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kerrnelHow do you rollback?
ie. uncommit
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lphuberdeauneed to apply reverse diff [00:19]
franckI have set a remind me feature on a site, but it does not work
the site is https
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lphuberdeauie svn merge -r1234:1233 [00:20]
kerrnelk, thx
hopefully don't need it
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PS|botSVN: Commit by kerrnel22 :: r 14082 /trunk/ (2 files): [FIX] Forgot a major part of the blank date feature in trackers. Files in this commit MUST accompany those in my initial commit for this new feature in the tracker_item_field_input.tpl log. This commit allows for variations of blank fields and editing of those fields. Without this the feature doesn't work. [00:46]
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chibaguytw.o needs an update. Commas are being stripped out.
Interestingly, in a post preview, "style" is rendered normally but in the refreshed textarea it's "st<x>yle".
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kerrnelI think it's with 2.0
I posted a bug in the tracker for dev.tw.o with the same problem
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chibaguyhi kerrnel, yes, but I thought the most recent files fixed that. [01:37]
kerrneldunno. maybe they have but they haven't been pushed to *.tw.o yet
Not even sure if its a problem with RC4 or with trunk
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chibaguySeems to be fixed in rc4.
(or maybe after rc4, in current svn latest files.)
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lphuberdeauI think it was after [01:40]
chibaguyAh ok, I'm losing track of what versions I'm running....
;-)
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lphuberdeauI don't run any, makes the task much easier [01:41]
chibaguy:-)
I think there's a zen koan like that: first there are no versions, then there are versions, then there are none.... ;-)
Or maybe it was 'mountain'....
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kerrnelthere are four lights [01:46]
chibaguyAs long as they're not oncoming in my lane... ;-). [01:49]
kerrnellol
it's not the four lights, it's the 18 wheels
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chibaguygood point [01:50]
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marclaportepolom
did anyone checkout profiles yet?
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chibaguyhi marclaporte. yes, I had a quick look.
It worked smoothly. Installed the bug tracker.
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marclaporteyay!
Do you see the possibilites I see?
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chibaguyI think the feature name isn't too clear. It reminds me of the install profiles -- slashdot, etc. [02:58]
marclaportethis is like version 2 of that [02:59]
chibaguyI see. [02:59]
marclaportebut useable not just on install
but anytime
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chibaguyCan it replace admin mods, etc.? [03:00]
marclaportesome I think [03:00]
chibaguyIt seems to be the same kind of tool. [03:00]
marclaporteyes & no
mods modifies the code of your TikiWiki
profiles are just configuration
But since you can do a lot with trackers, we can release small apps anytime
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chibaguyoh, no new files, just db content. [03:02]
marclaportevoilą
but if we had css override...
like this: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=1320
we could use profile to distribute theme adjustments
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chibaguyAs long as there is logic to apply the override for the appropriate theme.
"if codex.css, apply codex-override.css" sort of thing
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I see how distributing theme adjustments would be useful, but there could be a problem if the adustment is outdated by the next actual release.
Also maybe a site wants a local theme style override. Will a general theme adjustment overwrite this, or add to it?
-- Implementation details....
...but a cool function, one way or the other.
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marclaporte:-) [03:34]
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chibaguyTurning on Babelfish translation urls, I get an error: "Babelfish (debug): Fatal error" in 2.0svn. [03:53]
SEWilcoToo bad. In GMT we're now in Wednesday, so bug reports have to be filed in Lithuanian. [03:58]
marclaporteLOL [04:00]
SEWilcoHmm. If someone turned on dev's translation, that might indeed break the bug reports. :-) :-( [04:01]
chibaguyThe Babelfish logos work ok, though. (They display and Babelfish translation of page is produced). Well, I haven't turned these things on in a long time and wondered if they're still ok. [04:12]
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SEWilcoOK, good. [04:23]
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chibaguyHow is the language set for a page when it's being created/edited (2.0)? In older versions there's a dropdown list. [04:57]
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Or did I dream that? I can't find the info at doc.tw.o. [05:19]
How is an existing page indicated as a translation for another page? The "translate" link seems to be to make a new page ??
Interface on tiki-edit_translation.php is very confusing IMHO.
As long as I'm asking/ranting, is it just me or is adding an image to a wiki page broken in 2.0?
There is an "add another image" button (even for first image?) that I click and go to files directory in a popup window. I navigate and select an image. Firefox wants to download it. Nothing happens on the wiki editpage.
This is with current 2.0svn.
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Turning off "use file galleries for image inclusion" enables the upload-from-disk interface. But does file gallery image inclusion work? [05:45]
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chibaguyActually images aren't working for me in the file galleries, in general (don't display, path appears instead). Is this the current state, or is my site having problems, I wonder. [06:09]
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chibaguyhi and bye, luciash. Time for me to go. :-) [08:11]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by Jyhem :: r 14086 /trunk/ (15 files in 8 dirs): [MOD] Merge topic_image.php with article_image.php and remove topic_image.php [08:34]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by Jyhem :: r 14087 /trunk/article_image.php: [MOD] Add topic_image functionalities in article_image, so rev 14086 works [08:40]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by sept_7 :: r 14089 /trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] new upload manager for files gallery... first step.
SVN: Commit by Jyhem :: r 14088 /trunk/article_image.php: [MOD] article_image.php with no image_type parameter defaults to old behaviour to preserve environment
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SVN: Commit by sept_7 :: r 14089 /trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [ENH] new upload manager for files gallery... first step.
SVN: Commit by Jyhem :: r 14088 /trunk/article_image.php: [MOD] article_image.php with no image_type parameter defaults to old behaviour to preserve environment
SVN: Commit by Jyhem :: r 14087 /trunk/article_image.php: [MOD] Add topic_image functionalities in article_image, so rev 14086 works
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PS|botSVN: Commit by sept_7 :: r 14090 /branches/experimental/tiki-pdo/ (68 files in 23 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 13998 to 14089 [09:44]
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lq_261Hi. I've just installed the latest version. One of my absolute requirements is that all editing is WYSIWYG. I note that this is available when editing blog content, but not anywhere else. This strikes me as odd, considering is as (apparently) available evenywhere in previous versions. Is there a way to 'enable' it in all areas for the latest version? [11:00]
ricks99_u have the wywiwyg feature enabled (on admin: features)? [11:01]
lq_261In the latest version, there is 'WYSIWYG' option admin:features
sorry, there is NO option for that in admin:features
lol
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ricks99_what is ur tiki versrion? wysiwyg was rolled out in 2.0 (currently in RC4 status) [11:02]
lq_2611.9 [11:04]
ricks99_i dont believe that wysiwyg is included in 1.9 (unless you mod fckeditor youreslf) [11:05]
lq_261it is, at least for the blog editing. Is v2.0 stable? I presume so if it's RC? [11:05]
ricks99_docs say wysiwyg is 1.10 (now named 2.) see: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/wysiwyg [11:06]
lq_261See the bottom of this page: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Wysiwyg+Editor+Admin [11:07]
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ricks99_y. wysiwyg is 1.10/2.0. for 1.9 requries manual install of fckeditor [11:09]
lq_261Ok, I'll think about upgrading to 2.0. Incidentally, I'm aware that LDAP authentication is possible against active directory. Is it also possible to manage permissions from AD too, or to groups HAVE to be set up in wikiwiki?
tikiwiki, even
ffs
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ricks99_sorry, im not familiar with ldap + tiki [11:10]
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sylvieglq_261: no there is no connection between ldap group and tikiwiki - but I wrote a program to sync the group - that is not enough generic to be tw but can help to sync [12:20]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14092 /branches/2.0/templates/tiki-view_tracker_item.tpl: regression: in dev.tw.org, the user modifier tracker field was no more updated [12:38]
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chibaguyTikipedia theme is updated for 2.0 if anyone wants to give it a try: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/mods/trunk/themes/tikipedia.tar.gz?view=tar [12:48]
ricks99_* rick stands in awe of garys style talents! [12:51]
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chibaguythanks, ricks99_, I also stand in awe of many people's talents in this group, you included ;-) [12:58]
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MatWho[:) [13:41]
otabzo:-) [13:43]
MatWho8) [13:44]
otabz8-) [13:45]
mstefhi, if i use spaces and national accented chars in ((wiki)) links they are not detected as such, is this normal? [13:46]
ricks99_@mstef: depends on our "wiki link format" setting
if "english" no accents allowed
see the docs for details: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Wiki%20Config#_Wiki_Link_Format
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SEWilcoAlso, would accented chars function if htaccess is in use? [13:48]
mstefricks99_: thanks for the link, i'll look it up.
ricks99_: that does it. thanks a lot, i dunno, but maybe latin would be a better default
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ricks99_@SEWilco: not sure. may need to be encoded properly [13:51]
PS|botSVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14095 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/ (2 files): [MOD] More info functions [13:57]
chibaguyWeb destinations as subway map: http://informationarchitects.jp/start/
(somewhat off-topic)
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lphuberdeaufunny [14:14]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14097 /trunk/lib/profilelib/installlib.php: [MOD] Allow references to 'wiki page' object type to be used as wiki_page [14:37]
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SEWilco2lph: thanks for that SVN. I'm dealing with other space/_ /+ issues. Glad one is already fixed. [14:46]
nickelodeonhi had a question about the SQL plugin [14:47]
SEWilco2Hi. But I won't ask for you to ask. [14:48]
nickelodeonOkay :) - I am trying to use the {SQL(db=>''DSN name'')} SELECT column1[,column2,column3,...] FROM table{SQL} syntax as specified on http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=PluginSQL&bl=y
I have created the user, and the DSN
but when I try to use this plugin, I get the following error: "You do not have permission to use this feature"
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SEWilco2What groups is that user a member of? Registered? [14:51]
nickelodeonSEWilco2: i am logged in myself, and I am a member of the Admins group [14:51]
sylviegyou need a special perm tiki_p_dsn_databasename
replace databasename with ...
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nickelodeonah [14:52]
sylviegbecause it is a big security hole otherwise [14:52]
nickelodeonsure - i figured [14:52]
SEWilco2Yup, I just checked that in the code. tiki_p_dsn_* is the only permission required. [14:53]
nickelodeonthanks - to your knowledge, is this plugin widely used by tiki-ites? [14:54]
SEWilco2(assume silence means nobody has enough knowledge) Good luck with it. [14:55]
sylviegnot very often - not enough powerful [14:55]
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nickelodeonhmm - odd - i have added the tiki_p_database perm to the Admins group, and still get the "You do not have perm" msg [14:57]
marclaportepolom
marclaporte doesn't remember a tiki_p_database
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SEWilco2nickelodeon: "database" has to be the name of the specific database.
nickelodeon: and you forgot "_dsn_"
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nickelodeonright - i got that - was just pasting that for generic purposes.. [14:58]
SEWilco2Please wait, someone will help you eventually.
I was just answering that for generic purposes.
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sylviegnickelodeon: clean the cache - perms are cached [15:01]
SEWilco2I think he's busy inserting _dsn_ and testing. [15:01]
marclaportemarclaporte wonders what would be a good profile to show off pretty trackers... [15:02]
SEWilco2Incidentally: To whomever added "Cache" to the admin menu so people could find it: Thanks. [15:02]
marclaportehttp://profiles.tikiwiki.org/PrettyTracker
side menu or middle menu?
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SEWilco2Abraham Lincoln's profile?
Oh: Pretty Tracker. Shirley Temple, then.
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chibaguymarclaporte, what about a portfolio of images and related info?. I was thinking about trying trackers to contain theme information rather than making wiki pages.
Theme name, status, screenshot and thumb, author, license, etc.
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marclaportegreat idea!
sylvieg: : I can use wiki page name to associate, right?
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chibaguyIs there a tracker wikiplugin that could be used to show the thumbs in one wiki page?
....and link to the tracker item itself or something?
(I have no experience with the tracker wikiplugins.)
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marclaporteex.: wiki page "moreneat", which goes to the tracker and gets relevant info for the tracker (all meta-data about "moreneat" and it can be shown in the page (ex: author, etc) [15:11]
chibaguyYeah, and also a page that shows 8 or 10 thumbs at a time would be good. [15:11]
lphuberdeauchubaguy, in a few weeks, I should have reached the tracker plugins with the plugin UI [15:12]
chibaguySounds good. [15:15]
lphuberdeaushould make using the plugins a little easier [15:15]
chibaguyI haven't checked into what the plugin UI is all about yet. Is it for making new plugins? [15:16]
lphuberdeauinserting and editing plugins in pages
avoids having to deal with the weird syntax and parameter guessing
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chibaguyI see. [15:17]
lphuberdeauaccessible from plugin help for new insertion, and similar to section edit afterwards
might need to clear the cache to see it as that cache is mostly permanent and changes I make to the code don't affect old installs
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chibaguyTime to sleep here. Talk to you all later. [15:19]
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lphuberdeauhalf way around the world, sounds about the right time to sleep
hmm... why do we have a CENTER plugin when wiki syntax can do it?
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SEWilco2Oh, yeah, it is evening in Chiba Forest Time zone. [15:25]
marclaportelphuberdeau: : wiki syntax does't survive line breaks [15:30]
SEWilco2Argh. I hate having to rewrite code which makes sense. There's nothing to fix, so I have to solve the problem in a different way. [15:30]
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lphuberdeauwhat do we need the example plugin for?
don't we have enough samples to show?
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ricks99_y, but EXAMPLE does provide a very neat, clean, simple sample to get started ? [16:57]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14101 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/ (5 files): [MOD] More info functions [17:01]
MatWhohi, is there an easy way to stop just one page from appearing in the backlinks drop-down box on a Wiki page? Thanks.
That got you all thinking!! ;)
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lphuberdeauunlink it? [17:13]
MatWholphuberdeau: how do I do that? [17:14]
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MatWholphuberdeau: Hi again, sorry I did not understand your reply, how do I unlink [17:32]
lphuberdeauyou remove the link from the page
but really, I don't have a good answer to your question
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MatWholphuberdeau: OK, thanks anyway. [17:37]
lphuberdeauI so don't understand the purpose of user modules
it's just one more indirection to get the menu in the left/right columns and I don't get it
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ricks99_hi all.... how can i test the tiki's connection to @MAIL function?
i keep getting 'registration mail cannot be sent' msgs
log says 'mail error' but doesnt actually indicate what *kind* of error
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tomekkotthi, I'm trying to install tw 2.0rc4 on a host server, and testing out oracle connections. My question is how do I reset session variables? I am trying to start from the beginning of the install, and it seems to be picking up some database settings from somewhere else that I don't want. There is no db/local.php file, so where is it getting its information from? [17:53]
ricks99_try tiki-install.php?reset=y [17:55]
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franckricks99_: do you have the correct php libraries loaded? php-imap [17:56]
ricks99_@franck: i guess. how do i check? (using 2.0 from svn) [17:56]
franckricks99_: from your tiki-phpinfo.php, should tell you if it is loaded [17:57]
tomekkottricks99_ thanks, but no such luck. Before I was able to get to the database settings screeen, but this time it just throws an error on trying to fetch the tables... [17:57]
franckalso you need the path to sendmail correct in your php.ini [17:57]
ricks99_@franck: sendmail_path is set correctly
value appears correct
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franckand you can send a mail from the command line, just to make sure your mail is set up correctly on the machine [18:01]
ricks99_no command line access -- ftp only [18:02]
franckah
then they should have all pre-configured
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tomekkottnvmd, my webdav was simply not showing that there was, in fact, a local.php file
thanks
actually, one other question. Is there a way to set a higher debug level, showing more errors or somesuch while i'm doing the install. I'm just trying to trace from where a certain function (that fails) is called, or would I need to do that by hand?
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ricks99_@franck: i created a small test file that simply uses mail() function and it worked fine
nvr mind. duh... might help if i set the sender email properly..... <sigh>
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franckhehehe [18:14]
ricks99_* rick needs an auto-typo-fixer plugin for firefox [18:15]
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nickelodeonok this is a very strange issue - this morning we upgraded from tw 1.911 to tw 2.0...now whenever i try to put in a simple css style tag (eg, <td style="color:red">) an "<x>" gets inserted into the word style...eg "style" becomes "st<x>yle"
has anyone seen something like that before?
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francknickelodeon: yes, I think it is fixed in svn
nickelodeon: where was the problem, in blogs?
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nickelodeonevery page in the Wiki section
i had added the js_plugin, and the <x> got inserted into the onmouseover tag as well
so this is a known issue then?
franck - i actually haven't handled the install / configuration w the wiki - can you provide me w a link for downloading from SVN?
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franckcheck dev.tw.o [18:24]
ricks99_@nickeloden: dev.tikiwiki.org/download
links for pre-built zips at bottom of page
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nickelodeonricks99 - thanks - so i see the # Future 2.0.x (branches/2.0 from SVN) - is that the one i should use? [18:26]
ricks99_y. thats the 2.0 branch
Q: where is the default "site closed'" message created in the initial install? There's typo....
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nickelodeonthe thing is, I think the tiki 2.0 code was just recently downloaded [18:30]
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mlubinHello, I am on 1.9.11 and am trying to set up LDAP authentication. When I am in debug mode I get a success that the user has authenticed but when I enter back into regular mode and attempt to authenticate it tells me I have an invalid username and password. [19:06]
marclaporteIs there a way to mass change all trackers to another status? [19:12]
lphuberdeauupdate tiki_tracker_items set status = 'c' [19:13]
marclaporteLOL [19:20]
SEWilco2nickelodeon: I filed two bug reports on <x>...it's due to some protective input code. [19:26]
mlubinis there a way to modify my code to see why the user is not being authenticated, beyond just Username or Password invalid, like a debug switch to turn on? [19:29]
nickelodeonSEWIlco2 - thanks - have you seen this before? [19:40]
SEWilco2nickelodeon: Yes, I saw it several minutes before I filed my bug reports. A week or so ago. Devs are aware of <x>, but it's not easy to get rid of it. [19:41]
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nickelodeonHello, I just posted the following bug on tw.o - about user registration http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=1938 [20:07]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14103 /trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] Plugin UI link would get wiki-syntax parsed and cause UI breaks [20:24]
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lphuberdeaunickelodeon: no [20:32]
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nickelodeonis there any known issue with removing pages in 2.0? i am unable to remove pages en masse via the /tiki-listpages.php page, but can do so on a one by one basis [20:46]
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McStevehello people... I'm having search problems and I just upgraded to 1.9.11 and they are still there. If I search for the name of a page it won't show up in the results. If I search for some content that I know is on that page, it shows up 3-4 in the list instead of first... any ideas? [21:09]
lphuberdeauknown issue in 1.9.x
somewhat resolved in 2.x, but I don't know the details
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SEWilco2What is the name of the page? There are pr<x>oblems with certain strings. [21:13]
kerrnelSearch is sub-optimal in 1.9. [21:14]
McStevethe page name is 'host file'
is 2.x recommended for production use yet?
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lphuberdeaunot quite [21:14]
McSteveany suggestions? [21:14]
lphuberdeauone little show stopper at this time preventing the release
use google
only work around I know when site search is bad
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McStevebasically all of the search results or sub-optimal, big guys around here are complaining [21:15]
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lphuberdeauwon't be solved in 1.9, you're probably going to have less complaints if you disable it altogether
I have to run, good luck
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McStevethanks [21:18]
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sylviegnickelodeon: do you have the perms (are you log in when you use your batch - or is the batch setting tiki_p_admin_wiki at the beginning [21:42]
SEWilco2Google is not a workaround for non-public information. [21:44]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by nyloth :: r 14104 /trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] filegals: update some themes to behave as expected for sept_7's new file upload UI [21:48]
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nickelodeonsylvieg - is your question about user upload? [21:58]
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nickelodeonsylvieg - i am logged in as an admin when I try to upload users [21:59]
SEWilco2TikiSheet won't let me insert rows. Looks like it does it, then page refreshes with different URL and error " A SheetId is required." Yup, URL has no sheetId and has row insertion parameters. Adding &sheetId=1 does not help.
This is frustrating because I inserted rows when I created the sheet, so I know it sometimes works.
Aha, figured it out. A formula in some cells was confusing the thing. Changed to text and can now add rows.
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sylviegnickelodeon: no page deletion [22:16]
nickelodeonsylvieg - oh - yes i am logged in as an admin
is bulk page removal a special permission that needs to be configured separately in 2.0 or something? in 1.9.11 i had no problems doing it
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sylviegyou have tiki_p_admin - you have all the perm (excepot dsn perms...) [22:20]
nickelodeonthat's what i figured; basically i check all the boxes, i click the remove button, click confirm, and then the 25 "removed" pages are still all there...this is not, however, the case when i remove each one one by one [22:22]
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sylviegah! in the UI - I was thinking og your batch [22:29]
nickelodeonsylvieg correct - i am trying to delete the pages from the Wiki Page List Configuration link on the Admin menu, /tiki-listpages.php
sylvieg - but I am still trying to incorporate the remove_pages function into the batch_load_pages.php file as well :)
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sylviegseems mass deletion is broken since revision 8638
no 8866
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nickelodeonah i see - shall i file a bug report [22:41]
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nickelodeonsylvieg - also, i was unable to find the "remove_page" function you had recommended adding to the batch_load_pages script, but did find a s_remove_page function in libstructuresstructlib.php...however, this refers to structlib, and not tiki... [22:44]
sylviegi sent a message to nyloth it is not the correct way to add a confirmation step...
try this one $tikilib->remove_all_versions
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nickelodeonfor which, the batch_load_pages script? [22:45]
sylviegbatch [22:45]
nickelodeonsylvieg: Merci bien!! that worked like a charm
so then the bulk page removal from the UI will involve a code fix?
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sylviegit is a bug fix or a config of the ticket/confirm system
sylvieg leaving for 10 days of vacation on Friday - and ahve too much work
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franckStephane Casset? [23:59]

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