#tikiwiki 2008-08-10,Sun

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lphuberdeau	well.. worked in plugin_ui before merging or cache is tricking me	[00:12]
nyloth	the best is to test with browser cache completely disabled	[00:15]
lphuberdeau	just did that, now it works in trunk I don't get it	[00:16]
nyloth	it does not work in trunk, I think it's again a cache problem (maybe not browser cache this time) Or did you changed a pref or something ?	[00:17]
lphuberdeau	FF on my computer keeps nothing from session to session... closed the browser, disabled cache from web dev extension just works in trunk	[00:17]
nyloth	yes, but tiki/smarty cache happily you saw the problem in trunk too (even if ou don't have it right now) :) (neither working here, nor on sept_7 laptop) Probably not that, but maybe check if disabling cache in webdev also don't use old cache that you may already have	[00:17]
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jcyrisse	heyas....need some help troubleshooting my image gallery after convertng to 2.0 my site is cytopathnet.org, you have to register to view the images but i am seeing corrupted images....thumbnails seem ok	[00:30]
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nyloth	jcyrisse: hi. Could you give a direct link to a page with problems ?	[00:35]
jcyrisse	k...sec	[00:35]
lphuberdeau	nyloth, might be breaking it, but those files are innocent... they really do nothing	[00:36]
jcyrisse	http://cytopathnet.org/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=1&sort_mode=created_desc&imageId=858&scalesize=o a lot of them, when i click on the thumbnail, no image even shows	[00:37]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: I understand your point of view, I would have said the same :) .... But you agree that the problem started after commit 13991, no ? lphuberdeau: well, no problem if you stop searching, I'll have to find the problem (or sept_7 will do)	[00:37]
jcyrisse	http://cytopathnet.org/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=1&offset=0	[00:38]
nyloth	jcyrisse: I'm able to see the image on the first link you sent	[00:39]
jcyrisse	is it clear though?	[00:40]
lphuberdeau	I have the feeling it's just a timing issue... it's loading a lot of files and fckeditor panics...	[00:40]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: If so, it's surprising that it only occurs since this commit and even on localhost on multiple computers	[00:42]
lphuberdeau	in tiki-jsplugin.php ... if I add die; on the very first line, before require of tiki-setup, it works if I put it after require, it breaks both have the same output	[00:43]
nyloth	jcyrisse: do you have some sort of http compression used (either setup in tiki, or due to server settings) ?	[00:43]
jcyrisse	hmmmm...dunno...i might.	[00:44]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: well, what do you suggest ? :)	[00:44]
jcyrisse	checking in admin area...	[00:44]
nyloth	jcyrisse: try to disable it, it may be related	[00:44]
lphuberdeau	just stating facts here	[00:44]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: sure, me too ;p	[00:45]
jcyrisse	nyloth: yes, gzipped compression checked...unchecking it	[00:45]
lphuberdeau	nyloth, on thing for sure... plugin help or wiki help is not required on that page that would solve the problem just added some caching... that works too	[00:47]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: that would solve it temporarily, yes. But there is an option to use wiki plugins inside wysiwyg... But ok to not investigate more right now. We should try to find the exact problem later, because it seems chaotic and may happen with any other modification...	[00:49]
jcyrisse	nyloth: well, cant tell that made any difference...but is it better to leave that off anyway?	[00:51]
nyloth	jcyrisse: I had some problems with compression, in the past, but it should have been fixed. It was just to test. jcyrisse: It seems tiki sends zero size images for an unknown reason. Do you forked some templates or do you use only official code ?	[00:52]
jcyrisse	nyloth: official code	[00:54]
lphuberdeau	patch should solve the problem now... does not make fck more robust thought oh, and I knew that code could not conflict ;) issue is probably based on when fck loading is triggered if triggered before the page is ready, it can cause that kind of problem should be moved onload if embeded in the body	[00:54]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: lol. We are not sure of the real cause yet, and there is js code conflicts between some well-known libraries as you know :) lphuberdeau: maybe	[00:55]
lphuberdeau	if you want to modify the onload property without actually modifying the header, there is some code doing that in wikiplugin_annotation	[00:56]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: ok, but I may wait until another problem like this, since I already have a huge todolist :)	[00:58]
lphuberdeau	don't we all ;)	[00:58]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: yes, I suppose :) jcyrisse: there is a button, in image galleries, to rebuild cache (thumbnails and so on)... maybe try this	[00:58]
jcyrisse	done that didnt help...and seems messed up....the thumbnails generated didn't belong to the image some images appear fine, others dont but when i rebuilt...it overwrote the images or at least it seemed to	[01:01]
nyloth	jcyrisse: no idea then. Images tat displays seem not very nice... are you using gd or imagick ?	[01:07]
jcyrisse	gd	[01:07]
nyloth	jcyrisse: do you have imagick installed ?	[01:07]
jcyrisse	oh man...i just rebuilt thumbnails....something really wrong cause now....they all look the same no...no imagick	[01:07]
nyloth	jcyrisse: it would have been nice to have imagick (better than gd)	[01:08]
jcyrisse	not sure if i can install on my host or not but i never had a problem before	[01:08]
nyloth	jcyrisse: do you store images in DB or on filesystem ?	[01:10]
jcyrisse	in a file system	[01:10]
nyloth	do you have an access to list files on the filesystem ? If so, could you try to remove all thumbnail files ? and check if you have empty files ? and be sure to have backups if not alreay done	[01:11]
jcyrisse	nyloth: yes....i have access. not sure what you mean about if i have empty files...guess you mean...kb's?	[01:15]
nyloth	jcyrisse: yes, files that are 0 kb jcyrisse: and you should try to delete files that ends with scaled_(something) or scale_(something)	[01:16]
jcyrisse	k...will give that a try	[01:17]
nyloth	jcyrisse: in fact, there is a plan to make image galleries obsolete in 3.0 and keep only filegalleries that should be more powerfull	[01:18]
jcyrisse	so, the files would include images, i am guessing?	[01:19]
nyloth	jcyrisse: yes	[01:19]
jcyrisse	nyloth: does filegalleries take images now?	[01:19]
nyloth	jcyrisse: you already have thumbnails view and a little slideshow in filegals of 2.0 jcyrisse: it should evolve and become a media gallery jcyrisse: and filegals are already usable for wiki images (by enabling the "filegal manager")	[01:19]
jcyrisse	nyloth: is filegal manager a module? where would i find that? nyloth: here is one of the really weird images, http://cytopathnet.org/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=1&imageId=608	[01:21]
nyloth	jcyrisse: it's a feature in admin > text area > Use File Galleries for images inclusion	[01:22]
jcyrisse	nyloth: ok...thanks...this is helpful info...especially about the image gallery nyloth: might as well start converting it now	[01:23]
nyloth	jcyrisse: if filegaleries are already ok for your needs, you can migrate manually, yes. There will be many enhancements to filegaleries for 3.0 that will be released in 8 months	[01:24]
lphuberdeau	speaking of release... anything stopping 2.0?	[01:25]
jcyrisse	nyloth: that sounds great...i am guessing things like for podcasts and the like?	[01:25]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: nothing important. I was planning to add a mimetype check to file indexation, tomorrow, to be sure images won't be indexed for search, which may take too much time. And also a little fix I have to commit on sanitization, but it works nearly the same without the fix, so no hurry. lphuberdeau: will you release tommorow ?	[01:27]
lphuberdeau	maybe well, can wait for those fixe +s	[01:27]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: ok for me. I will try to commit those two little fixes in the morning	[01:28]
lphuberdeau	isn't it already the morning for you?	[01:28]
nyloth	lol yes, but I need to sleep a bit before commiting on stable ;pp it's 3.30 am here	[01:28]
lphuberdeau	alright	[01:29]
nyloth	so, I'll probably commit around 10 am	[01:29]
lphuberdeau	I'll barely be home at that time, no worries	[01:29]
nyloth	ok	[01:29]
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nyloth	jcyrisse: yes, and I'll probably add more optionnal ajax enhancements jcyrisse: for your problems on images, well... I have no other clue right now (and will have to leave) jcyrisse: If possible (and not too private), you can send me by mail with a link to download a backup of your DB + code, and I'll try to reproduce the problem on my laptop and fix it asap jcyrisse: so, if this is ok for you, my mail is nyloth AT tikiwiki . org	[01:30]
jcyrisse	yes oops	[01:33]
marclaporte	polom	[01:33]
nyloth	hi marclaporte	[01:33]
jcyrisse	nyloth: so are the images supposed to have a thumbnail in the file gallery?	[01:34]
marclaporte	how are you doing?	[01:34]
nyloth	jcyrisse: yes, in the thumbnail view, and even in the list view when your mouse is over the name of the image marclaporte: fine, and you ? :)	[01:34]
marclaporte	: all good	[01:35]
jcyrisse	nyloth: i am not seeing it, here is another link, http://cytopathnet.org/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=208&display=y nyloth: not seeing the thumbnail	[01:35]
PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14138 /trunk/lib/setup/sanitization.php: [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/2.0 14111 to 14133	[01:37]
nyloth	jcyrisse: it seems your image lib is not well detected jcyrisse: could you try to modify a file ? jcyrisse: I can explain which php file to modify	[01:37]
jcyrisse	nyloth: yes	[01:39]
nyloth	jcyrisse: add this on line 18 of your lib/images/images.php : $detected_lib = 'gd'; is it better with this ?	[01:39]
jcyrisse	nyloth: sec...logging in to edit	[01:40]
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jcyrisse	nyloth: hmmmm....it appears that file already has that added	[01:49]
nyloth	jcyrisse: on line 18, it should not jcyrisse: but a bit above in a test, yes	[01:50]
jcyrisse	nyloth: ah...ok	[01:50]
nyloth	jcyrisse: you should place it just above if ($detected_lib != '') {	[01:50]
jcyrisse	nyloth: well, i dont see that made any difference :(	[01:54]
nyloth	jcyrisse: which version of gd do you have ? jcyrisse: if you send me a link to a backup, please also send me a copy of what is listed in your tiki-phpinfo.php when you go there as an admin jcyrisse: maybe you gd version is a bit too old, maybe there is a bug somewhere, hard to say yet	[01:55]
jcyrisse	nyloth: 2.1.9 nyloth: free type version, 2.0.34 compatible	[01:58]
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nyloth	jcyrisse: it should be ok. And which php version ?	[02:02]
jcyrisse	nyloth: 5.2.6	[02:04]
nyloth	jcyrisse: ok, strange... your gd version is very old compared to your php version...	[02:05]
jcyrisse	nyloth: k. i noticed, even avatars dont show up	[02:05]
nyloth	jcyrisse: try to upgrade you gd version, or, really better, to install imagick jcyrisse: but please, send me as much details as you can. It is surely possible to find a fix for this environement	[02:06]
jcyrisse	nyloth: ok...thank you so much...i may have to send to you later. but will also look at imagemagik...looks like it is installed on my host	[02:08]
PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14139 /trim/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Site would not get locked using ext/ssh2	[02:09]
jcyrisse	so, how would i change the point to that	[02:09]
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nyloth	jcyrisse: to make imagick work, you will have to remove the line I told you to insert on line 18 of lib/images/images.php	[02:10]
jcyrisse	nyloth: they say version 6.7	[02:10]
nyloth	jcyrisse: of imagick ?	[02:10]
jcyrisse	nyloth: 6.0.7 nyloth: yes	[02:10]
nyloth	jcyrisse: do you see it on tiki-phpinfo.php ?	[02:11]
jcyrisse	nyloth: no	[02:11]
nyloth	jcyrisse: then I don't know, it's like it is not installed for your php environment. Maybe you have to do something specific to your host	[02:12]
jcyrisse	nyloth: dont know....they say located in /usr/bin	[02:13]
nyloth	jcyrisse: yes, maybe you can use it as a command-line tool, but they did not installed the php extension jcyrisse: is it a debian host ?	[02:14]
jcyrisse	nyloth: no...dont think so...but i look in that directory, and there is nothing there...so i am thinking that they used to have it but now dont...i will contact support nyloth: i use hostmonster.com	[02:15]
nyloth	jcyrisse: ok, and for imagick, you should specifically ask to have it for php, not command-line tool jcyrisse: so, I leave now... you have my mail	[02:16]
jcyrisse	nyloth: ok	[02:17]
nyloth	good night all	[02:17]
jcyrisse	nyloth: thank you good night!	[02:17]
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nyloth	Hi all :)	[11:15]
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nyloth	lphuberdeau: around ?	[11:38]
yonixxx	Hi nyloth	[11:38]
nyloth	hi yonixxx :)	[11:38]
PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by nyloth :: r 14142 /branches/2.0/lib/setup/sanitization.php: [SEC] XSS sanitization: also handle 'lowsrc', 'codebase' and 'xmlns' html attributes + simplify one of the original regexp patterns SVN: Commit by nyloth :: r 14141 /branches/2.0/lib/search/refresh-functions.php: [FIX] filegals: quickfix to not index all files with fulltext (depending on their mimetypes) since it make filegals nearly unusable with binary/images files and tiki (non-mysql) fulltext search. SVN: Commit by nyloth :: r 14140 /branches/2.0/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] filegals: show a more correct max upload size info for file upload (follows commit revision 14096 from ricks), especially when using DB storage + fix most important uses of kbsize (units were wrong).	[11:38]
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nyloth	lphuberdeau: for me it's ok to release today, when you have time.	[12:49]
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lphuberdeau	nyloth, done with the last few fixes?	[15:30]
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nyloth	lphuberdeau: well, yes, I think it's quite ok now... there is always things that should be done (for example the problem with image galleries that someone reported here yesterday), but I think we should not wait and wait, instead we will never release ;) ... So, other things will either be for 2.1 or for 3.0 :) ... For me you have white card ;p	[17:25]
lphuberdeau	I would need some help with updating copyright and changelog	[17:26]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: No problem. Do I have to update copyright in all files ? with "2008" ?	[17:27]
lphuberdeau	no no just update the copyright.txt	[17:27]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: for changelog, I can update the changelog.txt file	[17:27]
lphuberdeau	you're not listed in ;)	[17:27]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: I don't care :) lphuberdeau: If it was only me, nobody would be listed nowhere ... just the community as a whole	[17:27]
lphuberdeau	well, that file is just a log of who worked on the project	[17:28]
nyloth	yep	[17:28]
lphuberdeau	protects the project in some way, because there is no way the licence can change unless all copyright holders agree and since there are over 100 copyright holders well...	[17:29]
nyloth	sure :)	[17:29]
lphuberdeau	update the changelog, I handle the copyright	[17:30]
nyloth	ok... do you know how to retrieve countries informations ?	[17:31]
lphuberdeau	not really	[17:31]
nyloth	well, btw I see this information is not available for everyone	[17:31]
lphuberdeau	point is mostly to list commiter names, then someone willing to find all the info can do it ;)	[17:32]
nyloth	and the link http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-community.php is broken	[17:32]
lphuberdeau	hmm	[17:32]
nyloth	ok lphuberdeau: for copyright, we should write a script to add new people to the file (for 3.0)	[17:32]
lphuberdeau	working on that right now writing a script is the only sensible way to retrieve the info	[17:34]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: yes, but I was thinking of a script to retrieve infos also from tw.o (like dates, country, ...)	[17:35]
lphuberdeau	oh, that will be incremental	[17:35]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: yes	[17:35]
lphuberdeau	for now I focus on digging the log	[17:35]
nyloth	(this is why I said for 3.0 ;) )	[17:36]
lphuberdeau	I can add it to the release script, which is 3.0 anyway, but I still use it to package 2.0 ;)	[17:36]
nyloth	yep	[17:36]
lphuberdeau	I'm pretty certain sourceforge hates me by now I spend half my days doing requests on svn	[17:38]
nyloth	lol admins are already in discussion with them to calm them ;p more seriously, I'm quite sure they even don't see this little activity, compared to the huge number of hosted projects :)	[17:38]
lphuberdeau	when I work on trim, I do checkouts every 15 min with release scripts, I keep digging history merge scripts too	[17:40]
nyloth	sf is sooo slow :/	[17:42]
lphuberdeau	and when we changed to svn, most thought it was fast	[17:43]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: no, really, svn is hugely faster than before for diffs and updates	[17:47]
lphuberdeau	part of it is because it dumps less junk, so your IO does not lag	[17:48]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: but sf is slow whatever the service is (cvs or svn) lphuberdeau: well, for diffs between you last local modifications and your last update, it's only on client-side (cvs was doing it server side)... and updates are faster because it has a unique referential (revision) instead of a version for each files	[17:48]
lphuberdeau	also true simple version check makes it easy ;)	[17:50]
nyloth	sure :) so, changelog is up-to-date	[17:50]
lphuberdeau	good	[17:51]
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lphuberdeau	ok.. sf is absurdly slow today	[18:33]
nyloth	yes :)	[18:34]
lphuberdeau	doing the release takes extremely long	[18:34]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: about plugins syntax, there is currently two supported ways : {PLUGIN(param=>value)} and {PLUGIN(param=value)}. I propose that you display the second one instead of the first one, because it's better (to use them in HTML content for example).	[18:45]
lphuberdeau	hum... didn't know of the second one	[18:46]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: a lot of plugin help was written with the second one. If you take an old version, you will see it was already the case for TRACKER, TAG, TRACKERITEMFIELD, etc.	[18:47]
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nyloth	lphuberdeau: in fact, the second one was intended to replace the first one	[18:47]
lphuberdeau	oh	[18:48]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: I think sylvie started to use the second one for plugins help on which she has worked	[18:48]
lphuberdeau	I just used the one I saw	[18:49]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: the first one add nothing, but uses '>' which is not a very nice choice of delimiter	[18:49]
lphuberdeau	can now be changed in a single file	[18:49]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: yes, that's nice now :)	[18:49]
lphuberdeau	I still have a few to transition, but will be done in time	[18:51]
nyloth	ok	[18:51]
lphuberdeau	just happens to be extremely boring work, so I do it piece by piece	[18:52]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: I can imagine :)	[18:52]
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lphuberdeau	tarballs to test: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/tikirel/ oh, these are the pre release tarballs for the official 2.0 release ... testing is important	[19:11]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: strange, I didn't noticed that doc/devtools was removed from branch 2.0. Is it due to the release scripts ?	[19:19]
lphuberdeau	always been removed from releases	[19:19]
nyloth	ok, didn't noticed it before lphuberdeau: but it includes sqlupgrade.sh ...	[19:19]
lphuberdeau	not my call but really, I doubt those scripts are used by people downloading tarballs	[19:21]
nyloth	don't know, we will probably have feedback if they were used ;p	[19:22]
lphuberdeau	has been like that for years tikirelease.sh does that	[19:22]
nyloth	ok	[19:24]
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pujib	hi! where can i ask questions about 2.0rc4?	[19:27]
lphuberdeau	might want to try the final release pre release tarballs are available for test http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/tikirel/	[19:27]
pujib	yes, already tried, but tiki2.0 seems much prettier :)	[19:28]
lphuberdeau	final release of 2.0	[19:28]
pujib	this is rc4 with some bugs fixed?	[19:29]
lphuberdeau	yes	[19:29]
pujib	thanks, will try	[19:29]
lphuberdeau	tell me if you make it to install nyloth, did it work for you?	[19:43]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: wait 5 min, just doing a bit more test cases...	[19:44]
lphuberdeau	thanks	[19:44]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: weird, reallly weird :( lphuberdeau: the fresh install works fine, the upgrade of 1.10 and of 1.9.11 too... but if you had image galleries in 1.9.11 (at least when stored on filesystem), they are completely dead in 2.0. Thumbnails are randomly made...	[19:46]
lphuberdeau	?	[19:48]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: so, no problem with install, but... a major problem with image galleries lphuberdeau: there was a guy yesterday that had this exact problem. I wanted to test and it's reproductible	[19:48]
lphuberdeau	is it an easy fix?	[19:49]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: I installed a fresh new 1.9.11, enabled image galleries, uploaded 5 or 6 images in a new gallery, set the storage on filesystem, and upgraded to 2.0 .... very bad result lphuberdeau: don't know, I'm not sure yet of what is causing this. Maybe not due to upgrade but to broken feature in 2.0 ? The problem is that I'm not using imagegals (only filegals)... I can investigate, but it would be nice if you have some time to help finding the bug :) lphuberdeau: btw, I'm looking at it right now. I propose to decide what to do in an hour maximum lphuberdeau: is it ok for you ?	[19:49]
lphuberdeau	never used em either...	[19:53]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: ok, if you want to do some tests for other features / install cases, don't hesitate... I will give you feedback on this problem asap	[19:54]
lphuberdeau	would be good to have someone using them to help out	[19:55]
PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14154 /trunk/ (12 files in 6 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/2.0 14133 to 14152	[19:55]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: not sure. Happily everything is fine on filesystem... So, if we are lucky, it's just a small bug	[19:56]
lphuberdeau	enabling the feature...	[19:56]
	did you try rebuild thumbnails?	[20:01]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: yes, sure lphuberdeau: thumbnails are changing randomly	[20:01]
lphuberdeau	seems to work ok with new data	[20:02]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: ok, so probably related to the upgrade. Maybe the format has changed, or something like that ?	[20:03]
lphuberdeau	no idea	[20:03]
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nyloth	lphuberdeau: I have a clue... more info in some minutes	[20:10]
lphuberdeau	ok	[20:10]
..... (idle for 22mn)
Jyhem	tikiwiki.org seems to be in the process of being reinstalled ???	[20:32]
lphuberdeau	never heard of that	[20:33]
Jyhem	one moment I was looking at how ricks99 comments could belong to INSTALL file, the next i see messages about missing permissions weird the site looks OK, until I go to tikiwiki.org/Installation and then i's TikiWiki is not properly set up: The directory '/home/tyc5/public_html/clean/tiki/backups' is not writeable by apache. and so on	[20:35]
lphuberdeau	that looks like the page content...	[20:39]
Jyhem	that was the page content half an hour ago:	[20:42]
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Jyhem	http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:vM_l4N2hy_0J:tikiwiki.org/InstallTiki+tikiwiki.org/Installation&hl=fr&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=fr	[20:42]
amette	polom	[20:43]
***	ChanServ sets mode: +o amette amette changes topic to: Welcome to TikiWiki! - Just ask, don't ask to ask !!! - Support only for stable 1.9.11 - TikiWiki 2.0rc4 is available for testing at http://tinyurl.com/56df5e - Don't paste code/errors here, use http://sh.nu/p - IRC-logging at http://irc.tikiwiki.org - Thanks and have fun! :)	[20:44]
nyloth	hi amette	[20:44]
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amette	hi nyloth :) you guys are really busy with tiki lately - great to see all those commits! :)	[20:44]
Jyhem	hi amette	[20:46]
amette	hi Jyhem :) the wine is excellent btw :) amette just opened it up :) thanks again :)	[20:47]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: I've just commited something that should fix problems... could you just try it on your fresh install to see if it breaks nothing for you ?	[20:49]
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lphuberdeau	updating	[20:51]
nyloth	ok	[20:52]
lphuberdeau	all good re-doing the pre tarballs	[20:56]
nyloth	ok lphuberdeau: and I confirm, the problem was in 2.0 even on fresh install, but when storing galeries on filesystem	[20:57]
lphuberdeau	missed that option	[21:00]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: the problem was there since nearly 3 months (revision 12816)	[21:03]
lphuberdeau	1000+ commits in 3 months? :)	[21:09]
nyloth	yes amazing :)	[21:09]
amette	amette gave up trying to read them all :)	[21:10]
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yay	to	[21:19]
nyloth	...._ P	[21:20]
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nyloth	lphuberdeau: still alive ? ;p	[21:38]
lphuberdeau	fell asleep while files were uploading new tarballs are up	[21:41]
nyloth	ok :) lphuberdeau: maybe send the URL again to be sure everyone here will test the 2.0 tarballs before the final release :)	[21:42]
lphuberdeau	http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/tikirel/	[21:44]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: ok for me, I've tested .tar.bz2 as well for a fresh new install or for an upgrade + checked secdb. Everything seems to work quite well :)	[21:51]
lphuberdeau	good :)	[21:52]
nyloth	now we have to hope that it will be ok for others too (amette, Jyhem, ...) ;)	[21:52]
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nyloth	lphuberdeau: not important enough to make new tarballs (in my opinion), but we forgot my last fix in changelog	[21:54]
lphuberdeau	oh, yeah, no new tarballs for that you'll get credit in the next release ;)	[21:55]
nyloth	lol, don't care of credits :)	[21:56]
lphuberdeau	I know	[21:56]
amette	sorry, busy right now, but will test in the upcoming days... is there a final release scheduled already? Sounds like you guys are confident about this being pretty much the last pre-release tarball!?	[21:56]
nyloth	amette: there is a final release schedule : now()	[21:57]
amette	oh :P	[21:57]
nyloth	:)	[21:57]
amette	well, then, uhm...	[21:58]
nyloth	marclaporte: around ?	[21:58]
amette	damn... I don't wanna carry that wiki-rel-link regression into 2.0.... luciash: how is that rel-link currently - I'm not totally up-to-date on that one - is the fix good/ok/usable?	[21:59]
nyloth	amette: there is another syntax for the img tag : lnk= amette: I think you should try	[22:00]
amette	nyloth: I mean the [http://example.com\|example\|reltypehere\|nocache] classic wiki-link ah, yes, I saw that lnk= commit, didn't try yet though...	[22:01]
nyloth	amette: oh ok, I thought you was speaking about sanit' amette: no idea for the other thing	[22:01]
amette	amette dug himself out under loads of stuff in the last weeks and starts to see light at the end of the tunnel now... ;)	[22:01]
nyloth	bbl (need to get some drink)	[22:02]
amette	I think that the current way is ok, but I would prefer [http://example.com\|example\|rel=reltypehere\|nocache] - and that can't be done in 3.0, if we release 2.0 now like that... (drawback of short release cycles.. ;) )...	[22:02]
lphuberdeau	amette, too late for any changes in 2.0	[22:03]
amette	... currently the only obvious drawback is that you can't use "nocache" as the rel-type.. lphuberdeau: I know :-/ then lets go for it...	[22:03]
lphuberdeau	waiting for 2 more tarball tests	[22:04]
amette	which ones need testing still?	[22:05]
lphuberdeau	I know they all extract correctly nyloth did bz2	[22:06]
amette	amette getting gz	[22:06]
lphuberdeau	I did them all, but I don't count	[22:06]
amette	ok, succesful fresh install from tar.gz on Apache 2.2.9, MySQL 5.0.60 and PHP 5.2.6-pl2-gentoo - everything up and running, going to click through the stuff...	[22:13]
lphuberdeau	only missing a test on zip then	[22:14]
amette	ah, nice, the installer even realizes that the admin-password was changed already :)	[22:15]
Jyhem	did the corrected INSTALL file get into the tarball ?	[22:18]
lphuberdeau	I did not change that not in the release procedure	[22:19]
Jyhem	I committed it 1 hour ago. The one before gave obsolete instructions even in an 1.9 context :-(	[22:20]
lphuberdeau	that was probably after packaging	[22:21]
Jyhem	New testers look at INSTALL files (I noticed when i was looking over the shoulders of some)	[22:22]
lphuberdeau	I need to repackage for the release anyway, so txt file change will be in	[22:27]
Jyhem	good	[22:31]
amette	all seems to work, secdb is ok... I'd give green light	[22:37]
nyloth	back	[22:42]
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nyloth	lphuberdeau: so, what'up ? :)	[22:51]
lphuberdeau	officially still missing 1 ;)	[22:51]
nyloth	oh... nobody here to test the tarball ? Jyhem ? tomb__: ? lphuberdeau: do you know where marclaporte is ?	[22:52]
lphuberdeau	hiding?	[22:55]
nyloth	:) lphuberdeau: do we have a timeout for tarballs tests ?	[22:55]
lphuberdeau	not if I rollback any commit made on branches/2.0	[22:59]
nyloth	sure	[23:00]
lphuberdeau	but ideally I can tag/make final packages soon so need one more test	[23:00]
nyloth	bbl	[23:04]
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nyloth	lphuberdeau: about TikiObjects, did you wrote a proposal somewhere ?	[23:14]
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nyloth	lphuberdeau: I really hope we will be able to have them soon, since it is a blocker for some important features I need	[23:15]
lphuberdeau	on dev, and I have a few more notes I need to clean up but I don't intend on making this for 3.0	[23:15]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: I think we can help. It's quite important for me to have them in 3.0	[23:16]
lphuberdeau	many issues to consider before jumping in code only way I know of considering ideas is to let them rest and there is only so much time I can allocate to this	[23:17]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: well, there is no need to rest too much. We also need to brainstorm and discuss on the basis of a document	[23:18]
lphuberdeau	part of it is on http://dev.tikiwiki.org/TikiObject	[23:19]
nyloth	lphuberdeau: we just need to agree on something. After, even if you participate less in the development, we can make things happen :) ok, thanx.	[23:19]
lphuberdeau	but there are still issues to solve in terms of caching, selective fetching and quite a few other things	[23:22]
nyloth	ok, I'll seee if sept_7 and me could work a bit on this document too just keep it up-to-date if you have other infos to put in it sadly there is some developments that are in stand-by just because of a lack of tikiobjects so... I'll have to go now... see you later	[23:23]
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