#tikiwiki 2008-07-17,Thu

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chibaguy	Mootools MyTiki seems to be broken now. It worked before, except in IE6. Now broken in FF. Clicking on page bar link loads the content immediately under the link, pushing other links down page. Clicking on another link just displays that content under that link. The previous content doesn't get replaced. It stays in view. :-(.	[04:22]
	Hmm. I commented out the " <!--//--><![CDATA[//><!--" and moo mytiki worked again. Then removed the smarty comment tags (returned file to original) and moo mytiki _still_ worked.. (re tiki-mytiki_mootabs.tpl)	[04:32]
	Oh, I need to SVN update -- I'm using some old files...	[04:39]
franck	Hi all	[04:40]
luciash	heya	[04:40]
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chibaguy	hi guys	[04:49]
luciash	wut's da lin 2 dload tw 2,0rc1 ? not on sf.net yo chibaguy http://public.amette.eu/ ?	[04:57]
chibaguy	yes, that looks right.	[05:02]
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luciash	chibaguy: did the svn up help ?	[05:13]
chibaguy	About MyTiki? Yes, I think so; I'm still checking.	[05:14]
luciash	yup	[05:14]
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chibaguy	How do I directly upload an image when using the wiki editpage? Now "Upload picture:" opens the file gallery, not the local drive. Are we supposed to upload an image to a file gallery, then go to wiki editpage? (2.0) And the "Upload picture" label is followed by an "Add another image" button (the one that opens the file gallery popup). Why 'another' when this is the first image on the page?	[05:46]
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luciash	./htaccess.sh script is missing in 2.0 ? chibaguy: no idea about the image uploads, sorry	[06:00]
chibaguy	That's ok. Mostly I'm complaining to myself. ;-)	[06:02]
luciash	ah, nope, i have to chmod it first to be executable LOL, same here... hoping someone listens and maybe gives a hint ;)	[06:02]
chibaguy	I guess the procedure for adding images to wiki pages was revised to be easier, but either I don't understand how, or something is broken. The "add image" button opens the file gallery list in a popup. I navigate to an image file and select it, but then get my browser file download dialog. Looking back at the wikitext, {file name="imagename.jpg"...} is added, but in a preview "No such attachment on this page" apopears where the image should be.	[06:03]
luciash	hmm, i have "Operations failed: 1 SQL queries" at the installation of RC1 with mysql classic pasted the error here: http://sh.nu/p/24675 chibaguy: i'll try the image upload in a second too ;)	[06:08]
chibaguy	I can upload an image to the file gallery but it doesn't display (only the "Image" text in a box), although I can download the image again, so it does exist in the gallery. Trying to upload a file for page attachment, I get a Cannot write to this file:71f04b4a1fba79e37732bad5352975a4 error.	[06:12]
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luciash	chibaguy: hmm, all it does here when i enable pictures in admin wiki is that it puts the img syntax tag to wiki page seems because i haven't enabled galleries with default installation profile ? "Add another image" should be probably called "Add more images at once"	[06:21]
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luciash	with galleries disabled it adds {img src="img/wiki_up/webcam_zubr.jpg" } to the wiki page but preview does no upload of the image, so it doesn't display anything	[06:24]
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luciash	i'll install latest SVN 2.0 instead and lets see chibaguy: wth ? even with enabled image and file galleries it doesn't behave like you described :-o it's the same as i described before here preview only adds the tag, no image upload performed and f**k, file galleries page gives SQL error :( http://sh.nu/p/24676	[06:25]
chibaguy	I don't get that error -- I guess my db needs updating. :-)	[06:33]
luciash	i hope 2.0 doesn't support only mysqli version of MySQL	[06:33]
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luciash	luciash giving up for now with 2.0 and mysql 4 classic and going up with 1.9.11	[07:33]
chibaguy	chibaguy using 2.0 with mysql 5.0.51a-community with apparently no db problem.	[07:38]
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zorp	hi all	[09:19]
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mstef	hi all.	[10:28]
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mstef	how does one localize dates in tiki? i have the problem, that the date is formated in many different ways, but none in the correct national format. i mean there are different places, which show dates in different formats did i miss something?	[11:58]
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zorp	mstef - have you checked the date and time formats in tiki-admin.php?page=general	[12:01]
mstef	no, that's what i was missing. thanks	[12:02]
zorp	no problem!	[12:02]
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zorp	chibaguy - you around?	[14:18]
chibaguy	hi zorp	[14:21]
zorp	hey, I got a stylesheet question I am using a custom version of tikineat and I keep getting a black line right above the "comment" button at the end of every page any idea where that black line is coming from? using v.2rc1 but the theme is from 1.0b	[14:21]
chibaguy	I use firefox and the firebut add-on to help identify things like that. uh, firebug	[14:23]
zorp	ok lemme install - may need your help using it if thats ok?	[14:23]
chibaguy	offhand I don't know sure	[14:24]
zorp	thnx	[14:24]
chibaguy	The black line goes all the way across the center column?	[14:25]
zorp	yup	[14:25]
chibaguy	Well, try checking in firefox/firebut, would be the easiest way probably. jeez, firebut again.	[14:28]
zorp	you had mexian food last night or something? ;)	[14:29]
chibaguy	good one :-)	[14:30]
luciash	LOL	[14:33]
zorp	chibaguy - thanx a lot, I wish I asked you this question a month ago - woulda saved me a couple of days of work :) it was div#page-bar and firebug rules	[14:38]
chibaguy	that was quick	[14:40]
zorp	tell me about it := :) it's amazing how much faster things go if you use the right tools and I can see exactly where the conflict is :) my stylesheet vs 1.9to2.0.css	[14:40]
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chibaguy	great what operating system are you using?	[14:43]
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zorp	xp	[14:44]
chibaguy	then I also recommend WinMerge, for comparing files.	[14:44]
zorp	thanx, I was looking for a good one that does that	[14:44]
chibaguy	open source dog-walking time again.	[14:45]
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luciash	:)	[14:46]
zorp	lkj heh my enter key stoped working	[14:46]
sylvieg	in doc.tw.org - how do I call the tw release for the thing I added tw>=3.0 ? or tw>=2.1 I am lost with what will become trunk	[14:47]
luciash	3.0	[14:48]
sylvieg	I fell strange to put 3.0 in the doc..... ths luciash	[14:49]
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zorp	question regarding the appearance of articles actually - just looking for oppinions it bothers me that the action-icons for the articles are below the heading I think they should be in the heading or above the article or something... for instance http://www.ourrights.eu/tiki-view_articles.JPG http://www.ourrights.eu/tiki-read_article.JPG that way the heading and the main text area do not have to be interupted with buttons any thoughts?	[15:22]
chiba_walking	zorp, I agree. I moved the icons to just below the article title in some themes.	[15:26]
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chiba_walking	Also I think it's a problem that the article heading text is in a table and the rest of the article in a div, makes styling harder, especially for IE and its font sizes. But the table is due to the article image. That needs to be rethought, I think.	[15:28]
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zorp	hehe yah maybe we should re-think the appearance and design of articles... or discuss a bit more	[15:29]
chiba_talking	I think it would be good to look at articles, blogs and wiki pages and see how the construction can be unified somehow.	[15:30]
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chiba_talking	(also forum posts) etc	[15:30]
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zorp	my thoughts as well	[15:31]
chiba_talking	Articles probably need help first. But the blogs should look more like the rest of the blogs on the planet, I think.	[15:31]
mlpvolt	morning! (for some)	[15:32]
chiba_talking	I don't think it's necessary to have "Blog:" on there.	[15:32]
zorp	hi mlpvolt chiba_talking - I agree	[15:33]
mlpvolt	blogs/articles - i have had similar thoughts	[15:33]
chiba_talking	hi mlpvolt	[15:33]
mlpvolt	i'm fighting the urge to "bliki" instead of blog	[15:33]
chiba_talking	When Tiki's blog design was done originally, maybe the label was needed because blobs were newer. But now everyone knows the format.	[15:34]
mlpvolt	- to create a blog looking wiki template.	[15:34]
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mlpvolt	having fun testing 2.0 - hit a stumbling block - the install.php - can't seem to reactivate it.	[15:35]
zorp	you mean tiki-setup.php?	[15:36]
mlpvolt	i think i had a bad DB upgrade on this test so i wanted to go back and run it again - re-uploaded the tiki-install.php this may be the problem - if there are changes i don't know about. the problem is that running tiki-install.php keeps bouncing me back to the home page.	[15:36]
zorp	you sure you don't mean tiki-setup.php?	[15:38]
chibaguy	mlpvolt, is that a new install or an update?	[15:38]
mlpvolt	it was an upgrade from 1.10 rc1 to 2	[15:39]
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mlpvolt	i wiped the whole file tree, uploaded the 2.0 release and pointed to tiki-install.php - the usual procedure	[15:40]
chibaguy	How far do you get through the install page?	[15:41]
mlpvolt	i selected the 1.9 to 2.0 upgrade and ran it. however it was a little wierd - it skipped the step where it says "upgrade complete" then the choices to proceed to homepage and disable installer or not. - it took me straight to the homepage. i would like to run the installer again but now pointing to tiki-install.php lands me on the home page.	[15:42]
chibaguy	The only 1.10b to 2.0 upgrade I've done, I just overwrote files and updated the db, so I didn't test the install page.	[15:45]
mlpvolt	i looked and the code for install.php and at the end there was (not claiming to be much of a coder) something that looked like a smarty variable for "installer disabled" and maybe that was "on" and i was being redirected.	[15:46]
chibaguy	Maybe ask on the dev mailing list.	[15:48]
mlpvolt	plus there is a whole new "installer" folder now that is new to me. so i'm confused now. :)	[15:48]
mstef	svn switch is very slow for me, anyone else noticed this?	[15:49]
Caarrie	http://sourceforge.net/community/forum/topic.php?id=2902&page&replies=1	[15:49]
mlpvolt	mstef: yeah sylvie said yesterday they were moving a server.	[15:50]
mstef	caralluna: thanks again	[15:50]
Caarrie	that is not my name :P	[15:50]
mlpvolt	chiba: thanks	[15:50]
mstef	s/caralluna/Caarrie/g	[15:50]
Caarrie	yw	[15:50]
mstef	Caarrie: sorry	[15:50]
Caarrie	its ok	[15:50]
mstef	Caarrie: i read that on the sf.net forum, but didn't expect such a massive impact.	[15:51]
Caarrie	i cant even view the svn log on sf	[15:51]
mstef	well, what would happen if i ^c the switch? hmm, nothing happens... wow, after almost half a minute it caught the signal...	[15:52]
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chibaguy	time to sleep in the far east; cya later.	[15:56]
zorp	g'night	[15:57]
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Darkbee	I've come to pester people with questions again. A quick question: Does the calender module provide an event recurrence feature? i.e. a event that happens with repeating frequency such as a birthday.	[17:10]
sylvieg	not yet	[17:17]
Darkbee	thx	[17:18]
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Darkbee	What are considered the most stable/robust themes for 1.9.11? and will those be good for 2.0 or should I look to the new themes? Darkbee ... always with the questions :o	[17:30]
caralluna	caralluna likes those ;-)	[17:31]
sylvieg	in 1.9 it was tikineat - but tikineat will not be anymore maintain in 2.0 as 2.0 is tableless layout	[17:31]
caralluna	caralluna learns a lot too ;-)	[17:31]
sylvieg	for 2.0 ask chibaguy - not sure which one will be the leader theme sorry 3.0 we are in a transition	[17:32]
caralluna	caralluna is hoping darkroom ... it's beautiful ... of faulkner of=or	[17:33]
Darkbee	well tableless is certainly the more standards compliant approach and one I'd probably advocate... I guess I'd better not get too fond of any particular theme... seems like things are a changin' (for the better I might add) thanks again sylvieg	[17:36]
caralluna	yeah ... alot of the new themes are beautiful ...but too much white for my liking in many of them	[17:36]
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Darkbee	white can make it easier to read, but I know what you mean. Too many shades of grey (if you include white as a shade of grey) ;)	[17:39]
caralluna	white has nothing to do with gray imho ... I think white is useless as background on computer screens ;-)	[17:40]
Darkbee	I feel so sad... I was really happy this morning because I figured out how to create a phplayers menu module...then realized that it is listed as predefined choice for custom modules. caralluna: So what is the best background colour?	[17:41]
caralluna	black	[17:41]
Darkbee	Darkbee thinks lime green.... in another universe	[17:41]
caralluna	or gray dark gray that is ;-)	[17:42]
Darkbee	you should like the "trollparty" theme then! ;) it's pretty .... pretty "in yer face!" :D	[17:42]
caralluna	yah, and planetfall ... and underworld but I think both darkroom and trollparty has too big fonts at least on the mac, not that big on Windows it seems	[17:43]
Darkbee	one day when I'm feeling brave I'll pick a theme I like that need modifications and make them. but I still feel like I'm getting to know my way around Tiki first I still keep finding new features or things that I didn't know about and I've been using it for a couple of months! Never ceases to amaze me.	[17:46]
caralluna	i took a quick walkthrough of of the drakroom theme, made fonts a bit smaller and margins smaller ... with that I learnt a lot of how not to do it ;-) btw: caralluna = Hansi_MP/Hansi_MBP :-P	[17:48]
zorp	hehe like woody allen said - you are never alone with schizophrenia	[17:49]
caralluna	lol no ;-) O though that it would be a nice thing to have the same name here as I have on the tw.o sites ;-)	[17:50]
Darkbee	Darkbee sees a lightbulb above his head	[17:51]
caralluna	lol also, caralluna has been my main nick for 10-15 years or so ;-)	[17:51]
Darkbee	guess trollparty would be no good for the iphone then either if the fonts are too big :P	[17:51]
caralluna	it' not that bad there ..but I would like them a little smaller ...but phpmenulayers seems not to work in Opera mini :-(	[17:52]
Darkbee	bigger is better so I've been told	[17:53]
caralluna	caralluna disagrees ;-)	[17:53]
Darkbee	Darkbee has never used Opera... mini or otherwise	[17:54]
caralluna	<3 Opera :-P	[17:54]
Darkbee	I was resistant to Firefox for a long time but then I just got fed up with IE and other browsers using the IE engine.	[17:54]
caralluna	if you have a phone it works on it's simply marvellous The only sensible use of Java I've seen ;-) (it is in Java, right) ;-)	[17:55]
Darkbee	my phone can barely display pictures... never mind a browser	[17:55]
caralluna	ah	[17:55]
Darkbee	in fact, I'm lucky it even has any colour but it works quite nicely to make phone calls. I assume Java yes... kinda be hard to write a browser in Javascript :)	[17:56]
caralluna	a lot of people are using phones to make calls ... what's with that? ;-)	[17:56]
Darkbee	what next? people using feet to walk to places! What is the world coming to!	[17:59]
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caralluna	caralluna shakes his head looking all surprised	[18:12]
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koko	hi All	[18:36]
zorp	hey	[18:36]
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goramba	I know I'm going to feel dumb once I figure it out, but I'm wanting to have a series of wiki pages you can drill down through. So on the menu it has "Maryland" that they can click and get a list of cities, or if ones not listed they can create one, then drill-down as far as they want. That seems so easy but I'm missing the checkmark or something! :)	[18:51]
amette	goramba: check out structures	[18:59]
goramba	where would I find that?	[18:59]
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Darkbee	goramba: wiki pages can be put in sequence sort of like what you describe. When you do this, it's known as a structure. look under the wiki options wiki menu	[19:04]
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mstef	is it possible to have a summary in the blog rss feed, instead of the whole blogpost? ...page... doesn't seem to work	[19:08]
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caralluna	I get a weird problem with the RSS feeds When I try to write a descriptoion for the Formu feeds, that description just disappears	[19:26]
	also, the name I have set for calendars feed seems to be ignored any ideas?	[19:35]
mstef	caralluna: what version are you using?	[19:37]
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caralluna	It says 2.0 RC2, but I thought we still were on RC1 ;-) Anyway, 2.0 SVN branch	[19:39]
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goramba	I'm losing it. What "wiki menu" do people keep referring to that contains the structures?? I click on Wiki under the standard menu and just get the home page of it, nothing else. In the Admin section the only thing abuot it is something to do with viewing pages as structures...what the huh	[19:47]
luciash	goramba, click the folder image of the Wiki item to expand it	[19:50]
goramba	I'm...a damn...idiot. wow. NOT used to having to click specifically on the folder. Thank you! hah..wooh	[19:51]
luciash	goramba: well, it's usability issue, not your fault ;)	[19:52]
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goramba	do you know of a theme or something that makes it more of clear a tree style? maybe fixes that a little.	[19:53]
caralluna	maybe planetfall puts it clearer	[19:53]
luciash	i don't think so, maybe planetfall, yup	[19:54]
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SEWilco2	Some themes have plus signs instead of folder icons.	[19:54]
caralluna	...or one of those with +/- yeah ;-) dont remember any names though	[19:54]
SEWilco2	goramba: are you a tw.o editor? Say no if you don't know what that means.	[19:55]
luciash	LOL	[19:55]
goramba	mmm. no	[19:55]
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SEWilco2	goramba: OK. I'll try to add a table of theme characteristics to the theme documentation. It won't help you right now, but will help others later.	[19:56]
caralluna_	good idea :-)	[19:56]
goramba	Oh yeah that would be awesome.	[19:57]
caralluna_	including the color base (dark/light) would be nice in such a table?	[19:57]
SEWilco2	Yeah. I just waded through the default themes, trying to pick something suitable. Guess I'll get to do it some more in the coming weeks.	[19:58]
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SEWilco2	#tikiwiki: now with more Carallunas than ever!	[19:59]
caralluna	lol yeah, sorry about that ;-) caralluna=Hansi_MP/Hansi_MBP :-) probably makes sense having the same nick here as I do on the tw.o sites	[19:59]
amette	oooooh, one of those schizophrenic guys... ;)	[20:00]
SEWilco2	No problem. I'm too far down the user list for most to notice I'm in twice also. Left my home machine in.	[20:00]
amette	amette nods with a vengeance about having one and the same nick.... :P	[20:00]
SEWilco2	caralluna: You're a Member of Parliament?	[20:01]
caralluna	in addition I'm testing out other IRC clients, so if I forget loggin out it could be pretty crowded of me ;-) uhm ... no, what makes you say that? :-)	[20:01]
SEWilco2	"MP"	[20:02]
Darkbee	Darkbee is heading on out.	[20:02]
caralluna	lol lo ;-) just designates which machine I'm loggend in on ... MP=MacPro, MBP=MacBook Pro	[20:02]
SEWilco2	I get worse when I have the N800 on my hip in IRC, and it decides to hop between various Wifi and phone links as I move around.	[20:02]
caralluna	caralluna waves to Darkbee lol	[20:03]
Darkbee	IP=iPhone ;) bye	[20:03]
SEWilco2	Darkbee darkens our neighborhood with his departure.	[20:03]
caralluna	lol yeah ;-) lol	[20:03]
Darkbee	I saw that! :P	[20:03]
caralluna	HEY! Where'd the lights go? :-P	[20:03]
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caralluna	Aybody have an idea about my RSS problem I posted earlier? though I might have posted it as Hansi_MP :-P	[20:07]
SEWilco2	SEWilco2 scrolls up A feed wasn't appearing, as well as a calendar with a specific name? Do you have categories on any of those materials? (I've been reading about the new category permissions...)	[20:10]
mstef	yeah, sorry i was off, what version do you use?	[20:11]
caralluna	the feed appears OK, but the description I enter in the admin just disappears 2.0RC2 it says menaning RC1 SVN	[20:11]
SEWilco2	Any special characters in the description such as quote or apostrophe?	[20:12]
caralluna	The calendar ignores what I type in in the title (but the title I type in remains in the title field in admin)	[20:13]
SEWilco2	By "feed" do you mean outgoing feed (a URL in your site) or an RSS-fed module showing stuff from another source?	[20:13]
caralluna	nop, only a dot and normal letters outgoing feed yes	[20:13]
SEWilco2	I haven't set up an outgoing feed yet, and I'm on 1.9.11. Anyone in the peanut gallery...?	[20:14]
caralluna	peanut gallery?	[20:15]
SEWilco2	The people sitting in those bleachers, off-camera.	[20:15]
caralluna	;-)	[20:16]
mstef	caralluna: i can confirm your problem.	[20:17]
SEWilco2	Try taking out the dot and using, oh.. a six-character name, for testing. Just in case that matters.	[20:18]
caralluna	thanks, that's a start ;-)	[20:18]
mstef	it looks like title_rss_calendars is not set in tiki-calendars_rss	[20:18]
SEWilco2	mstef: Ah, so there's no code to display the title? That would explain the symptom.	[20:19]
mstef	no the code is there, but there is no value to display.	[20:19]
caralluna	though the title i keyed in on the blogs feed and wiki feed works fine, title and all	[20:20]
mstef	whoops	[20:20]
sylvieg	I found the bug on calendar rss - 2 secs	[20:20]
SEWilco2	Oh, so the title is not being retrieved, so the code displays the nothing which it knows? English tends to get contorted when talking about nothings.	[20:20]
mstef	exactly :)	[20:21]
caralluna	hmmm... blogs and wiki feeds are the only ones with data ... could that be something the other ones are enabled and active, but have no data yet	[20:22]
SEWilco2	caralluna: Sounds like they found a bug, which will probably be fixed in short order.	[20:24]
caralluna	good :-)	[20:24]
sylvieg	thre are a messing confusuion in the rss betwwen rss_calendar and rss_calendarS	[20:25]
caralluna	is that also the case regarding the forums feed? though it's not the same kind of problem there, so I guess not	[20:26]
SEWilco2	I think they're not responding because their eyes are busy in editor screens, as mine are with a different problem.	[20:30]
caralluna	Yeah, guess so ;-)	[20:30]
sylvieg	dammit - sourceforge is dead again	[20:30]
SEWilco2	caralluna: If you have to leave.. well, you're on 2.0 so you expected to have to fetch new versions. Test for a fix in several days before filing a formal bug report.	[20:31]
caralluna	I'm updating all the time ;-) ...and I usually stay logged on, so I can read any fixes that comes up :-)	[20:32]
goramba	I noticed when I added a page that the structure didn't change. It says (cached) at the top and I'm wondering if that's why....or is it?	[20:32]
sylvieg	can somebody else do a svn update . I have svn: PROPFIND of '/svnroot/tikiwiki/trunk': Could not read status line: Connection reset by peer (https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net)	[20:33]
SEWilco2	goramba: Yes, you're probably seeing a cached (old) version. There's a refresh method someplace.	[20:34]
goramba	hmm awful annoying :)	[20:36]
caralluna	You can disable the caching I think though I don't remember exactly where at the moment	[20:36]
goramba	http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Cache - "RFE - It would be very nice if there was a way of purging the cache via the tiki interface."	[20:37]
sylvieg	I can not commit - but the fix is $feed="calendar"; in tiki-calendars_rss.php and what is the other feed that is not working?	[20:37]
caralluna	Forums - when I input a title for the feed in the RSS admin, the titleI inout just disappears when I press apply	[20:38]
SEWilco2	goramba: I found mention of adding at the end of the url: &refresh=1	[20:40]
caralluna	and there are others that doesn't retain the title ... It seems OK in the admin, but when I subscribe to the feeds it hasn't got the title I gave it	[20:40]
goramba	SEWilco awesome that worked. Any idea how to keep cache off? When people make modifications it's kind of strange that they don't show up automatically. Might confuse people into doing it over and over.	[20:41]
caralluna	I think default chache time is 5 minutes or so?	[20:41]
goramba	I managed to create two pages that showed up in the structure twice under the same name because of it. Ahh found it Admin-Wiki-"Cache wiki pages(global) - set to 0 (no cache)	[20:41]
koko	I made a file galley but I can't edit the name of I can't replace it can anyone confirm this issue? I didn't put it in the buglist yet, because i first want to have it confirmed	[20:44]
SEWilco2	goramba: There are cache options someplace in admin options. koko: The name of the file gallery is "I can't replace it"?	[20:46]
koko	of = or sorry, a dutch word slipped through	[20:47]
SEWilco2	koko: What name did you use? Any special characters?	[20:48]
koko	no, the name was: avondactiviteit (not even a capital) I also can't get it deleted	[20:49]
SEWilco2	koko: Which TW version? Is the file gallery stored in database or in a directory? (I don't remember if that is even a configuration option)	[20:50]
koko	1.9 and stored in DB	[20:50]
caralluna	SEWilco2: Yeah, you can configure it, at least in 2.0	[20:51]
SEWilco2	I don't have any suggestions. Anyone else?	[20:52]
koko	also the Javescript options (when you click on the tool-icon) don't work	[20:53]
caralluna	When I get those kind of problems I go directly into the database usually, but that is probably not the recommended thing to do	[20:53]
koko	the page reloads, but it seems to do nothing I also got into DB but I prefer TikiWiki	[20:54]
caralluna	be very careful when you go the DB way, I have screwed up many times ;-) yea me too	[20:55]
koko	hhmm ... best to file a bug?	[20:55]
zorp	koko - if you have time just hang out a while	[20:56]
koko	I have time	[20:56]
zorp	there have been discussions	[20:56]
SEWilco2	So far I've only had to go in the DB when I made the admin pages stop displaying. I configured one thing the wrong way and the PHP blew up before emitting HTML.	[20:56]
zorp	about that issue	[20:56]
koko	ah?	[20:56]
zorp	well - file gallery in general	[20:57]
koko	ok has there anything been decided allready?	[20:57]
zorp	what do you mean?	[20:57]
koko	in the discussions	[20:57]
zorp	nope the file galery just comes up bugs and all so some of the dev people may have encountered it lemme know what you did and I will try to verify or you can try to verify it on http://www.opensourcecms.com/cms/tiki/admin.html but I noticed some one has seriously messed with the settings there :)	[20:58]
caralluna	give it	[21:00]
koko	I made a file gallery and saved it (so it was created), netxt I selected the file gallery I wanted to move and I hit the edit icon (under the list)	[21:00]
caralluna	give it max two hours, and the messed settings will disappear (opensourcecms.com) ;-)	[21:01]
koko	opensourceCMS got reset :-D	[21:03]
caralluna	:-) They do every two hours :-) omg I spent many hours there :-)	[21:03]
zorp	ok - I can edit the name of a gallery are you trying to move an individual file?	[21:04]
koko	hhmm ... I can also there	[21:04]
zorp	ok	[21:04]
caralluna	what version are you using koko? where you have the problem	[21:05]
koko	I'm checking right now	[21:05]
zorp	have you checked the admin configurations for file galleries it may be something with the file stored in the database vs. file stored in folder	[21:05]
koko	1.10.0b1	[21:06]
SEWilco2	koko: were you doing this as an admin or a user? Maybe user doesn't have a gallery permission in his group?	[21:06]
koko	admin	[21:07]
caralluna	I've got that on my test server, so I can test it ... zorp, what version did you test it on?	[21:07]
zorp	I thought koko said 1.9 before so I checked it on 1.9 but 1.10 has had issues with the galeries	[21:08]
koko	I also thought I used 1.9	[21:09]
zorp	and if it works on 2.0 then there really is no point in reporting it...	[21:09]
caralluna	ok	[21:09]
koko	no, that's a fact I'll try to update my wiki	[21:09]
zorp	make sure you backup your db! :)	[21:10]
koko	:)	[21:10]
caralluna	...an filedir :-)	[21:10]
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koko	ok, I'll follow the instructions on updating	[21:10]
zorp	koko hang on lemme try it on my 1.10	[21:10]
koko	ok	[21:11]
zorp	then we can see if it is your settings or a bug	[21:11]
koko	Is there anyone here using the contact manager? I'm writing a text about TikiWiki and CRM, but I'd like to check my opnion with some other TW'ers	[21:12]
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zorp	ok - I enabled the file galeries, created one, renamed it and deleted it without problems	[21:15]
koko	hhmm ... I'll have to check my settings Will come back to that again later	[21:15]
zorp	i would check if in your general settings if you store to the database or in a seperate folder and if you store to a folder if that folder is set up properly	[21:16]
caralluna	I can't even find the rename option	[21:17]
zorp	and if the feature php-layers dynamic menu is enabled	[21:17]
koko	ok	[21:18]
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a13x	hi	[21:18]
zorp	hey	[21:18]
a13x	i moved my wiki to a different server and now i get an error	[21:18]
caralluna	good luck koko :-)	[21:18]
koko	hi	[21:18]
a13x	PHP Warning: session_start() [<a href='function.session-start'>function.session-start</a>]: open(/var/lib/php/session/sess_q35ff5okth6rqlj269b6akag75, O_RDWR) failed: Permission denied (13) i can't log in	[21:18]
zorp	eek	[21:19]
caralluna	I gotta go to bed ... see you 2morrow folks! Thanks for great help tonight! :-)	[21:19]
zorp	c'ya caralluna	[21:19]
koko	see you tomorrow	[21:19]
zorp	a13x didn't you have login problems yesterday too?	[21:20]
a13x	not yesterday i didn't solve it	[21:20]
zorp	oh	[21:20]
a13x	the problem is session files are owned by apache	[21:20]
zorp	well, then it's beyond me :(	[21:21]
a13x	i am using suphp -rw------- 1 apache apache 16K Jul 11 16:32 sess_127ha1f3ql1b562hbflvj4iodp98uu5u drwxrwx--- 2 root apache 4.0K Jul 17 14:06 . but wiki is executing as another user	[21:21]
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luciash	hi luis	[21:37]
lphuberdeau	finally home	[21:42]
luciash	sweet sweet home :)	[21:42]
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lphuberdeau	looking forward to sleeping in my bed, but that will have to wait until after the party tonight	[21:43]
sylvieg	always doing parties these tikidevs ;-) is marc back too?	[21:45]
luciash	lphuberdeau: when you settle down and relax check out the pics from TikiFest ;)	[21:46]
lphuberdeau	yeah, marc also is sure will was a great time	[21:50]
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luciash	yeah, it was ! :)	[22:02]
amette	awesome time - just sorting my pics also and thinking of how great it was! :)	[22:03]
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luciash	wb home marclaporte !	[22:30]
marclaporte	thanks! was a long trip	[22:31]
amette	you should sleep like for 48 hours or so, man ;) amette is slowly getting back into his normal day rythm... ... next week will be good again, I guess! :)	[22:35]
lphuberdeau	I'm doing pretty good right now... cooking already... after the last trip I spent 2 days not eating or doing anything because I was too lazy	[22:48]
amette	hehe, cool, seems like you're getting used to it... ;)	[22:49]
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