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PS|botSVN: Commit by ricks99 :: r 14445 /mods/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [NEW]JS-Kit Ratings wiki plugin [02:14]
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nombrecinqcan tikiwiki have templates for wiki pages?
is that done through smarty? 		[07:47]
chibaguynombrecinq, do you mean this: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Content%20template ? [07:49]
nombrecinqhey chibaguy
yeah i think so
do you know of an example?
so i can see it in action? 		[07:49]
chibaguyIf you're registered at tikiwiki.org, the wiki edit page has a content template dropdown list. I think that's visible to any registered user. [07:52]
nombrecinqi don't want editors to be able to edit the structure of pages, just content [07:52]
chibaguyHmm. I'm not sure if that's possible.
What do you have in mind, by "structure"? 		[07:52]
nombrecinqlike say i have a text field called "name" [07:53]
chibaguyAh [07:53]
nombrecinqthat should always be editable as a text field
not wikitext 		[07:53]
chibaguychibaguy pondering
I wonder if using a tracker would be better.
Are these wiki pages kind of form-like? 		[07:55]
nombrecinqyeah definitely form like
but the content should be editable in the wiki sense 		[07:56]
chibaguySo on WikiPageA the "name" section will have "Bob" for example, and on WikiPageB it will have "Nancy" or whatever? [07:57]
nombrecinqyeah [07:58]
chibaguyThe trouble with Tiki's content templates is that they just get pasted into the wiki edit textarea and can then be edited if the page author wants to. No way to protect that text.
I was thinking about using either section editing (in Tiki 2.0) but am not sure without experimenting.
(was going to say either section editing or the INCLUDE plugin somehow....)
But if it's form-like content, maybe using a tracker and tracker plugin in wiki pages would be more appropriate. 		[08:00]
nombrecinqhow does the tracker plugin work?
chibaguy: are you a tikiwiki dev? 		[08:02]
chibaguyMainly doing themes.
I haven't used the tracker plugin, so can't give details.
basically it displays info from a tracker, in a wiki page. Maybe info can also be submitted directly on the wiki page, I don't know. 		[08:04]
nombrecinqhmm [08:06]
chibaguyhttp://doc.tikiwiki.org/plugintracker
There's been a lot of dev activity on this so it's worth checking out if it looks like it has possibilities for you. 		[08:09]
nombrecinqi can't believe i haven't heard of tikiwiki before today
it seems like such a powerful tool 		[08:11]
chibaguyYep, it has lots of fun stuff. ;-)
See the doc site for howto details, though it's hard to keep the docs up to date.
In particular, version 2.0 was just released and has a lot of new thiings that aren't fully documented yet.
I'll be back on in a few hours.... cya. 		[08:14]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by sept_7 :: r 14447 /trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.memusage.php: [FIX] use appropriate function for different PHP version [09:41]
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Yonixxxhi all [12:53]
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pujibhi there!
how can one redefine base wiki syntax?
i don't mean {SOME_FANCY_PLUGIN()}{SOME_FANCY_PLUGIN} style 		[14:27]
lphuberdeauyou need to modify the parser... lib/tikilib.php ... big function called parse_data
(non-trivial) 		[14:29]
pujibok, thanks [14:31]
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pujib//PARSEDATA
function parse_data($data,$is_html=false,$absolute_links=false) {
// Don't bother if there's nothing...
if (function_exists('mb_strlen')) {
if( mb_strlen( $data ) < 1 )
{
return;
}
}

hm, it doesn't seem neither meaningful, nor big 		[14:38]
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lphuberdeaudon't be fooled by the bad indentation
the function is over a thousand line long 		[14:51]
pujiboops, sorry
indentation is everything ) 		[14:52]
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helqudI have what may be a stupid question - I just installed 2.0 to play around with, and it seems the "export to pdf" feature was removed? Any way to enable it? I've tried a few of the mods (html2pdf & fpdf), and they either error out installing or once installed don't included a pdf link on the wiki pages. Any suggestions? [15:05]
jeremyclarke_does anyone know why the .js files in /lib/ would be set to 664?
i'm getting 403 errors on the editor page and nothing works 		[15:07]
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sylviegpdf is not working anymore - nyloth has an implementation he described - I think in the commit comments - otherwise export html and use another tool to create the pdf
jeremyclarke_: it should not -never see the pb - are you sure you setup correctly 		[15:12]
jeremyclarke_what shouldn't see the pb? (also, what's pb?) [15:13]
sylviegproblem [15:13]
jeremyclarke_well i unzipped the file using ssh
do you know if there is one safe chmod i can set for everything in /lib/?
Firefox still won't load tiki-js.js even after i make it 777] 		[15:14]
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helqudsylvieg: is this the commit note you are referring to: [NEW] pdf export: Enable pdf export in wiki pages and structures (yet only works if mozilla2ps mod is installed).
2008-01-21 10:47:16 		[15:19]
sylviegyes - you are on it .... [15:20]
jeremyclarke_sylvieg: aha, stupid me. I forgot to remove the Twiki shit from my apache conf [15:20]
sylviegI began a page: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=List%2Bcandidate%2Bfixes%2Bfor%2B2.0 to report all the fix in trunk that can be backport to 2.0 - with no pbs [15:27]
ricks99_@sylvieg: ur tiki-registration.php fix (captcha + tracker for more info) seems to be working for my 2.0 site,too [15:33]
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sylviegthx ricks99_ I need to add this one [15:35]
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jeremyclarke_is image galleries the simplest way to have image uploads for wiki content? [15:45]
ricks99_@jeremy: u can simply use the "upload image" option on the wiki edit page [15:50]
jeremyclarke_I'm not seeing it, do you know wht is required to have that turned on? [15:51]
ricks99_you need to enable the option wiki:config [15:52]
nikhilodeonhi - sorry i know this is a basic question, but how do i disable smashed-word autolinking? ie, i have a page that references BluRay, and it is automatically creating a link that goes nowhere... [15:53]
ricks99_@nikhilodeon: wikiwords. see the doc [15:53]
lphuberdeauthey are called WikiWords [15:53]
Bilalmarclaporte: welcome :) [15:53]
jeremyclarke_thanks ricks99_ that worked [15:54]
ricks99_yw. more help @ http://twbasics.keycontent.org/Adding+Pictures [15:56]
jeremyclarke_ricks99_: huh, thanks for the link
i think i actually turned on 'attatchments' instead of imags
cool, found the right setting 		[15:57]
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ricks99_Q: where is the babelfish url defined? needs to be changed to yahoo! [16:19]
ahh.. .babelfish.php. duh [16:26]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14453 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: global
SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14452 /trunk/lib/menubuilder/menulib.php: [FIX]menu: contextual menu was not working with
SVN: Commit by ricks99 :: r 14451 /trunk/templates/tiki-magic.tpl: [MOD]only show GO! link if the feature is enabled 		[16:33]
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SEWilco2"svn unlock" doesn't seem to do the trick. How does one make svn work when whining about "svn: Unable to lock 'temp/cache'" [16:39]
zzxcAre there any major changes to trackers planned for tikiwiki3 that aren't landed yet? [16:40]
sylviegSEWilco rmtemp/cahce; svn up; chmod a+w temp/cache [16:42]
lphuberdeauzzxc, don't know, we don't have plans for everything
and 3.0 is still many months away... a lot can happen 		[16:43]
SEWilco2sylvieg: Thanks. [16:44]
PS|botSVN: Commit by ricks99 :: r 14454 /trunk/lib/Babelfish.php: [FIX]updated babelfish to use yahoo babelfish service (no longer owned by altavista) [16:49]
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jeremyclarke_is there a way to make sure that a given menu item is open by default? [17:11]
SEWilco2That's odd. 2.0 from svn is emitting Segmentation fault in error.log. 2.0 from tar, using same database, seems to be working. [17:13]
ricks99_@jeremyclarke: use type=fixed. see docs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Menus [17:15]
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jeremyclarke_ricks99_: hmm, that works for new menus, but is there a way to always have the 'wiki' item in the application menu expanded?
aha, cool
i changed it to a separator, which works fine 		[17:23]
ricks99_u may also consider creating a custom menu that has only the options u need (rather than re-using) the entire application menu for all users [17:25]
jeremyclarke_yeah, that's a good point
grrr, have you guys considered making the labels for features (like 'image galleries' and 'trackers') on the features on/off page into <label>s instead of <a>s?
when one sees a word next to a checkbox web standard is that clicking it selects the box, not loads an external page
maybe have a questionmark/help icon next to it instead? 		[17:25]
ricks99_jeremyclare: y, admin ui rework is underway. join us: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=AdminUIRevamp [17:28]
jeremyclarke_oh you wiki kids! sending me a working documene :) [17:29]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by jonnybradley :: r 14456 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Markup now parsed when switching from normal (wiki) to wysiwyg (html) editors (itemId=1831) Doesn't loose edits, copes with images and smilies - but: wikiplugins now get <x>'s scattered into the code they produce, so break a lot (i'll work on that!) [17:59]
jeremyclarke_is there a user directory that is never updated when tiki is updated? [18:08]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by jonnybradley :: r 14457 /trunk/lib/overlib.js: [FIX] Renamed overLIB's windowWidth function to olWindowWidth to avoid conflict with PHP Layers Menu windowWidth variable. (overLIB was last updated in 2005, so probably won't get overwritten any time soon, i'll try and send a message to the developer to ask if this is ok) [18:13]
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kerrnelhola [18:16]
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jeremyclarke_ricks99_: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=1977 [18:21]
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ricks99_y. most (some) pages use (?) to link to help. others not [18:31]
jeremyclarke_the features list must be controlled centrally though right?
is there a way to not have to check the 'categorize this object' checkbox?
if soemone checks a category, shouldn't that be enough of a hint? 		[18:40]
ricks99_if u have the "help" option turned off, you wont see the hints (i think) [18:41]
jeremyclarke_oh, i see, its because you can't unselect the last category
why aren't they all using checkboxes?
it would be so much simpler for users 		[18:42]
ricks99_if u have 100 categories, thats a lot of check boxes. scroll box is eaiser [18:43]
jeremyclarke_you could put the checkboxes in a scrolling box
that's what wp does, it works pretty well
i don't think most users understand about ctrl+clicking to select multiple 		[18:43]
ricks99_pretty basic ui skill (even in windows) [18:44]
jeremyclarke_Here's one, having the checkbox above the categories list would probably make more sense
otherwise you add categories before considering whether you want to or not. 		[18:50]
ricks99_dont quite undertand. u mean on category: admin page? [18:56]
jeremyclarke_no, while editing an object (i'm looking at a wiki)
you see the select box, then underneath you see the checkbox for turning on categorization
really the select box should be js disabled until you click the checbox 		[18:56]
ricks99_i think u can control the default (shown or hidden) [18:57]
jeremyclarke_otherwise people must choose categories and forget the checkbox, thus thinking they added categories when they didn't [18:57]
ricks99_theres also an option to force categorization (for which u want it displayed, by default) [18:58]
jeremyclarke_oooh. where's that?
i was looking for it 		[18:58]
ricks99_wiki config. [18:58]
jeremyclarke_Force and limit categorization to within subtree of:
?
Categorize structure pages together: ? 		[18:59]
ricks99_yup [19:00]
kerrnelYes, you can set categories to have their sub-pages inherit them [19:00]
jeremyclarke_that doesn't make the checbox selected by default though [19:00]
ricks99_im not sure what check box ur talking about? isnt the scroolbox of categories shown by default now? [19:01]
jeremyclarke_http://simianuprising.com/images/tiki-category-checkbox.png
the checkbox below the category list
IMHO it should be automatic, if there is a category selected, then consider the categories active 		[19:02]
ricks99_o.. no. i was talking abou the default state of hide/show categories [19:03]
jeremyclarke_and maybe add a 'none' in the select instead
yeah, 'none' would totally have the same effect, and would be simpler for everyone 		[19:03]
ricks99_or just have the checkbox automatically be enabled whenever u select a category (add an onclick event) [19:04]
jeremyclarke_yeah, though that still adds a whole new element when it would be simpler to have it all in the select [19:05]
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jeremyclarke_just have to change the logic to act based on 'none'
hmmm, except that someone could select none AND another category, but thats probably pretty rare
having a checkbox that will check itself 99% of the time seems a bit crazy 		[19:05]
SEWilco2Any idea why 2.0 from svn is emitting Segmentation fault in Apache2 error.log? 2.0 from tar, using same database, seems to be working. [19:07]
ricks99_but notice how when "force category" is selected, there is no check box at all
so im not really shure why it u would need to be selected by default 		[19:08]
jeremyclarke_where is the force category option? [19:10]
ricks99_wiki config [19:10]
jeremyclarke_like it would be this url: /tiki-admin.php?page=wiki "
?
oh, i can put 'all'
whew, that's confusing dude.
sorry, i should have read the full pulldown earlier when you pointed it out
but not obvious at all
and then a category is mandatory... which isn't what I actually wanted 		[19:10]
ricks99_sorry, though u wanted the "Categorize this" checkbox to b selected (thereby forcing a category) [19:13]
jeremyclarke_i just don't want to see the chckbox
it feels like something that should be automatic
but i guess that's harder than it seems
wordpress always forced a default category 		[19:13]
ricks99_the only wayt to make categorization "automatic" is by using the "force" option [19:14]
jeremyclarke_can I set a default category? [19:14]
ricks99_y, via the staging option [19:15]
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Bilal_I linked Wikipedia as an external Wiki and using it like ((dev:Download)) , i dont want the link to open in the same window, i want it to open in new window. i also setup in WIKI settings that external links should open in new window. but it does not in the case of external wiki link .
I checked http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=External+Wikis
there is no information to open link in a new window 		[19:51]
jeremyclarke_is there a way to designate a code block in wiki content? [19:54]
SEWilco2Bilal_: I think in Admin>Wiki there is an option to make external links open in a new window. I've seen that option someplace in Admin
Bilal_: Oh, I just noticed that you configured Wikipedia as an external Wiki. Then by definition those aren't considered external links. 		[19:55]
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ricks99_@jeremyclarke: use the code plugin. doc.tikwiki.org/plugincode [19:58]
Bilal_SEWilc1: is there a way to open External Wiki Links in New Window ?
SEWilc1: or should i not use External Wiki Links? 		[19:58]
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SEWilco2A customer can't paste a Word document. Is the <x> fix in 2.0 svn? I see trunk has moved on to 3.0, so the <x> fix over there is not relevant to 2.0 sites.
(When the customer saves his Wiki page with the Word content, all the content vanishes. I saw same thing happen when trying to edit css on 2.0, so suspect it's the input protection filter... aka <x>.
) 		[20:02]
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sylviegSEWilco send a mail on the deval list - nyloth the main dev on this is on vacation [20:08]
SEWilco2Thrilling. Thanks. [20:09]
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lq_788Is there an easy way to delete all wiki pages? [20:12]
sylvieglist_pages numrows>>>> delete all [20:14]
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lq_788sylvieg: where do I type that in? is list_pages a script in the tikiwiki directory? [20:19]
sylviegtiki-listpages.php or menu->admin->list pages [20:20]
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lq_788sylvieg: so if i load tiki-listpages.php in my web browser, where do i type in that numrows>>>>delete all command? or do i need to do this at the command line level? [21:08]
sylviegdo you see at the top something like num rows? [21:09]
lq_788sylvieg: there's a text field called number of displayed rows. [21:10]
sylviegput a big number > biger you number of pages
click find
then on the right in the table just before Id, you will see acheckbox, check it then at the bottom you will see perform action with checked
select remove 		[21:11]
lq_788sylvieg: ahh ok. I thought there was an easy sql way to do it. this works too. thanks! [21:13]
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lq_788sylvieg: I can't seem to delete more than one page at a time with the method you suggested. I have version 2.0. This may be a bug. I am logged in as the admin. where can i type in the list_pages numrows>>>> delete all command? is it supposed to be at the command line? [21:38]
sylviegare all the apges with a checkbos checked? [21:40]
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lq_788yes
sylvieg: it prompts me to confirm deletion but it will not actually perform the delete 		[21:54]
sylvieghmm see you are right
ah - I remember .. I found this out and send a message to the guy responsible of the bug -but he did not fix it... 		[21:57]
lq_788i see [22:01]
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lq_788sylvieg: is there another way to delete all wiki pages before the bug gets fixed? [22:05]
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sylvieglq_788: rollback is described here http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=List%2Bcandidate%2Bfixes%2Bfor%2B2.0
you can not use mysql easily because there is a lot of tables that need to be updated 		[22:06]
lq_788sylvieg: so do i just need to overwrite my tiki-listpages.php with the one on the revision 14461 page for it to work properly? or do i need to wait for it to get properly fixed? [22:16]
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kerrnelIs there a reason that everything in $field_value would get sent to a .tpl but the $field_value.value would be empty, even though I can prove that it isn't before it goes to the template? [22:18]
sylviegno in 2.0 you need to backport the changes not overwrite [22:18]
kerrnelkerrnel is losing precious hair. [22:18]
sylviegwith tracker , believe me kerrnel you will be bold (it needs a good rewriting [22:19]
kerrnelI think I just figured it out
lol
You may be right
Eureka!! 		[22:21]
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