lets see...
http://www.clearcenter.com/support/documentation/clearos_install_guide/system_requirements marclaporte: joined #clearfoundation timb: joined #clearfoundation
Hi everyone, just popping by to say hello. I hope to drop by the IRC channel more often in future :-) Lacrocivious: Heya timb timb: hey lacrocivious - how are you? Lacrocivious: timb: Your nick suggests a gloriously revered ClearFoundation personage ;-)
I am, as always, twice as crazy as I would be if I was half as crazy as I am ;-) timb: haha...not sure I deserve the title but yup from the CF forums :-) Lacrocivious: I used to be a quasi-regular back in the days of Buddha, etc
That was Pointe Clark/ClarkConnect erea
era even timb: ah cool - way back then Lacrocivious: Been using CC since Office 3.0 timb: I started using Clarkconnect around 3.x
3.2 maybe? Lacrocivious: Put a fair number of those into small businesses locally, in front of their WinOS boxen... solved almost all their problems in one swell foop timb: yep! my first install was for my uni housemates, to share the limited bandwidth...
do you still deploy ClearOS? Lacrocivious: Absolutely
Using 5.2; too damn bad there isn't an upgrade path to 6.x ... it will be ... messy ... for me when the time comes I have to tear that down and start anew with 6.x timb: Great
yeah, that sucks - I bit the bullet a while back Lacrocivious: As for deploying for clients, I still do, when I can. The local economy is execrable and has been for years, and doesn't look to be getting better
I provide what amounts to 'soup-to-nuts' outsourced IT for local (very) small businesses
I'm ex-corporate; want nothing to do with enterprise timb: I tend to go through spells of deliberately breaking my boxes so I can fix them again ;-) Lacrocivious: Heh. <cough>KDE 4.0<cough> <cough>systemd<cough> timb: lol
i'm always open to ideas for new and interesting ways to extend ClearOS Lacrocivious: Any chance Dave Loper or someone will be able to unearth the original dialogs with freenode network to setup up #clearfoundation channel, so we can assign an op here? timb: hmm possibly - i'm in the dark as to how the channel was originally setup, but I can ask Lacrocivious: In my experienced and therefore somewhat cynically jaded experience, it is dangerous to have an opless channel active, due to spambots timb: if I recall it was a community effort Lacrocivious: There are, unfortunately, some indications -- complete hearsay and I am only reading occult waves of meaning between the lines -- that the channel was never 'properly' set up with a formal freenode primary contact etc timb: yes true Lacrocivious: ...and now the parent company of freenode has gone tits up, and they are ... in transition ... vis-a-vis registrations and such timb: I see Lacrocivious: MarcelvanLeeuwen has been in contact with Dave Loper about this, but we are awaiting a further reply beyond his initial ones timb: I can ping the dev team to see if it rings any bells with them Lacrocivious: It is MarcelvanLeeuwen's account of his communications with Loper that provide me with the wisps of suspicion that the channel was never 'properly' nailed down, as it were timb: Ok - well at one stage there were several channels spawned, and i'm not sure by whom
we are talking a couple of years ago Lacrocivious: Anything you could do in that regard would be appreciated. I am of the opinion that IRC offers a parallel and viable support stream in addition to forums
http://www.clearfoundation.com/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,232/catid,31/func,view/id,45705/ <--this? timb: Definitely if it can attract some traction with users :-)
http://www.clearfoundation.com/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,232/catid,31/func,view/id,5565/limit,10/limitstart,10/#20263 < this one perhaps? Lacrocivious: What I figure is, there are likely a fair number of people who are attracted to and/or experienced with ClearOS on its merits, who are also old IRC propeller-heads timb: It tends to go quiet when the user count drops, and then people are less inclined to visit Lacrocivious: True
I provide support on a couple of other freenode channels, though I'm not a dev timb: The logs will help too :) partly my reason for dropping by
Ah great Lacrocivious: #transmission and #pan ... the latter of which is mostly only ever active when the current dev wants some experimental laboratory animals to torture in real time -: Lacrocivious squeaks a bit and runs in his wheel Lacrocivious: Your forum link is much more informative than the one I had, thanks ;-) timb: transmission is great! real time dev feedback is incredibly valuable when testing
there are a few more clues, but Dave L is possibly the best starting point Lacrocivious: Are you the guy who packaged transmission for ClearOS? timb: Pete knocked out v1.92 a long time ago, and I bumped it to 2.82 with the webconfig front end Lacrocivious: Yeah, there have been *major* improvements between those versions timb: I think it was based on the original EPEL rpm packaging Lacrocivious: I imagine you had a few deps to deal with, given CentOS lags a bit
I've been involved with Transmission project since February 2006 timb: yeah - although having EPEL as a starting point really helps Lacrocivious: And you are correct, jordan is as responsive as he can be
The ClearOS package is probably just transmission-daemon, yes?
Did you include the trio of cli tools, transmission-create, transmission-edit, and transmission-show ?
For manipulating .torrent files timb: transmission-cli, transmission-daemon and transmission-common
yes includes the cli tools Lacrocivious: You should probably remove transmission-cli. It is single-shot, deprecated, and only still exists because some older embedded devices require it
transmission-daemon and transmission-remote fully replace transmission-cli timb: ah ok - thanks for the heads up
so the transmission-remote front end handles all the cli based stuff? I've not tried it yet! Lacrocivious: You *might* also consider transmission-qt, which is the Qt gui client, feature-complete with the (many distro default) transmission-gtk, but transmission-qt has the ability to run both standalone and to control a remote instance of transmission-daemon
Transmission-qt would not be something to run on ClearOS per se, but users might like to know it exists for their remote stations. The webui, alas, is not fully feature-complete
Yes, transmission-daemon may be controlled via webui, transmission-remote, transmission-qt, or any of the third party front ends that speak RPC to transmission-daemon
http://www.transmissionbt.com/resources/ <--front ends
^ third party timb: If I recall the build disables the gtk client due to dependancy issues, and not having a local GUI... but its been a while since I looked at it Lacrocivious: Yes, plus transmission-gtk is useless for controlling transmission-daemon
That has to do with history timb: ah ok Lacrocivious: titer created the project, with a gui for OS X and BeOS; the GTK+ client came later, and the daemon later still, followed eventually by transmission-qt, a webui overhaul, and the three cli tools
Transmisison-gtk will require a pretty major rewrite to gain RPC capability
...and given Qt is becoming so popular, that may never happen timb: I see