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chibaguyAs of Trunk Rev 14355, my tikimagic top bar is unpopulated, just a blue space about 5px high. Does running 2.0->3.0.sql script submit the data for this menu? Are other people seeing content in the menu at this point?
It was working for me earlier, but the last couple of svn updates have emptied it out. 		[01:00]
marclaportechibaguy: : data is taken from csv file
sql upgrade script it just to create table to store
there is a new refresh thingny 		[01:03]
chibaguyhow is the csv file read? The refresh thingy is in the site admin? or...? [01:05]
marclaportegoto tiki-magic.php [01:06]
lphuberdeauit's loaded in the database on first use or whenever the file is modified [01:07]
chibaguyok, I see it. Does it override previous prefs submitted on old admin pages? [01:08]
lphuberdeauright now, old admin and magic should work just fine
except the stuff not fully adjusted in magic 		[01:10]
chibaguyThe labels are a bit cryptic/geeky. I imagine those will be humanized more later on. [01:12]
lphuberdeaupart of the plan, they just need to be written [01:13]
chibaguyI guess I need to click submit before my admin topbar has content? At this point, just the blue rectangle. [01:13]
lphuberdeaucan't say.. it's good on my side [01:14]
chibaguyYes, that did it: menu items now. :-) [01:15]
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chibaguywow, this is a first. On tiki-magic.php?featurechain=/1/4/57 (System / Tiki cache), the page is loaded twice, one above the other, both complete and identical. :-)
Happens consistently here. Maybe something to take a look at. 		[01:37]
lphuberdeauI get it too
that's fun
seems to happen at more than one place
will look into that tomorrow, nice catch 		[01:41]
chibaguyDeveloper Tools / Load postprocessor does the double display but is different in that the second display of the page has no center column content. [01:47]
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chibaguyst<x>yle strikes again at tikiwiki.org. :-| [02:17]
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chibaguy...oh, only in the comment textarea during preview. Previewed and submitted text is ok. :-) [02:25]
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chibaguyI wonder why tw.o user prefs lists old themes but not the new ones? Maybe the "restrict themes" hasn't been changed in a while. [02:50]
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chibaguyI changed the themes available for users in their prefs: darkroom, feb12, thenews, tikineat, tikinewt.
Heh, using these other themes really puts that familiar content in a new light.
A little contrast glitch with the top menu in Feb12 theme due to the site's custom code. But the theme choice is a user pref; if it's a problem for someone it's easy to change.
(I mean they can select another theme.)
I left tikineat as the default theme for now. Don't want to shock anyone. Or should we? ;-) 		[02:56]
TMahoneyshock to the system is good from time to time [03:02]
chibaguyheh, that's true. [03:02]
Probably we can retire the "what theme do you use most" poll from the tw.o column, with the conclusion: theme preference is spread evenly over all themes, with Tikineat getting a slight boost probably because it's the shipped default, and aftermarket themes also popular. [03:08]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by marclaporte :: r 14377 /trunk/db/features.csv: [FIX] more data for tiki-magic.php [04:59]
chibaguyFWiW, the magic menu dropdown doesn't seem to be ie6 compatible.
and may cause a problem for PHP Layers menu dropdowns in Firefox 3. 		[05:02]
SEWilcoAny suggestions for making thumbnails stop being 100%? I think thumbnailing was working this morning on my site, but not now.
Oh, this is on a 2.0 (stable) site. Irritating for the images four times larger than my monitor. 		[05:07]
chibaguySEWilco, thumbnailing was working earlier but not now, with no site upgrade, etc in between?
(BTW, about my earlier comment about the magic admin menu and IE6, now I see that the dropdown works, but the background and text are nearly the same color, so menu items aren't seen easily.)
And the text is way small. So these can be fixed in css.
(way small in some themes. Tikineat is ok.) 		[05:13]
SEWilcochibaguy: I think so. I uploaded some buttons, and thumbnail was similar in size but looked fuzzy so I figured there was a tiny size change. Maybe those were 100% but merely converted.
Oh, wait. I just reread "you must clear your browser cache." I've been clearing the Tiki cache. OK, never mind, the problem is in my mind and browser. 		[05:18]
chibaguyok, much easier to fix then ;-) [05:22]
PS|botSVN: Commit by chibaguy :: r 14379 /trunk/templates/ (5 files in 5 dirs): [MOD] tiki-read_article.tpl: div.article added. div.articletrailer moved above div.articleheading. [KIL] theme-specific versions now redundant. [05:23]
SEWilcoHmm. Some images are getting thumbed and others the thumb is 100%. I see one gallery which is doing 100% has thumb sizes defined as "0".
Oh, and this gallery has "Original image is default scale". Maybe that implies 100% thumb? Text does not have doc.tw.o link.
Only thing that helped was setting thumb size from 0 to 100 x 100. The scale stuff didn't matter. 		[05:28]
chibaguyI encountered this a while back, come to think of it. A default size was already set, before. Now it has to be input, it seems. [05:35]
SEWilcoApparently. I suspect the meaning of zero changed. [05:36]
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SEWilcoI'm creating a new gallery now. The four numeric fields near thumb size show as blank. Apparently zero is stored if left blank.
I'm trying to "Move image:" but the dropdown is empty. Maybe because my galleries are all admin-visible-only.
Yup, that's it. Admin can't move to admin-only image galleries because they're not visible. 		[05:42]
marclaportetiki-magic.php is starting to take shape [05:50]
chibaguymarclaporte, a question about design: is there a reason why the magic menu has to be at the page top rather than in the center column as in previous admin layouts? [05:58]
marclaporteSo it's always available
but now that it's data driven, we could have it optional
It could be a floating window too 		[05:59]
chibaguyThe reason I ask is because it causes display problems for themes that use page background behind site-header content in a precise way.
For example, Feb12.
Site logo and horizontal menu get pushed down below their backgrounds.
Well, there are various ways to solve this: floating window, absolute positioning, or move the menu to below tiki-site_header.tpl (which actually would achieve the Tikineat look in the other themes IIRC).
I wonder if the magic people checked the menu in the other Trunk themes.
(Not a big deal at this point. Functionality comes first, then appearance. :-) ) 		[06:02]
SEWilcoGrr. Module random_image insists on labeling the image, at least when wrapped in {MODULE}. Parameters seem to be ignored. [06:11]
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chibaguyHmm, getting an error on every page attempt when logged in as admin: "Built query was probably INSERT INTO tiki_feature (`feature_id`, `feature_name`, `parent_id`, `status`, `setting_name`, `feature_type`, `template`, `permission`, `ordinal`, `depends_on`, `keyword`) VALUES( '1017', 'Other settings', '', '', '', 'configurationgroup', '', 'tiki_p_admin', '', '', '')" . Duplicate entry '1017' for key 1
No idea why simply accessing index.php as admin would prompt an sql insert. 		[06:43]
Oh, interesting. Now there's no error and pages are available as usual. [06:53]
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chibaguyMaybe PS|bot is on coffee break, but for the record, in trunk, I moved the admin bar include from header.tpl to tiki.tpl for better integration in *litecss themes. Actually this gives the same result visually as the appearance in Tikineat, but reduces or eliminates problems for themes like Feb12 that need the site header content to coincide with the body bg image.. [07:41]
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ricks99_hi all :) [10:50]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14382 /trunk/lib/csslib.php: [fix] db_version can nopt be in local for old tw instal [11:22]
marclaportepolom [11:26]
ricks99_moloq [11:31]
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pujibhi, all! i'm trying to understand templating in tikiwiki and doing as written at http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hello+World#tiki_setup_php but something doesn't work. should these instructions work correctly in tw2.0?
so, i've created hello-world.php in tikiwiki root dir, templates/hello-world.tpl
hello-world.php: <?php // hello_world displayed in a TikiWiki center column
function test() {
echo "<pre>";
print_r(debug_backtrace());
echo "</pre>";
}
include_once('tiki-setup.php');
echo "<pre>user:$user</pre>";
test();
$smarty->assign('mid', 'hello_world.tpl');
$smarty->display('tiki.tpl');
?>
hello-world.tpl: <p>Hello World, {$user}</p>
i've got output from test() and $user printed at the header, but middle column (where the content should be) is empty 		[12:15]
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sylviegthe echo will be at the top
if you want in the middle you must put the strings in templates/hello_world.tpl 		[12:38]
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pujibyes, i actually see echo at the top, but none 'Hello World' in the content column
hello-world.tpl: <p>Hello World, {$user}</p> - that't it 		[12:47]
sylviegis it heelo-world.tpl or hello_world.tpl?
- versus _ 		[12:49]
pujiboops, thanks a lot, didn't mention it :)
that was the issue... 		[12:51]
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marclaporteyo huge
marclaporte declares 3rd ofTikiFest almost open (missing a few people still) 		[13:43]
hugesalut [13:46]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by marclaporte :: r 14384 /trunk/db/features.csv: [FIX] More data for tiki-magic.php. [13:50]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14385 /trunk/tiki-magic.php: [FIX] Double display of some panels [13:58]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14386 /trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [FIX] Did I mess up these color values? [14:21]
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ricks99_just svn'ed up (2.0)... getting a db error when i try to register...
Unknown column 'email_confirm' in 'field list'
does the 1_9to2_0.sql script need to be updated? 		[14:41]
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ricks99_... using "just tiki" authentication [14:44]
lphuberdeaumaybe
when did you last update? 		[14:46]
ricks99_about an hr ago...
but when i look @ svn, the 1.9to2.0 sql is dated 8/6/2008
so im pretty sure i have the current 		[14:47]
lphuberdeauthere were basically no commits on 2.0 since the release [14:51]
ricks99_am i wrong in thinking that 2.0svn should be the current 2.0 release + any new patches and fixes? [14:51]
lphuberdeauin theory, that is the case, but there were no problems major enough to get fixed... didn't get any requests, no one tried [14:51]
ricks99_i have just run the 1.8to1.9 and 1.9to2.0 scripts...
should have fixed it, right?
but still get the db error
(already cleared caches) 		[14:53]
looking at the sql details:
ALTER TABLE users_users CHANGE email_due email_confirm int(14) default NULL
Message: Unknown column 'email_due' in 'users_users' 		[14:59]
sylviegI just got the same problem again - I thought I fixed it in 2.0 .... need to check [15:01]
ricks99_@sylvieg: for my issue? [15:04]
sylviegyes [15:11]
ricks99_tx. sylvieg [15:11]
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sylviegThere is a problem witht he branches
http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/branches/2.0/db/tiki_1.9to2.0.sql?r1=13650&r2=14046
there is ALTER TABLE users_users ADD email_due int(14) default NULL AFTER pass_due;
but when i svn up my 2.0 I do not have this line.... 		[15:24]
tikier_hey all, just upgraded our system to 2.0 from 2.0rc2. I am trying to figure out how to upload and link to files in fckeditor. For some reason I can only use the filebrowser for images and flash types. [15:25]
sylviegdammit I deleted this line
I isdseed up this one 		[15:25]
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tikier_How do people manage files in tikiwiki? I have a file gallery, but I can't reference those file ids from a wysiwyg interface while editing wikis. I can attach files to a wiki, but then the auto indexing search feature of the galleries is missing, and it stores files in the database instead of the file system where the gallery is.
any way to make this more seamless? I see a bug id for it:
http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=1492&trackerId=5&show=view 		[15:28]
nikhilodeonhi, is there anyway to make the tikiwiki layout a fixed width, and not occupy 100% of the screen width? reason i ask is that I want to standardize on different screen resolutions...currently my site looks vastly different in 1024x768 vs 1440x900
my ideal is to have the columns in the center of the screen, with margins on either side 		[15:30]
sylviegricks99_: I changed tiki_1.9to2.0.sql .... :-( can you try again
nikhilodeon: change your css
or use a style with a fixed width 		[15:34]
nikhilodeonsylvieg: sure i'll try that - just wondered if any .tpl changes were needed as well [15:35]
sylviegno only css [15:35]
lphuberdeausylvieg, how frequent is this problem you just fixed?
should a new release be made soon? 		[15:38]
ricks99_trying... [15:39]
sylviegnedd to rerun a complete set of test [15:39]
marclaportefor TikiFesters: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Magic [15:40]
sylviegbut with this 2 instructions should be absolutly sure the columns are here [15:40]
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ricks99_Command: #2008-08-18 sylvieg
ALTER TABLE users_users ADD pass_confirm int(14) default NULL AFTER challenge
Message: Duplicate column name 'pass_confirm'


Command: ALTER TABLE users_users ADD email_confirm int(14) default NULL AFTER pass_confirm
Message: Duplicate column name 'email_confirm'
.. but i can now register ! yah! 		[15:41]
sylviegyes the error should be ok - but now can you create a new user? [15:42]
ricks99_tx sylvieg [15:42]
sylviegI feel very sorry ... [15:42]
ricks99_np.
in the future, should i feel "safe" with 2.0svn.. no new features, right? only fixes and patches 		[15:42]
sylvieglphuberdeau: is 2.1 planned?
ricks99_: yes 		[15:42]
ricks99_tx again sylvieg [15:43]
PS|botSVN: Commit by marclaporte :: r 14390 /trunk/db/features.csv: [FIX] More data for tiki-magic.php. [15:44]
lphuberdeauwell, would be planned if there was anything worth releasing
so far, there were no commits 		[15:44]
sylviegthre is one - I do not know if I do in 2.0 or trunk: IP selector for a creator is reset when you edit a tracker item with this field
it is one line - but as the IP field is not really a good concept (as IP can change) 		[15:47]
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ricks99_* rick likes the new "magic" admin menu in 3.0... has great possibilities :) [16:10]
marclaporte:-) [16:10]
ricks99_a very strong first step [16:11]
marclaportewe could use some help with all the labels in db/features.csv
also, I see this as a general tool to manage the 1000+ settings 		[16:12]
ricks99_y. but i still think that options need to be grouped better, and hidden if the parent option is "off" [16:15]
marclaporteBut I would still like a custom made admin panel with top 10 things (admin users, etc) [16:15]
ricks99_actuall, ive been thinking of a wizard/module for common settings (getting started0
like a tikiwiki assitant 2.0 :) 		[16:16]
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snarlydwarfI wonder how many items can be crammed into a tracker before it explodes and I have to write a 'proper' table for it
28.712 items in trackers now ^ 		[16:38]
nikhilodeonhi, is there a way to reference a plugin with the Custom Site Header that appears at the head of each page? i tried, and i got whitespace [16:45]
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nikhilodeoni have a pretty basic php function that i am trying to hook into from the header [16:46]
marclaportesnarlydwarf: : excellent! [16:47]
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nikhilodeonhi, is there a way to reference a plugin with the Custom Site Header that appears at the head of each page? i tried, and i got whitespace [17:19]
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marclaportereference a plugin?
ricks99_: : the assistant could be done with profiles.tikiwiki.org 		[17:35]
nikhilodeonor call a plugin...ie, use the {COPYRIGHT()}~title~~year~~authors~text{COPYRIGHT} plugin in the HTML code used for the custom header [17:37]
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marclaporteit doesn't work? [17:43]
ricks99_@marclaporte: my idea was more than profiles. a wizard that walks u through the mandatory items on each admin page (i.e., sender email, temp directory, etc0> [17:43]
marclaportehi robferguso! [17:44]
ricks99_@nikholodeon: custom site header does not (currently) support wiki syntax and/or plugins. it requires html and smarty only
* one of rick's pet peves...why dont *all* text areas accept *all* syntax? 		[17:44]
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marclaportericks99_: tiki-magic could have a "mandatory" page
ricks99_: : I can start it and you can tweak it? 		[17:47]
ricks99_hmm...
i was thinking more a dyanamic decision tree.... 		[17:48]
marclaporteah [17:48]
ricks99_*if* u enable the blog, be sure to set A, B, and C.
there are some mandatory things, however that all tikis should set 		[17:48]
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marclaporteor use the blog profile installer which sets the sensible default [17:49]
ricks99_but if i want a blog + forum + tracker? is there going to b a provile for every possible combination? [17:50]
marclaporteyes [17:50]
ricks99_tiki has how many options ? [17:50]
marclaporteover 1000 [17:50]
ricks99_so that is millions of profiles? [17:51]
marclaportemaybe 50-100 profiles [17:51]
ricks99_for the general admin, i had tried to use requried, recommened, and optional (a whlie ago: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Regrouping%20the%20General%20Admin%20page) [17:51]
marclaportemarclaporte checks [17:52]
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marclaportericks99_: : i think wizards should be a super-set of profiles [18:05]
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marclaportelph is on break now. Will you be around later? We could brainstorm [18:05]
ricks99_possibly. i added some stuff to http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Magic [18:09]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14396 /branches/2.0/tiki-view_tracker_item.php: [FIX]tracker: the IP selector/creator was reset when item was modified: todo: rewrite .. not a good idea to avoid resetting creator field by magically unsetting fieldId [18:17]
ricks99_q: on the new 3.0 magic admin: plugins page, SNARF plugin is disabled, yet the security admin page says that it *is* installed (and unsafe) [18:19]
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stuperman4Hey guys, just downloaded and installed a fresh copy of tw 2.0. On demo site, wiki links can contain special characters but in the actual released software the wiki links show up as plain text. Is this a bug that is already known? [18:25]
ricks99_stuperman4: u need to set the wiki link format (english, latin, or complete)
see docs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Wiki%20Config#_Wiki_Link_Format 		[18:26]
nikhilodeonricks99_ : I am not familiar with smarty - do you know if it would be possible to write something similar to the PHP random page listed here? basically I am trying to have different content display in the header each time the page loads...it was a snap in PHP
http://php.about.com/od/finishedphp1/p/random_quote.htm 		[18:26]
ricks99_@nikhelodeon: use the {cookie} plugin
i do the same thing on twbasics.keycontent.org.
look in the left column, a random testimonial appears for each page load 		[18:27]
stuperman4ricks99: I already set the wiki link format to complete. Has same issue. [18:28]
nikhilodeonricks99_ but this is in the header, and the header doesn't support plugins, correct? [18:29]
ricks99_ahh.. u using site_custom_code. then y, no {cookie} allowed :(
u *might* b able to simply call another php file {include file="randomgenerator.php"}
no guarantees 		[18:30]
nikhilodeonricks99_ hmm ok - so smarty include syntax is supported in the header then? [18:32]
ricks99_maybe...
@stuperman4: not sure i understand ur issue. do u have a link i can see? 		[18:32]
stuperman4ricks99_: Forget what I said, I didn't set the wiki link format correctly. I was clicking on the Change Configuration button at the bottom instead of the Set button (I thought Set was only for setting a different delimiter). Thanks! [18:35]
ricks99_tikiwiki = aabtc (always another button to click)
* another pet peeve: admin pages with multiple "chanage configuration" buttons 		[18:36]
stuperman4I agree. Why don't you guys just have one Change Preferences/Configuration button at the bottom to handle all the config changes? [18:41]
ricks99_join us: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/AdminUIRevamp [18:46]
SEWilco2SEWilco2 encourages vamping it up. [18:47]
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nikhilodeonricks99 - looks like the includeroo doesn't do the trick
how hard / undesirable would it be to allow calling wiki plugins in the custom header? 		[19:25]
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nikhilodeonbecause i tell ya, that would be one heck of a great feature - lot of flexibility etc [19:29]
ricks99_dont know. beyond my (limited) abilities.
but as long as ur at it, how about adding it to: comments, all "description" text areas, newsletters, quizes, etc 		[19:30]
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sylviegeither add a wiki parse for custom header - either have a smarty block for interpreting a plugin [19:33]
PS|botSVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14397 /trunk/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX]tracker: to be able to reset visible/editable by for a field
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damien_hello!
anyone got a second to help me out why I am having blank/empty tikiwiki (1.9.11) pages on my hardy heron ubuntu 8.04 with php5 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.3?
:) 		[20:26]
lphuberdeaumay be the memory limit
but you really should go for 2.0 		[20:31]
rodrigo_sampaiodamien_: look at the value of memory_limit under your php.ini file
damien_: i think you need to have at least 24MB or 32MB 		[20:32]
damien_i actually have it set to 128M right now... is that the right syntax? does it want to be 128M?
or shoudl I reduce it down to 32MB?
does it work if you have the 'b' in "MB"?
thanks rodrigo for you suggestions :D 		[20:33]
rodrigo_sampaiodamien_: no problem if you have more than 32MB [20:34]
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ricks99_ [20:51]
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LinuxPhreakhey hey hey I'm new to Tiki Wiki and I was having trouble finding out how to add pages to my wiki [20:55]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by ricks99 :: r 14401 /trunk/templates/tiki-magic.tpl: [UI]use icons for help button [20:57]
lphuberdeaujust create a link to it and then click on the question mark next to the page name [20:57]
LinuxPhreakexplain very very new [20:57]
ricks99_See: http://twbasics.keycontent.org/Adding+Links
or even better: http://twbasics.keycontent.org/tiki-index.php?page=Creating%20a%20Wiki%20Page&structure=TikiWiki%20for%20Smarties 		[20:57]
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ricks99_oh well [21:02]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by ricks99 :: r 14403 /branches/2.0/templates/tiki-admin_system.tpl: [UI]no files for all user prefs
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PS|botSVN: Commit by ricks99 :: r 14405 /trunk/templates/tiki-upload_image.tpl: [MOD]tables need headers, give iconic status [21:12]
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sylvieghas anybody a problem with available_language ... the var is no more de-serialized
lphuberdeau: seems I have this problem since the prefs.php changes 		[21:33]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14406 /branches/experimental/upgrade/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Full support for install and update, error reporting still missing [21:49]
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