sylvie1: login is case insensitive - at least on dev.tw for me
and on my local amette: there was some big discussion some longer time ago about logins and case-sensitivity... it was a problem of changing it in the code and not breaking backwards-compat... but I don't remember what was the conclusion - it was coded regarding the conclusion though, that I'm sure about! ***: chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki
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and can't log in to themes.tw.o because intertiki can't connect. ***: djst has quit IRC () chibaguy: Since theme files are in both trunk and branch2.0, ones to be moved out could be deleted rather than moved to mods (since they can be moved to mods from 2.0 later, and it's probably better not to have duplicate files in mods and branch2.0), right? ***: franck has joined #tikiwiki
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you don't need to duplicate efforts anymore as changes from stable to trunk will be done periodically chibaguy: Well, the theme deletions are from trunk, since I thought branch2.0 still needed (?) those themes.
I'll switch to litecss-based tiki.tpl, etc., in trunk soon.
....something like http://zukakakina.com/tiki-index.php?page=Theme-related_changes_in_trunk .
Time for me to go. I'll be back in a few hours. ***: chibaguy has left
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oh yah, using v 1.10b Hansi_MP: sylvie1: FYI: Found this one, that worked :-) http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_blog_post.php?blogId=26&postId=302 Thanks again! ***: chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki
lphuberdeau has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Hansi_MP: chibaguy: The link you posted before you logged off had lots of great themes! Are they available for download somewhere? chibaguy: Hansi_MP, some are at themes.tikiwiki.org now, the rest will be sooner or later.
The themes.tw.o versions are a little old now. Most up-to-date versions are in the mods svn repository. Hansi_MP: I'm running svn 2.0 now ... shouldn't they be available then? ***: tomekkott has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: They're becoming available as they get finished. Hansi_MP: ok, thanks :-) chibaguy: Well, most are pretty close already, so it shouldn't be long. -: Hansi_MP can't wait ;-) ***: Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie chibaguy: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/mods/trunk/themes/ -- most recent file versions.
I was thinking of making a page at themes.tw.o for each new theme with links directly to the mods.tw.o files. Most of these themes only have a few files, and that way they'd be current.
Snapshots in file galleries get out of date fast, at least during this beta/rc phase.
Anyone else having trouble getting tikiwiki.org? For me, no error, but no page loads either. zorp: chibaguy - confirm problem with tw.o -: Hansi_MP also confirms zorp: chibaguy - the themes sites with the new themes looks great!!! :) Hansi_MP: Yeah, I love'em too :-) chibaguy: Seems like I can get them to 90% done but that last 10% takes forever... :-) Hansi_MP: lol ... sounds familiar :-) chibaguy: yep, true for a lot of things. Hansi_MP: Yeah chibaguy: If you have a minute, could you check this out: http://zukakakina.com/tiki-switch_theme.php?theme=monoi.css ? I don't know if the red body background color before the content area background loads is a problem or not. ***: chibaguy2 has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy2: Opera 9.5's irc is kinda flakey... ***: chibaguy has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
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the background color? ***: Jyhem has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: Well, the body has a red background image that mostly gets covered up by the dark areas behind text, etc. But if there's a lag in the page loading, the red might show for a while, which might not be too nice to look at.
For a site about hell or something, it'd be ok..... ;-)
I like the idea of the body background supplying the color for the header and footer parts, because it avoids the problem of those parts sometimes not going full width or (for footer) moving up from the window bottom on short pages. ***: tomekkott has quit IRC ()
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my only comment would be that if the page is long, you can see where the background img ends and starts
also, I think everyone is used to complex pages taking their time to fall into place while loading - as long as they look good once the loading is done, I dont think its that big of a deal Hansi_MP: when you access the page from a mobile device it is ;-) zorp: but for that , you have mobile tiki :) Hansi_MP: but that gives you, afaik, only read-access zorp: oh
but when you use a mobile device, do you expect regular pages to be a bit shakey?
and load in a funny way
? Hansi_MP: not 100% sure, but I haven't been able to log in from mobile. That is why I am trying to make a minimalistic theme, then one should be able to log in with a seperate mobile user
not with an iPhone ;-)
...and not always otherwise either zorp: yup, I guess now that 1M people have iphone3gs globaly, everyone should have a look at their css files :) Hansi_MP: yeah ;-) I am an active user of mobile phones, unfortunately I'm new to both TikiWiki, CSS and mostly HTML as well zorp: hehe - me too Hansi_MP: so my project will take loads of time, if I ever finish it chibaguy: http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-mobile-bp-20060412/#PAGE_SIZE_USABLE ; http://www.iphonewebdev.com/
http://www.cameronmoll.com/archives/000428.html
maybe some useful info there....
I think basically it'd be good to have a theme that has just one column, nav links at the top. Hansi_MP: yeah, thanks :-) chibaguy: A lot of phones can handle html pages, but horizontal scrolling is a drag. Hansi_MP: agree. But I have no clue of how to do that ;-)
yeah chibaguy: I've been wanting to take a shot at it. I'll put up a page at themes.tw.o or zukakakina.com when I get to it.
(after the tiki 2.0 stuff) Hansi_MP: fortunately Opera Mini deals good-ish with the horizontal scrolling though, seems to put the whole in one column
yeah, would be great! ***: amorphis has joined #tikiwiki amorphis: hallo Jyhem: chibaguy: I love your svn commit [13671] :) zorp: hey ***: Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie amorphis: it is possible to download the tikiwki 2.0 rc1? or it is available in svn only? chibaguy: Thanks, Jyhem.
I've been kind of uncertain about the timing, etc.
Next I'll change a few templates to have a *litecss default. Jyhem: the timing seems right: we have 6 months for putting back and fixing anything anyone really misses chibaguy: ok.
amorphis, http://de.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php has links (left column) amorphis: k i checked out the rc1 tagged version and wonder about the size chibaguy: what do you wonder? amorphis: oh nothing , i did a mistake ;) zorp: anyone have v.1.10b svn running? Hansi_MP: yeah
@zorp zorp: could you try to create a wiki dump?
its in admin - wiki
you need to enable "dump" in the right hand collumn chibaguy: shoujld he back up his db first? ;-) zorp: then generate dump in the left hand collumn
oh
didn't know it was that kinda thing Hansi_MP: me neither ;-) zorp: then nm :) chibaguy: Normally not, but I thought maybe you found a problem or something. zorp: I just get a function dissabled error chibaguy: A dump should be safe. zorp: but hansi, if you working on a live thing then its fine Hansi_MP: nah, it's on a test server ... think I got 5 versions running in total now ;-) zorp: hehe
Iäm just getting outa that phase :)
hansi, you think you could give it a try? Hansi_MP: I'll never get out of that phase ;-) I've got one "designated" as production, but will probably be testing for all time :-P
yeah, hang on ... zorp: thanx
if it works, it will create a dump in a folder called dump in your main tiki folder (if you use ftp) Hansi_MP: I use ssh ;-)
seems to work chibaguy: worked for me too. Hansi_MP: I got file "new.tar", 8192 bytes zorp: thanx guys
so im just stuck then :( chibaguy: Is directory 'dump' writable? zorp: yah - checked chibaguy: (I guess that's checked at install time....) zorp: checked a couple of minutes ago :)
any idea where the source code might be that does the dumping?
found it luciash: wth is that "Handler could not be romoved" dialog message on tw.o ? Hansi_MP: luciash: I don' get that luciash: i get that first time accesing the page
then it is not appearing, but that sucks anyway (got it in IE on pocket pc and in FF too)
on linux chibaguy: tw.o has not been displaying, just a white page for me, all day. Just now I can get it ok. Hansi_MP: But I got that every time I access any tiki page from one of my mobiles, the Palm Treo 650 ... none of the others thoug chibaguy: (opera on windows) Hansi_MP: Safari on mac here luciash: Hansi_MP: yep, first i spotted it on my ipaq here
Hansi_MP: but then i was wondering i got it in ff3 on my laptop too Hansi_MP: I haven't had that problem on any other devices/browsers than that one
But on that one I hvae the problem regardless of theme/ tw version ***: amorphis has quit IRC ("CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)")
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what knid of phone are you using?
kind chibaguy: (other than looking like a mural through a keyhole...) ;-) Hansi_MP: lol luciash: ROFL :) marclaporte: polom luciash: polom marc :)
heh, i can't login to dev.tw.o from my ipaq IE
pressing the Login button does nothin' chibaguy: Did anyone try making a web page with css media="handheld" to see if their mobile device gets served a handheld css file? Hansi_MP: Nop, but I tried with an empty css file, that at least *felt* a blt faster loading than a full theme. Didn't look much, but it helped speed-wise. So I'm using that for my mobiles atm chibaguy: hi marclaporte and luciash, btw. luciash: chibaguy: yep, me :-p
but it doesn't work much here :-/
and hi chibaguy :) ***: rodrigo_sampaio has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: I was wondering if media=handheld would be an easy way to give mobiles a trimmed-down theme, etc. luciash: i think this IE doesn't support it but i dunno how to check
you got iphone chibaguy ? ;) chibaguy: No.
Toshiba ;-)
But my son offered to write a big i on it. luciash: heheh :)
my wife's laptop is toshiba
didn't know toshiba does phones too chibaguy: yep, in this market. maybe not for export. I don't know. luciash: have you seen the latest LG touchscreen phone ? pretty impressive imho chibaguy: No, but easy to believe. luciash: it's camera can do 120 fps videos chibaguy: (Dog walking time -- be back soon.....) luciash: c ya
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yonixxx has quit IRC ("Leaving") SEWilco2: dev.tw.o still isn't recognizing my tw.o SEWilco login. Can someone file a bug report for me? chibaguy: I had the same problem with themes.tw.o until just a little while ago. Did you try recently?
(within an hour or two?) SEWilco2: chibaguy: I had the problem just now and yesterday afternoon. chibaguy: Just tried dev.tw.o and logged in ok.
Anyway, bedtime on this side of the planet, so cya later. ***: chibaguy has left SEWilco2: tw.o says I'm logged in, but dev.tw.o asks me to log in. I try to log in and it doesn't accept me. ***: djst has joined #tikiwiki
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g'nigth chiba ***: nkoth3 has joined #tikiwiki Petjal2: Hi all. Been busy on other things for the last while. Need to get back to my big tracker project. I have an svn version from about a month ago (rev 13287, I believe). With all the talk about 1.9.11 and 2.0, should I just do a "svn update tw ; svn update ./mods ; mysql -f -u tw_user -p tw_db < db/tiki_1.9to1.10.sql" or similar, or install tikiwiki-1.9.11.tar.bz2 , or other? That is, if I'm on the "svn update" track, should ***: snarlydwarf has joined #tikiwiki SEWilco2: The only thing 2.0 sefurl does is remove 'tiki-index.php?page=' from Wiki pages? It doesn't map the rest of the .htaccess abbreviations? (I'm looking at wikilib.php, should I look elsewhere?) Hansi_MP: I had that problem on my site, sefurl was enabled, rewriting is not enabled in apache, disabled sefurl, all working. Though I do not know if enabling/disabling it does anything more than that SEWilco2: That's not what I was asking. I found 2.0 code which make nicer URLs for Wiki pages, but not for Calendar, Directory, Forum, etc. sylvie1: no SEWilco - it is a job on the way
Petjal2: you must first decide to move to 2.0 or trunk - see a message on devel list for that
SEWilco if you want to help to finish the job - welcome SEWilco2: sylvie1: OK. I'm doing sefurl for 1.9.11 right now, to work around the Wiki no-Calendar-URL bug. I'll try to feed code to someone whose dev.tw.o access is working. zorp: Hi Sylvie, the code from last night regarding intertiki - you think I should just insert it to the doc.tw.o-intertiki page? sylvie1: I think so - it is very specific to your case... IMHO zorp: OK SEWilco2: I hope that's an intertiki login fix. zorp: SEWilco - it's a quick/barbaric fix in case you want to assign a range of IP's which the client server may have sylvie1: SEWilco: can you try to log on dev.tw? zorp: not about loging into dev.o sylvie1: I will check the log on tw.org
I can log in on dev.tw - so must it must be another pb for SEWilco zorp: SEWilco2 - yup SEWilco2: OK. Trying SEWilco. I'm already logged on tw.o but dev.tw.o is asking me to login and doesn't accept my PW. sylvie1: it is normal you have to log again on dev.tw as the sliging auth has not been set between both server
zorp succeeded to log from doc and form dev
SEWilco I still see no attempt to log in? did you try? SEWilco2: Nope, dev.tw.o not accepting it. Tried it a few seconds ago. zorp: yup - I also remembered my password :)
which helped me a lot
it's been a problem before :( sylvie1: SEWilco try again one more time - please
ok I see you
Invalid username or password from dev.tw.o in the tw log SEWilco2: XMLRPC Error: 101 - Invalid username or password
Logging out on tw.o and trying to log in again on tw.o to check my PW.
Oh, ick. I wrote down my password wrong. You suppose if I use the right password it will work? sylvie1: oh yeh sure
bbl lunch SEWilco2: Yup, using the right password seems like an acceptable workaround to the problem of using the wrong password.
I'm so secure that I keep the wrong password in my list, apparently. zorp: hehe ***: lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki
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i recently moved it from one server to another
now, every time i try to log on it doesn't work
what could be the problem? zorp: any errors a13x? Hansi_MP: tw stores the domain name in the database I think ... di you also change domain name in the process? zorp: you can also check the settings in /db/local.php a13x: zorp: no errors, it just goes back to the login page
zorp: i have it set up in such a way that everyone has to log in ***: urpg has joined #tikiwiki sylvie1: a13x: clean the cache urpg: hi there! i have a question regarding the menue / forum menue box sylvie1: and the database check of any refeenrece to the old site in the value column of tiki_preferences table urpg: There is "forums_last_topics" which displays the last started topics and "since_last_visit_new" which shows every post that happened. Now what i would need is something like a combination of both: "Forum last active threads" or something like that. a13x: sylvie1: how would i do that without logging in? urpg: the first one (last topics) does get outdated quickly and the last one (last visit new) does get spammed very fast... zorp: a13x you have to access the database directly ***: nkoth3 has left rodrigo_sampaio: polom sylvie1
sylvie1: i've removed the new wikiplugin posts from branch 2.0. but recently i made some changes to it that are not in trunk. i have to manually update trunk, right? (don't how merges works, that is why i'm asking) -: urpg will wait patiently until someone can give him a hint on how to do it a13x: zorp: which table do i truncate? zorp: I dont know if sylvie ment truncate, it sounded to me like you search for references for the old site in the table "tiki_preferences"
and btw
you do have a backup of the database right?
!!! Hansi_MP: if you truncate, you delete, right? zorp: jup ***: zorp is now known as zorp-afk Hansi_MP: bad idea I think
...unless the cache is contained within a single tale ... I don't know the internals very well ***: Morphous has joined #tikiwiki a13x: so, what do i do? how do i clear the cache? the site is the same, even all paths are the same, its a different server Hansi_MP: meaning the domain name is the same also? a13x: yes
same domain, same path, same db user, same db password, different apache/php config
different os ***: nyloth has left "Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org" Hansi_MP: I'm not that familiar with the intarnals, so I'm afraid I have no more ideas ... could be some critical difference in the apache or php config? though I do not know what that would be a13x: register_globals? Hansi_MP: could be ... I don't know about tw, but I've installed alot of webapps, and I see many requires that setting in a specific state ***: Redhatter has joined #tikiwiki
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urpg has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Hansi_MP: on my main site reg globals is off, so that obviously works SEWilco2: Hmm. Search site or wiki on dev.two.o and I get a blank results screen. ***: urpg has joined #tikiwiki urpg: sorry, got disconnected. anyone around that could help me with the display/forum trouble?
hmpf amette: The new http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Report+a+Bug is a great improvement!! :))
luciash: it breaks very, very badly with simple.css SEWilco2: urpg: Can you rephrase your display/forum issue? I probably can't help, but maybe different phrasing will tickle someone else's memory. urpg: ok, here we go: i need a module to display the "last active threads" of my forum.
forums_last_topics does do something similar but does get outdated soon.
since_last_visit_new does something similar too, but gets flooded fast if one thread is very active
is there yet another module i did not find that can display each topic that something was posted to since last login? amette: why does forum_last_topics get outdated soon? urpg: well, an example: someone does post one reply in "thread A", and "Thread B" and "Thread C". Then during the day, a lot of people comment in "Thread C".
all the module displays are like ,... 10 posts in thread C and A and B go unnoticed
even though they have new comments since last visit. amette: ah, they show the posts themselves and you want something that just shows the threads where something happened, right? urpg: jup exactly :) amette: ok :)
yeah, dunno, if there is anything like that, but it should be a pretty easy hack to one of those modules actually.. urpg: and "latest_topics" does only show the last "created" not the last "commented" ones amette: ok, then I'd suggest you go with latest_topics and just adapt the query in there..
... all the templates and the like should be pretty ok in that module already. urpg: the last time i coded stuff myself was on a Commodore 64... amette: *g*
that has style!!! :D
so you could open up an RFE on dev.tw.o urpg: yeah, but also means that i am not "up to date" with the latest in good php code amette: ;) Hansi_MP: that's almost as bad as me, urpg ;-) urpg: hehe
you last used an amiga 500? SEWilco2: urpg: You mean there is good php code? ***: lphuberdeau has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) urpg: guess i could copy + paste some lines... but into which file?
well, yes, better code then mine at least... i used "goto" jumps in Delphi to annoy the university teacher ;) amette: ROFL :PPP Hansi_MP: no, sorry, I meant the other way I think ... I'm almost as bad ;-) Last time I did something much was on my HP48 calculator ;-) urpg: hehe Hansi_MP: lol amette: urpg: just copy the php and the template to new files with new names and start coding in those
check out modules/ and template/modules/ urpg: hmmmm... i got notepad++ but ... which files would that be? is there a directory with "since_last_visit_new.php" or something? amette: those should be the only ones you need
yep, there is --^ -: urpg is having a look amette: CIA still dead?!? I just got a commit mail, but nothing in here....
... I looked at TikiFest into CIA help pages to find something about that - nothing found though...
... is there some general problem with our CIA setup?? (CIA-bot changed since I looked at their help pages, but still no notifications - that sucks biiig time!)
who handles the CIA-subscription? Hansi_MP: FBI? ;-) amette: no, more a kind of NSA ;) Hansi_MP: ;-)
BTW, what is CIA as far as tw is concerned? amette: it announces commits in here Hansi_MP: ok urpg: since_last_visit_new is 500 lines of code... anyone around that could tell me where to add an "if" or change a line so topics are only displayed once?
there is "feature_forums" in line 111 and below... hmmm Petjal2: sylvie1: hi, thanks. sorry another client pulled me away. OK, I'll check for that message on the devel list re deciding on 2.0 or trunk. -: urpg digs nose ***: kerrnel has joined #tikiwiki amette: you should use your fingers on the keyboard - it most probably will give more (or at least nicer) results ;) urpg: nah, believe me, you get more "grip" and can write faster if you dig your nose now and then... amette: *g* urpg: the since last visit module seems to get each new thingy, one at a time, until non are left... but i have no idea how to make it ignore things from the same thread in an elegant way
:-( Petjal2: sylvie1: Ok, I see it here: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Download I'm trying to figure out whether I should go 2.0 or trunk. I am building a site that needs to go live within a couple of weeks or so, and I am using some very (I think) advanced features of user trackers. I have no clue about the implications of using 2.0 vs. trunk. Can you or someone else help me make that decision? Thanks! sylvie1: 2.0 will not changed very much - bug will be fixed in trunk urpg: hui, 2.0 final something coming up? *me will have a look at the new features* Hansi_MP: meaning most activity will happen in trunk? So that should really be even more stable than 2.0?
2.0 has a lot of good stuff ;-) Petjal2: Hmm, I guess I'm still not sure. I"m thinking I should choose 2.0 now if there will be periodically approved bugfix svn updates that i can do later. Does that make sense? Sorry if I'm not getting it... urpg: better get it right now if you start something new...
otherwise you will have to switch existing content to it in a couple of month... sylvie1: I thought too - but seems I misunderstood - the decision was taken at tikifest strasbourg - and I was not there urpg: and converting / moving content is always trouble Petjal2: If I choose 2.0 now, will there be formal approved "service packs" that I can get by simply doing "svn update 2.0.1" or something like that? urpg: will it be any bigger? i am using 270 of 300 MB webspace with 1.10b1 already
is there something wrong with tikiwiki.org? the de. and www. sites take ages to load... Hansi_MP: tw.o seemed to be down earlier today Petjal2: I'm presuming that if I choose trunk now, then later "svn update" 's would risk introducing untested code--do I understand that correctly? sylvie1: yes
but if you need a fix done in trunk you will have to merge yourself Petjal2: or wait for a "service pack" of some sort, right? (what word am I missing there?)
since my site has to go into production soon, I think I should choose 2.0 for now. Hansi_MP: so, trunk is the bleeding edge and 2.0 is the "not-so-very-much-bleeding-edge"? Petjal2: :^) bleeding-edge vs hemorrhaging-edge Hansi_MP: lol yeah ;-)
I think I will keep to hemorrage for my site ;-) Petjal2: my client might prefer the slow bleed. :^) urpg: hmpf... third timeout connecting to tikiwiki.org :( Petjal2: yeah, http://tikiwiki.org was hanging for me, too, it just now loaded with the redirect to http://info.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php
so, now I'm about to do "svn switch https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/branches/2.0 " Do I have to do a "svn switch ... ./mods" thing, too? And, any "mysql -f"? sylvie1: you have to run the upgrade base - like each time you do a svn up Petjal2: "upgrade base"? -: SEWilco2 searches for upgrade_base.php without luck. Petjal2: I see a ./tiki-setup_base.php let me look in there...
nope, that's included from elsewhere apparently amette: sylvie1 Petjal2 urpg : what questions do you have considering 2.0/Trunk - perhaps I can help SEWilco2: I think tiki-setup_base.php might be what is autorun at first installation. If I'm wrong someone should tell us. sylvie1: doc/devtools/sqlupgrade.sh or use tiki-install.php SEWilco2: Ah. tiki-install.php. sylvie1: I discovered - while speaking with nyloth that there is no "big bug fix" in 2.0 amette: basically: 2.0 is frozen as in "doesn't move" - simple as that
sylvie1: yes, that's actually true - as those fixes might break other stuff we don't recognize right now... Hansi_MP: so tiki-install has to be run every time svn update is performed? amette: ... if such a "big bug fix" really seems necessary, then there will be a 2.1...
... otherwise 2.0 is now _really_ frozen as we have an RC...
as soon as an RC is out - nothing moves! Petjal2: If I run tiki-install.php after "svn switch ... 2.0", will that break anything? amette: After the release, it may be discussed if a bug is severe enough to be fixed in the current release - otherwise -> trunk Petjal2: if I do "svn switch ... 2.0" now, should I do it again for each 2.0RC? amette: ( although, if e.g. some bug prohibits installation or such: of course it is being fixed in 2.0 )
so in such grey areas: release manager decides - so in such cases please consult the devel-list about the commit
Petjal2: you can, if you want - but this should only be necessary, if you notice any breakage that affects you Petjal2: ok, thanks.
So, I'm gonna "svn switch ... 2.0", then "svn switch ... ./mods', then in a browser http;//.../tiki-install.php -- is that right? Hansi_MP: but do I need to run tiki-install whenever I run svn update? amette: dunno about that mods, but basically: yes Petjal2: thanks, here goes...wish me luck! amette: Hansi_MP: only for upgrading the database... which shouldn't be necessary as this release is frozen - but it doesn't hurt either -: Hansi_MP wishes Petjal2 luck ;-)
amette crosses his fingers for Petjal2
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some Restored's, a bunch of U's, UU's and A's. ***: zorp-afk has left
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where can i find a feature list for v2?
and regarding my display trouble / Module request i put up a thread in the (german) support forum: http://de.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=2&comments_parentId=1268&thread_sort_mode=commentDate_desc&was_queued=n Petjal2: this? http://doc.tikiwiki.org/TikiWiki+2.0 urpg2: looks good, thanks
forum redesign was needed badly... but no pdf conversion sucks, i like the feature :-/ ***: urpg has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
rodrigo_sampaio has quit IRC ("Leaving.") Petjal2: my first "svn switch" just finished with " svn: Failed to add file 'lib/smarty_tiki/block.itemfield.php': object of the same name already exists" -- need I worry?
It didn't say anything about completing successfully, just ended like this: A lib/smarty_tiki/function.xajax_response.php
U lib/smarty_tiki/function.rcontent.php
U lib/smarty_tiki/modifier.truncate.php
U lib/smarty_tiki/function.gallery.php
svn: Failed to add file 'lib/smarty_tiki/block.itemfield.php': object of the same name already exists sylvie1: rm it - an svn up it Petjal2: urpg2: re pdf, I'll be needing, and thus working on, a similar tool to create .rtf's. sylvie1: I suppose you did not change it Petjal2: ok, thanks, yes, no I didn't change it...will do now... urpg2: rtf is ok too... i don't remember it... you could not use text-anchors and links in rtf, right? Petjal2: [root@sp1 tw2]# rm lib/smarty_tiki/block.itemfield.php
rm: remove regular file `lib/smarty_tiki/block.itemfield.php'? y
[root@sp1 tw2]# svn up https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/branches/2.0 .
svn: 'https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/branches' is not a working copy
yeah, not sure about those in rtf. I just need the user to have a MS Word editable doc based on his data entered via the his user tracker. urpg2: and i'd like to create PDF or similar files with a clickable index... if text anchors (like in html) are possible in rtf, it would do fine
seems there is: linkself (from rtf 1.7 documentation): The object is a link to another part of the same document. Petjal2: rerunning "svn switch ..." to see if it will complete. No output yet...
some U's, D's and A's now...
Looks like it picked up where it left off. Google says that I should expect a " Updated to revision ..." line at the end.
dangit: svn: Failed to add file 'lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackeritemfield.php': object of the same name already exists sylvie1: did you add them from mods before? Petjal2: not sure, maybe Hansi_MP: I'm not sure I understand here ... I'm using http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Download "Using stable from SVN (2.x)" to update my installation. Isn't that what you are trying to do now Petjal2 ?
... or have I misunderstood the whole thing here ... ? Petjal2: This is what I'm trying to do (rightly or wrongly...): http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Download#If_you_were_using_SVN_branches_1_10_before_2008_07_10 Hansi_MP: ah, you have a 1.10 installation you are trying to upgrade to 2.0? ***: PrezKennedy has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Petjal2: yes
still svn switching: Updated external to revision 13525.
Fetching external item into 'lib/adodb' Hansi_MP: ok, then it's not quite the same ... I have started from scratch ... about ten thousand times over the last couple of weeks ;-) Petjal2: :^) Hansi_MP: I get that message too when I run the update Petjal2: what's causing you to re-start from scratch each time?
just experimenting, or is something blocking you? Hansi_MP: that's just my way of doing things, rather than using a lot of time trying to rescue something when there really is nothing to resque ;-) Petjal2: Ah, success (for this step): A lib/fckeditor/_htaccess
A lib/fckeditor/fckeditor_php5.php
A lib/fckeditor/index.php
Updated external to revision 13525.
Updated to revision 13682. Hansi_MP: sounds good! Petjal2: now where was I....
oh yeah, ./mods ...
last time I did svn up, I had to also do a svn up ... ./mods , so i presume I need to do that for switch too... Any suggestions otherwise? Hansi_MP: I've been installing different CMS systems and other webapps the last year or so, a bit to and from ... I just haven't been able to decide what system to use ... until now ... I think ;-) Petjal2: yeah, same here, settling on tw, and investing a labor of love into it
any reason not to run: svn switch https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/branches/2.0 ./mods Hansi_MP: yeah, I landed on tw about a year ago too, but then I got doubts again ... let's hope I don't do that now again ;-) SEWilco2: Same here... I say while fixing sefurl on 1.9... Petjal2: shoot, I think I screwed up a bit. "svn switch https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/branches/2.0 ./mods " is I think just adding all of tw under ./mods/ now...
http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Download#Using_stable_from_SVN_2_x_ seems to indicate that I should have done: "svn up https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/mods/trunk ./mods" cuz there is no branches/2.0 under .../mods/ -- anyone?
ctrl-c isn't working to kill the bad "svn switch ..." Hansi_MP: if you want to kill it try something like "ps aux |grep svn" and then kill -9 <process id>
if you are on a *nix system that is Petjal2: yep, good, thanks Hansi_MP: what kind of os btw? just curious :-) amette: wow - bad bug on dev.tw.o when editing my user-tracker items... after "Save and back items list" I get redirected to tiki-view_tracker_item.php (with no prepended domain name) Petjal2: centos on a leased dedicated server
now to clean up my ./mods mess...
I should fix my ./mods/ directory to look like this one, no? https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/mods/trunk/ ***: PrezKennedy has joined #tikiwiki
kerrnel has quit IRC ("CGI:IRC") Petjal2: ok, done cleaning up my ./mods mess... I think... now running tiki-install.php in a browser, selecting the tiki_1.9to2.0 script... crossing fingers...
do I need to run the tiki-secdb_2.0 script too?
if so, which should I run first?
ah, reading http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Security+Admin now... ***: urpg2 has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Petjal2: ok, so i should do the secdb afterwards, I think.
so, done with running tiki-install.php in a browser, and running the 1.9to2.0 script. i got this output: Tiki installer v2.0 RC2
Upgrade complete. Your database has been configured and Tikiwiki is ready to run! You can now log in into Tikiwiki as user admin and start configuring the application. Upgrade operations executed successfully: 831 SQL queries. Operations failed: 273 SQL queries. Display details. During an upgrade, it is normal to have SQL failures resulting with Table already exists messages.
some failures were for table already exists, some for duplicate column name, duplicate key, unknown column, duplicate entry for key,
I think I (everyone?) should run "mysql -f -u tw_user -p tw_db < db/tiki_1.9to2.0.sql" --- any comments?
maybe not. maybe -f just results in full completion of the .sql script, perhap like running it in the browser. ***: franck has left Petjal2: ok, I think i'm done upgrading from 1.10x to 2.0RC2. Thanks for the help and inspiration! SEWilco2: Is Eph implemented through Directories? .htaccess says eph99 uses URL tiki-directory_browse.php?parent=99
(in TW 1.9.11)
..dropping out of edit mode... yup, there is a tiki-view_eph, so .htaccess looks like it is wrong. Petjal2: I was going to edit http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Download with my observations from today, but I can't seem to find the edit button anymore. SEWilco2: I hope the bug tracker is still working so you can get that fixed. ***: SEWilco has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Petjal2: Now to do some real work!
{TRACKERITEMFIELD(fieldId=1, test=1, value=on)} doesn't seem to recognize that the fieldId=1 checkbox is checked (it always goes to the ELSE clause).
it used to work fine ***: SEWilco has joined #tikiwiki
lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki sylvie1: strange Petjal2 TRACKERITEMFIELD still working for me..
but the Download page - yoju should be able to download
s/last download/edit -: sylvie1 thinking about developping an help - what perm a user has on a page and why? ***: Hansi_MP has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
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