got minichat working :) but now my horizontal phplayers menu is broken. :( dunno if there's any relationship btw the two. hi all---still fighting with V2.0, but think i will like it. Is the minichat module working yet? Does anyone knew if the miriest Module works ? minichat Ikeco, yes, it works, but needs a perm added to tiki_features. I mean a feature added, a new row that has feature_minichat y . Can this be done from admin screen? no, you need to access Tiki's database. There's no admin gui yet for it. or must add from phpmyadmin? kk That's right. chibaguy: If you have 5mn your comment about the button style (in devel list) will be greatly appreciated - after pkdille+me can do the job ;-) just add the row? Ikeco yes thanks hi sylieg, ok. Basically just use the div and anchor tag, without special class, right? sylvieg (still waking up) no sure withiout class is a good idea chiba, to which table? tki_preferences think we ned to simplifu but ot to much tiki_preferences To me the class is redundant if the hierarchy/path is sufficient. I do not know very weel - sorry - all your themes - but if
whatis 3rules '3rules' could be 1. Preserve Environment 2. Commit early, Commit often 3. Make it Optional ( for more info see http://dev.tikiwiki.org/3rules ) MatWho: Do you understand and agree to these rules? YES Great! :) You passed the first step! :) Second step: What is your sf.net account name? MatWho ok, very well done! You even passed step two! You're good at that! :) :) (some admin fiddles in background and gives MatWho commit rights to the repository) But now!! Third and most difficult step! Thanks Gulp! 3. Welcome to the committers, MatWho !!! :D :) :) :) Great to have you here, man! :) Yes to you all :) hmmm, seems noone noticed this ceremony... usually all chime in and welcome the guy.. ;) ... or well, perhaps people aren't used to it any more.. ;) But I'm sure everyone loves you and welcomes you here! :) Welcome MattWho - Sorry was catching up and missed it Tanks amette I think the ceremony is great, I feels at one with #tikiwiki and all who hang out on it! glad to hear that :) Paragtim: Thanks luciash: great Your more than welcome now to find some more bugs!! That's the spirit! :) MatWho: you mean to fix some more bugs, right ? ;) That's the spirit! ;P oh yes, well if I can ;) if not I will just paste the code in to the IRC and see how long I last!! <- joking, dont panic Back Soon luciash: not a good start getting someone in trouble for helping out! just kidding... ok, heating time here, too, bbl :) what is the correct way to modify a table in trunk, I would like to add a field, in the webmail, how do I do this without causing problems on upgrades etc sorry I missed the ceremony. Welcome, MatWho! :-) thanks My tikiwiki system can't search, any time I run a search on the "entire site" or a section of the site, I get no result, even if I search for an exact article name the page displays correctly, and I don't see an error, any suggestions? and nothing in the apache error log tiki search or mysql search? which tiki version? 2, but I think I've fond something, using different mod now, brdb ok, sorry for asking for help and not having my information straight I'm using the search_box module, which works, but the search at the very top of the page does not how can I disable search at the top? its not a module, is it part of the template or something? admin->LOOK AND FEEL thanks is there a reason for the repeated 'Browsing Image: ' in templates/tiki-browse_image.tpl on line 16 and 18? it looks sorta funky.. guess i could hide one with css, but.. still seems.. odd luciash: you're welcome we talked about the ceremony in Porto - so this came naturally.. ;) amette: maybe you should mention that this was a late evening discussion ;) btw - this was a late evening discussion ;) amette, I missed my flight too on the way back, but it was not the first one, so it was OK LOL! How did you manage? Also overslept? But you could get another one for cheap? Weren't you bound to the flight you booked? I had two connections missed the last one they just booked me on the next flight... which was 4 hours later aaah, ok - well, that's not so bad then ;) just a bit annoying US customs had some equipment out of order, so they were painfully slow looking for terrorists hehehe :P I did not get fingerprinted, but a few ahead of me did yeah, well, you are canadian - you are pretty well off - but I belong to the "old europe", they will fingerprint me.. ;) his crime: too many parties! amette the butterlfy LOL :P actually - probably my mugshot will soon be up on my website... ;) open house parties are the best ;) ... wanted to do that since - err, one year now actually.. :-/ - cause in germany we now have biometrical mugshots for our passports, so I thought of publishing mine... I'll let you know, when I manage.. ;) :-) and yes, open house parties really _are_ the best! Had the best open space of all WikiSym with Peter at the house the last evening!! :) need to read his paper still, only read the abstract so far, but seems to be interesting - and knowing him, I'm pretty sure that there is some smart stuff written in it yes, what a lucky open space and btw - heck - you're going to get chibaguy to Montreal in November? :( re :) I'd love to meet him, but I can't go in november... :-/ mugshot ? butterfly ? ... I hoped so much for march! luciash: the butterfly will be explained in my blog-post... and the mugshot, well... :P yeah, that was the first I was looking for, too ;) amette: heheh, ok *g* marclaporte: I think for everyone it could be more beneficial to do it in march during PHP Quebec as it was planned at first... probably more tiki-people there, a conference in parallel to meet even more people... wasn't november supposed to be in strasbourg anyway? my impression is that the march one is still valid yes, march is still valid for sure... if Gary is going then, too - well, ok ;) yeah, true, november is also strasbourg... but well, there were at least three tikifests in this month, too ;) but I really think that something like Montreal, where there are lots of TikiFolks and which is far from Europe (and Japan) and which could be during a conference... ... well, would imho make sense to fly in all the guys at the same time and not on two seperate dates.. .. no special StylingFest then, but that doesn't really matter.. that can be done during a 'regular' TikiFest, too... ... _and_ I'd love to be part of that MarketingFest, too! ;) can split people, happens often yeah exactly brilliant *g* I was about to say that!!! :P (that's my favourite running-gag here now... my flatsharer has to laugh with me already, too ;) ) marc would like to focus on design, branding+marketing this time so he probably got the idea because there's Webcom conference in November probably want it done before 3.0 would make sense still waiting on patrick's new theme http://www.webcom-montreal.com/ heheh, "From Blender to Obama: Web Video as an Inescapable Communication Tool" → http://www.webcom-montreal.com/programmation.php?j=1 Is there a way to add a "user submits an article watch" for ALL users? coffee break (wanna make this particular "pull" feature just a bit pushy) :) we have opportunity because Matthew and Pauline can come in November for marketing/branding/design TikiFest MacLeod: sure, via db sql update query ;) and Patrick is a bit stuck with lack of general branding strategy better to do branding as a group, so it represents better the community And, yes, we need to start now, so it's well embedded in 3.0 March 2009 still stands marketing and branding - exactly - wanna be there... :-/ ... I even could get a cheap flight, my only problem is that I don't have holidays left! :( You need more TikiWork! but well, ok, if opportunity is good, then gotta go for it! marclaporte: ;) amette: : email me what you need to be there I'll see what I can do but this will be more work and less party :-) marclaporte: holidays from my day job ;) marclaporte: I know, but good work!! cheap countries are bad for productivity lph: LOL marclaporte: amette needs you to write his boss to give him extra holidays ;) luckily at least my bro understands me :P sometimes, I have to negociate with girlfriends, sometimes, bosses :-) LOL LOL :P webcom is just one day, only the 12th, right? right yes, one day http://econterms.net/pbmeyer/research/tinker/tinker4f.pdf -> This is Peter's paper, that we were refering to earlier and this is the brilliant we were referreing to earlier: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BVuMODhujI ;) good to hear :) is there any quick way for an admin to remove a single freetag across the entire domain? (plz don't say sql update, plz don't say sql update...) sql upda.... errr... dunno... ;) but really, I don't think so... there was nothing back then and I don't find anything in the common places nowadays - but I'm not authoritative here @macleod: no.u have to untag it from all items first kthx. that's not so bad unless it's tagged to a LOT of items. in that case you can still use sql upda... errr... ;) * rick also wants a way to tag multiple items at once, similar to category admin ... and better logic on the 'suggest a tag' items but other than that freetags rock. flat navigation is the *bomb* :) :) freetags do rock. i've read about them and understood the appeal, but this is the first time i've worked with them. ricks99, last time I checked, that logic was "random" not very 'logical' shouldn't be too hard to invert the reccommended pages query to throw reccommended tags are you talking about the suggested tags in the edit-page form? y y, in the edit page form ah. yeah, random's kinda silly. most popular would make more sense but still not optimal no. should be keyed agains the text if the word "foo" appears in the text 100 times (and there is already a "foo" tag) it should be 'recommended' if the word "foo" makes 1% of the text and another text that is made up of approx. 1% of the word "foo" and is tagged as "bar" then suggest "bar" On dev.tw.o, how do I reach bug 1291? I was looking at 1291, but the URL did not point at that tracker item. I'm not finding a way to jump to a bug number without looking through a list. dev.tikiwiki.org/Bug1291 that used to work i've been wondering about the value of tagging a page with a word that appears 100x, since it will already show up high in the search results. Yea, that's probably a .htaccess shortcut. similar tags are usually provided by clustering tags only works if you already have a few of them OK, I added Anonymous-only caching code in a Comment to http://dev.tikiwiki.org/bug1291 if someone wants to decide if that's a good solution. sewilico2, we had already discussed that as a solution before and does sound decent just need someone to do it ;) Yup, I had to resort to that solution. It's the simplest with the current single-cache design. feel free to apply the patch I think I don't have patching permission. Didn't work last time I tried. just had to ask registered on sourceforge? Yeah, let me check under which name. smells like ceremony ;) tags are differnt than search I don't have admin rights, but I'm sure marclaporte, sylvieg, luciash or some other admin are around time to stop working.. still not fully recovered from jet lag yeah, then it's probably a really good idea... I messed up today at work too because of being tired... lph: SF name is "sewilco". I'm going through expired PW process, so it at least recognized my name. SEWilco2_: lph left and we need some admin anyways... ... so you want to have commit rights? ... and my Internet link just crashed too. yeah, I noticed you know how it works? amette: Yup, I often need to be committed. ok, that's good :) but do you know how it works to get commit rights here? There is a three step process... The code checks out, the code checks in, the community chews on it, and it goes all about. ... which is called the ceremony. I'm all out of candles. well, you seem to know how working works, that's good! :) :) luciash: you're there? luciash: we need an admin! hmm, why my pc speaker beeps ? ah :) yeah :) luciash: you're ready to bring SEWilco2_ through the ceremony? :) sure :) great :) you do the master of ceremony? I can play the trumpet. ;) heheh, ok, what was the first question ? i think it was answered already, right ? nope, the first is the most important... ... just as with the rules - the first is the most importan! ;) hmmm, lemme scroll back :-p LOL :P SEWilco2_: we are working on it, don't worry! ;) But this is important! If you don't manage it, you won't be allowed to commit! me neither ;) MacLeod: very good idea! ok, SEWilco2_ , read this: >whatis 3rules '3rules' could be 1. Preserve Environment 2. Commit early, Commit often 3. Make it Optional ( for more info see http://dev.tikiwiki.org/3rules ) SEWilco2_: you have to conform to it that's the first step ;) yes, understand and agree I do so solemnly swear, vociferously trice so. you should read the full version, if you don't understand (and you should read it anyways actually every once in a while) if you're fine with our 3rules, then we're fine to advance to the step two ;) pretty well done, SEWilco2_ - let's get to step two :) My SF login is "sewilco". hmmmm..... hmm, i just thought SEWilco2_ still reads the more info page :-p 21:41 < SEWilco2_> I do so solemnly swear, vociferously trice so. this ceremony is a bit long-winded.... ;) ROFL, i've been reading sweat instead of swear :-p hmmm..... :P but step 2 is already done guys ;) "# Project TikiWiki CMS/Groupware (registered 2002-10-07 15:51) " I didn't realize I'd been tinkering with TW for that long. so, let's get to step three!! step 3) welcome to the TikiWiki developers family SEWilco2 ! :) Welcome to committers SEWilco2 !! :) w00t ! :) oh, you're in a mental institution? ;) OK, now let's see about making optional making it optional: :) LOL Should I create a configuration option to control whether Wiki caching is only done for Anonymous, or just make it only work for anonymous? Caching is basically broken for any non-homogeneous groups of user permissions. yeah, a configuration option sounds like a good way to make it optional... ;) .... but I don't know the whole story on the other hand. http://dev.tikiwiki.org/bug1291 shows the problem. The first viewer or updater creates the cache, but others with different privileges then see the cache. Most common are non-functional edit icons appearing. If {GROUP} is being used, page content can be different between groups. Because only one cache exists for a page (stored within the DB entry for the page), either the permission domain of the cache has to be stored and tested... or only the most popular group's stuff gets cached. From the assumption that most readers will be Anonymous, the workaround is to only cache for anonymous readers. hmmm, still a workaround... and e.g. on an intranet the assumption is that most readers are Registered, but not Editors nkoth3 commented on that bug, too and he is not sure about what to do... he asks for dev-input... are you on devel-list SEWilco2 ? you should post there to ask for more input... And once we get into which user groups, then it gets messy. Particularly because the "categorized" ability promises to heighten differences. Yup.. I'll devel-list it. ok, cool, thanks! I've been using specialized permissions since the days of MULTICS. My TW permissions are starting to get interesting. In one TW site I have one "Group Category Administrator" that's getting a little crowded.. we're starting to populate categories so I gave several people temporary cat admin. i'd try if the perms/group matches the next user, keep displaying cached, otherwise refresh the cache, if it's possible... that would really make caching rather useless... as you'd be refreshing the cache rather often... depending on the environment... but i must admit i don't see the background mechanism how the wiki page caching actually works well, for complicated environment with many different perms/groups it's really useles to put the caching on even maybe combining with the anonymous/registered only group could help SEWilco: : I think only caching for anonymous and no options would be ok. Current behavior is a bug and I don't see why someone would want to keep it. I don't see why someone would need caching for an Intranet I'm particularly not overly concerned because it's only a slight performance thing. I'm suggesting to devel list that Anon-only be done to close the bug; someone can later extend it if they want more features. SEWilco : +1 +1 Funny? +1 Hammer of Laughter. +1 : I agree with your proposal :-) +5 Paddle of Destiny with Gluteal Shock 1/round **THWACK!** OK, so the User Preferences, My Tiki, etc. interface is a bit different when Ajax is enabled... what I'm wondering is, "Why?" Before, whether I had a link to User Prefs, User Watches, or whatever, there were icons underneath the page title to get the user to the other areas. With Ajax enabled, the User Prefs page has no icons. Hmm. Client wants blogs which can be associated with various domain names. That's going to be fun to let them administer without giving them Apache admin rights. I think I can use Apache to rewrite URLs from a domain to a TikiWiki blog. Aha.. I remember an Apache2 interface to a database for rewriting things.