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ParagtimI'm trying to put together a registration tracker and it includes a radio choice Accept/Decline. How do I get Decline to cancel the registration process? [07:01]
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chibaguyHmm, info.tw.o error: "Unable to connect to the database ! User infotw_infotw has already more than 'max_user_connections' active connections"
I guess this is an on-and-off known issue....
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Twist theme updated for Tiki 2. Download available from mods/themes: http://themes.tikiwiki.org/tiki-directory_redirect.php?siteId=56 . [08:00]
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gmchi all, i was wondering, is there some kind of wiki syntax that marks a string as i18n translatable? [08:26]
hmm, and is it possible to have modules that go in left or right nav bar translated??
trying to build a multi-lingual site here, but afaics tikiwiki's multi-lingual support is only halfway there..
eg, can module titles be translated?
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gmcwhen i put a wiki page in a category, and i give that category (and its parent categories) the tiki_p_view_categories perm for Anonymous, then the page should be viewable for non-loggedin users, no? [09:38]
is anyone aware of the fact that www.tikiwiki.org is down btw? [09:48]
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is this whole category permission thing just horribly broken in 2.0 ?? [10:11]
gawd, this is silly: i have to assign tiki_p_view to group anonymous for every page i put into a category :( [10:17]
sylviegusually modules are translated... btu if you have problem, you can always do 2 modules with each one a param lang=en... [10:31]
gmcsylvieg: thanks, i was about to try that
more serious are my troubles with the category system and permissions though, i'm checking the code now and it seems it just isn't supposed to work as documented..?
[10:33]
sylviegI do not understand - (hat category (and its parent categories) - put only the perm on the categ [10:35]
gmcthe documentation also mentions a tiki_p_view_categorized permission, but i don't even get that in the category permission editting screen [10:35]
sylviegin 2.0? [10:36]
gmc2.0, yes..
at least, i untarred tikiwiki-2.0.tar.bz2
so i would presume i'm using 2.0
[10:36]
sylviegin tiki2.0/tiki-categpermissions.php?categId=... I can see tiki_p...categorized [10:37]
gmci only can assign tiki_p_view_categories and tiki_p_admin_categories
hmm, so i have to enable something.. or?
i do see it in the global list of permissions
[10:37]
sylviegno - something is wrong with your download perhaps... [10:38]
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gmcright, no way to check though, as www.tikiwiki.org is down
tar didn't report any errors though
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sylviegwhat version do you have in admin->general [10:39]
gmcsays Tikiwiki version: 2.0 [10:39]
sylviegand you do not see the perm in assign group perm or assign categ perm? this is very very strange [10:40]
gmcno, it's not there.. well it is there when i edit global group permissions
but not in the category perm edit screen
i temporarily added an <option> tag in the template for that category btw, so i did manage to assign the permission to the category..
but that didn't work out either
from looking at the code, i also don't understand how it ever could work
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sylviegin assign permission for a group do you have 6 categories perms? [10:44]
gmci mean, tiki_index.php only checks $tiki_p_view=='y'
let me check
no, there's only 4: view_categories, view_categorized, edit_categorized and admin_categories
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sylviegis it a freash 2.0 or an update? [10:47]
gmcit's fresh.. [10:47]
sylviegfrom 1.9 [10:47]
gmcnewly created and populated database [10:48]
sylviegare you mysql? [10:48]
gmcyes
just out of curiosity, what does your tiki-index.php say right under '// Now check permissions to access this page' ?
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sylviegif($tiki_p_view != 'y') { [10:50]
gmchmm, that's what i have too .. can't be it then [10:50]
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gmcis there a mirror of tikiwiki.org somewhere, so i can download the tarball again?
another q: what installation profile did you use?
i'm using the default one, with nothing enabled.. then i enabled categories..
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hmm just tried a fresh install, same problem..
tried installing locally on my laptop for a test.. same problem.. tried the enabled install profile.. same problem..
i'll try the tar.gz and the zip.. if that doesn't work, i guess tikiwiki just is not for me :(
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sylvieg: how did you install? using the zip? what install profile? [11:14]
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ricks99hi all :) [11:38]
chibaguyhi ricks99 [11:40]
ricks99hi gary [11:41]
gmchey
last resort: try a tikiwiki-2.0 checkout from svn..
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chibaguyhttps://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=64258&package_id=266122 is the sourceforge page for Tiki downloads
if you want to try downloading again
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gmcyeah, i tried..
i even downloaded all 3 files (tar.gz tar.bz2 and zip) and diffed them, also against what i downloaded earlier..
no diffs
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chibaguyso on the "Assign permissions to category" page for a category, you don't get tiki_p_view_categorized in the dropdown? [11:48]
gmcthat's correct [11:53]
ricks99gmc: did u upgrade or a new install? [11:53]
gmcfresh install.. actually.. 6 times freshly installed by now (dropping db, deleting all the files, installing again)
on two different machines
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ricks99brand new db? [11:54]
gmcyes, created freshly, no tables in there whatsoever before in installed tikiwiki [11:54]
ricks99did u have any sql errors after running the installation script? [11:54]
gmcnope, it reported all queries were succesfull [11:55]
ricks99using the 'default' profile for the install? [11:55]
gmcyep, but i tried both default and later on a new fresh install the enabled profile [11:55]
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chibaguytiki_p_categorized isn't listed on, say, tiki-assignpermission.php?group=Anonymous ? [11:57]
ricks99look at db/tiki.sql. do you have the statement:
INSERT INTO users_permissions (permName, permDesc, level, type) VALUES ('tiki_p_view_categorized', 'Can view categorized items', 'basic', 'category');
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chibaguyer, tiki_p_view_categorized... [11:58]
gmcchibaguy: on that page it is listed, yes [11:58]
chibaguyso it's in the db [11:58]
gmcricks99: yes i have that insert stmt in tiki.sql [11:59]
chibaguywhy wouldn't it be in the dropdown on tiki-categpermissions.php, I wonder [12:00]
gmci was hoping you guys would know :)
this is my first tikiwiki install... i'm a complete n00b tikiwiki-wise
well, i did read 600 pages of the 900 pages pdf :)
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ricks99tiki_p_view_categorized is a *group* permission -- not a category permission [12:01]
chibaguyHave you assigne tiki_p_view_categorized to any group? [12:01]
ricks99u cannot assign tiki_p_view_categorized to a category. only to a group [12:01]
gmcchibaguy: not at the moment, but i had it assigned to anonymous (as my problem is that i can't seem to have anonymous users view categorized pages)
i'll tra that again
s/tra/try/
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chibaguyAh, ok, I misread the form . . "assign tiki_p_view_categorized to group ____ for this page" [12:03]
gmcright, i gave anonymous the view_categorized perm.. but still can't view the page when not admin [12:04]
chibaguy...er, "for this category" [12:04]
ricks99gmc: did u assign tiki_p_view_categories to group Anonymous for that category? [12:05]
gmcchibaguy: what form? i'm afraid you've lost me
ricks99: was checking that..
ricks99: yes i did
in fact, all three groups have that permission for the category
[12:05]
ricks99and there are no individual permissions on the page (click the PERMS button at the bottom of that wiki page) [12:06]
chibaguysorry, I was looking at the "Assign permissions to category" page for a category (tiki-categpermissions.php?categId=32 for example) [12:06]
gmcricks99: no, no object permissions are defined.. the perms page for that wiki page shows the categorie permissions though, i a seperate table [12:07]
ricks99hmm.. shoudl work then. are you caching wiki pages maybe? [12:07]
gmchmm, there's no cache in front of the server, if that's what you mean.. is there caching in tikiwiki itself that i might not be aware of? [12:08]
ricks99on admin: wiki page, look at the "cache wiki pages" option [12:08]
gmcsays '0 (no cache)'
hey.. but now i cleaned out the cache under 'Tiki Cache/Sys Admin' in the admin menu, and it works..!
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ricks99:) [12:11]
gmcghaa :) [12:11]
ricks99(that was my next step) [12:11]
gmccan i disable caching entirely?? just while i'm settingup this install / getting to grips with tikiwiki? [12:11]
ricks99not sure.
the caching is used so that smarty does not have to re-compile the templates for each viewing
[12:12]
gmci wonder how that affects category permission handling then..
(before i forget btw, thanks all of you who helped me!!)
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ricks99i think because the page is cached with the old permission setting [12:14]
gmcjust to be sure, i'm now going to remove the view_categories from the category again, and see if it is blocked again [12:15]
ricks99the view_categories just grants pemission to view the category onthe tiki_browse-categories page [12:15]
gmcah, so then my next question would be: how can i allow viewing of certain categories to certain groups only?
hey, now 'tiki_p_view_categorized' is in the pull down on the assign permissions to category page..
i guess that was cached too..
good to know.. 'in case of vagueness, clear the cache' :)
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ricks99view_categoried lets you view the items that have been categoried, view categoreis lets you browse the category (also used for things like displaying the catpath)
see the note at the top of System Admin page:
"If your Tiki is acting weird, first thing to try is to clear your cache below"
:)
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chibaguyricks99, btw, what's up with info.tw.o? [12:19]
gmcit only says that once you're in the tiki cache page though :) [12:19]
ricks99hm... max connections ?
dont know....
i think that's marc's server
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gmcwell thanks again guys, i can have lunch now :) [12:20]
chibaguyglad it worked out ok finally, gmc.. [12:20]
gmcexpect more questions from me :) at some point, i might even turn into a contributor.. (i'm fleeing from twiki, which is currently in a bit of a political mess) [12:21]
ricks99gmc: see <shamlessplug> http://twbasics.keycontent.org </shamelessplug> for noob help [12:22]
gmcah cool, a nice addition to the 'all in one pdf' documentation. which is exhaustive but a bit dry :) [12:23]
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PS|botSVN: Commit by sampaioprimo :: r 14529 /branches/2.0/lang/pt-br/language.php: pt-br translation [13:13]
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sylviegdoc.tw.org the reference page gives me the fr page :-(
fixed - it was because of the fr alias for the structure
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realazthatI'm having trouble with the image gallery
I've uploaded about 5 gb of images
some images won't show at all
the thiumbnails are too large
and they don't follow the settings for images per row
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chibaguyrealazthat, what version of Tiki? [13:44]
realazthat2.0
I think
I keep trying to "Rebuild Thumbnails" to no avail
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chibaguyDoes the gallery admin page indicate what library is found -- GD or imagik? [13:46]
realazthatGD [13:46]
chibaguyWhat kind of files are the images? png, jpg or gif? [13:46]
realazthatjpg [13:46]
chibaguyHmm, should work. [13:46]
realazthatI uploaded them without setting the scale and thumbnail size
I set those settings after
but images per row is 6, even though it is now set to 3
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chibaguyI haven't done much with galleries in Tiki 2.....
Maybe try making a new gallery and setting the scale and thumbnail size first, then uploading to it.
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realazthatI'm trying to avoid having to do that with 5GB [13:48]
chibaguyI know hindsight is 20-20, but maybe it would've been good to try things out on a small scale first. [13:49]
realazthatI suppose [13:49]
chibaguyThese images all went into one gallery? [13:50]
realazthatI didn't expect the batch dir to be emptied
no
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chibaguyWell, I'd suggest doing the small test just to check that the process works. [13:52]
realazthatgood idea
I'm trying
I'm still disappointed that the data gets lost so easily
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chibaguyI don't know what happens with uploads that big, in terms of memory and time limits, etc. [13:52]
realazthatthe upload was successful
all the pics are there
its really an html error
the images arent sized
so it overflows
and for some reason it is showing 6 / row
even though I set it to 3
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chibaguydamn, I just spent 20 minutes trying to figure out why my table-based themes were broken . . . . then remembered I had turned on "disable tables" in my browser.
maybe it's bed time here in the far east.....
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chibaguyrealazthat, I tried changing the number of thumbs per row and it doesn't change. I think it's a bug. [14:27]
realazthatthanks
what about the size?
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chibaguyNo effect, again. I cleared the caches, too. [14:29]
PS|botSVN: Commit by sept_7 :: r 14530 /trunk/templates/tiki-upload_file.tpl: [ENH] forget last commit about tiki-upload_file, sylvie try this one, with tables... not very nice but robust... [14:30]
chibaguyHeh, the thumb changes work in Tiki 1.9. I just checked. Plus you can specify per gallery. [14:33]
realazthatis it possible to downgrade? [14:33]
chibaguyAs far as the files are concerned, just overwrite the existing ones. Not sure about how to easily change the database, though
Or if it's necessary to.
Do you have a lot of content in your site already?
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realazthatmainly the images [14:35]
chibaguyMaybe someone can look at the 2.0 gallery config trouble.
But I don't know how soon.
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ParagtimHi all, I am trying to do a registration tracker that has a radio button AcceptDecline for EULA. HowWhere do I code the the decline to cancel the registration? [15:14]
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ricks99@Paragtim: can u just make it a required filed? [15:40]
ParagtimA radio is what the suits want, Set with Accept as the default. No problem there. Its just that should someone decline the EULA the registarion process should stopcancel. Or am I over complicating things? [15:43]
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ricks99not sure how to do that. would b simplier with a single radio button that says" by continuing u accept eula" [16:01]
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ParagtimI may be a little overly focused on this - but is that not pretty much the same thing - No way to automatically cancel out of the registration process. Not too bothered how I get there (Can make it look pretty afterwards) but need a "no accept no register "sort of solution if that is possible. I was hoping the registration tracker would get me there! [16:07]
ricks99the registration tracker will work, but u will have to customize the code to handle if "NO" is selected
by default, you can make the Y/N field required, but Im not aware of any tiki-way to have a differnent destintaiton based on the response
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ParagtimThats where I was hoping to go, but got to the same place you have. Do you think it can be something that can be coded An AcceptDecline or ELAU seems like a pretty cool function? [16:17]
sylviegif you do like ricks99 says about a mandatory field - it will work [16:19]
ricks99sylvieg: all "manadatory" checks is if you selected Y or N. will it send u to adifferent page, depending on your response? [16:20]
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sylviegno this is not done yet - but now you can not register if a mandatory field is not filled [16:21]
ricks99right. but simply making a y/n mandaary will not work for paragtim
i can select N and continue. this is not the desired result
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ParagtimI will try it and see what comes back [16:22]
ricks99would, instead, need a SINGLE field
use a checkbox with I ACCEPT and make it mandatory
if the user does not check it and continue, they cannot register
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ParagtimI can see what Sylvieg means. It does stop the registration process. Effectively the user is in a loop as the screen says its a manatory field and presents the registering user with the ability to fill in the missing info. Not quite where I wanted to go but a very large step in the right direction [16:30]
sylviegyou can perhaps trick
.... thrte is TRACKERITEMFIELD taht test the value of a field
do you have a limitted number of pages
because in this case you can use TRACKERITEMFIELD at the top of each apge
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ParagtimSorry Sylvieg I don't understand
The tracker only needs accept and the date
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ittosdeHi lphuberdeau_, you had asked me to do a fresh install for a blank screen after uploading an attachment [16:43]
lphuberdeau_does it work? [16:45]
marclaportetoo many people on info.tw.o...
need better server...
amette: : help!
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ahh ok [16:47]
Paragtimmarc - how many is too many and can I help? Off chat if you want
Reseller account, No bandwidth charges, unlimited domain names
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lphuberdeau_ittosde, it might be related to your set-up or a combinaison of parameters, because I just tries locally and it works fine [16:55]
marclaporteThat is what I have
not quite enough....
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ParagtimWill help where I can - Not clever enough to do clevr things but space and bandwidth perhaps a mirror is something I can help with [16:57]
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marclaporteParagtim: : thank you [16:58]
ParagtimYour welcome - Have a think and let me know [16:58]
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ittosdeIt didn't work....I got the same blank screen. [27-Aug-2008 11:18:57] PHP Fatal error: Call to a member function fetchRow() on a non-object in F:Inetpubwwwroottikiwikitestlibuserslib.php on line 1468
let me try ON the server and see what happens.
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lphuberdeau_from the installer, load the secdb script, then go in admin / security admin and run "check all tiki files" [17:07]
ittosdeok, stand by [17:10]
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ittosdeOk, here it is so far. From server, I uploaded a file. It worked. From server, I uploaded the word doc, I get blank screen. I can't believe I didn't try this earlier, but from remote, I upload a 143K pdf and it works. the 1.1M doc does not [17:22]
amettemarclaporte: yes, I'll handle that this week! [17:25]
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ittosdelphuberdeau_. Ok ran the secdb script. Checked all tiki files. I think something is up w/ larger attachments. I increased my PHP.INI max upload to 10MB. Alas, I can't upload anything larger than 1MB.
I've changed the forum to permit 50000000 bytes too
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lphuberdeau_you need to change the max_post_size or something like that in php.ini too
upload size alone is not enough
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ittosdeI did that one too :)
changed both
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ittosdeIf I upload a larger file, I get the tiki response stating the file size is too large [18:22]
lphuberdeau_that's good
means it's not crashing
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ittosdeok. tried to upload a file that was 760K, got blank screen. Did one that was 496, it worked [18:26]
I'm saving to database too [18:31]
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xavi1polom
marclaporte ?
he seem not to be here...
wiki-translation.com seems to have a mysql table crashed....
oups, guessing and trial and error worked! :-) w-t is back again
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xavi1marclaporte, I was talking about you (to you, in fact, even if you were not here... and you came back magically :-) [19:34]
marclaportehehe [19:34]
xavi1this "tiki-magic" is very surprising :-) [19:34]
marclaportemarclaporte is in NY
xavi1: : still lots to do but it
's going to be a little revolution
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xavi1ok, forget issue about w-t: back up & running again [19:35]
marclaporteok [19:35]
xavi1ok, have to go back to work on w-t.
enjoy your visit to NY
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xavi1btw, marclaporte, some days ago I talked by phone with Javier Reyes... [19:36]
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xavi1... and he doesn't seem to be able to attend tikifest in Porto...
.... even if he told me he had been continued with the AulaWiki (& workspaces) prototype...
I encouraged him to create a new branch experimental on svn for his workspaces...
...but I wonder if he have done that already...
maybe a short message by you encouraging him to do so (so that other people can review the state of the art of what he is doing, etc. during the TikiFestPorto, since AulaWiki is in the roadmap for those days...)
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marclaporteok
xavi1: : I am in NY for 3 hours, before I go to Europe :-)
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xavi1:-) never stoping too much in the same place, eh? :-) [19:41]
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xavi1ok, have to leave. cheers [19:47]
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NarksterAnyone know if you can login via the url?
i.e.: tiki-index.php?user=guy&pass=love
I got as far as getting the tiki-login.php?user=guy to "hardcode" "guy" where the user textbox was
but that's about it
Ultimately my plan is to access the wiki/article RSS feeds with something like http://website/tiki-wiki_rss.php?ver=2&user=guy&pass=love
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ittosdelphuberdeau_, I am really stumped. Have been working on this all day? I don't know if it's an IIS issue or a PHP issue or a TIKI issue, due to fatal error at that line number [22:09]
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