Any ideas? Should the midtbl be 100% or something more like 70 or 80%? Thanks. nyloth: RC4 exists? Will try it. Been busy setting up for big file upload with Search indexing. s/links/lines/ http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/tikirel/ (prereleases) SEWilco2: the tarballs are in test and if ok they will be uploaded to sourceforge lphuberdeau: I think you can also launch a merge to trunk nyloth: 'svn update' under way. Thanks. will do after RC4 is fully packaged SEWilco2: of branches/2.0 or trunk ? lphuberdeau: ok :) sewilico2, we need people to test tarballs ;) nyloth: SVN 2.0 Stable. Interesting bunch of file updates. ok so hard to get 3 tests lphuberdeau: probably not the best hour of the day... I'm trying to figure out how the 2.0 SEFURL code works (I think I have to learn about Smarty modifiers); should I create SEFURL fixes for 2.0 Stable or trunk? tomb: around ? SEWilco2: for trunk only, now SEWilco2: In stable, only bugfixes, major critical bugs, and translations s/bugfixes/secutiry fixes/ I could argue SEFURL performs translations. :-) SEWilco2: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Where+to+commit SEWilco2: lol yes, but ... no :) nyloth: there is no good time of the day lphuberdeau: maybe, but it seems there is quite nobody here right now :) next time I hear discussions, I'll announce tarball tests, then you will hear the silence ;) lol :) I've got a new clean default install of 13973 if you need me to test anything on it. I can svn switch it to something else if you like. Deepak: So, are your tests of TikiWiki 2.0 RC4 tarballs ok ? :) Petjal2: well, in fact we just need to test tarballs, right now, to send them to sourceforge if ok. OK. Let me know how this noob can help. http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/tikirel/ (preRC4 tarballs to test) I want to stress test my TW server...and maybe some scripts would help test TW versions. Any suggestions for HTTP scripted load tools? ok.. so I tested the tarball, nyloth did as well, and we had tests of svn at same version and no files are corrupt will have to call this a go can't wait forever fwiw, sha1 and ripemd160 of the 2.0.preRC4 tarballs here: http://sh.nu/p/24748 ...and a signed listing here http://sh.nu/p/24749 polom Hi - is there any way to assign view / edit permissions for a group to an entire category? I am really stumped trying to find out how Have already looked here - http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Category+Admin&bl=y harold: I think that is described in a 2.0 document... hold on. harold: part is in here... the "edit content in categories" refers to being able to edit articles which are in a group-permitted category. http://tikiwiki.org/ReleaseNotes20&bl=n I've got another tab someplace with the details... Thanks SEWilco2 - so, if I understand you correctly, I cannot assign groupwide edit permissions to a category in 1.9.1 (which I am currently running) harold: Part of the missing piece is here: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=groups harold: Mostly correct. One of the 2.0 documents mentions 1.9.11 has the 2.0 capability partially implemented under a different permission name. harold: There is no 1.9.11 tool for activating the new permission; I have not tested it, only looked at its code. harold: Thus, because I also need the new permission, I'm switching to 2.0 if possible. ok - so outside of upgrading to 2.0 there's no easy way to assign the edit content in a category to a group within 1.9,1? Can someone tell me the trick for getting comments on to the page for groups other than admin. I'm pretty sure I 've ticked all the boxes. Its works for admin but nothing else !! harold: without the new permission, anyone with edit permission is able to edit anything which they can view. The new permission allows only editing of things which are in a category which has the edit permission attached to it. Paragtim: Maybe there is a permission related to comments? Look under Admin>Groups at the permission for the group which can't use Comments. Try the "find" tool for "comment". harold: Before 2.0 there was only a global edit permission. The new 2.0 permission allows edit permission to be controlled through categorization. If I understand it correctly. Found 7 and they are all selected - still nothing in the registered group but working fine in the admin group Paragtim: Clear your cache in Admin>Sys Admin? Sys Admin? Found it https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=64258&package_id=266122&release_id=616722 Not worked - Rebooted as well - still the same as before Paragtim: I'm puzzled then. Which TW version? 1.9.11? 1.10 1.10 does not exist anymore 1.10.0b1 upgrade to 2.0RC4 re-labeled the version what damage will it do to my system - permissions, features etc? Paragtim: 1. It can't hurt to do a database backup just in case. 2. You can put 2.0RC4 in a directory of its own and point it at the same database (or a copy). Just did a release check and it came back as 1.10.0b1 - !!! but 2.0 is really 1.10 with more fixes download is available from sourceforge where can I get it? Paragtim: https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=64258&package_id=266122&release_id=616722 Is a MIME type converter needed for plain text files which are uploaded to a File Directory, in order to enable text search of plain text files? "cat %1"? i! hi! I'm confusing about the 2.0 release status. The release notes page (http://tikiwiki.org/ReleaseNotes20) sez that it "was released in July 2008" RC was That doesn't seem to jive with the Topic msg in this channel, or the news on the home page. RC4 was released earlier today is that considered stable? MacLeod: hi, this probably means "technical release" or "creation of 2.0" ... but as lphuberdeau says, we are in RC stage and the stable release will probably be out in something like one or two weeks MacLeod: quite stable, yes, you can test it :) I aim for next week, but that's all right ah, OK thanks for the clarification lphuberdeau: ok unless we get something critical, I don't expect much more movement on that branch, except maybe translations how's WYSIWYG working? incidentally, we're planning to do our corporate-wide launch of our 1.9.11 Tiki by the end of this week might be good to consider 2.0 then it's been in a sort of beta mode for months now, and the last few prereqs are being wrapped up i don't think our contractors could do the upgrade by the end of the week do you have custom code? no, just template mods we'll announce with 1.9.11, and have them upgrade as they can get to it MacLeod: I'm in the middle of planning for our upgrade from 1.9.11 to 2.0. It's actually not bad. A couple of minor items with the template we've been running, and some tracker issues, but nothing major The upgrade itself was pretty simple. I started Monday this week and am now working on tweaking our existing tracker database to be compatible with 2.0 (we made some changes in 1.9.11 that exist differnetly in 2.0) I'd recommend upgrading. Especially so close to the 2.0 launch. Answering my own question: Looks like uploaded text files are not indexed unless text/plain has a handler such as "cat %1", based upon filegallib.php Hi, I have a category permission bug to report - who is the brave soul to whom I can assign it :) ? hi all having a problem getting the user name to be added to a tracker during registration. I have followed the instructions on doc.tw.o. All my additional fields get stored just missing the vital user name. Tanks @test "remember me" hates me. :( I remember you - long time not seen, rlpowell - nice to have you here! :) Hi. heya ho :) I only come here when I'm having problems, I'm afraid. :) Mostly Tiki is nice to me and Just Works (tm). hmm, ok, that makes you a little bit awkward... ;P well, that's good to hear - so that makes up for it! :D I do contribute back any fixes I write though, so I'm not a completely bad person. :D ok, then you're really totally and completely excused! ;) Right now I've got a multitiki where the "remember me" feature isn't working at all. If I wait for an hour or so and hit reload, I'm logged out. Unfortunately, I don't understand web logins at all, so it's not something I can easily debug myself. hmmm... I never really worked with remember me (at least not to a level that I would know after which time it logs me out).... .... I just know that it somehow works for me (even over the browser closing/opening session break)... ... but how it really is done - no idea either, I'm afraid! But I think that playing with remember me/cookie path and so on is the only way to go... ... imho, basically it works nicely! But apart from that you gotta wait for others who have more knowledge. Yeah, see, I don't even know what "cookie path" means really. I've never understood cookies. oh, ok :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_cookie ;) basically Tiki saves the login in a cookie - you can clearly see that, when you clear your browser cookies, you are logged out so the cookie path is something to distinguish different cookies afaik making sure that the cookie-paths are different makes sure that you distinguish your MultiTiki-instances... ... but why you are logged out that quickly... hmmm...!??!! can anyone help a desperate man fix his user registration tracker? MatWho_: I can't, but I'll let you know that you are not alone - I am having very similar tracker problems harold: what are the symptoms? MatWho_ and harold : I used it once, but lots changed - lately there was somewhere posted a link to a tw.o site where it was described - did you search those sites? and apart from that - yeah, you two guys found each other - probably your exchange will help both of you :) ( and then let others know please ) amette: yes - I have created trackers and assigned them to the "Registered" group, used the user selector - No dice (ie, the fields do not show up as part of the registration process) harold: there is a "none" option for assigning bugs. harold: I remember it as being shown in your "User Preferences" as something like "View personal tracker information".... ... but yes - I heard something about there being a possibility to show those fields at registration time, true! But I think that was after my usage of it. Search devel-list on sourceforge.net for that, I think...!?!? amette: so in the end were you able to add those fields to the registration form? no I found the thing from devel-list: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=User+tracker amette - Yep, that is what I went through as well ok, the post on devel-list said: "Kind-of-found-the-way through irc yesterday, and already briefly described on doc.tw.o." so the rest must be experimenting as long as someone finally posts the solution to that doc.tw.o page ( or reading the code ) Any Smarty people on? here's a list of stuff done to tw.o in that regard (there it works partially) and a list of known bugs in that regard, too: http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestStrasbourg#Distant_participation_agenda kerrnel22: basic or specific smarty question? and btw just "ask, don't ask to ask" ;) amette: I have been through the stuff on doc.tw.o but it still does not work. no point asking if there's no Smarty smarties around. :) There are a number of string manipulator functions, but was wondering if they had an equivalent to substr() ? well, it has a point if they are in lib/smarty_tiki - otherwise there is more use of asking in #smarty - and overall it is always more use in asking, than asking to ask ;) even a smarty smartician can't know if he can answer your question as long as he doesn't know the question - but if you ask the question, it could be that some not so smart smartician reads it and knows the answer by accident - you know? ;) and also btw - we are trying to establish again a culture of reading back IRC-logs as we are going to establish a new nicely searchable web-IRC-logging... ... yes, that will take some time for people to learn to and get used to it - but it will be essential to be brave enough to throw ones questions just in and on the other hand be disciplined enough to keep discussions on focus... ... focus being "the problem" not "asking for the problem". ( yeah, I know that I'm verbose on IRC, if I'm on IRC - but well, fun has to be - but as topic says "asking to ask" is more unnecessary than fun ;)) ) sleep well, SEWilco2 :) Normally I just ask, but I've been told in the past with smarty questions to go to #smarty. Unfortunately I am limited to using the Linux-Quebec web portal to #tiki which doesnt' allow access to #smarty or anything. I'd gladly search the IRC logs if I knew of a place where the log was working. rc4 is out? I thought rc2 was just released a week or two ago? I haven't seen r3 yet hmm, ok, yeah, that's unfortunate... so four options here: 1. ask and don't ask to ask, 2. ask here with a clean conscience, if it is in lib/smarty_tiki, 3. ask here, if it is smarty in general (not so bad actually), 4. ask in #smarty (no option for you) first option being highly preferred ;) yup, it was just today released - no big announcement yet, I just noticed and put it here "Release early, release often" ;) what happened to r3? I think it was pretty short-lived... ;) apparently lol *g* amette: Hi I have tried many things to get the user registration tracker working. It must be a bug, whats the best way to get it reported? MatWho_: basically the best solution is to report it on http://dev.tikiwiki.org .... ... in this special case though - I'd recommend getting in touch with developers interested in it (as this is a moving target right now, so you might very well throw in own ideas for example, too ) MatWho_: as you could see on the WikiPage I posted above: xavi is interested in this (and he actually even posted the devel-list post with the link to the doc.tw.o page - he wrote it) - so I think that asking him and getting involved in the process would be a good thing to do! :) amette: so that answers my first question, what is the best way to contact xavi? isn't his mail-adress public on tw.o? I can't find a similar function to substr...I guess I'll write one could try edu.tikiwiki.org Generally I find if you send him a PM on tw.o he'll respond within a day or two kerrnel22: uhm... why? I mean: what is so special about kerrnel22_substr() in difference to substr() ? amette: its not there I need it in smartycode not php MatWho_, harold: I had the same user tracker username problem earlier in the week (or was it last week...), and sylvieg fixed something, then I did a svn up, and it works now. MatWho_: then do as kerrnel22 said and contact him by tw.o PM or wait for him in here. kerrnel22: aaah, ok! Petjal2: when did you do the svn and from where? kerrnel22: ok, no idea at all then! Ask smarty-people please about how much sense it makes - they will know for sure about any diffuse implications it brings with it - otherwise: welcome to commit it (to smarty even)! :) I do a lot of svn up's cuz sylvieg is fixing lots of things all the time, so, sorry I can't recall, but it was within the past week, maybe Monday? svn up https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/trunk . ok so I will do the same. Thanks. Good luck. Let us know... I'll probably have it committed in a few mins. Though I'm getting gunshy lately with commits, even to the trunk. Looking through my old IM log with sylvieg, it looks like it was fixed the afternoon of 7//23 US Eastern time. (Wow, time flies...) Petjal2: Great thanks kerrnel22: yeah, it's good to be gunshy nowadays - though in trunk it is much easier to be promiscuous - it is still wanted and greatly encouraged to be brave, but in trunk you'll have to stand for it for half a year!! you can do it in an experimental branch (which is encouraged also) for completely and totally free, if you like! But for something like a smarty filter that most absolutely probably is overkill.... ... on the other hand I wouldn't promise anything for a smarty filter surviving in trunk without any devel-list discussion proving its relevance beforehand! So: Do what you gotta do! ;) I'm off to fetch something to drink now - but be back soon! ;) It's a very minor addition to the smarty libs. kerrnel22: it might be a minor addition, but it still is an addition and moves us further away from standard smarty - so for example: if it makes us something really special in the smarty community, it is really bad, if we don't commit it back to the smarty community - that's why I asked you to ask in #smarty first, if and how this makes sense ok - just packed my backpack - now I'm really gone and back in about some couple of dozen of minutes... ;) Well, if it gets rejected, then I give up. Keep trying to add value and features to tiki and keep hitting roadblocks or complaints. No 'hey that's a decent addition' or 'hey thanks for adding that'. Usually I get "that's got security problems" or "we already have that" and am asked to roll back, even though I've asked in various ways if XX was already in the software. Frustrating. Nobody cared much when I was working on stuff in 1.9. I don't want to develop just for our site. I think our needs match what the tiki communities needs are, whether they are known or not. I like to think I don't code like a 6th grader and I've got some solid ideas, but I sure don't get that in feedback. Anyway, been in the office too long today. night, and thanks for the help Strange thing happening. I've just uploaded rc4 to a virgin site and have looked at the problem of comments. So 1 x admin a/c and 1 x reg + plus the standard admin log in. 3 Pc's - 1 for each a/c. One is showing a totally different tikiwiki logo than the other 2 and 1 is showing 2 menu tress on the left column. Any ideas whats going on? Paragtim: I don't know, but it sounds like tiki and/or browser caching problems (which I have hit several times). A rational explanation - thanks - and with that I think it is time to call it a day. Hope for a better day tomorrow :) nyloth: got your e-mail, will send an e-mail, may be an announce of RC4 on info.tikwiki.org would be nice so I can point to it put in the announce that security issues were fixed after report from Joshua.. anyone can post to info.tw.o ? I don't think I have access to this site