Mootools MyTiki seems to be broken now. It worked before, except in IE6. Now broken in FF. Clicking on page bar link loads the content immediately under the link, pushing other links down page. Clicking on another link just displays that content under that link. The previous content doesn't get replaced. It stays in view. :-(.
Hmm. I commented out the " <!--//--><![CDATA[//><!--" and moo mytiki worked again. Then removed the smarty comment tags (returned file to original) and moo mytiki _still_ worked.. 
(re tiki-mytiki_mootabs.tpl)
Oh, I need to SVN update -- I'm using some old files... 
Hi all
heya
hi guys
wut's da lin 2 dload tw 2,0rc1 ? not on sf.net
yo chibaguy
http://public.amette.eu/ ?
yes, that looks right.
chibaguy: did the svn up help ?
About MyTiki? Yes, I think so; I'm still checking.
yup
How do I directly upload an image when using the wiki editpage? Now "Upload picture:" opens the file gallery, not the local drive. 
Are we supposed to upload an image to a file gallery, then go to wiki editpage?
(2.0)
And the "Upload picture" label is followed by an "Add another image" button (the one that opens the file gallery popup). Why 'another' when this is the first image on the page?
./htaccess.sh script is missing in 2.0 ?
chibaguy: no idea about the image uploads, sorry
That's ok. Mostly I'm complaining to myself. ;-)
ah, nope, i have to chmod it first to be executable
LOL, same here... hoping someone listens and maybe gives a hint ;)
I guess the procedure for adding images to wiki pages was revised to be easier, but either I don't understand how, or something is broken.
The "add image" button opens the file gallery list in a popup. I navigate to an image file and select it, but then get my browser file download dialog. Looking back at the wikitext, {file name="imagename.jpg"...} is added, but in a preview "No such attachment on this page" apopears where the image should be.
hmm, i have "Operations failed: 1 SQL queries" at the installation of RC1
with mysql classic
pasted the error here: http://sh.nu/p/24675
chibaguy: i'll try the image upload in a second too ;)
I can upload an image to the file gallery but it doesn't display (only the "Image" text in a box), although I can download the image again, so it does exist in the gallery.
Trying to upload a file for page attachment, I get a Cannot write to this file:71f04b4a1fba79e37732bad5352975a4 error.
chibaguy: hmm, all it does here when i enable pictures in admin wiki is that it puts the img syntax tag to wiki page
seems because i haven't enabled galleries with default installation profile ?
"Add another image" should be probably called "Add more images at once"
with galleries disabled it adds {img src="img/wiki_up/webcam_zubr.jpg" } to the wiki page but preview does no upload of the image, so it doesn't display anything
i'll install latest SVN 2.0 instead and lets see
chibaguy: wth ? even with enabled image and file galleries it doesn't behave like you described :-o
it's the same as i described before here
preview only adds the tag, no image upload performed
and f**k, file galleries page gives SQL error :(
http://sh.nu/p/24676
I don't get that error -- I guess my db needs updating. :-)
i hope 2.0 doesn't support only mysqli version of MySQL
hi all
hi all.
how does one localize dates in tiki? i have the problem, that the date is formated in many different ways, but none in the correct national format. 
i mean there are different places, which show dates in different formats
did i miss something?
mstef - have you checked the date and time formats in tiki-admin.php?page=general
no, that's what i was missing. thanks
no problem!
chibaguy - you around?
hi zorp
hey, I got a stylesheet question
I am using a custom version of tikineat
and I keep getting a black line right above the "comment" button
at the end of every page
any idea where that black line is coming from?
using v.2rc1
but the theme is from 1.0b
I use firefox and the firebut add-on to help identify things like that.
uh, firebug
ok
lemme install - may need your help using it if thats ok?
offhand I don't know
sure
thnx
The black line goes all the way across the center column?
yup
Well, try checking in firefox/firebut, would be the easiest way probably.
jeez, firebut again. 
you had mexian food last night or something? ;)
good one :-)
LOL
chibaguy - thanx a lot, I wish I asked you this question a month ago - woulda saved me a couple of days of work :) it was div#page-bar
and firebug rules
that was quick
tell me about it :=
:)
it's amazing how much faster things go if you use the right tools
and I can see exactly where the conflict is :)
my stylesheet vs 1.9to2.0.css
great
what operating system are you using?
xp
then I also recommend WinMerge, for comparing files.
thanx, I was looking for a good one that does that
open source
dog-walking time again.
:)
lkj
heh
my enter key stoped working
in doc.tw.org - how do I call the tw release for the thing I added tw>=3.0
?
or tw>=2.1
I am lost with what will become trunk
3.0
I fell strange to put 3.0 in the doc..... ths luciash
question regarding the appearance of articles
actually - just looking for oppinions
it bothers me that the action-icons for the articles are below the heading
I think they should be in the heading or above the article or something...
for instance
http://www.ourrights.eu/tiki-view_articles.JPG
http://www.ourrights.eu/tiki-read_article.JPG
that way the heading and the main text area do not have to be interupted with buttons
any thoughts?
zorp, I agree. I moved the icons to just below the article title in some themes. 
Also I think it's a problem that the article heading text is in a table and the rest of the article in a div, makes styling harder, especially for IE and its font sizes.
But the table is due to the article image. That needs to be rethought, I think.
hehe
yah maybe we should re-think the appearance and design of articles...
or discuss a bit more
I think it would be good to look at articles, blogs and wiki pages and see how the construction can be unified somehow.
(also forum posts)
etc
my thoughts as well
Articles probably need help first.
But the blogs should look more like the rest of the blogs on the planet, I think.
morning! (for some) 
I don't think it's necessary to have "Blog:" on there.
hi mlpvolt 
chiba_talking - I agree
blogs/articles - i have had similar thoughts
hi mlpvolt
i'm fighting the urge to "bliki" instead of blog
When Tiki's blog design was done originally, maybe the label was needed because blobs were newer.
But now everyone knows the format.
 - to create a blog looking wiki template.
having fun testing 2.0  - hit a stumbling block - the install.php - can't seem to reactivate it. 
you mean tiki-setup.php?
i think i had a bad DB upgrade on this test so i wanted to go back and run it again - re-uploaded the tiki-install.php
this may be the problem - if there are changes i don't know about. 
the problem is that running tiki-install.php keeps bouncing me back to the home page. 
you sure you don't mean tiki-setup.php?
mlpvolt, is that a new install or an update?
it was an upgrade from 1.10 rc1 to 2
i wiped the whole file tree, uploaded the 2.0 release and pointed to tiki-install.php
- the usual procedure
How far do you get through the install page?
i selected the 1.9 to 2.0 upgrade and ran it. 
however it was a little wierd - it skipped the step where it says "upgrade complete" then the choices to proceed to homepage and disable installer or not. - it took me straight to the homepage. 
i would like to run the installer again but now pointing to tiki-install.php lands me on the home page. 
The only 1.10b to 2.0 upgrade I've done, I just overwrote files and updated the db, so I didn't test the install page.
i looked and the code for install.php and at the end there was (not claiming to be much of a coder) something that looked like a smarty variable for "installer disabled" and maybe that was "on" and i was being redirected.
Maybe ask on the dev mailing list.
plus there is a whole new "installer" folder now that is new to me. 
so i'm confused now. :)
svn switch is very slow for me, anyone else noticed this?
http://sourceforge.net/community/forum/topic.php?id=2902&page&replies=1
mstef: yeah sylvie said yesterday they were moving a server.
caralluna: thanks again
that is not my name :P
chiba: thanks
s/caralluna/Caarrie/g
yw
Caarrie: sorry
its ok
Caarrie: i read that on the sf.net forum, but didn't expect such a massive impact.
i cant even view the svn log on sf
well, what would happen if i ^c the switch?
hmm, nothing happens...
wow, after almost half a minute it caught the signal...
time to sleep in the far east; cya later.
g'night
I've come to pester people with questions again.
A quick question: Does the calender module provide an event recurrence feature? i.e. a event that happens with repeating frequency such as a birthday.
not yet
thx
What are considered the most stable/robust themes for 1.9.11?  and will those be good for 2.0 or should I look to the new themes?
in 1.9 it was tikineat - but tikineat will not be anymore maintain in 2.0 as 2.0 is tableless layout
for 2.0 ask chibaguy - not sure which one will be the leader theme
sorry 3.0
we are in a transition
of=or
well tableless is certainly the more standards compliant approach and one I'd probably advocate... I guess I'd better not get too fond of any particular theme... seems like things are a changin' (for the better I might add)
thanks again sylvieg
yeah ... alot of the new themes are beautiful
...but too much white for my liking in many of them
white can make it easier to read, but I know what you mean.
Too many shades of grey (if you include white as a shade of grey)  ;)
white has nothing to do with gray imho ... I think white is useless as background on computer screens ;-)
I feel so sad...  I was really happy this morning because I figured out how to create a phplayers menu module...then realized that it is listed as predefined choice for custom modules.
caralluna: So what is the best background colour?
black
or gray
dark gray that is ;-)
you should like the "trollparty" theme then! ;)
it's pretty .... pretty "in yer face!"
:D
yah, and planetfall ... and underworld
but I think both darkroom and trollparty has too big fonts
at least on the mac, not that big on Windows it seems
one day when I'm feeling brave I'll pick a theme I like that need modifications and make them.
but I still feel like I'm getting to know my way around Tiki first
I still keep finding new features or things that I didn't know about and I've been using it for a couple of months!  Never ceases to amaze me.
i took a quick walkthrough of of the drakroom theme, made fonts a bit smaller and margins smaller ... with that I learnt a lot of how *not* to do it ;-)
btw: caralluna = Hansi_MP/Hansi_MBP :-P
hehe
like woody allen said - you are never alone with schizophrenia 
lol no ;-)
O though that it would be a nice thing to have the same name here as I have on the tw.o sites ;-)
lol
also, caralluna has been my main nick for 10-15 years or so ;-)
guess trollparty would be no good for the iphone then either if the fonts are too big  :P
it' not that bad there
..but I would like them a little smaller
...but phpmenulayers seems not to work in Opera mini :-(
bigger is better so I've been told
<3 Opera :-P
I was resistant to Firefox for a long time but then I just got fed up with IE and other browsers using the IE engine.
if you have a phone it works on it's simply marvellous
The only sensible use of Java I've seen ;-)
(it is in Java, right) ;-)
my phone can barely display pictures... never mind a browser
ah
in fact, I'm lucky it even has any colour but it works quite nicely to make phone calls.
I assume Java yes... kinda be hard to write a browser in Javascript  :)
a lot of people are using phones to make calls ... what's with that? ;-)
what next? people using feet to walk to places!  What is the world coming to!
hi All
hey
I know I'm going to feel dumb once I figure it out, but I'm wanting to have a series of wiki pages you can drill down through. So on the menu it has "Maryland" that they can click and get a list of cities, or if ones not listed they can create one, then drill-down as far as they want. That seems so easy but I'm missing the checkmark or something! :)
goramba: check out structures
where would I find that?
goramba: wiki pages can be put in sequence sort of like what you describe.  When you do this, it's known as a structure.
look under the wiki options
wiki menu
is it possible to have a summary in the blog rss feed, instead of the whole blogpost? ...page... doesn't seem to work
I get a weird problem with the RSS feeds
When I try to write a descriptoion for the Formu feeds, that description just disappears
also, the name I have set for calendars feed seems to be ignored
any ideas?
caralluna: what version are you using?
It says 2.0 RC2, but I thought we still were on RC1 ;-) Anyway, 2.0 SVN branch
I'm losing it. What "wiki menu" do people keep referring to that contains the structures?? I click on Wiki under the standard menu and just get the home page of it, nothing else. In the Admin section the only thing abuot it is something to do with viewing pages as structures...what the huh
goramba, click the folder image of the Wiki item to expand it
I'm...a damn...idiot. wow. NOT used to having to click specifically on the folder. Thank you! hah..wooh
goramba: well, it's usability issue, not your fault ;)
do you know of a theme or something that makes it more of clear a tree style? maybe fixes that a little.
maybe planetfall puts it clearer
i don't think so, maybe planetfall, yup
Some themes have plus signs instead of folder icons.
...or one of those with +/-
yeah ;-)
dont remember any names though
goramba: are you a tw.o editor?  Say no if you don't know what that means.
LOL
mmm. no
goramba: OK.  I'll try to add a table of theme characteristics to the theme documentation.  It won't help you right now, but will help others later.
good idea :-)
Oh yeah that would be awesome. 
including the color base (dark/light) would be nice in such a table?
Yeah.  I just waded through the default themes, trying to pick something suitable.  Guess I'll get to do it some more in the coming weeks.
#tikiwiki: now with more Carallunas than ever!
lol yeah, sorry about that ;-)
caralluna=Hansi_MP/Hansi_MBP :-)
probably makes sense having the same nick here as I do on the tw.o sites
oooooh, one of those schizophrenic guys... ;)
No problem.  I'm too far down the user list for most to notice I'm in twice also.  Left my home machine in.
caralluna: You're a Member of Parliament?
in addition I'm testing out other IRC clients, so if I forget loggin out it could be pretty crowded of me ;-)
uhm ... no, what makes you say that? :-)
"MP"
lol lo ;-) just designates which machine I'm loggend in on ... MP=MacPro, MBP=MacBook Pro
I get worse when I have the N800 on my hip in IRC, and it decides to hop between various Wifi and phone links as I move around.
lol
IP=iPhone ;)
bye
Darkbee darkens our neighborhood with his departure.
lol yeah ;-)
lol
I saw that! :P
HEY! Where'd the lights go? :-P
Aybody have an idea about my RSS problem I posted earlier?
though I might have posted it as Hansi_MP :-P
A feed wasn't appearing, as well as a calendar with a specific name?
Do you have categories on any of those materials?  (I've been reading about the new category permissions...)
yeah, sorry i was off, what version do you use? 
the feed appears OK, but the description I enter in the admin just disappears
2.0RC2 it says   menaning RC1 SVN
Any special characters in the description such as quote or apostrophe?
The calendar ignores what I type in in the title (but the title I type in remains in the title field in admin)
By "feed" do you mean outgoing feed (a URL in your site) or an RSS-fed module showing stuff from another source?
nop, only a dot and normal letters
outgoing feed yes
I haven't set up an outgoing feed yet, and I'm on 1.9.11.  Anyone in the peanut gallery...?
peanut gallery?
The people sitting in those bleachers, off-camera.
;-)
caralluna: i can confirm your problem.
Try taking out the dot and using, oh.. a six-character name, for testing.  Just in case that matters.
thanks, that's a start ;-)
it looks like title_rss_calendars is not set in tiki-calendars_rss
mstef: Ah, so there's no code to display the title?  That would explain the symptom.
no the code is there, but there is no value to display.
though the title i keyed in on the blogs feed and wiki feed works fine, title and all
whoops
I found the bug on calendar rss - 2 secs
Oh, so the title is not being retrieved, so the code displays the nothing which it knows?
English tends to get contorted when talking about nothings.
exactly
:)
hmmm... blogs and wiki feeds are the only ones with data ... could that be something
the other ones are enabled and active, but have no data yet
caralluna: Sounds like they found a bug, which will probably be fixed in short order.
good :-)
thre are a messing confusuion in the rss betwwen rss_calendar and rss_calendarS
is that also the case regarding the forums feed?
though it's not the same kind of problem there, so I guess not
I think they're not responding because their eyes are busy in editor screens, as mine are with a different problem.
Yeah, guess so ;-)
dammit - sourceforge is dead again
caralluna: If you have to leave.. well, you're on 2.0 so you expected to have to fetch new versions.  Test for a fix in several days before filing a formal bug report.
I'm updating all the time ;-)
...and I usually stay logged on, so I can read any fixes that comes up :-)
 I noticed when I added a page that the structure didn't change. It says (cached) at the top and I'm wondering if that's why....or is it?
can somebody else do a svn update . I have svn: PROPFIND of '/svnroot/tikiwiki/trunk': Could not read status line: Connection reset by peer (https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net)
goramba: Yes, you're probably seeing a cached (old) version.  There's a refresh method someplace.
hmm
awful annoying :)
You can disable the caching I think
though I don't remember exactly where at the moment
http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Cache - "RFE - It would be very nice if there was a way of purging the cache via the tiki interface."
I can not commit - but the fix is $feed="calendar"; in tiki-calendars_rss.php
and what is the other feed that is not working?
Forums - when I input a title for the feed in the RSS admin, the titleI inout just disappears when I press apply
goramba: I found mention of adding at the end of the url: &refresh=1
and there are others that doesn't retain the title ... It seems OK in the admin, but when I subscribe to the feeds it hasn't got the title I gave it
SEWilco awesome that worked. Any idea how to keep cache off? When people make modifications it's kind of strange that they don't show up automatically. Might confuse people into doing it over and over.
I think default chache time is 5 minutes or so?
I managed to create two pages that showed up in the structure twice under the same name because of it.
Ahh found it
Admin-Wiki-"Cache wiki pages(global) - set to 0 (no cache)
I made a file galley but I can't edit the name of I can't replace it
can anyone confirm this issue?
I didn't put it in the buglist yet, because i first want to have it confirmed
goramba: There are cache options someplace in admin options.
koko: The name of the file gallery is "I can't replace it"?
of = or
sorry, a dutch word slipped through
koko: What name did you use?  Any special characters?
no, the name was: avondactiviteit (not even a capital)
I also can't get it deleted
koko: Which TW version?  Is the file gallery stored in database or in a directory?  (I don't remember if that is even a configuration option)
1.9
and stored in DB
SEWilco2: Yeah, you can configure it, at least in 2.0
I don't have any suggestions.  Anyone else?
also the Javescript options (when you click on the tool-icon) don't work
When I get those kind of problems I go directly into the database usually, but that is probably not the recommended thing to do
the page reloads, but it seems to do nothing
I also got into DB
but I prefer TikiWiki
be very careful when you go the DB way, I have screwed up many times ;-)
yea me too
hhmm ... best to file a bug?
koko - if you have time
just hang out a while
I have time
there have been discussions
So far I've only had to go in the DB when I made the admin pages stop displaying.  I configured one thing the wrong way and the PHP blew up before emitting HTML.
about that issue
ah?
well - file gallery in general
ok
has there anything been decided allready?
what do you mean?
in the discussions
nope
the file galery just comes up
bugs and all
so some of the dev people may have encountered it
lemme know what you did and I will try to verify
or  you can try to verify it on http://www.opensourcecms.com/cms/tiki/admin.html
but I noticed some one has seriously messed with the settings there :)
give it
I made a file gallery and saved it (so it was created), netxt I selected the file gallery I wanted to move and I hit the edit icon (under the list)
give it max two hours, and the messed settings will disappear (opensourcecms.com) ;-)
opensourceCMS got reset :-D
:-) They do every two hours :-)
omg I spent many hours there :-)
ok - I can edit the name of a gallery
are you trying to move an individual file?
hhmm ... I can also there
ok
what version are you using koko?
where you have the problem
I'm checking right now
have you checked the admin configurations for  file galleries
it may be something with the file stored in the database vs. file stored in folder
	1.10.0b1
koko: were you doing this as an admin or a user?  Maybe user doesn't  have a gallery permission in his group?
admin
I've got that on my test server, so I can test it ...
zorp, what version did you test it on?
I thought koko said 1.9 before so I checked it on 1.9
but 1.10 has had issues with the galeries
I also thought I used 1.9
and if it works on 2.0 then there really is no point in reporting it...
ok
no, that's a fact
I'll try to update my wiki
make sure you backup your db!
:)
:)
...an filedir :-)
ok, I'll follow the instructions on updating
koko
hang on
lemme try it on my 1.10
ok
then we can see if it is your settings
or a bug
Is there anyone here using the contact manager? I'm writing a text about TikiWiki and CRM, but I'd like to check my opnion with some other TW'ers
ok - I enabled the file galeries, created one, renamed it and deleted it without problems
hhmm ... I'll have to check my settings
Will come back to that again later
i would check
if in your general settings
if you store to the database
or in a seperate folder
and if you store to a folder if that folder is set up properly
I can't even find the rename option
and if the feature php-layers dynamic menu is enabled
ok
hi
hey
i moved my wiki to a different server and now i get an error
good luck koko :-)
hi
 PHP Warning:  session_start() [<a href='function.session-start'>function.session-start</a>]: open(/var/lib/php/session/sess_q35ff5okth6rqlj269b6akag75, O_RDWR) failed: Permission denied (13)
i can't log in
eek
I gotta go to bed ... see you 2morrow folks! Thanks for great help tonight! :-)
c'ya caralluna
see you tomorrow
a13x didn't you have login problems yesterday too?
not yesterday
i didn't solve it
oh
the problem is session files are owned by apache
well, then it's beyond me :(
i am using suphp
-rw------- 1 apache apache  16K Jul 11 16:32 sess_127ha1f3ql1b562hbflvj4iodp98uu5u
drwxrwx--- 2 root   apache 4.0K Jul 17 14:06 .
but wiki is executing as another user
hi luis
finally home
sweet sweet home :)
looking forward to sleeping in my bed, but that will have to wait until after the party tonight
always doing parties these tikidevs ;-)
is marc back too?
lphuberdeau: when you settle down and relax check out the pics from TikiFest ;)
yeah, marc also is
sure will
was a great time
yeah, it was ! :)
awesome time - just sorting my pics also and thinking of how great it was! :)
wb home marclaporte !
thanks!
was a long trip
you should sleep like for 48 hours or so, man ;)
... next week will be good again, I guess! :)
I'm doing pretty good right now... cooking already... after the last trip I spent 2 days not eating or doing anything because I was too lazy
hehe, cool, seems like you're getting used to it... ;)