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Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|sleeping chibaguy: 2008 Packt Open Source Content Management System Award nominations can be submitted now - http://www.packtpub.com/award ***: djst has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: Well, I nominated Tiki (Packt cms awards).
...and now am sitting back waiting for my ipod nano.... ;-) ***: franck has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: last.fm got a makeover
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Paragtim has joined #tikiwiki Paragtim: Newbie Alert - Hi guys. Is this the place that will solve all my problems? chibaguy: Paragtim, this is the slow part of the day in this channel, so maybe some of your problems won't be solved. Paragtim: Hi Chibaguy, Nice to hear from you. Money, Sex and Tikiwiki in that order - is that ok? chibaguy: :-) Paragtim: Cos its the slow part,I'll leave the money and sex bit for now. On the Tikiwiki front how are you with categories and forums? -: chibaguy starting to think sex and money questions aren't so bad after all.... chibaguy: Well, I haven't messed much with categories for a while. What do you need to do? Paragtim: :-d This is going to take longer to explain than fix I think. In categories the structure can be nested and new categories added as required. I want to duplicate the categoriy structure in the Forums and have new forums slotted into the forum tree, either by hand of automatically. Can this be done? chibaguy: Yes, categories can be added pretty flexibly. As for the forums, I'm not sure how the display order is done, other than according to the query in the url.
btw, what Tiki version?
In 1.9.*, it looks like the forums are listed alphabetically, within each section.
But they could be reordered with a different url, but maybe not conforming to the category order.
(well, if the forum order could match the category order with some forum column ordering, that'd be a nice coincidense....) ***: Sug4r has quit IRC (Nick collision from services.)
Sug4r` has joined #tikiwiki chibaguy: The forums appear to be listed alphabetically. This is by forum name by default, but using a url you can do the ordering according to other columns, either ascending or descending. If there are forum sections, the ordering is done separately inside each section. That seems to be about the limit on forum listing order. Paragtim: Version 1.10.0b1. In categories I have set up a nested level system and it works well. The problem at the moment is duplicating that structure, which is fluid and will change as new products are added into the forum listing. I can seem to find a way to nest the forums so I looking for suggestions chibaguy: The forum listing is fairly limited, as I described, (as far as I know). I'm not sure how to do a tiki-forums.php that would list forums in some other way.
Maybe it would work to make a wiki page that lists the forums, and use that instead of the standard list-forums page.
(but getting the forum post info, etc., into that would be beyond me)
if just the forum names and descriptions are enough, without the dynamic post info etc., a wiki page would work.)
Actually, probably a tiki-forums.php could be hardcoded to list the forums how you want, but I imagine it'd have to have each forum query written, rather than using a loop to get them all. luciash_: last.fm new design sucks, i liked the previous one much more :-/ chibaguy: hi luciash_ luciash_: my new nickname sucks too, lets fix it first ;) chibaguy: Yeah, I think I liked the old one better too. ***: luciash_ is now known as luciash luciash: better :)
hey chiba ! :) Paragtim: Sorry for the pause. I was with you up to tiki-forums.php, so stupid question time. Are you saying that tiki-forums.php controls the screen layout of the forums and that this can be edited to change what is shown? chibaguy: Well, the page's logic is to get the forums in alphabetical order, going through a loop to get each one. You can use different urls (watch in the address bar as you reorder the columns) to vary the order, but it's limited to asc/desc for each column.
To get the forums in a nonalphabetical order, I guess the page would have to have specific database queries hardcoded or something. Beyond me. Paragtim: Food for thought - I'm going to have a quick read through the file and see if it makes any sense to me !! chibaguy: Maybe start with tiki-forums.tpl. Paragtim: Thats was my thought - Now about the Money and Sex !!!! chibaguy: Hmm, well, ..... luciash: chibaguy: seems lot of ppl are missing the older design (see the comments) → http://blog.last.fm/2008/07/17/lastfm-the-next-generation chibaguy: Heh, interesting. Anyway,.time for me to catch a subway. Be back later. luciash: happy run, c u later gary chibaguy: ok ***: chibaguy has left
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lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki sylvieg: what means in css .rbox-title[name="tip"] (I am on darkroom) ...
the html is <div class="rbox-title"> only
(tips in darkroom are white on pale gray bg - not easy to read) lphuberdeau: might have a different kind somewhere else
the bracket syntax is for conditions on attributes, but afaik, IE does not support it sylvieg: but name is not an attirbute....
wondering how to fix taht an attribute name in {remarksbox} ? fix in darkroom.css? lphuberdeau: can't say gillesmm: hi sylvieg: chibaguy: around?
hello gillesmm gillesmm: do you have news from tikifest ? lphuberdeau: yeah, it's over ;)
what do you need to know? gillesmm: all was nice ? lphuberdeau: yeah, it was long overdue
we took some decisions about the release process, you probably noticed that one on the mailing list gillesmm: ok lphuberdeau: to keep the story short, we will release a lot more often, on fixed dates
and no new features will be accepted in stable branches
on technical aspects, trunk no longer has to support php 4
it's very likely that adodb will be dropped ***: tomb__ has left "Ex-Chat"
SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki luciash: lphuberdeau: any replacement for adodb ? lphuberdeau: likely PDO
lower level abstraction layer luciash: sylvieg: name was wrong xhtml attribute, you can drop it or replace by .rbox-title.tip and div class="rbox-title tip"
PDO ? lphuberdeau: php.net/pdo luciash: ah, never hear of it
gillesmm: http://picasaweb.google.com/mindbro/TikiFestStrasbourg SEWilco2: "PHP Data Objects" luciash: what about that pear MB:something ? SEWilco2: PDO requires PHP 5. Is PHP 5 already a requirement for TW? luciash: not now, maybe will be in trunk (HEAD aka upcoming after 2.0, likely 3.0)
sylvieg: got it ? sylvieg: thx luciash luciash: np lphuberdeau: TW 3.0 won't support php4 luciash: sylvieg: if u get in troble i can fix it
lphuberdeau won'ŧ support php4 :-p sylvieg: works fine - just committed it lphuberdeau: PHP 5 is at ~40% market share right now, the PHP group drops support for PHP4 in 3 weeks luciash: sylvieg: thx sylvieg: wondering if I have to do the same for all the css that use this
.. will do
like this we can advance on putting {remarksbox} luciash: sylvieg: the answer is most probably yes or put it in transitions with !important caralluna_|away: Hi all :-) ***: caralluna_|away is now known as caralluna koko: hi! ***: herve__ has joined #tikiwiki herve__: hello, is there a feature to dump a tiki in 1.9.10 without access to the machine ? lphuberdeau: phpMyAdmin can dump the database for you
you need at least FTP to get files stored on the drive herve__: yes but there is not a feature in tikiwiki ?
I only have access to the tiki lphuberdeau: don't know of any of them
might want to contact your sysadmin goramba: When adding multiple pictures to an edit, is there an easy way around having to preview it before adding another pic? Like trying to add 3 pics to one page. SEWilco2: goramba: You're talking about uploading to an Image Gallery? Because the question doesn't make sense for a Wiki page, where images are added through WikSyntax text. chibaguy: I just saw the rbox title talk. I have to change that in a bunch of themes. goramba: When editing a page in the wiki you have an option near the bottom to upload a picture. chibaguy: (or any that other people don't get to first) SEWilco2: goramba: I forgot about that. Upload the images to an Image Gallery, where you can upload several at once. Then you can add the images to the Wiki page. goramba: Hmm..that slows the flow quite a bit and requires a bit of note keeping. I liked that when you selected to upload a picture it automatically added the necessary line of code to the current edit. Makes it a quick procedure...if only you could do that multiple times.
maybe feature request then? :) koko: good idea! chibaguy: goramba, what tiki version are you using? goramba: Ahh not exactly sure..the latest version? Just installed it yesterday SEWilco2: goramba: Yeah, even within the Gallery interface it's awkward to find the file ID incantation; I'd prefer a simple image name format. goramba: I'm guessing it wouldn't take much of a code-hack to make it refresh the page when someone adds a picture, that would accomplish it I guess. chibaguy: Just asking because in 2.0 I couldn't get image uploading on the wiki edit page to work. goramba: chibaguy - is there a quick way for me to check? I don't see a version number on any of hte pages. koko: in admin - general I think
(or features) chibaguy: tiki-admin.php?page=general
in 2.0 the procedure is changed, apparently. goramba: 1.9.11 chibaguy: Ah, that should be ok.
(I mean at least it works.)
(Time to walk dog) ***: chibaguy is now known as chiba_walking SEWilco2: Hmm. I can't edit dev.tw.o. The comment "// DO NOT CODE LIKE THIS" should be added to "if ($tiki_p_whatever)" to stop cut-and-pasters. http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hello+World#To_introduce_a_new_permission luciash: SEWilco2: sorry, i don't understand ***: djst has joined #tikiwiki SEWilco2: luciash: The text ahead of that code weakly reminds that it is not enough to test if a value exists; one must test for 'y' or 'n', but it's easy to miss that warning.
A strong reminder should be included in that code fragment to make clear that this is an example of what not to do. Preceding text also could use some rephrasing. luciash: ah, why can't you edit it ? SEWilco2: luciash: user SEWilco doesn't have edit priv on dev.tw.o; I have it on tw.o, but apparently privs aren't interwiki. luciash: weird, i thought every registered on tw.o has edit priv on dev.tw.o ... maybe it changed or the page has special perms... ***: Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|away
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Does anybody get the error "svn: Working copy 'temp/cache' not locked" when trying to "svn update" ?
Or know what it means? lphuberdeau: yeah, but know one knows where it comes from
just rm -Rf temp and it will work sylvieg: and do not forget chmod a+w temp/cache after caralluna: after svn update?
sorry, never mind ;-) SEWilco2: luciash: Hmm. I refreshed and now have edit links. Maybe I was seeing a cached copy. luciash: SEWilco2: np, good it works for you SEWilco2: luciash: oops, I don't have permission to edit. I was seeing a cached version which had edit links in the page, but not at the top of the page.
luciash: Apparently someone edited, and their copy of the page got cached. luciash: huh, wow :-p SEWilco2: A cache bug. Yummy. luciash: i see
the new edit by section SEWilco2: I assume the cache thinks an edit by section version is the same as a read-only version of a page. luciash: the edit icons are generated as part of the wiki page content, which is cached, that's the problem (same as with wikiplugin articles, etc.) ***: djst has quit IRC () kerrnel: Ok, let's say I have 1.10 that I checked out with SVN a month ago. Now I want to convert that to 2.0 branch. How would I do that, since it complains I already have something checked out in that directory?
The website tells me how to check each out individually, but not if I want to convert/upgrade goramba: anyone good as js?
er at lphuberdeau: depends on what you need
kerrnell: svn switch kerrnel: Interesting svn: Working copy 'lib/smarty/demo' not locked. Is it safe to delete that dir? goramba: i'm trying to edit the tiki-editpage.tpl to automatically submit a preview when you select to upload a picture. I'm in the right area but it has multiple submit buttons for a single form and I'm not sure how to "press" only the preview submit button, no others. ***: snarlydwarf has joined #tikiwiki
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ohertel has joined #tikiwiki ohertel: Hello! :) caralluna: Hi ;-) ***: herve__ has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) goramba: ok, so I was talking earlier about being able to upload multiple pictures without having to press preview to upload the image. So far I have only managed to automatically "press" preview, a band-aid but it works. in tiki-editpage.pl look for: <input name="picfile1" type="file" onchange="javascript:insertImg('editwiki','picfile1','hasAlreadyInserted');"> replace with: <input name="picfile1" type="file" onchange="javascript:insertImg('editwiki','picfile1','has SEWilco2: goramba: whatever you were saying was truncated in middle of your "replace with" phrase. IRC is for short messages.
(At least that's where my client truncated it. Don't know how much others saw.) goramba: been using irc for ooooohhh, 13-14yrs
:)
http://rafb.net/p/sLAgOd66.html ***: lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki goramba: It would be nice to have a loader pop up but that's a start ***: caralluna__ has joined #tikiwiki
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Gnea has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) kerrnel: When converting from 1.10 csv to 2.0 svn, is there a way for csv to clean up the CSV files from the tree, so that I can then run an svn checkout? goramba: anyone dealt with the "Assertion failed" error when submitting a page? lphuberdeau: kerrnel, if you have nothing custom on 1.10 CVS, it's probably easier to dump the code and make a new check-out ***: kerrnel has quit IRC ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)")
Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie lphuberdeau: who is up for some tarball testing? ***: Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|away lphuberdeau: Pre-RC2 tarballs... need 3 installs to package the real thing caralluna: what help do you need? :-) lphuberdeau: uploading in progress : http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/tikirel/
bz2 up caralluna: ...so I download and install it? lphuberdeau: basically a smoke test to make sure there are no obvious problems
gz up caralluna: sure :-)
any preference for which to use?
or is that irrelevant? lphuberdeau: not really
just write which one you used caralluna: I'll be waiting for the zip ;-) lphuberdeau: zip up ***: zorp has joined #tikiwiki zorp: hi all caralluna: Hi :-) zorp: hey caralluna - you got some clean install of v2.rc1 that you can experiment with? ***: goramba has quit IRC () caralluna: not original rc1, running svn 2.0 branch on both my 2.0 installs zorp: ok - could you test something in the blogs for me? caralluna: in a few minutes ;-) zorp: k ***: Caarrie has joined #tikiwiki
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Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|away caralluna: zorp: what were you thinking about? -: caralluna is unzipping zorp: if you have the blogs feature activated and users can create blogs ***: SEWilco2 has quit IRC ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]") caralluna: yeah, but that is on 2.0 svn zorp: I've come across this bug where all users can post to all other users' blogs caralluna: bah ... sounds bad zorp: well - the bug has been transported into 2.rc1 from 1.10b so I think it should be still there
I'd need someone to verify for me caralluna: can't we just leave the bugs behind? :-P zorp: I think it could be my sys settings...
good idea :) lphuberdeau: unless someone works on blogs, bugs won't get fixed zorp: :( lphuberdeau: sad, but true caralluna: zorp: ...but I have no clean rc1 install ... but I can test on my svns zorp: from my digging around the problem is in tikilib
caralluna - svn will be great caralluna: ok
so, I let one user create blog and see if another user can post there? zorp: yah, when the other user creates a post
there should be a menu where the user can decide which blog to post to caralluna: yeah zorp: the bug is that all current blogs pop up there
even the ones the user should not have access to caralluna: should a normal user create the blog or is it ok to let admin do it? zorp: anyone can create the blog caralluna: ok zorp: but a regular user sould try to post
(but regular users should have blog creating perms) caralluna: ...and the regular users should not have access to post?
hmmm... I'm not sure I have alloewed that ... hang on ... zorp: well regualr users should only be able to posts to blogs they created
or ones that are made public caralluna: ok -: caralluna is installing ... ***: lq_173 has joined #tikiwiki caralluna: lphuberdeau: Only thing I notice is that two install profiles has been removed ... or has that happened earlier maybe?
lphuberdeau: should I choose a specific profile? lphuberdeau: they were removed in Strasbourg caralluna: ok lphuberdeau: try whatever you want ;) ***: lq_173 has quit IRC (Client Quit)
earrame has joined #tikiwiki caralluna: BasicEnabled it is ;-) luciash: lphuberdeau: are they coming out of the current SVN branch ?
or are they same tarballs as on public.amette.eu ? caralluna: lphuberdeau: 1336 SQL queries, no failures lphuberdeau: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/tikirel/ luciash: are they current SVN ?
so i don't have to download and test immediately
;)
*and can start test immediately caralluna: lphuberdeau: http://rettvest.org/twprerc2/ installed and operating normally as far as I can see :-) luciash: caralluna: too early to say that don't you think ? ;) lphuberdeau: that counts for 1, 2 more to go caralluna: luciash: yeah, probably ;-) earrame: hello, I am having a login issue that I can't figure out: If I try to login to my site without clicking the "remember me" box, it does nothing but blink. Checking the box makes it all work fine. Is there any way to fix this issue? caralluna: normally meaning I have changed admin passord and site comes up as normal. Anything specifi you want me to test? zorp: anyone knows where to find the prefs that regulate the appearance of the list of categories (using the categories module)? ie if it should be displayed as arrows and folders or +/- signs
earrme: you have the login settings in the admin-login page
may be something with your remeber me prefs luciash: lphuberdeau: i had the following issue with 2.0rc1, was that fixed for rc2 ? → http://sh.nu/p/24675 earrame: it only gives two options: on or off. off makes the box go away and then I can't login at all. luciash: lphuberdeau: it happened when installing for mysql classic lphuberdeau: I think so
was a missing conditional drop zorp: earrame - if all your other login settings is as it should be then I'm sorry - can't think of anything lphuberdeau: but feel free to try it out ;) luciash: lphuberdeau: CURRENT_TIMESTAMP is supported in all versions of mysql ? caralluna: zorp: bah sorry, tested on 1.10b ;-) I think I have too many installations ;-) hang on ;-) lphuberdeau: kind of old I think earrame: Zorp: as far as I can tell everything is set correctly, but thank you, perhaps someone else around here will have an answer.
zorp: earrame - which version are you using?
` caralluna: zorp: Blog created by admin, "Allow other user to post in this blog" not checked (if that was what you meant) ...and normal user can post http://tw2.rettvest.org/tiki-view_blog.php?blogId=1 zorp: yup, then it is still there
http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=1782
quick fix
will have to remind some of the hardcore programmer's about it caralluna: yea, thanks
wasn' aware of that one zorp: thanx caralluna! caralluna: anytime :-) zorp: I think the issue is with new DBs
DBs that have been updated throughout the versions do not seem to have the problem
but fresh installs of 1.9.11 have it too caralluna: the "oldest" I have now is 1.9.11 fresh luciash: lphuberdeau: still preparing for the installation :(
i think you'll find more fast ppl to test earlier than i finish it caralluna: last cms-period I think it was 1.9.7 or something lphuberdeau: there is this thing with tarball tests, most people tend to flee when you call for one zorp: lphuberdeau - there's been a call? lphuberdeau: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/tikirel/ zorp: goram - missed that
is it a general testing or something specific? lphuberdeau: smoke test before the real RC2 packages
just make sure it installs basically zorp: ok
how bad do you/we need testers? I can sacrafice my 1.9.11 if its really urgent... ***: sylvieg has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
Paragtim is now known as Paragtim[A] -: Paragtim[A] is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes earrame: zorp: i'm using 1.9.11 -: luciash selected default installation profile and mysql classic caralluna: lphuberdeau: I can test on another server if you want :-) luciash: lphuberdeau: no problem this time, seems it's fixed or mysql 4 specific zorp: earrame - ok in the later versions you have more prefs for the remember me function
but that doesn't help you now... lphuberdeau: I think I fixed it myself luciash: lphuberdeau: great
just the consistency in installer sucks a bit: "Tikiwiki is ready to run" and "Entering TikiWiki"
not bad for rc caralluna: lphuberdeau: though is the other one using sam os, configured by me, pretty much same software lphuberdeau: not worst than before luciash: great somebody added #fff for header background by default, thanks lphuberdeau: I think it was myloth if by commit memory is good luciash: much better than rc1 ;) ***: sylvieg has joined #tikiwiki zorp: has there been a lot of work on the categories module since 1.10b? luciash: lphuberdeau: oh, but it's white only for tikineat :-/ maybe better idea would be to fill the #fff directly by default to the l&f > general layout > Site logo background color
but nevermind, better anyway earrame: zorp:actually, I just did an upgrade a few days ago. now the problem is that I just set the login box module to be only available to registered users and lost it on the main page. do you know how to get it back through the database? zorp: well you can always access the login through yourpage.com/tiki-login_scr.php
then you should be able to set it in the admin interface lphuberdeau: luci: not really my decision to make earrame: oh yea, sorry I forgot. I Knew that.
:) zorp: :) lphuberdeau: certainly not the kind of detail that will fit in RC2 thought ;) sylvieg: zorp: I just fixed one perm checking about blog posting zorp: oooooh cool
sylvie: would it be a fix to http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=1782
may I ask what the problem was? sylvieg: I never usually post from the blog post menu - only from the list blog - so I never saw it....
the perm checking was not looking at the public field zorp: ok luciash: lphuberdeau: works very well so far with default profile lphuberdeau: good, in theory, only one is missing luciash: lphuberdeau: oops ! → tiki-calendar_edit_item.php earrame: OK, I'm back to where I was. Is there any one else here who might know why my remember me feature is acting buggy? luciash: lphuberdeau: as admin i get "Permission denied you can not view this page" sylvieg: zorp: try this one http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=E1KJxvu-0008AJ-TE%4074yxhf1.ch3.sourceforge.com&forum_name=tikiwiki-cvs luciash: lphuberdeau: i've just enabled all the *main* features and tried to add an event in calendar sylvieg: and zorp - you had the fix in dev.tw lphuberdeau: any idea what this could be caused by? sylvieg: ... there is still a fix to do neverless luciash: lphuberdeau: imho bad conditional check for perms in tpl
if admin it should be always accessible lphuberdeau: can you work around it by adding a perm? zorp: sylvie - sorry I missed the fix in dev.tw :(
but it sure is a lot more complicated than the one I had coughed up :) earrame: I am on version 1.9.11 and the dropdown menu for the remember me feature only has two options: 'disabled' and 'users and admins'. luciash: lphuberdeau: actually, not in tpl, php
lphuberdeau: there 's else at line 265 which appears every time when you go to the page with no request variable lphuberdeau: very old problem
from the log luciash: either there should be '?calendarId=' in the Add Event link or change the code in php lphuberdeau: kind of reduces the priority for me... fix would go in trunk ***: earrame has quit IRC ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112801]") luciash: well, when i create new calendar then the link works well
new forum doesn't appear in changes since module
new tracker the same
otherwise no problems/show stoppers found lphuberdeau: thanks luci caralluna: well, then it's nighty for me ... see you :-) zorp: c ya ***: zorp has left
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I was just about to email you
are your latest commits fixing bugs? ***: ohertel has joined #tikiwiki ohertel: hello :) mstef: lphuberdeau: yes, i believe they are
lphuberdeau: i tried to keep them small. lphuberdeau: just weird to see files added in RC mode mstef: lphuberdeau: i've already switched over to trunk, i just thought these small fixes would be nice to have in this version.
lphuberdeau: i hope this is not a problem, is it? lphuberdeau: was it really broken?
I pushed out RC2 just before you made your commits ***: Paragtim[A] has quit IRC ("Say What?")
franck has joined #tikiwiki mstef: lphuberdeau: would be nice to have, but no big problem if not, some corrections only
lphuberdeau: should i recommit them to trunk, or will this be automatically handled as well? lphuberdeau: merging will do itself in time... in fact, I merged the stuff before your commits as well mstef: lphuberdeau: bye, it's getting late lphuberdeau: g'night ***: mstef has left