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   lphuberdeau: well.. worked in plugin_ui before merging
   <br> or cache is tricking me
   nyloth: the best is to test with browser cache completely disabled
   lphuberdeau: just did that, now it works in trunk
   <br> I don't get it
   nyloth: it does not work in trunk, I think it's again a cache problem (maybe not browser cache this time)
   <br> Or did you changed a pref or something ?
   lphuberdeau: FF on my computer keeps nothing from session to session... closed the browser, disabled cache from web dev extension
   <br> just works in trunk
   nyloth: yes, but tiki/smarty cache
   <br> happily you saw the problem in trunk too (even if ou don't have it right now) :)
   <br> (neither working here, nor on sept_7 laptop)
   <br> Probably not that, but maybe check if disabling cache in webdev also don't use old cache that you may already have
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   jcyrisse: heyas....need some help troubleshooting my image gallery after convertng to 2.0
   <br> my site is cytopathnet.org, you have to register to view the images
   <br> but i am seeing corrupted images....thumbnails seem ok
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   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: hi. Could you give a direct link to a page with problems ?
   jcyrisse: k...sec
   lphuberdeau: nyloth, might be breaking it, but those files are innocent... they really do nothing
   jcyrisse: http://cytopathnet.org/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=1&amp;sort_mode=created_desc&amp;imageId=858&amp;scalesize=o
   <br> a lot of them, when i click on the thumbnail, no image even shows
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: I understand your point of view, I would have said the same :) .... But you agree that the problem started after commit 13991, no ?
   <br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: well, no problem if you stop searching, I'll have to find the problem (or sept_7 will do)
   jcyrisse: http://cytopathnet.org/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=1&amp;offset=0
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: I'm able to see the image on the first link you sent
   jcyrisse: is it clear though?
   lphuberdeau: I have the feeling it's just a timing issue... it's loading a lot of files and fckeditor panics...
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: If so, it's surprising that it only occurs since this commit and even on localhost on multiple computers
   lphuberdeau: in tiki-jsplugin.php ... if I add die; on the very first line, before require of tiki-setup, it works
   <br> if I put it after require, it breaks
   <br> both have the same output
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: do you have some sort of http compression used (either setup in tiki, or due to server settings) ?
   jcyrisse: hmmmm...dunno...i might.
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: well, what do you suggest ? :)
   jcyrisse: checking in admin area...
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: try to disable it, it may be related
   lphuberdeau: just stating facts here
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: sure, me too ;p
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: yes, gzipped compression checked...unchecking it
   lphuberdeau: nyloth, on thing for sure... plugin help or wiki help is not required on that page
   <br> that would solve the problem
   <br> just added some caching... that works too
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: that would solve it temporarily, yes. But there is an option to use wiki plugins inside wysiwyg... But ok to not investigate more right now. We should try to find the exact problem later, because it seems chaotic and may happen with any other modification...
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: well, cant tell that made any difference...but is it better to leave that off anyway?
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: I had some problems with compression, in the past, but it should have been fixed. It was just to test.
   <br> <u>jcyrisse</u>: It seems tiki sends zero size images for an unknown reason. Do you forked some templates or do you use only official code ?
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: official code
   lphuberdeau: patch should solve the problem now... does not make fck more robust thought
   <br> oh, and I knew that code could not conflict ;)
   <br> issue is probably based on when fck loading is triggered
   <br> if triggered before the page is ready, it can cause that kind of problem
   <br> should be moved onload if embeded in the body
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: lol. We are not sure of the real cause yet, and there is js code conflicts between some well-known libraries as you know :)
   <br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: maybe
   lphuberdeau: if you want to modify the onload property without actually modifying the header, there is some code doing that in wikiplugin_annotation
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: ok, but I may wait until another problem like this, since I already have a huge todolist :)
   lphuberdeau: don't we all ;)
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: yes, I suppose :)
   <br> <u>jcyrisse</u>: there is a button, in image galleries, to rebuild cache (thumbnails and so on)... maybe try this
   jcyrisse: done that
   <br> didnt help...and seems messed up....the thumbnails generated didn't belong to the image
   <br> some images appear fine, others dont
   <br> but when i rebuilt...it overwrote the images
   <br> or at least it seemed to
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: no idea then. Images tat displays seem not very nice... are you using gd or imagick ?
   jcyrisse: gd
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: do you have imagick installed ?
   jcyrisse: oh man...i just rebuilt thumbnails....something really wrong
   <br> cause now....they all look the same
   <br> no...no imagick
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: it would have been nice to have imagick (better than gd)
   jcyrisse: not sure if i can install on my host or not
   <br> but i never had a problem before
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: do you store images in DB or on filesystem ?
   jcyrisse: in a file system
   nyloth: do you have an access to list files on the filesystem ?
   <br> If so, could you try to remove all thumbnail files ? and check if you have empty files ?
   <br> and be sure to have backups if not alreay done
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: yes....i have access.  not sure what you mean about if i have empty files...guess you mean...kb's?
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: yes, files that are 0 kb
   <br> <u>jcyrisse</u>: and you should try to delete files that ends with scaled_(something)
   <br> or scale_(something)
   jcyrisse: k...will give that a try
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: in fact, there is a plan to make image galleries obsolete in 3.0 and keep only filegalleries that should be more powerfull
   jcyrisse: so, the files would include images, i am guessing?
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: yes
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: does filegalleries take images now?
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: you already have thumbnails view and a little slideshow in filegals of 2.0
   <br> <u>jcyrisse</u>: it should evolve and become a media gallery
   <br> <u>jcyrisse</u>: and filegals are already usable for wiki images
   <br> (by enabling the "filegal manager")
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: is filegal manager a module? where would i find that?
   <br> <u>nyloth</u>: here is one of the really weird images, http://cytopathnet.org/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=1&amp;imageId=608
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: it's a feature in admin &gt; text area &gt; Use File Galleries for images inclusion
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: ok...thanks...this is helpful info...especially about the image gallery
   <br> <u>nyloth</u>: might as well start converting it now
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: if filegaleries are already ok for your needs, you can migrate manually, yes. There will be many enhancements to filegaleries for 3.0 that will be released in 8 months
   lphuberdeau: speaking of release... anything stopping 2.0?
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: that sounds great...i am guessing things like for podcasts and the like?
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: nothing important. I was planning to add a mimetype check to file indexation, tomorrow, to be sure images won't be indexed for search, which may take too much time. And also a little fix I have to commit on sanitization, but it works nearly the same without the fix, so no hurry.
   <br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: will you release tommorow ?
   lphuberdeau: maybe
   <br> well, can wait for those fixe
   <br> +s
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: ok for me. I will try to commit those two little fixes in the morning
   lphuberdeau: isn't it already the morning for you?
   nyloth: lol yes, but I need to sleep a bit before commiting on stable ;pp
   <br> it's 3.30 am here
   lphuberdeau: alright
   nyloth: so, I'll probably commit around 10 am
   lphuberdeau: I'll barely be home at that time, no worries
   nyloth: ok
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   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: yes, and I'll probably add more optionnal ajax enhancements
   <br> <u>jcyrisse</u>: for your problems on images, well... I have no other clue right now (and will have to leave)
   <br> <u>jcyrisse</u>: If possible (and not too private), you can send me by mail with a link to download a backup of your DB + code, and I'll try to reproduce the problem on my laptop and fix it asap
   <br> <u>jcyrisse</u>: so, if this is ok for you, my mail is nyloth AT tikiwiki . org
   jcyrisse: yes
   <br> oops
   marclaporte: polom
   nyloth: hi marclaporte
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: so are the images supposed to have a thumbnail in the file gallery?
   marclaporte: how are you doing?
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: yes, in the thumbnail view, and even in the list view when your mouse is over the name of the image
   <br> <u>marclaporte</u>: fine, and you ? :)
   marclaporte: : all good
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: i am not seeing it, here is another link, http://cytopathnet.org/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=208&amp;display=y
   <br> <u>nyloth</u>: not seeing the thumbnail
   PS|bot: SVN:  Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14138 /trunk/lib/setup/sanitization.php: [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/2.0 14111 to 14133
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: it seems your image lib is not well detected
   <br> <u>jcyrisse</u>: could you try to modify a file ?
   <br> <u>jcyrisse</u>: I can explain which php file to modify
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: yes
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: add this on line 18 of your lib/images/images.php :
   <br> $detected_lib = 'gd';
   <br> is it better with this ?
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: sec...logging in to edit
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   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: hmmmm....it appears that file already has that added
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: on line 18, it should not
   <br> <u>jcyrisse</u>: but a bit above in a test, yes
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: ah...ok
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: you should place it just above if ($detected_lib != '') {
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: well, i dont see that made any difference :(
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: which version of gd do you have ?
   <br> <u>jcyrisse</u>: if you send me a link to a backup, please also send me a copy of what is listed in your tiki-phpinfo.php when you go there as an admin
   <br> <u>jcyrisse</u>: maybe you gd version is a bit too old, maybe there is a bug somewhere, hard to say yet
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: 2.1.9
   <br> <u>nyloth</u>: free type version, 2.0.34 compatible
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   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: it should be ok. And which php version ?
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: 5.2.6
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: ok, strange... your gd version is very old compared to your php version...
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: k. i noticed, even avatars dont show up
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: try to upgrade you gd version, or, really better, to install imagick
   <br> <u>jcyrisse</u>: but please, send me as much details as you can. It is surely possible to find a fix for this environement
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: ok...thank you so much...i may have to send to you later. but will also look at imagemagik...looks like it is installed on my host
   PS|bot: SVN:  Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14139 /trim/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Site would not get locked using ext/ssh2
   jcyrisse: so, how would i change the point to that
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   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: to make imagick work, you will have to remove the line I told you to insert on line 18 of lib/images/images.php
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: they say version 6.7
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: of imagick ?
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: 6.0.7
   <br> <u>nyloth</u>: yes
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: do you see it on tiki-phpinfo.php ?
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: no
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: then I don't know, it's like it is not installed for your php environment. Maybe you have to do something specific to your host
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: dont know....they say located in /usr/bin
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: yes, maybe you can use it as a command-line tool, but they did not installed the php extension
   <br> <u>jcyrisse</u>: is it a debian host ?
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: no...dont think so...but i look in that directory, and there is nothing there...so i am thinking that they used to have it but now dont...i will contact support
   <br> <u>nyloth</u>: i use hostmonster.com
   nyloth: <u>jcyrisse</u>: ok, and for imagick, you should specifically ask to have it for php, not command-line tool
   <br> <u>jcyrisse</u>: so, I leave now... you have my mail
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: ok
   nyloth: good night all
   jcyrisse: <u>nyloth</u>: thank you
   <br> good night!
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   nyloth: Hi all :)
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   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: around ?
   yonixxx: Hi nyloth
   nyloth: hi yonixxx :)
   PS|bot: SVN:  Commit by nyloth :: r 14142 /branches/2.0/lib/setup/sanitization.php: [SEC] XSS sanitization: also handle 'lowsrc', 'codebase' and 'xmlns' html attributes + simplify one of the original regexp patterns
   <br> SVN:  Commit by nyloth :: r 14141 /branches/2.0/lib/search/refresh-functions.php: [FIX] filegals: quickfix to not index all files with fulltext (depending on their mimetypes) since it make filegals nearly unusable with binary/images files and tiki (non-mysql) fulltext search.
   <br> SVN:  Commit by nyloth :: r 14140 /branches/2.0/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] filegals: show a more correct max upload size info for file upload (follows commit revision 14096 from ricks), especially when using DB storage + fix most important uses of kbsize (units were wrong).
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   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: for me it's ok to release today, when you have time.
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   nyloth: bbl
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   lphuberdeau: nyloth, done with the last few fixes?
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   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: well, yes, I think it's quite ok now... there is always things that should be done (for example the problem with image galleries that someone reported here yesterday), but I think we should not wait and wait, instead we will never release ;) ... So, other things will either be for 2.1 or for 3.0 :) ... For me you have white card ;p
   lphuberdeau: I would need some help with updating copyright and changelog
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: No problem. Do I have to update copyright in all files ? with "2008" ?
   lphuberdeau: no no
   <br> just update the copyright.txt
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: for changelog, I can update the changelog.txt file
   lphuberdeau: you're not listed in ;)
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: I don't care :)
   <br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: If it was only me, nobody would be listed nowhere ... just the community as a whole
   lphuberdeau: well, that file is just a log of who worked on the project
   nyloth: yep
   lphuberdeau: protects the project in some way, because there is no way the licence can change unless all copyright holders agree
   <br> and since there are over 100 copyright holders well...
   nyloth: sure
   <br> :)
   lphuberdeau: update the changelog, I handle the copyright
   nyloth: ok... do you know how to retrieve countries informations ?
   lphuberdeau: not really
   nyloth: well, btw I see this information is not available for everyone
   lphuberdeau: point is mostly to list commiter names, then someone willing to find all the info can do it ;)
   nyloth: and the link http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-community.php is broken
   lphuberdeau: hmm
   nyloth: ok
   <br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: for copyright, we should write a script to add new people to the file (for 3.0)
   lphuberdeau: working on that right now
   <br> writing a script is the only sensible way to retrieve the info
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: yes, but I was thinking of a script to retrieve infos also from tw.o (like dates, country, ...)
   lphuberdeau: oh, that will be incremental
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: yes
   lphuberdeau: for now I focus on digging the log
   nyloth: (this is why I said for 3.0 ;) )
   lphuberdeau: I can add it to the release script, which is 3.0 anyway, but I still use it to package 2.0 ;)
   nyloth: yep
   lphuberdeau: I'm pretty certain sourceforge hates me by now
   <br> I spend half my days doing requests on svn
   nyloth: lol
   <br> admins are already in discussion with them to calm them ;p
   <br> more seriously, I'm quite sure they even don't see this little activity, compared to the huge number of hosted projects :)
   lphuberdeau: when I work on trim, I do checkouts every 15 min
   <br> with release scripts, I keep digging history
   <br> merge scripts too
   nyloth: sf is sooo slow :/
   lphuberdeau: and when we changed to svn, most thought it was fast
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: no, really, svn is hugely faster than before for diffs and updates
   lphuberdeau: part of it is because it dumps less junk, so your IO does not lag
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: but sf is slow whatever the service is (cvs or svn)
   <br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: well, for diffs between you last local modifications and your last update, it's only on client-side (cvs was doing it server side)... and updates are faster because it has a unique referential (revision) instead of a version for each files
   lphuberdeau: also true
   <br> simple version check makes it easy ;)
   nyloth: sure :)
   <br> so, changelog is up-to-date
   lphuberdeau: good
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   lphuberdeau: ok.. sf is absurdly slow today
   nyloth: yes :)
   lphuberdeau: doing the release takes extremely long
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: about plugins syntax, there is currently two supported ways : {PLUGIN(param=&gt;value)} and {PLUGIN(param=value)}. I propose that you display the second one instead of the first one, because it's better (to use them in HTML content for example).
   lphuberdeau: hum... didn't know of the second one
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: a lot of plugin help was written with the second one. If you take an old version, you will see it was already the case for TRACKER, TAG, TRACKERITEMFIELD, etc.
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   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: in fact, the second one was intended to replace the first one
   lphuberdeau: oh
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: I think sylvie started to use the second one for plugins help on which she has worked
   lphuberdeau: I just used the one I saw
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: the first one add nothing, but uses '&gt;' which is not a very nice choice of delimiter
   lphuberdeau: can now be changed in a single file
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: yes, that's nice now :)
   lphuberdeau: I still have a few to transition, but will be done in time
   nyloth: ok
   lphuberdeau: just happens to be extremely boring work, so I do it piece by piece
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: I can imagine :)
   lphuberdeau: tarballs to test: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/tikirel/
   <br> oh, these are the pre release tarballs for the official 2.0 release ... testing is important
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: strange, I didn't noticed that doc/devtools was removed from branch 2.0. Is it due to the release scripts ?
   lphuberdeau: always been removed from releases
   nyloth: ok, didn't noticed it before
   <br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: but it includes sqlupgrade.sh ...
   lphuberdeau: not my call
   <br> but really, I doubt those scripts are used by people downloading tarballs
   nyloth: don't know, we will probably have feedback if they were used ;p
   lphuberdeau: has been like that for years
   <br> tikirelease.sh does that
   nyloth: ok
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   pujib: hi! where can i ask questions about 2.0rc4?
   lphuberdeau: might want to try the final release
   <br> pre release tarballs are available for test
   <br> http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/tikirel/
   pujib: yes, already tried, but tiki2.0 seems much prettier :)
   lphuberdeau: final release of 2.0
   pujib: this is rc4 with some bugs fixed?
   lphuberdeau: yes
   pujib: thanks, will try
   lphuberdeau: tell me if you make it to install
   <br> nyloth, did it work for you?
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: wait 5 min, just doing a bit more test cases...
   lphuberdeau: thanks
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: weird, reallly weird :(
   <br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: the fresh install works fine, the upgrade of 1.10 and of 1.9.11 too... but if you had image galleries in 1.9.11 (at least when stored on filesystem), they are completely dead in 2.0. Thumbnails are randomly made...
   lphuberdeau: ?
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: so, no problem with install, but... a major problem with image galleries
   <br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: there was a guy yesterday that had this exact problem. I wanted to test and it's reproductible
   lphuberdeau: is it an easy fix?
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: I installed a fresh new 1.9.11, enabled image galleries, uploaded 5 or 6 images in a new gallery, set the storage on filesystem, and upgraded to 2.0 .... very bad result
   <br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: don't know, I'm not sure yet of what is causing this. Maybe not due to upgrade but to broken feature in 2.0 ? The problem is that I'm not using imagegals (only filegals)... I can investigate, but it would be nice if you have some time to help finding the bug :)
   <br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: btw, I'm looking at it right now. I propose to decide what to do in an hour maximum
   <br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: is it ok for you ?
   lphuberdeau: never used em either...
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: ok, if you want to do some tests for other features / install cases, don't hesitate... I will give you feedback on this problem asap
   lphuberdeau: would be good to have someone using them to help out
   PS|bot: SVN:  Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14154 /trunk/ (12 files in 6 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/2.0 14133 to 14152
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: not sure. Happily everything is fine on filesystem... So, if we are lucky, it's just a small bug
   lphuberdeau: enabling the feature...
   <br> did you try rebuild thumbnails?
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: yes, sure
   <br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: thumbnails are changing randomly
   lphuberdeau: seems to work ok with new data
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: ok, so probably related to the upgrade. Maybe the format has changed, or something like that ?
   lphuberdeau: no idea
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   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: I have a clue... more info in some minutes
   lphuberdeau: ok
   Jyhem: tikiwiki.org seems to be in the process of being reinstalled ???
   lphuberdeau: never heard of that
   Jyhem: one moment I was looking at how ricks99 comments could belong to INSTALL file, the next i see messages about missing permissions
   <br> weird
   <br> the site looks OK, until I go to tikiwiki.org/Installation and then i's TikiWiki is not properly set up:
   <br> 
   <br> The directory '/home/tyc5/public_html/clean/tiki/backups' is not writeable by apache.
   <br> and so on
   lphuberdeau: that looks like the page content...
   Jyhem: that was the page content half an hour ago:
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   Jyhem: http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:vM_l4N2hy_0J:tikiwiki.org/InstallTiki+tikiwiki.org/Installation&amp;hl=fr&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=3&amp;gl=fr
   amette: polom
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   nyloth: hi amette
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   amette: hi nyloth :)
   <br> you guys are really busy with tiki lately - great to see all those commits! :)
   Jyhem: hi amette
   amette: hi Jyhem :)
   <br> the wine is excellent btw :)
   -: amette just opened it up :)
   amette: thanks again :)
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: I've just commited something that should fix problems... could you just try it on your fresh install to see if it breaks nothing for you ?
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   lphuberdeau: updating
   nyloth: ok
   lphuberdeau: all good
   <br> re-doing the pre tarballs
   nyloth: ok
   <br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: and I confirm, the problem was in 2.0 even on fresh install, but when storing galeries on filesystem
   lphuberdeau: missed that option
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: the problem was there since nearly 3 months (revision 12816)
   lphuberdeau: 1000+ commits in 3 months? :)
   nyloth: yes amazing :)
   -: amette gave up trying to read them all :)
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   nyloth: ...._ P
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   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: still alive ? ;p
   lphuberdeau: fell asleep while files were uploading
   <br> new tarballs are up
   nyloth: ok :)
   <br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: maybe send the URL again to be sure everyone here will test the 2.0 tarballs before the final release :)
   lphuberdeau: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/tikirel/
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: ok for me, I've tested .tar.bz2 as well for a fresh new install or for an upgrade + checked secdb. Everything seems to work quite well :)
   lphuberdeau: good :)
   nyloth: now we have to hope that it will be ok for others too (amette, Jyhem, ...) ;)
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   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: not important enough to make new tarballs (in my opinion), but we forgot my last fix in changelog
   lphuberdeau: oh, yeah, no new tarballs for that
   <br> you'll get credit in the next release ;)
   nyloth: lol, don't care of credits :)
   lphuberdeau: I know
   amette: sorry, busy right now, but will test in the upcoming days... is there a final release scheduled already? Sounds like you guys are confident about this being pretty much the last pre-release tarball!?
   nyloth: <u>amette</u>: there is a final release schedule : now()
   amette: oh :P
   nyloth: :)
   amette: well, then, uhm...
   nyloth: <u>marclaporte</u>: around ?
   amette: damn... I don't wanna carry that wiki-rel-link regression into 2.0....
   <br> <u>luciash</u>: how is that rel-link currently - I'm not totally up-to-date on that one - is the fix good/ok/usable?
   nyloth: <u>amette</u>: there is another syntax for the img tag : lnk=
   <br> <u>amette</u>: I think you should try
   amette: <u>nyloth</u>: I mean the [http://example.com|example|reltypehere|nocache] classic wiki-link
   <br> ah, yes, I saw that lnk= commit, didn't try yet though...
   nyloth: <u>amette</u>: oh ok, I thought you was speaking about sanit'
   <br> <u>amette</u>: no idea for the other thing
   -: amette dug himself out under loads of stuff in the last weeks and starts to see light at the end of the tunnel now... ;)
   nyloth: bbl (need to get some drink)
   amette: I think that the current way is ok, but I would prefer [http://example.com|example|rel=reltypehere|nocache] - and that can't be done in 3.0, if we release 2.0 now like that... (drawback of short release cycles.. ;) )...
   lphuberdeau: amette, too late for any changes in 2.0
   amette: ... currently the only obvious drawback is that you can't use "nocache" as the rel-type..
   <br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: I know :-/
   <br> then lets go for it...
   lphuberdeau: waiting for 2 more tarball tests
   amette: which ones need testing still?
   lphuberdeau: I know they all extract correctly
   <br> nyloth did bz2
   -: amette getting gz
   lphuberdeau: I did them all, but I don't count
   amette: ok, succesful fresh install from tar.gz on Apache 2.2.9, MySQL 5.0.60 and PHP 5.2.6-pl2-gentoo - everything up and running, going to click through the stuff...
   lphuberdeau: only missing a test on zip then
   amette: ah, nice, the installer even realizes that the admin-password was changed already :)
   Jyhem: did the corrected INSTALL file get into the tarball ?
   lphuberdeau: I did not change that
   <br> not in the release procedure
   Jyhem: I committed it 1 hour ago.
   <br> The one before gave obsolete instructions even in an 1.9 context :-(
   lphuberdeau: that was probably after packaging
   Jyhem: New testers look at INSTALL files (I noticed when i was looking over the shoulders of some)
   lphuberdeau: I need to repackage for the release anyway, so txt file change will be in
   Jyhem: good
   amette: all seems to work, secdb is ok... I'd give green light
   nyloth: back
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   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: so, what'up ? :)
   lphuberdeau: officially still missing 1 ;)
   nyloth: oh... nobody here to test the tarball ? Jyhem ?
   <br> <u>tomb__</u>: ?
   <br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: do you know where marclaporte is ?
   lphuberdeau: hiding?
   nyloth: :)
   <br> <u>lphuberdeau</u>: do we have a timeout for tarballs tests ?
   lphuberdeau: not if I rollback any commit made on branches/2.0
   nyloth: sure
   lphuberdeau: but ideally I can tag/make final packages soon
   <br> so need one more test
   nyloth: bbl
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   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: about TikiObjects, did you wrote a proposal somewhere ?
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   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: I really hope we will be able to have them soon, since it is a blocker for some important features I need
   lphuberdeau: on dev, and I have a few more notes I need to clean up
   <br> but I don't intend on making this for 3.0
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: I think we can help. It's quite important for me to have them in 3.0
   lphuberdeau: many issues to consider before jumping in code
   <br> only way I know of considering ideas is to let them rest
   <br> and there is only so much time I can allocate to this
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: well, there is no need to rest too much. We also need to brainstorm and discuss on the basis of a document
   lphuberdeau: part of it is on http://dev.tikiwiki.org/TikiObject
   nyloth: <u>lphuberdeau</u>: we just need to agree on something. After, even if you participate less in the development, we can make things happen :)
   <br> ok, thanx.
   lphuberdeau: but there are still issues to solve in terms of caching, selective fetching and quite a few other things
   nyloth: ok, I'll seee if sept_7 and me could work a bit on this document too
   <br> just keep it up-to-date if you have other infos to put in it
   <br> sadly there is some developments that are in stand-by just because of a lack of tikiobjects
   <br> so... I'll have to go now... see you later
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