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franck: Who is Stephane Casset?
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amette: franck: he's sept_7
franck: amette: thanks, I hope my e-mail is enough for him
amette: franck: you're welcome - yeah, he's apparantly very fast with this stuff - question remains, if everything will be found
but well, let's see - I'll have to go to bed now
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kerrnel: Howdy
Has anyone used the user subscription tracker field before? Trying to figure out how to specify a max number of subscriptions
chibaguy: hi kerrnel, no idea on that one.
kerrnel: doc.tw.o says to use 50# to set the max number but it doesnt say where it should go and there's no option field.
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MatWho: hi is there a way to get new users assigned to a specific group, based on their selection in a user tracker during the registration process? Thanks.
kerrnel: Ah, figured it out, gotta edit the field
MatWho: Not yet, but I think Sylvie is working on something like that
sylvieg: kernel - did you check the doc - was pretty ggod last time I checked
kerrnel: sylvieg: yeah, it didn't occur to me that I had to edit the tracker
MatWho: kerrnel: thanks I will wait
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sylvieg: matwho is fast - this page is suuposed to answer otherwise fel free to improve http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=User%20tracker&structure=Documentation
:-(
why people quits so fast..
quit
kerrnel: energy drinks. :)
While you're here, have you noticed that some of the tracker type field help does not show up when editing tracker fields?
Like when you select date and time, it'll display a little help blurb to the left of it. I'm noticing that even though there's help for some options (like the user subscription), it doesn't get displayed for some reason
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kerrnel: Like, the entire block doesn't even appear in the page source, so it's being ignored or not loaded
sylvieg: what is the 'opt' => true|false function in the tracker types array?
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kerrnel: Found it.
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nightwork: hello
I am trying to set up a help-wiki for some software which my company is developing, and would like to set something up similar to Firefox 3.0's help file.
For each article they have a small check box at the bottom which asks did this article help you. After that there is two buttons one for "yes" and "no"
can anyone point me in the direction of how to do that?
dthacker: hmmmm
nightwork: yeah, I know. I'm not really sure where to start
dthacker: I'm a bit rusty right now, been away for six months. Are these wiki pages?
nightwork: yes the firefox help file is a wiki build on tikiwiki, or at least that is what I understand
dthacker: I think you are looking for the voting feature. Rummaging for a link.....
wrong name.
still rummaging.....
nightwork: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Firefox+Help?style_mode=inproduct
chibaguy: nightwork and dthacker, knoth wrote that up for mozilla but I'm not sure if it's available to us, or how.
nightwork: oh really? bummer
chibaguy: er, knoth -> nkoth
dthacker: nightwork: I have done something similar on doc.tw.org.
chibaguy: Quite a bit of adapting when into that site.
dthacker: huh? no logins a d.tw.o?
wierd
nightwork: I was hoping to use tikiwiki for the help file, that way many people can work on it, and the end user can be getting the most up todate help info
dthacker: nightwork: I think I did this with the "rating" feature. I created a poll for each page with yes/no answers.
nightwork: hmmm, that sounds good
I will start reading up on the rating feature
chibaguy: Seems like the files should be publically available, given that mozilla is open source.
dthacker: please ask on the dev list or in the forums if the mozilla yes/no box is available as plugin
It might save you some work.
nightwork: great idea, thank you
dthacker: and thanks for giving tikiwiki a try.
chibaguy: There is a rating feature. Maybe this is the basis for the mozilla box. I don't recall.
Seems like it was....
dthacker: nightwork: IIRC, the first time I implemented I only created one poll and attached it to several pages, muddling my results.
nightwork: I guess I would need a seperate poll for each page
is it possible to see the results for several polls at once?
chibaguy: https://svn.mozilla.org/projects/sumo/
nightwork: wow, that seems like a lot of information, but over my level of understanding.
perhaps after I start working on the help file, it will make more sense
dthacker: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Wiki+Config&bl=y#_Rating
chibaguy: Basically zero in on templates/themes/ . Check the .css file of the page that the rating box is on to find out which theme is being used.
The theme will have the same name. Then, comment.tpl holds the form IIRC, and maybe the rating box is included from there.
https://svn.mozilla.org/projects/sumo/trunk/templates/styles/
(themes = styles)
Oh, now that I see the FF page, it's changed from when I was involved.
(no comment form)
nightwork: well thank you both for your help. You have given me some place to start.
Im sure I will be hanging out in here much more often now
I really like the way that the FF help page looks.
It is very clean and user friendly.
chibaguy: A poll is used for the buttons
so check doc.tw.o on that. The rest is a matter of styling.
nightwork: okay, great.
I am going to be doing a lot of reading in the next few weeks
but that is half the fun I guess
chibaguy: good luck
nightwork: thanks
PS|bot: SVN: Commit by kerrnel22 :: r 14106 /trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [MOD] Improved (IMO) the layout and usefulness of the help text for trackers on the admin tracker fields page. They are a little more structured now, with clearer usage examples and easier to read.
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marclaporte: polom
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PS|bot: SVN: Commit by kerrnel22 :: r 14106 /trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [MOD] Improved (IMO) the layout and usefulness of the help text for trackers on the admin tracker fields page. They are a little more structured now, with clearer usage examples and easier to read.
SVN: Commit by nyloth :: r 14105 /trunk/templates/tiki-upload_file.tpl: [MOD] filegal: reduce width of gallery select
SVN: Commit by nyloth :: r 14104 /trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] filegals: update some themes to behave as expected for sept_7's new file upload UI
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PS|bot: SVN: Commit by chibaguy :: r 14107 /mods/trunk/themes/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [FIX] More specificity needed for override.
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luciash: polom polom
chibaguy: polomolop
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chibaguy: Uploading avatar doesn't seem to work in 2.0, unless I've got a local problem.
"image type: unknown, 0 x 0 pixels, file size: 13KB"
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chibaguy: I wonder if this is related to avatars currently not showing at tw.o.
bbl
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luciash: right, chibaguy, there's something broken with handling of images :(
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nightwork: I just wanted to say Tikiwiki is great.
I just got it up and running and am so happy
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shishir_gsoc: hello
How to enter " <div>Some text</div> " in middle of a wiki page using ajax in tikiwiki
Actually I am developing ANNOTATION wiki plugin
So I want to take some input from the user, but the input form should be visible only when user clicks a button to enter the data
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franck: marclaporte: oi!
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ThomasOwens: Good morning. I was looking at the TikiWiki docs, installed the software, and began looking at it. I want to create a little sandboxed community for a website, for use in developing content and such, while utilizing an existing database of users. Is this possible?
franck: sure
where is your existing database of users?
ThomasOwens: in a different database, in its own table.
franck: tikiwiki has many ways to authenticate...
ldap, imap, ....
ThomasOwens: AFAIK, we don't have those. We just perform a username/password check on a database table.
franck: is this db on the same machine?
ThomasOwens: yep.
franck: give me a sec
ThomasOwens: Thanks. I was looking for a guide to writing a plugin for authorization, since our db schema is custom, but I couldn't find one.
franck: read the code luke!
let me see what I find...
ThomasOwens: look at http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Login%20Authentication%20Methods&structure=Documentation
ThomasOwens: thanks. i'll start there.
franck: I think your best bet is pear:auth
http://pear.php.net/package/Auth
ThomasOwens: my second question is - Is there a guide to developing custom modules and plugins? I plan on looking at how some other ones are structured.
franck: for a wiki-plugin, it is easy, look for a very simple plugin, read the code and then extend it...
ThomasOwens: I was thinking a broader scoped blugin.
*plugin.
franck: pear:auth says all db supported by the pear db layer, so here you go...
ThomasOwens: That added another module.
I'm not talking about the login right now. I want to port existing data into TikiWiki.
franck: what do you mean by module? a module in tw is more like a menu
ThomasOwens: Such as a bibliographic database.
And provide functionality relating to that.
franck: ah...
well may be trackers are doing the job already
ThomasOwens: I saw wiki module help, but nothing on how to add a new, unique module.
shishir_gsoc: hello
How to enter " <div>Some text</div> " in middle of a wiki page using ajax in tikiwiki
ThomasOwens: But we have custom database schemas for a lot of stuff, and I want to preserve that data.
franck: yes because module is not the right word, in tw module is something different to what you want
ThomasOwens: ah.
shishir_gsoc: Actually I am developing ANNOTATION wiki plugin. So I want to take some input from the user, but the input form should be visible only when user clicks a button to enter the data
franck: ThomasOwens: Check trackers, the names is sometimes confusing, but this allows you to build simple databases
ThomasOwens: Ah. Thanks again. I'll start reading there. If I have more questions after I'm done reading the docs, I'll probably come back.
franck: yes... may be look in dev.tikiwiki.org
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franck: shishir_gsoc: sorry, look at a simple wiki-plugin....
and then after you can place in javascript in the plugin return...
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sylvieg: tiki-show_user_avatar.php check if feature_minichat is on??????
I understand that to check a feature is important ... but which one?
PS|bot: SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14111 /branches/2.0/templates/tiki-view_tracker_item.tpl: [FIX] to have dev.tw.o working with user selector with option email
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ricks99: hi all :)
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tomekkott: does anyone have an idea of a way to migrate mysql scripts (such as the ones found in db/tiki-2.0-mysql.sql) into oracle?
i know that it is already done for oci8, but i need to use the oracle driver in adodb
franck: tomekkott: there used to be a support for oracle....
but nobody to test and maintain... your chance...
to do it for the community
tomekkott: it appears to connect fine to the database, but then after install, it says 1450 sql queried failed
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tomekkott: well, i'm happy to do it, just the thought of going through 1450 sql queries by hand is a little daunting
and then having to do it any time the script changes :)
sylvieg: tomekkott: there is a convertscript in db/convertscripts/convertsqls.sh
tomekkott: sylvieg oooh must've missed that
i'll take a look, thanks!
sylvieg: I suppose you have to write a script like db/convertscripts/mysql3tooci8.php
tomekkott: hmm, wait, is that only in svn? I don't see it in my download
lphuberdeau: yeah, stripped out of release tarballs
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sylvieg: you acn find them http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/....
tomekkott: okie doke, thanks. I'll see what I can find
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PS|bot: SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14114 /trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [MOD]i18n: new option that forces the string to be in the same language of the page
SVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14115 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/ (3 files): [MOD] More info functions and removing useless plug-in
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lphuberdeau: quick suggestion: what would you think of removing smarty from our tree and making it an external link? would be easier to update
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nyloth: Hi all :)
sylvieg: hi
lphuberdeau: it is already in a svn module ... not sure of terminology
lphuberdeau: yes, but right now we use an external to our own repository
we could just have an external to their repository
when they make a release, all we have to do is point to the new tag... no need to download, replace files and commit
sylvieg: is there some path for install on free or something like this?
lphuberdeau: in fact, we could do that for all projects we use that also use svn
?
http://smarty-php.googlecode.com/svn/tags/Smarty_2_6_9/
that's their svn rep
sylvieg: nyloth: Do you pathc some lib to fit install on free.fr or somethinf like that
[FIX] fixes to make TikiWiki work on quite hostile environments (e.g. french ISP 'free.fr') where, for example, the path can't be modified (thx to Cyril Chaboisseau).
seems it is only in adodb and lib/pear
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nyloth: sylvieg: yes, I had to patch some libs (mainly adodb and pear, if I remember well) for path problems
sylvieg: and, happily, both are going to be removed from tiki ;p
sylvieg: (in tiki-pdo already)
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nyloth: lphuberdeau: I'm not sure (not against, but thining about it) it's a good idea to have external link to smarty svn or things like that. Well... I agree on the principle, it's very nice and no need to download, etc.... but in practice, we may have some problems with people making checkouts when other external svn are down. It may become inconsistent more easily (if our repo is down, there is simply nothing available). And when others will migrate to
lphuberdeau: true
I made a few tests and there is also a problem with there docs folder
it's huge and really not worth anything to us
nyloth: yes
I didn't thought about this, but true too :)
lphuberdeau: but most projects are either on SF or google, so the downtime is not really an issue to me
nyloth: it should not happen often, but it may be a problem. If there is a migration of an external repo and we both are not here to know how to quickly change the property, we may have problems (even with nightly build tarballs)
And in case of migrations, it's even worse because we will have to update URL of each tags/branches
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lphuberdeau: anyone using the jabber plug-in?
I think it deserves removal... not usable on default install
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kerrnel: Moo
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kerrnel: Someone mentioned stuff lph was working on to improve wikiplugin help. Can someone point me to an example?
nikhilodeon: Hi, I posted a bug on dev.tw.o - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=1938 - it involves an error I get when I either register or upload users from a csv - wondered if anyone had seen anything similar
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sylvieg: kerrnel:: svn up trunk and you will see
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lphuberdeau: might need to clear the cache to see the new plugin help
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PS|bot: SVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14117 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/ (3 files): [MOD] More info functions
kerrnel: Oh, I think I know what you're talking about now. Wasn't sure where you were referring me to look at.
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nikhilodeon: Hi, I posted a bug on dev.tw.o - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=1938 - it involves an error I get when I either register or upload users from a csv - wondered if anyone had seen anything similar
kerrnel: nik... taking a look
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nikhilodeon: kernel - ah ok; just making sure someone saw it - thanks!
kerrnel: nik: what are the column headings in your spreadsheet?
nikhilodeon: login, password, email, groups
kerrnel: Did you run the database upgrade script?
in the tiki_1.9to2.0.sql file there is a statement to change the "email_due" field to "email_confirm". If you didn't run that upgrade script, it wouldn't have made that change
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nikhilodeon: kernel: i will check with the sysadmin who did the upgrade
kernel: the thing is, i don't see the email_due *or* email_confirm field in the users_users table
sylvieg: nikhilodeon: is it 2.0 svn or 2.0 rc4
I fixed this in 2.0 trunk soem day ago
nikhilodeon: sylvieg: i believe it is 2.0 svn, but let me check
sylvieg: so rc4 would be broken still?
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kerrnel: yes
bug fixes for rc4 are in trunk
sylvieg: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/db/tiki_1.9to2.0.sql?r1=13851&r2=14051
I did in 2.0 because it was impossible to upgrade without this problem
PS|bot: SVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14118 /trunk/lib/ (34 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Make plugin UI optional and allow to disable plugins independantly
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zorp: hello
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kerrnel: Only thing I can see about email_confirm is ALTER TABLE users_users CHANGE email_due email_confirm int(14) default NULL; from 2007
I'm not familiar with the CHANGE function so I may have misinterpreted email_due changing to email_confirm, and instead if may change both to be int(14) default null.
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kerrnel: howdy zorp
zorp: :)
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lepei: here i am with a new problem.
for some tiki transactions, the url change and he forget a part of the url.
example :
zorp: has anyone had a chance to look att the code (regarding footnotes) I posted on the dev email list? Would anyone be interested at testing the function?
lepei: i am on this state : http://dmmh.i8.be//Wiki/tikiwiki-1.9.11/tiki-admin_modules.php#assign
lphuberdeau: zorp, I think it's a nice feature, feel free to commit and make it optional ;)
lepei: and when i clic on tiki-admin_modules.php?mc_up=quick_edit
the url becomes : http://wiki/tikiwiki-1.9.11/tiki-admin_modules.php?mc_up=quick_edit
as you can see : dmmh.i8.be// is gone
lphuberdeau: won't get fixed in 1.9.x
nikhilodeon: kernel, sylvie, - I actually didn't have email_due in the old table - the ALTER SQL statement couldn't find it...is it possible to just add the email_confirm field manually into the users_users table? will this break anything?
kerrnel: I wouldn't think so if it doesn't exist right now
dthacker: what is e2c with regards to hosting?
kerrnel: alter table users_users add email_confirm int(14) default NULL should do the trick
nikhilodeon: kernel - ok thanks i will give that a whirl
also is there an equivalent to MSSQL's "sp_help table" for mySQL, to get the column names for of a table?
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zorp: lphuberdeau - thanx
lphuberdeau - currently the code only activates if "{footnotes" is somewhere in the text. does it need to be more optional then that? If so, Im gonna need help with that
lphuberdeau: not really
that's the only change?
zorp: well - there is plenty of other code, but that is the conditional for the remaining of the codes to run
lphuberdeau: should be fine
commit will get reviewed anyway
zorp: come to think of it, I don't have commit access... so... hint hint for anyone feeling like commiting for me :)
kerrnel: nik: there is...let me look it up
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SEWilco2: zzz... A simple SELECT was taking between 0 and 30 seconds, so restarted MySQL in my server. Waiting for mysql_safe to stop using CPU so I can test more.
kerrnel: show columns from <tablename>
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kerrnel: can also use show full columns from <tablename>
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pujib: hi there! i've created a group in tikiwiki, set wiki page different from HomePage as home page for this group, created new user, set that group as default for him, but when i log as that user there is still old HomePage. what am i doing wrong?
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pujib: any suggestions?
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zorp: pujib - does it make a difference which page you log in from as the new user?
pujib: no, it doesn't
zorp: hmmm
sylvieg: pujib: in older tw version there were conflict sometimes between groups - and to the the grouop as the default group was the solution
pujib: i mean, it doesn't redirect me instantly to HomePage when i log in, e.g. if i select Stats as anonymous, i remain there after logon
what is wrong from my point is that when i press Home i don't get redirected to new HomePage for my default group
i use tw 1.9.11
sylvieg: sorry, didn't understand, what is the solution?
sylvieg: go to admin->users
and check that in ssign group for the user - the group is really the default group
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pujib: yes, it is really default group for that user
sylvieg: and in admin->general , the default homepage is wiki?
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pujib: yes
sylvieg: and in admin->general Go to group homepage only if login from default homepage: is not checked?
pujib: oops, i've found what was wrong - Use group homepages was unchecked
i checked and now it works
thanx for your assistance :)
the interface really could be more admin-friendly :)
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sylvieg: lphuberdeau: I was thinking that with the new plugin UI if you click on Insert - it will add the plugin in the textarea?
on my local it is doing nothing
lphuberdeau: calls the same function as quicktags stuff
there might be a dependency
getting any JS errors?
sylvieg: no nothing
for quicktag I have a code taginsert(...) for insert I have void(0) - I am on FF3
lepei: yep. here another prob with 1.9.11 :
lphuberdeau: sylvieg, the code is executed in the onclick, the href is just a stub
lepei: i defined a couple of modules. Activate 'user decide' for the right side and allways for the left side. 4 modules on the left, 2 on the right. Result : all modules stays on the left.
when i want to open the right column, a empty space appears
lphuberdeau: lepei, may be theme specific, but like most things in 1.9, it won't get fixed
lepei: theme is olive.css
lphuberdeau: try with others
mainly with the default one
lepei: i did it; but same result. what is the simpliest theme ?
lphuberdeau: never used 1.9
lepei: just a question : with all the problem i have, is it not beter to wait for version 2 ?????
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franck: polom
tomekkott: how long should the initial installation sql queries take to run on a fresh install in mysql?
seconds, minutes, hours?
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pujib: tomekkott: no more than a few minutes
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nikhilodeon: hi - when creating wiki plugins, it is essential to use the following syntax - function wikiplugin_xyz($data, $params), or can, eg function wikiplugin_xyz($firstvar, $secondvar) syntax be used?
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lphuberdeau: pop quiz: who knew tiki had a myspace plugin?
-: dthacker raises his hand. but he never goes to myspace
lepei: lphuberdeau>modules left or right side : it works now ! i changed all settings to 'nothing' in the 'user features', save, reset values, save. and it works with olive.css !
i suppose we do not have to understand wath's happened ?
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lepei: oups do not work again !
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SEWilco2: Hmm. My File Gallery SELECT which was taking 3 minutes? Restarted MySQL and now it's less than a second. Ick.
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tomekkott: here's another question, how big of a database do you need for a base install? 2MB nominally?
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Petjal2: Hi all. I'd like to have some simple navigation like ((DE-A| 1)) ((DE-B| 2 )) ((DE-C| 3 )) on the bottom of every page. I tried putting that in a Dynamic Content field, but the wiki wasn't rendered (I want to just see "1 2 3", but I saw all the parens and pipes). How do I include a standard block of rendered wiki text on every page? Thanks!
franck: Petjal2: create a menu, include it in a module and display it inside the wiki?
{MODULE()}
Petjal2: thanks, I'll try that!
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SEWilco2: Admin>Groups: tiki_p_edit_categorized has same description as tiki_p_edit_categories. *edit_categorized should be "Can edit categorized items."
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SEWilco2: Search works for admin; Registered users don't find stuff. Registered has tiki_p_search and tiki_p_view_file_gallery.
Oh, worse: Search works for Registered in v2.0RC4 but not in trunk.
sylvieg: which search tiki search or mysql search?
SEWilco2: Not "new" search. MySQL text search.
Oh. Registered search is working on stuff in Wiki, but not in File Galleries.
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Petjal2: franck: Thanks for the MODULE tip. Did you mean for me to actually create a Menu, or just my little link set nav? I did that latter, and it gives many blank lines above it, and the dashed line, and then a few blank lines, then my little nav set of links. Any ideas? Thanks again.
and it is only as wide as my theme css says a module can be, I guess.
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franck: Petjal2: well that was an idea to make it happen...
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franck: but yes you are constrained by the module settings, this is why I suggested a menu looks nicer and you can include the module in a {BOX(float=>left)}
Petjal2: the other way is to create a wiki template, so each time you create a page you use the template and it is pre-ready for you
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