#tikiwiki 2008-08-05,Tue

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Who	What	When
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chibaguy	Eror msg posted in tw.o forum by user of 2.0rc4 at hosted account: "Warning: Call-time pass-by-reference has been deprecated; If you would like to pass it by reference modify the declaration of preg_match(). If you would like to enable call-time pass-by-reference you can set allow_call_time_pass_reference to true in your INI file in .../lib/tikilib.php on line 6173"	[01:49]
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marclaporte	chibaguy: : was fixed in trunk	[02:06]
chibaguy	hi marclaporte. So what is the response for this user?	[02:07]
marclaporte	[Tikiwiki-cvs/svn] SF.net SVN: tikiwiki:[14034]trunk/lib/tikilib.php I don't know chibaguy	[02:07]
chibaguy	It's a Dreamhost account.	[02:07]
marclaporte	lphuberdeau : chose to commit to trunk, instead of 2.0 I get the same problem	[02:08]
chibaguy	Does it break Tiki, or related to a specific feature, etc.?	[02:09]
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chibaguy	I can suggest that he use trunk, but it's not checked for vulnerabilities, right?	[02:14]
marclaporte	fixes in 2.0 are merged to 3.0	[02:21]
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marclaporte	he could also patch 2.0	[02:21]
chibaguy	OK, I can point him to the fix. As you know, for some users this is no problem, others will be over their heads.	[02:23]
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chibaguy	TikiProfiles is cool. :-)	[02:38]
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Valor	I get this error http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh267/TechDragon74/WIKIERROR.jpg when trying to add events to the calendar, any ideas?	[03:41]
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franck	Valor: you may need to create a calendar first?	[04:00]
Valor	I have created a new calendar, tried it, received the same error, then went into the permissions and granted all permissions to all groups, tried it again and received the same error	[04:02]
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Valor	The strange thing is that I have two separate tikiwiki's a personal one and one I created for work, I am the director of IT at my branch of a corporation, I was asked to create a WIKI to create a knowledge pool for our department across 20 some odd locations. I chose TIKI because it works flawlessly on my hosted website. Which is running "L.A.M.P" at work however the rules changed I had to... ...figure out how to make Tikiwiki work on a 2003 server and IIS. I am using PHP 5 and the latest Mysql	[04:07]
franck	Valor: which version of tw do you use?	[04:08]
Valor	well I started with 1.9 but received a multitude of requests for a WYSIWYG editor, so I upgraded to 2.0rc2 first and am currently running 2.0rc4	[04:10]
franck	I just saw the error message	[04:11]
lphuberdeau_	marclaporte, sylvie backported the fix a few hours ago	[04:11]
franck	lphuberdeau_: is that for Valor?	[04:12]
Valor	Everything seems to work except the calendar, on my personal site the calendar works (2.0rc4) on my work Tiki it does not	[04:12]
lphuberdeau_	no	[04:12]
Valor	both = 2.0rc4	[04:13]
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franck	Valor: I would try to use the query directly in phpmyadmin to see what happens this seems to be a mysql error	[04:13]
Valor	that is what I thought as well but to be honest I do not have a lot of experience with mysql	[04:13]
franck	well open phpMyadmin got to your db and paste the last INSERT statement in a SQL execution window and see what gives	[04:14]
Valor	k, I have to VPN in so I have to leave, I will take screen shots. any other advice if it throws an error is there a fixer?	[04:15]
franck	well reading the SQL statement it looks like ok... I don't know why error is data truncated, like the insert would be too big?	[04:16]
Valor	yea, I tried it with 1 char even	[04:17]
franck	well if it throws an error, we would know that problem is with mysql config and not with tikiwiki	[04:17]
Valor	everything is to big	[04:17]
franck	then you look at my.cnf I'm worried about the - in one of the field	[04:17]
Valor	ok, I can do that do you know where to look or what basic heading I would be looking for?	[04:18]
franck	no sure, but in phpmyadmin it would also give you the parameters under which mysql is running	[04:19]
Valor	I can't IRC once I am VPN'd due to websense, just want to try as much as I can before coming back ok, thanks for the advice, it gives me some places to go look	[04:19]
franck	also check that you don't have the silly php security module, cannot recall the name, but it is a pain I would also look at my log to see the php errors when making the calendar add it may be more informative	[04:20]
Valor	ok	[04:21]
franck	the module is suhosin and it enables many restrictions in php	[04:22]
Valor	and I assume that I can remove this by running the install script again Sorry, I am kind of new to PHP as well	[04:22]
franck	yes or just rename the .ini to .disabled of the module	[04:23]
Valor	ok I = standard server 2003 and vb :_	[04:23]
franck	but usually I look in my httpd log, which usually log my php errors too but then I have to enable that in my php.ini file so here you go you have a few places to look	[04:23]
Valor	ok thanks for the advice I will check it out	[04:24]
franck	btw on windows... you can install apache instead of IIS much better	[04:25]
Valor	Not allowed my home branch is in CA	[04:25]
franck	so like this you have WAMP instead of WIMP	[04:25]
Valor	and they wouldn't allow the apache haha otherwise I would've just used Fedora on a box	[04:25]
franck	like IIS is a professional web server....	[04:26]
Valor	I know, they think apache is full of security holes, and that IIS is more secure that literally made me laugh	[04:26]
franck	They never had to run WSUS?	[04:27]
Valor	actually we do The corp is Mercury Insurance my branch is in Oklahoma	[04:27]
franck	well, 40GB of security fix for MS products, compare to a a few 100MB for a linux distro...	[04:28]
Valor	It is a rather large company, they wanted share point	[04:28]
franck	Valor: by the way look at Zimbra ... the exchange/sharepoint killer	[04:29]
Valor	tell me I know, I am kind of new to Linux world but I use Fedora Core 9 and love it, far better than Windows in my opinion but then again I don't do much gaming	[04:29]
franck	ok, do your vpn and come back with more questions before I head to the club for a few drinks I have a PS3 for gaming ;)	[04:29]
Valor	me to	[04:30]
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Valor	I have heard you can install Linux on a PS3 I might look into that	[04:30]
franck	yes, I have not tried yet I would like to try it to check if it can play all my DVDs... I have all the regions...	[04:30]
Valor	I might not be back tonight it is almost midnight here, but I will do as you suggested, I posted on the forum as well if I find a fix I will post my resolution there, I will come back tho thanks again for the options	[04:32]
franck	no worries	[04:34]
Valor	I will check out Zimbra	[04:34]
franck	check their blog and live demo	[04:34]
Valor	I don't have a lot of say though as I am considered the red headed stepchild :)	[04:34]
jcyrisse	what is the best way to convert a cvs 1.10.1 to svn branch 2.0 on a remote server?	[04:35]
Valor	getting them to try a WIKI was amazing oh and frank, youtube has video on installing linux to ps3	[04:35]
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franck	jcyrisse: did not find anything on www.tw.o? or dev.tw.o?	[04:37]
jcyrisse	well, yes...and no i think i have a little problem lol i had a cvs version, but hadnt updated for awhile	[04:37]
franck	I'm not a big specialist of cvs and svn, I just use them	[04:38]
jcyrisse	nor i...trust me and now, the 1.10.1 has been moved to svn...	[04:38]
franck	most of my upgrades, I just mv the old directory, and then do a clean install, but using the same db parameters found in db/local.php it has worked for me...	[04:38]
jcyrisse	my remote server used the cvs, but does not the svn	[04:38]
franck	I need to copy things from old dir to new, If I did new themes, etc...	[04:39]
jcyrisse	yes...i tried that on a backup copy locally, and seemed to have some problems yes...think my issue comes with some of the plugins, and getting blank pages they changed the instructions for that...and i am a bit lost on that.	[04:39]
franck	if you have installed mods, you need to re-install them	[04:40]
jcyrisse	ah...yeah...that too what mods directory is used for the branch 2.0?	[04:41]
franck	same	[04:41]
jcyrisse	is it the mods.tikiwiki or is it the svn?	[04:41]
franck	mods.tw.o	[04:42]
jcyrisse	ok well, i will give it a shot... heck...what is the worst that can happen....LOL so, then, each time you update your branch 2.0, you do the same thing all over again?	[04:42]
franck	no, I just download the official release some people put their productions servers under svn... it only make sense recently because 1.9 branch is so old....	[04:49]
jcyrisse	i see yes...that is true	[04:52]
chibaguy	My domains don't have svn, so I do an svn-export locally and then update the server with ftp set to overwrite when source file is newer. Not too painful.	[04:54]
jcyrisse	yes...that sounds like what I would need to do. just gotta figure out my blank pages issue	[04:55]
	hmmm....i keep getting an error when checking out from svn on this computer....never happens on my other pc...just this one...so i dont think i get the full copy of the branch	[05:00]
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jcyrisse	i just posted the error message I get from my pc when trying to checkout branch 2.0 from this pc. what am i doing wrong?	[05:34]
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jcyrisse	well, it has to be something with my network. tried a different network location...and no errors	[06:00]
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luciash	morning	[07:14]
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chibaguy_	morning luciash	[07:17]
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idle-	HI.	[07:18]
chibaguy	I just used "Rebuild Thumbnails"in Tiki 2 and my thumbs got wiped. Am I "special" or can others confirm this works ok?	[07:19]
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idle-	I updated a 1.9 to 2.0RC4 and now the password hashes are not the same as before so we are connecting via ldap to active directory. if i delete the user and he registers again, then it works again. so did you change something from 1.9 to 2.0 with the password hashes? if i look into users_users, I can see the difference... can this be migrated? ;-) questions over questions...	[07:19]
luciash	chibaguy: no idea chibaguy: when i try and confirm for you, what would you do ? :)	[07:21]
chibaguy	Hmm. If you also lose your thumbnail images, then I guess it's a bug. If not, then I'll see what's wrong with my site.	[07:25]
luciash	sylvieg: thanks for backport of tikilib.php "Reference not required", i was just about to do it to realize you already did :-p chibaguy: LOL	[07:27]
chibaguy	luciash, is sylvieg's backport about this kind of message: Warning: Call-time pass-by-reference has been deprecated;	[07:28]
luciash	yes	[07:28]
chibaguy	Ah, ok. A guy was asking about that in the tw.o forum.	[07:28]
luciash	svn up but i wonder he got it in rc4, i thought i did it after rc4 chibaguy: what kind of images should i load into my test gallery ?	[07:28]
chibaguy	Well, nothing important, probably.	[07:32]
luciash	LOL, it's test gallery, no worries	[07:33]
chibaguy	Actually my images are ok, but one thumbnail was missing, so I clicked "rebuild thumbs" and now they're all gone.	[07:33]
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luciash	including the originals ? or just the thumbnails are gone ?	[07:33]
chibaguy	Not a big problem for me either, as it's just a test. The original images are there, just the thumbs are missing.	[07:33]
jcyrisse	any idea how i can get rid of this error about needing to run setup.sh? apparently, i dont have permission to do this on my server	[07:34]
luciash	PNGs, GIFs or JPEGs ?	[07:34]
jcyrisse	so not able to add modules	[07:34]
luciash	jcyrisse: manually set writing permissions to the required dirs	[07:34]
jcyrisse	yup...did that	[07:34]
luciash	you have to set them on all folders specified in setup.sh chibaguy: ? chibaguy: doesn't matter ?	[07:35]
jcyrisse	i did do that got no errors on install...it is after....and wanting to access mods	[07:35]
PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by nyloth :: r 14059 /branches/2.0/lib/tikilib.php: [MOD] wiki: support 'lnk' param for img wiki tag to do the same than 'link' but that is not affected by sanitization.	[07:36]
idle-	hmpf.	[07:36]
chibaguy	pngs and jpgs	[07:36]
jcyrisse	should mods be writable still after install?	[07:36]
chibaguy	idle-, sorry I guess no ldap users here. There's more activity later. Maybe someone who knows will see your question. Obviously ldap should work in 2.0.	[07:37]
luciash	jcyrisse: then set the perms on mods/ (i think that handles the fixperms.sh, not setup.sh)	[07:38]
jcyrisse	ah...so it should be chmod 777? hmmm...no mods/ anymore, just modules/	[07:38]
luciash	chibaguy: i guess there's a bug in image galleries setting by default now size of thumbnails to 0x0 so if you rebuild them they get 0x0 size and you think they're gone i have set manually size of thumbnails to 80x80 and rebuilding thumbnails works mods get created probably by setup.sh, right so you have to manually create that dir jcyrisse: ↑	[07:40]
chibaguy	Thanks, luciach.	[07:41]
luciash	np, chibahay	[07:41]
jcyrisse	ah...let me try that	[07:41]
luciash	:-p	[07:41]
chibaguy	duh	[07:42]
luciash	jcyrisse: permission granted	[07:42]
chibaguy	maybe it's coffee time	[07:42]
luciash	hehe chibaguy: so how you cope with that now ? ;) bug report ? fix ? or just workaround at your site by manually setting the correct thumbnail size ?	[07:42]
jcyrisse	that did the trick!	[07:43]
luciash	(after the coffee of course ;))	[07:43]
jcyrisse	ty!	[07:43]
luciash	np	[07:43]
chibaguy	I think even after coffee 'fix' is probably out of reach ;-)	[07:44]
luciash	g gotta work, later guys !	[07:44]
chibaguy	cya luciash, have a good one.	[07:45]
luciash	good work ? thanks :)	[07:45]
chibaguy	well, as good as possible. :-)	[07:45]
jcyrisse	well...hmmm...spoke to soon trying to rebuild the list and update remote index and says it is not a list of modules oops k fixed it...removed the link in tikiwiki that gave mods.tikiwiki.org/index.php	[07:45]
idle-	ok changing the authentication to "tiki old hash" solved the problem ;)	[07:54]
chibaguy	ok, seems reasonable. :-)	[07:57]
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PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by nyloth :: r 14059 /branches/2.0/lib/tikilib.php: [MOD] wiki: support 'lnk' param for img wiki tag to do the same than 'link' but that is not affected by sanitization. SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14058 /trunk/lib/tikilib.php: oops - thx nyloth SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14057 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [MOD]wiki: new syntax --text-- for deleted text	[09:18]
luciash	imho nyloth's last commit should go to trunk	[09:22]
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yonixxx	Hi all	[09:42]
PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by nyloth :: r 14059 /branches/2.0/lib/tikilib.php: [MOD] wiki: support 'lnk' param for img wiki tag to do the same than 'link' but that is not affected by sanitization. SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14058 /trunk/lib/tikilib.php: oops - thx nyloth SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14057 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [MOD]wiki: new syntax --text-- for deleted text	[09:45]
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MatWho	hi all	[12:00]
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MatWho	Can someone help? What is the purpose of having transition style sheets? If I want to make a modified version of tikineat.css, do I just merge the 2 .css file and edit that. Or is there something better? Thanks.	[12:04]
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sylvieg	transition css is supposed to help people to have a nice upgrade if they have their own style. It is the list of new styles you can not use it if your style has been updated	[12:19]
MatWho	sylvieg: Thanks, so I guess its best to combine the original css file with the transition one and start modifying the result.	[12:25]
sylvieg	exactly	[12:25]
MatWho	sylvieg: Great, thanks :)	[12:25]
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sylvieg	does somebody know how to rollback in svn svn merge -r HEAD:14054 lib/trackers/trackerlib.php is not working	[12:40]
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yonixxx	Hi ricks	[12:52]
ricks99	hi yonixxx	[12:52]
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MatWho__	hi	[13:48]
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mathieso	Hi. Never used IRC before, seeing what happens.	[13:53]
yonixxx	it is ok :)	[13:54]
ricks99	welcome to the party	[13:54]
Caarrie	party? party where?	[13:55]
mathieso	Thnx! Question: recently created a VERY simple plugin for my own use. HIGHLIGHT - highlights text like a yellow highlighter marker (or whatever color). All it does is set foreground and background color of text. Is that worth adding to the Tikiwiki CVS?	[13:57]
ricks99	sure, add it to the mods.	[13:58]
lphuberdeau	don't we have wiki syntax for that?	[13:59]
ricks99	to change color, y, but not the ability to change color & background (that i'm aware of)	[13:59]
mathieso	I didn't find anything to change background color, which is what it really does. There's a sample at: http://mis.mathiesons.com/tiki-index.php?page=Highlight+plugin+demo	[14:01]
lphuberdeau	I think the plugin syntax is a little heavy for that kind of stuff	[14:01]
mathieso	Hmm, so some new wiki markup would be better?	[14:02]
lphuberdeau	maybe an extension of the current one, but you probably don't want to modify the parser	[14:02]
ricks99	i like, but would b nice to configure fore/background color: {HIGHLIGHT(foreground=######,background=######}	[14:03]
lphuberdeau	ricks, what is the wiki syntax for text highlight?	[14:04]
yonixxx	bye all !	[14:04]
ricks99	wasnt aware that there was one...	[14:04]
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mathieso	Colored text is like this: ~~#FF0000:text~~ Sets foreground only.	[14:05]
lphuberdeau	oh	[14:05]
ricks99	mathieso: would be nice to take ur plugin and make it configuraable (foreground/background colors)	[14:06]
lphuberdeau	probably wouldn't be too bad to add a second parameter to it done converting the plugins begining with A!	[14:06]
mathieso	OK, I'll make a plugin with 2 params. Now the hard stuff. I've never used CVS or contributed to an open source project. I do PHP in Windows with Aptana or Notepad++. Suggestions as to what CVS client to use, and how to proceed?	[14:08]
lphuberdeau	we don't use CVS anymore project is on subversion, you can use TortoiseSVN on windows... works decently http://dev.tikiwiki.org/SVNTips	[14:09]
mathieso	Great, thnx, I'll take a look.	[14:10]
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lphuberdeau	adding it to the wiki syntax is easy enough	[14:13]
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mathieso	I'll add the plugin for now, since I can do that without causing too much damage :-) . Will look at changing the wiki syntax later, when I get the hang of things. Thnx for everyone's suggestions.	[14:20]
lphuberdeau	almost done with it	[14:20]
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jcyrisse	i am having trouble with installing mods in 2.o rc4....says they download, and appear to be published, but i still get messages that plugin doesn't exist does the modules/ and mod/ dir both need to have chmd 777?	[14:29]
sylvieg	lphuberdeau: do not forget to update the wiki help too	[14:34]
lphuberdeau	done well, doc updated	[14:36]
sylvieg	:-)	[14:36]
nickelodeon	hi can someone tell me where the 'delete Wiki page' screen would be within Tiki?	[14:37]
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nickelodeon	n/m - found it thanks	[14:40]
idle-	is it possible to create a menu automatically from a structure (wiki)? and I think wiki_download_attachment doesn't uses the right permissions for downloading attachments from a wiki page with special permissions	[14:54]
lphuberdeau	hum, there is a module that allows you to include a wiki page... if that page contains a table of contents, it might work (just guessing here)	[14:55]
idle-	if I try the link f.e. tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=96&download=y as a user with no rights for this page it can download the attachment (the user has the global right to tiki_p_wiki_view_attachments (2.0rc4)	[14:56]
luciash	idle-: yes, in custom module on Admin > Modules ricks99: what about {TAG(tag=>span,style=>background-color: yellow)}highlighted text{TAG} ?	[14:57]
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ricks99	i wonder.... there's already a 'highlight' class in the css. anyway to simply use that? {tag(tag=span,class=highlight)}	[15:01]
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idle-	luciash: that works. thx.	[15:03]
jcyrisse	anyone know what the files for "submit" wikiplugin are? i am getting "array" messages from mods.tikiwiki.org	[15:04]
luciash	TAG plugin doesn't support class afaik	[15:05]
ricks99	@jcyrisee: they are the the png for each site	[15:05]
luciash	jcyrisse: ???	[15:05]
jcyrisse	ok...the icons were showing prior to update to 2.0 from 1.10.1	[15:06]
luciash	ricks99: but you can use class on some other plugins iirc	[15:06]
jcyrisse	now, i get the links, but no icons	[15:06]
ricks99	@jcyrisse: if u did a ftp update, u probably overwrote the directory that contained the graphcis	[15:07]
jcyrisse	so, were those pngs stored in a folder?	[15:07]
luciash	ricks99: DIV e.g.	[15:07]
jcyrisse	yes...but have a backup...just trying to locate where that directory was	[15:07]
ricks99	@luciash: y. maybe {TAG} should be updated to include class info	[15:07]
luciash	ricks99: {DIV(class=highlight,type=span)}higlighted text{DIV}	[15:08]
jcyrisse	usually, i get a list of the files and locations from the mods page but just says "array"	[15:08]
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ricks99	i believe the pngs were in ../img/icons2/	[15:09]
nickelodeon	hi, can someone tell me all the tables that get touched when one selects 'remove' from the pulldown on tiki-listpages.php?	[15:09]
jcyrisse	k...will look there	[15:09]
ricks99	but then.. whoever wrote that plugin probably had no idea what the heck he was doing (blush)	[15:09]
jcyrisse	yup...that is it...	[15:10]
luciash	ricks99: what plugin ?	[15:10]
ricks99	sorry, that was for jcyrisse: submit plugin	[15:10]
luciash	ah :-p	[15:11]
jcyrisse	lol	[15:11]
ricks99	jcyrisse: pls feel free to 'fix' anything in the SUBMIT plugin. it was one of my early attempts and im sure there are better wasy	[15:12]
jcyrisse	ricks99: if i knew what the heck I was doing, i would	[15:13]
luciash	ricks99: you could also do %hls%higlighted text%hle% ;)	[15:13]
ricks99	hsl? hls?	[15:13]
jcyrisse	ricks99: i am afraid that i wouldn't be help	[15:13]
luciash	yup, dynamic variable for %hls% you put <span class="highlight"> and for %hle% you put </span>	[15:13]
lphuberdeau	lphuberdeau is writing a script to package incremental releases after 2.0	[15:14]
sylvieg	lph I was just updating the quicktags for strike text ... do you think the syntac of colored quicktags will be changed - or we stay simple on quicktags?	[15:16]
lphuberdeau	hum... no idea... mostly the same really it's only as if you split the color in two... ~~blue,yellow:text~~, ~~blue:text~~ is just like before	[15:17]
sylvieg	.... my question was more - quictags insert all the params or the main ones? ... I have no idea what is the best?	[15:18]
lphuberdeau	can't say, never used quicktags probably leave as is bg color is mostly an 'advanced' feature	[15:18]
sylvieg	- ok	[15:19]
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luciash	bueheheh, where's my avatar gone on tw.o ? :'(	[15:27]
tomekkott	does anyone here have any experience writing the installer for tw, specifically the oracle db connections? the problem is that my university provider only installed php with: --with-oracle (etc.) not --with-oci8	[15:29]
nickelodeon	hi, can someone tell me all the tables that get touched when one selects 'remove' from the pulldown on tiki-listpages.php? alternatively, which functions I need to call in tikilib.php to remove a page? ie, remove_object, remove_all_versions	[15:30]
tomekkott	since tw only checks for oci-8, that's gonna be a problem and I really (REALLY) want to use tw	[15:30]
lphuberdeau	tomekkott, to be honest, oracle support has not been tested in years and I am really not certain it works at this time	[15:32]
tomekkott	well, I'm happy to work with it (it's my only option), I'm just having trouble digging through the installer	[15:32]
lphuberdeau	which version are you using? if you plan on making fixes, you should work from trunk	[15:33]
tomekkott	tw 2.0rc4, or do you mean oracle?	[15:33]
lphuberdeau	tw trunk and 2.0 are fairly close at this time	[15:33]
tomekkott	ok, for now i'll just be working on local, I'll find out where to upload changes if I get it working... :) Does tw generally abstract all db connections to ADODB?	[15:34]
lphuberdeau	yes	[15:34]
tomekkott	and so would it be just making sure that tw interfaces with ADODB using the correct driver on ADODB's part?	[15:34]
lphuberdeau	table creation scripts are converted through mechanism unknown to me yeah, but we might be dropping adodb soon (in favor of PDO)	[15:34]
tomekkott	man, these hurdles are just piling up for me hehe	[15:35]
lphuberdeau	oracle is the only DB supported at your workplace?	[15:36]
tomekkott	the only one that can be used to power an external site apparently, even though they compiled php with mysql and postgres support...I've just learned not to argue, they seem stuck in their old, expensive ways.	[15:38]
lphuberdeau	they can get expensive support from MySQL if it pleases them	[15:38]
tomekkott	wouldn't THAT be nice. sigh I sometimes wish that the university IT department were outsourced to someone who keeps up to date with new software... i guess they just need the stability that much	[15:39]
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lphuberdeau	outsourcing the hosting is a good way to escape them ;)	[15:40]
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tomekkott	would love to escape them, but they won't provide forwarding from a domain name to an external host	[15:48]
Darkbee	Do the email capabilities (across multiple features) work in tikiwiki 1.9.11? I can't figure how to set the smtp server that should be used.	[15:49]
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nickelodeon	Hi - has anyone encountered the issue referenced in the following tw.o bug post - TikiWiki Plugins � Issues with Using Double Quotes to Pass Parameters in 1.9.11 http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=1934&trackerId=5&show=view	[16:11]
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MatWho__	Darkbee: I never left, so that makes me loyal :)	[16:21]
Darkbee	hardcore ;)	[16:23]
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nickelodeon	Hi - has anyone encountered the issue referenced in the following tw.o bug post - TikiWiki Plugins � Issues with Using Double Quotes to Pass Parameters in 1.9.11 http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=1934&trackerId=5&show=view	[16:51]
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SEWilco2	Seems excessive for listing 50 entries in a 157-file File Directory: [ Execution time: 247.28 secs ] [ Memory usage: 23.69MB ] [ 543 database queries used in 244 secs ] [ GZIP Disabled ] [ Server load: 0.00 ]	[17:11]
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kerrnel	sylvieg: were you able to rollback?	[17:40]
sylvieg	I already did it nickelodeon: in 2.0 {REMARKSBOX(title=>"Comment, ffffff",type=>comment)}sdfsfsdfs{REMARKSBOX} is working	[17:40]
kerrnel	ok cool thanks, sorry, I'll take a look and see what's up. I suspect it's as you say, I didn't do an update first normally svn catches that	[17:42]
sylvieg	except if you copy your files from somewhere else	[17:43]
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SEWilco2	sylvieg: For SEFURL, URLs hardcoded in templates could be processed by a template function sefpage(page,type)... same as sefurl modifier but page is a constant rather than variable. sylvieg: At first I thought I also had a special case where URLs are stored in arrays, but now realize when I get to the code which assembles the URL then the URLs will be properly formatted before being stored.	[17:51]
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kerrnel	will have to remember that, thanks	[18:03]
nickelodeon	sylvieg: thanks; i am running 1.9.11; is this a known issue in this version? am planning to upgrade soon, but wanted to know if i am out of luck (regarding using double quotes to pass params to plugins) unless i upgrade	[18:05]
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sylvieg	But I just test in 1.9 it is working also you need to put a comma btween the params	[18:06]
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sylvieg	see my answer in dev.tw.org	[18:07]
nickelodeon	sylvieg - thanks, actually i did put it in with a comma, but it got stripped out when i posted the comment	[18:08]
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sylvieg	http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=1934&trackerId=5&show=view it is working for me is it working for you?	[18:09]
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SEWilco2	I'm inserting $debugger->msg statements. Is there a superglobal variable with the name of the current program?	[18:24]
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srishti	marclaporte: Tikiwiki (http://dev.tikiwiki.org/) is unable to connect to the database	[18:25]
marclaporte	srishti: : thanks	[18:27]
srishti	marclaporte: Also we are not able to load info.tw.o and wiki-translation.com pages	[18:31]
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marclaporte	sites should be back now	[19:00]
srishti	yes, all sites are up	[19:01]
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SEWilco2	Oh, ick. Anyone improved file gallery SELECT in the last few days? Database is taking 3 minutes to get a list of files.	[19:23]
lphuberdeau	trunk?	[19:24]
SEWilco2	trunk 2.0RC4. I updated my copy on Friday.	[19:25]
lphuberdeau	that's not trunk but no, no changes there	[19:25]
SEWilco2	http://sh.nu/p/24785 Yeah, you're right. I have 2 copies. This is on trunk, not my 2.0RC4. Obviously I added those debugger messages, as trunk only has a handful of debugger messages.	[19:25]
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sylvieg	SEWilco: you can use the log of sql queries and after scan the table adodb_logsql	[19:30]
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sylvieg	sylvieg needs to do an UI to read the table directly in tw	[19:31]
SEWilco2	Thanks, but I didn't know until I zeroed in on that code where the delay was coming from.	[19:31]
lphuberdeau	trying to see if there is anything terrible in that query	[19:32]
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SEWilco2	is adodb_logsql accessible as a PHP variable, so I can display it from the Debug Console?	[19:33]
sylvieg	it is only from phpmyadmin or other ... (i know I need the UI) but at least you can run the log and sort on time consuming	[19:33]
SEWilco2	I've been in phpmyadmin (I do see indexes exist on tiki_files). I don't see any adodb_* tables.	[19:36]
sylvieg	... seems to be broken - daamit	[19:37]
SEWilco2	I see "Enable Statistics" on the phpmyadmin Database page.	[19:39]
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lphuberdeau	hum... the indexes on tiki_files are terrible who searches by exact description?	[19:52]
SEWilco2	I think I saw a sort by description option. That's probably why description is indexed.	[19:58]
lphuberdeau	sewilico, run EXPLAIN on that query and see what it tells you I get nothing good because I don't have data	[19:58]
SEWilco2	Running EXPLAIN. What's the incantation for LogSQL? I'm not finding the object which it is a member of.	[19:59]
lphuberdeau	explain select ... basically the same query with explain in front	[20:00]
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lphuberdeau	should list you the steps mysql take to execute it	[20:00]
srishti	marclaporte: We cannot load the info.tw.o page.	[20:02]
lphuberdeau	profiles gone too	[20:03]
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SEWilco2	phpmyadmin is whining about my filegal EXPLAIN SELECT... http://sh.nu/p/24786	[20:05]
marclaporte	Unable to connect to the database !	[20:05]
lphuberdeau	you need to replace the ? with the actual values	[20:05]
marclaporte	User infotw_infotw has already more than 'max_user_connections' active connections (fuck)	[20:06]
lphuberdeau	should be 1 at both places	[20:06]
marclaporte	I guess that could be a nice problem of more visitors on the site	[20:06]
srishti	marclaporte: maybe	[20:06]
SEWilco2	Fortunately, the EXPLAIN didn't take 3 minutes to run. http://sh.nu/p/24787	[20:08]
lphuberdeau	is there a way you can get better formatting? hard to read without the table	[20:09]
SEWilco2	SEWilco2 expresses sympathy for the poor, battered, info DB server.	[20:10]
lphuberdeau	ok, the query is just messing up the optimizer 3 filesorts, that explains why it's so slow	[20:11]
SEWilco2	I pasted in the table source, but it sh.nu did not parse it: http://sh.nu/p/24788	[20:13]
sylvieg	since the last adodb upgrade - logging the adodb queries is limited by a timer (query exceeding 0.0.5s ...... So - it is not doing what I want .... can I change in 2.0 - or it is too late :-( :-( boohhh	[20:14]
lphuberdeau	the query definitely needs fixing but to do anything about it, we need test data is the data confidential or you can post it somewhere for us to use?	[20:15]
SEWilco2	It's a file gallery. Zip the TW php directory and batch upload it. My data is confidential, but it's not hard to fill a file gallery with something.	[20:15]
lphuberdeau	need the tiki_file_galleries and tiki_files table dumps	[20:16]
SEWilco2	I suspect what you really need is my settings for file gallery options. I think the main thing I did was select ascending file name sorting.	[20:17]
lphuberdeau	if it's going to take me 2 hours just to create data, I'm probably not going to do it (sad truth) have to go now, back in a little while	[20:18]
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SEWilco2	Do you have a zip program? Use the TW php directory as a bunch of files.	[20:20]
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sylvieg	mathieso wanted to commit his highlight plugin in trunk - I told him in mods as lph did the job in trunk - he quiet - upset ...:-(	[20:21]
SEWilco2	lph already did a highlight plugin?	[20:22]
kerrnel	I think he modified the text color widget to accept a background color	[20:23]
SEWilco2	Pronoun trouble over what "the" was referring to.	[20:23]
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srishti	marclaporte: the status info for info.tw.o says 'Did not find 'Content Management System' in the page content'	[20:28]
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nyloth	Hi all :)	[20:35]
sylvieg	hi	[20:35]
	how do I merge only one file from 2.0 to trunk?	[20:40]
SEWilco2	It doesn't involve 'cp' or 'copy', followed by svn?	[20:44]
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marclaporte	polom nyloth srishti: : I am impressed with your monitoring	[20:46]
srishti	marclaporte: thank you	[20:46]
sylvieg	when guys are ready to switch to pdo - I will dev the sql log in pdo - it is so convinient not sure I will be able to do the sql log with PDO :-(	[20:47]
SEWilco2	sylvieg: You might check if there are other poorly documented debugging tools besides "PDOStatement:::debugDumpParams() which will return a string with with the sql query and the bound param's. " Or, from another viewpoint, the cool phase of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) will last about 30 years so there will be plenty of time to get used to it.	[20:51]
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sylvieg	what do you mean SEWilco ? not sure if I well understand? Is there a debugdumpparams?	[20:54]
lepei	i	[20:54]
sylvieg	I fixed the sql log in trunk with adodb ... but if we change to pdo ... there is no equivalent - so far I llok at the poor doc...	[20:55]
lepei	i came here for a couple of problems last month. Now i have a (big) part of the solution.	[20:55]
nyloth	sylvieg: the work-in-progress for pdo is already commited in branches/experimental/tiki-pdo ... don't hesitate to get your checkout and test or add new features ;)	[20:55]
lepei	it was a feature that has to be modified by the provider. i suppose it could be interesting someone ?	[20:56]
nyloth	sylvieg: As you will see in tiki-pdo, we have some overloaded class/methods... so, you should be able to make what you want...	[20:57]
lepei	the problem was : when connect, no access was given to the admin	[20:57]
sylvieg	nyloth: ye - as I have the adodb function , I can use some copy / paste	[20:57]
lepei	do i have te report this to someone ?	[20:57]
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sylvieg	but I am very upset with adodb - they broke the login stuff with the last upgrade lepei: yes it can be be very helpful to write this in doc.tw or if you want to explain here - and after copy/paste in doc.tw	[20:58]
lepei	but ! where and i think i should be beter that my comments are validated by an 'expert' ok sylvieg, i will collationate (en fran�ais : r�colter) all the usefull data and send a message this week. because i would solve a last (lol) problem : when i login, the url change to 'nowhere', so i have to clic 'back' to reset the page.	[20:59]
sylvieg	thx it is very good to have this kind of feedback - because hosting configurationg can so so diverse	[21:01]
lepei	the hosting is on servage.net	[21:01]
nyloth	nyloth have to go... see you tomorrow bye	[21:06]
sylvieg	sylvieg co experimental	[21:06]
nyloth	sylvieg: ok, give me (and sept_7) some feedback :) It should be really faster ;) ++	[21:06]
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tomekkott	I have a quick question about the move from ADODB to PDO: what is the timeframe that this change is going to happen on?	[21:08]
sylvieg	it will be tiki3.0 - april 2008 - if I undestood well in trun I do not know	[21:12]
SEWilco2	Last april?	[21:14]
sylvieg	:-> 2009 sorry	[21:14]
SEWilco2	I suspected that is what you meant. :-)	[21:14]
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SEWilco2	sylvieg: About PDO debugDumpParams(), search for debug in the Notes on http://us3.php.net/pdo	[21:16]
sylvieg	i see it - but I do not think it is what I am looking for	[21:17]
lepei	bye	[21:17]
sylvieg	sylvieg thinking about joing the pdo dev to add logging	[21:17]
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SEWilco2	sylvieg: Just thought I'd point out that undocumented debug tool in case it helps to find more such things. It's something to try in Google.	[21:17]
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sylvieg	lphuberdeau: I changed templates/tiki-admin-include-general.tpl in 2.0 and trunk - trhe will be conflict. Either you explain me how to merge , either when you merge you ignore 2.0 sorry about that	[21:23]
lphuberdeau	I documented the merging on svntips	[21:24]
sylvieg	ok thanks will give a try	[21:24]
	cabn I use svnmerge.php for merge 2.0 to trunk?	[21:29]
lphuberdeau	no	[21:29]
srishti	marclaporte: http://security.tikiwiki.org is unable to connect to the database	[21:29]
lphuberdeau	need to use svnbranchupdate php doc/devtools/svnbranchupdate.php branches/2.0 from a trunk checkout resolve conflicts, then svn ci -F svn-commit.tmp	[21:29]
sylvieg	sorry was on the bad paragraph	[21:31]
srishti	marclaporte: site is back up	[21:31]
marclaporte	srishti : thanks	[21:33]
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PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14079 /trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-general.tpl: [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/2.0 14049 to 14076	[22:02]
sylvieg	thx lph	[22:03]
lphuberdeau	sylvieg, only one file in the merge?	[22:03]
sylvieg	no - there are 2 more - but I was testing little by little	[22:04]
lphuberdeau	bad	[22:04]
sylvieg	will check this other one	[22:04]
lphuberdeau	you need to commit all at once	[22:04]
sylvieg	ah? the other are lost ?	[22:04]
lphuberdeau	well, you only have them locally, but it makes it hard to trace afterwards	[22:04]
sylvieg	ok merge done - will not do next time	[22:06]
PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14080 /trunk/lib/ (setup/sanitization.php tikilib.php): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/2.0 14049 to 14076	[22:06]
sylvieg	replace will do all next time cool liv svntools lph... s/liv/lib	[22:06]
lphuberdeau	just does a bunch of small things needed all around	[22:13]
sylvieg	buit it is clean and easy	[22:14]
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Xun	Anyone have any idea why the mittwoch template doesn't display correctly in Internet Explorer? I used firefox to dev my wiki, but I just checked it out in IE (http://picentral.net) - the bottom of the page is overlapping the top!	[23:11]
kerrnel	There are some CSS extensions that IE doesn't support that Firefox does I used to use the Damian theme with rounded corners on some of the boxes, but I soon found out that IE doesn't support the rounded corners.	[23:14]
Xun	dang...is there anyway I could fix... it? It just moves the body/footer up to overlap an important piece of the header	[23:16]
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kerrnel	Dunno, I haven't messed much with the themes. chibaguy could definitely help you out. Post something on the forum or go to themes.tikiwiki.org and leave a comment for him	[23:42]
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