#tikiwiki 2008-09-22,Mon

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Who	What	When
gillesMMM	salut marc	[00:08]
danopia	opps?	[00:20]
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Nightwork	hello all	[00:22]
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Nightwork	Is it possible to create section of my wiki for different topics I would like to put several pages into a folder to group them together	[00:22]
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Nightwork	so the address would look somethine like www.mysite.com/tikiwiki/folder1/tiki-index.php?page=PageName is that possible or do I need to make several wikis and link them together?	[00:24]
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marclaporte	categories?	[00:51]
	Nightwork : ^^ http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Category	[00:56]
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gillesMMM	alors marc bien rentré ?	[01:22]
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chibaguy	About the phpfreechat wiki plugin, trying to set it up with Admin Mods causes an error because not all necessary files are transferred, as they aren't listed in its Packages info file. But even when I move all the files manually, I only get a "Chat loading.... please wait" in my wiki page. (Disclaimer: this is on my laptop WAMP, not a real server.) Is anybody using the phpfreechat wikiplugin successfully in Tiki 2.0, I wonder? Related question: this plugin apparently needs a separate lib/.phpfreechat directory full of files -- about 4.5MB. I guess this should be transferred intact with Admin Mods if the plugin is transferred. lib/phpfreechat Even the files not strictly necessary for the chat to work. (But before editing the Packages info txt file to do that transfer, I'd like to see the plugin working.	[01:55]
marclaporte	gillesMMM: : now in Washington	[02:01]
gillesMMM	:) une fille dans chaque capitale !	[02:13]
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chibaguy	Tried phpfreechat on another site and got the same message, so will wait to do anything about its Admin Mods installation until it can be confirmed that the plugin works after being installed manually.	[02:20]
luciash	polom polom hi chibaguy ! sorry, no phpfreechat experience :(	[02:23]
chibaguy	hi luciash, I was just checking because some errors were reported. But even with all the files in place, something is stopping it from loading, it seems.	[02:31]
luciash	i wonder it's the <x> again :( i suspect	[02:34]
chibaguy	A lot of lines show up in the page source (http://zukakakina.com/phpfreechat ) but give me no clues. I don't see any <x> though.	[02:51]
luciash	hmm, i'm not sure about hot to config it but i'd look for 'var pfc = null; // will contains a pfcClient instance', 'var pfc_server_script_url = "tiki-phpfreechat_ajax.php";' and '<div id="pfc_container"><!-- Will contains chat.html.tpl.php --></div> if they're available i don't see any <x> too :) also it seems it uses phpfreechat included prototype JS so maybe try switching mootools or ajax off if it doesn't somewhat conflict ? but it's just a wild guess ;) bbl	[02:58]
chibaguy	ok thanks :-)	[03:01]
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Geoffrey	anyone using the ldap plugin?	[03:28]
chibaguy	Geoffrey, no (speaking for myself). But this is the quiet time of day here. You might want to check again in 8 or 10 hours.	[03:31]
Geoffrey	my tea time! yep! thanks I am in Hong Kong!	[03:31]
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PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by chibaguy :: r 14792 /mods/trunk/themes/ohia/templates/styles/ohia/tiki-bot_bar.tpl: [ENH] Deprecated img border="0" removed.	[06:00]
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	SVN: Commit by chibaguy :: r 14793 /mods/trunk/ (28 files in 7 dirs): [NEW] Eatlon theme (see original at http://eatlon.com/work/eatlon/, Tiki demo at http://zukakakina.com/Eatlon ). Flexible "fixed-width" design with light blues and greys.	[06:17]
chibaguy	Eatlon download: http://themes.tikiwiki.org/tiki-directory_redirect.php?siteId=60	[06:19]
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stix	hi guys Does anyone know if it is possible to display the content of a category on a wiki-page?	[08:01]
chibaguy	stix, you can use the Category wiki plugin. http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=PluginCategory	[08:06]
stix	ah thank you :)	[08:10]
chibaguy	sure	[08:11]
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henjrv	I've upgraded tikiwiki from 1.10 to 2.0 but in the "General preferences and settings" tab it shows "Tikiwiki version: 1.10.0b1" however in all php files where version is mentioned there it is 2.0 so which version do I have ?	[09:11]
stix	what does local.php say?	[09:12]
henjrv	2.0	[09:12]
stix	have you noticed the icons changed in the admin generel section? administration home	[09:14]
henjrv	i don't have access into tikiwiki so dont know	[09:15]
stix	okay when you edit a wiki-page it also looks different there's a new toolbar	[09:16]
henjrv	too bad but i don't have any access into tikiwiki i can see only login screen	[09:17]
stix	okay	[09:17]
henjrv	is there any other way to make sure what it is 2.0 ? And or change version numer shown i n preferences tab?	[09:21]
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MatWho	its Monday morning here in Portugal :(	[10:00]
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luciash	hey MatWho, it's weird but it's monday morning here too :(	[10:54]
MatWho	no	[10:54]
luciash	no ? que no ? :)	[10:55]
MatWho	Is there a smiley for "ironic smile"? :)	[10:56]
luciash	hmm :]	[10:59]
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MatWho	One site I just found suggests %-{ it will have to do	[11:10]
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ricks99	hi all :)	[11:11]
MatWho	[:)	[11:13]
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luciash	hi ricks99 :)	[11:24]
ricks99	hi luciash :)	[11:28]
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marclaporte	polom	[12:23]
MatWho	hi marc	[12:36]
luciash	polom, marc :)	[12:50]
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PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14796 /trunk/ (lib/ointegratelib.php tiki-listpages.php): [FIX] Removing hardcoded paths	[13:18]
	SVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14797 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [NEW] Allow to copy template in form from suggestion SVN: Commit by sylvieg :: r 14794 /trunk/templates/tiki-register.tpl: [FIX]ergistration: remember antibot if email is incorrect + fix remember group + take the float style (for tikinewt)	[13:24]
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stix	How can I insert the login-module on a wiki-page? I would like to get rid of the login-box when a user is logged ind. There is no need for it to be there. It should only be visible on the startpage for anon-users	[13:42]
sylvieg	{MODULE(name=login_box) /}	[13:43]
stix	I have assigned the login-module only to anonymous group but it seems like the other groups inherit it	[13:43]
sylvieg	sorry .. {MODULE(module=>login_box) /}	[13:43]
stix	thanks sylvieg do you also know if I can assign the module so that only anon-users see it?	[13:43]
lphuberdeau	take a look at the GROUP plugin	[13:46]
stix	hmm okay, will do	[13:46]
sylvieg	three is also an option in admin->modules where you say Hide anonymous-only modules from registered users:	[13:47]
marclaporte	polom luciash	[13:47]
ricks99	i believe the "hide anonymous only" only refers to modules in the left/right column. i don't think it works with the MODULE plugin	[13:47]
stix	ricks99, that's okay, cause it is exactly what I need :)	[13:48]
marclaporte	ricks99: : saw message about pickle book?	[13:48]
ricks99	o... thought u were trying to display it in a wiki page pickle book? no. did see ur email wrt blog, 1 per page... why 1 per page? see http://tikiwiki.org/ricksrequests, esp. gary's comments	[13:48]
marclaporte	ricks99: : I see now	[13:51]
ricks99	(not that anyone actually reads my blog) ;-P	[13:52]
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MatWho_	I just did :) marclapickle: How are you on this fine day	[14:17]
stix	How can I display this rss-feed on a wiki-page: http://nyhederne.tv2.dk/rss/nyhederne.xml ?	[14:22]
MatWho_	marclaporte: is it OK to commit back a change to the spanky.css file, it makes the magic menu visible on the safari browser? Or should I send the changes to the developer and let them do it?	[14:23]
ricks99	@stix: use an rss feed. see the docs http://doc.tikiwiki.org/RSS+User	[14:23]
stix	ricks99, wow that was easy, I only saw the other module where I create the feed myself :)	[14:24]
ricks99	tikiwiki == easy :)	[14:27]
stix	I have tried with several rss feeds and everytime I click to view the feed it just says "content for the feed" and then nothing. Am I missing something?	[14:31]
ricks99	did u update the feed?	[14:32]
stix	yes I did and no errors occur	[14:33]
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ricks99	hmm.. looks like it is broken in 2.0 ? i cant get any new rss modules to work	[14:45]
stix	hmm I cannot google anyone else with the problem	[14:47]
ricks99	i cant seem to create any new RSS modules	[14:48]
stix	I can do that just fine but they are all 0 kb	[14:48]
ricks99	y. thats the error im having	[14:49]
stix	but it can fetch feeds from the previously added ones?	[14:50]
ricks99	is your tiki prehaps behind a firewall? check ur proxy settings?	[14:50]
stix	I guess it only needs to connect to a server on port 80 tcp doesn't seem to be the problem. I created an allow all-rule and it didn't help	[14:51]
ricks99	my issue was proxy. on my test server, i set the proxy and now it is working	[14:52]
stix	hmm I don't use a proxy server okay it seemed to work anyway :) just need a little patience	[14:53]
ricks99	working now?	[14:54]
stix	yes it is	[14:54]
sylvieg	ricks99: I fixed this morning in trunk : freetag and perm checking + antibot at regsitration when wroing @	[14:54]
stix	althoug it is fucking up whenever there is a danish special letter :)	[14:54]
ricks99	@ sylvieg. tx. for freetag, if tag "foo" is used only by pages that user does not have permission, will the tag "foo" be omitted from the tag cloud?	[14:55]
stix	well that was only one of the feeds, so it's not my problem :)	[14:55]
ricks99	or will it still appear in the cloud, but just not show any items when user clicks it?	[14:56]
sylvieg	ricks99: I thought about this - no :-( not so easy .... perhaps we need a perm tiki_p_view_freetag	[14:56]
ricks99	k... so the tag cloud will show all tags -- regardless of perm?	[14:57]
sylvieg	yes and the weight will be regardless the perms... :-(	[14:57]
ricks99	k... halfway there. tx :)	[14:57]
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nikhilodeon	Hi, I had closed the following item at dev.tw.o, but wanted to find a better solution: TikiWiki 2.0: Filtering Search Results http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=2024&trackerId=5 am trying to refine the query used to search for pages, if anyone can point me in the right direction	[15:09]
lphuberdeau	could categories help you? have some sort of category for all of your content pages, not the included ones, and restrict search to that category	[15:11]
nikhilodeon	hmm - sure i could try that can that filtering be set from the UI screens, or do the php files need to be modified?	[15:14]
lphuberdeau	I don't know much about search... I just use google to search in tiki tiki-listpages.php has a category search option I guess the site search does not have that	[15:14]
nikhilodeon	yeah let me check the list-pages i put in a workaround, but the problem is, there is a discrepancy between the number of results and what is displayed on the page, which is not good	[15:16]
lphuberdeau	that's a common problem because of the permission checks, tiki is generally inconsistent with the amount of results displayed per page	[15:17]
nikhilodeon	ah i see	[15:19]
ricks99	@nikhiloedon: i had a similar request to omit specific pages when using print	[15:19]
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MatWho_	lphuberdeau: Hi there, do you have time for a quick chat about profiles? quick = 2 mins	[15:28]
lphuberdeau	sure	[15:32]
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MatWho_	great, This is to save me a lot of rummaging through code. I was planning create a tracker auto-magically when a wiki page is created and stick the correct plugin in to it so ti is all ready to use. Can I use the profiles system to do this? ti - it	[15:35]
lphuberdeau	uh, I don't get what you're trying to do	[15:36]
MatWho_	I will have a link in my new module - lets say called create - when it is pressed a new wiki page will be created, the user will see it and on it will be a TRACKER Plug-in to allow them to start adding items to tracker. The tracker was just created with out them knowing. is that better?	[15:38]
lphuberdeau	at this time, profiles are meant to be installed once but is this part of your install/configuration process? I don't think you will have any problem with calling the profile installer library directly from a module	[15:42]
MatWho_	I guessed as much, but I really need to find a way to do this after installation. Ratherbtan reinvent the wheel I thought I might ask Oh great, can you work out a way I can do this without "stepping on your toes" all the time?	[15:44]
lphuberdeau	you just need to load a profile and send it to the installer	[15:49]
MatWho_	ok I will have a play! See what I can do with it. Thanks Ding - 2 mins is up.	[15:50]
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nikhilodeon	hi - i am trying to use a plugin to reference a javascript .js file but keep getting the white blank screen of death whenever i try to click save on a quickedit page...anyone have any suggestions?	[18:51]
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MatWho_	which plug-in or are you writing one?	[18:56]
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nikhilodeon	MatWho_ this is a custom plugin	[19:14]
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MatWho_	sorry about the delay are you still there?	[19:24]
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nikhilodeon	MatWho_ yes I am here have you run into that issue before?	[20:11]
MatWho_	ok sorry I had to eat!! so what are you trying to do	[20:12]
nikhilodeon	MatWho_ : well, basically I am trying to throw in an external javascript form, to do some ajax sorry javascript file so i tried a proof of concept with a helloworld.js through the plugin - no luck	[20:16]
MatWho_	so can I see the php file put it on http://sh.nu/p	[20:17]
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nikhilodeon__	http://sh.nu/p/24924	[20:23]
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nikhilodeon__	MatWho_ - just posted the file in sh.nu	[20:23]
MatWho_	ok just counting " marks! try this http://sh.nu/p/24925 with } at end	[20:25]
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nikhilodeon__	MatWho_ jeez - i must be going blind; can't believe I didn't see that - thanks for that - it worked	[20:36]
MatWho_	8)	[20:36]
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lphuberdeau	MatWho_, http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Event+Management+System now provides a credible example for plugin alias	[21:28]
MatWho_	looking right now thanks	[21:28]
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MatWho_	lphuberdeau: yes great example. I will then want to create a wiki page with the contents in it already, including an invocation of the plug-in	[21:33]
lphuberdeau	problem is that examples require dates kind of annoying to generate bad data in a profile perhaps the profile page should document examples rather than create them	[21:35]
PS\|bot	SVN: Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 14809 /branches/experimental/upgrade/ (5 files in 5 dirs): [ROLLBACK] Wrong branch...	[21:36]
MatWho_	lphuberdeau: just thinking a bit more. You know the longer term consequences of the profile system will be that future enhancements to TW especially plug-ins will become very long winded with loads of parameters, to support lots of different profiles. It will make using plug-ins directly much harder.	[21:37]
lphuberdeau	hum, not really have you looked at the trackerlist plugin recently?	[21:38]
MatWho_	lphuberdeau: back to your point about demo data - when you load the profile, cant you just ask for replacements for the demo data lphuberdeau: the data in the YAML could be the default what bit of trackerlist plugin is of interest?	[21:38]
lphuberdeau	the parameter list, which is terribly long and scary	[21:42]
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MatWho_	yes, that's my point - it is trying to do everything and so it needs lots of parameters. When some of us are using your profiles we will demand more and more parameters on all the plugins.	[21:43]
lphuberdeau	I don't see the point, the problem was terrible before arrival of profiles	[21:44]
MatWho_	ok, you are pouring fuel on the fire :) which is good! if you like profiles - not if you are a wiki page writer what about the demo data issue. "demo data values" = "default values" for questions at profile load time	[21:44]
lphuberdeau	I just don't see significant questions to ask for that profile	[21:49]
MatWho_	How about: schedule - lower? Upper? start date? etc	[21:51]
lphuberdeau	thing is, an event is likely to use multiple of those	[21:52]
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lphuberdeau	like one per day	[21:52]
MatWho_	just to get things going, but for other things it could be much more useful. For example How many products do you sell? back to the schedule, yes so in this case it would just be usefull to have a single example all ready to copy after the load	[21:52]
lphuberdeau	that's not going to happen	[21:54]
MatWho_	why do you say its not going to happen? Do you mean no mat you are going to have to write some php to do that sort of thing?	[21:55]
lphuberdeau	like ask questions and loop based on the value I don't want this to become a programming language	[21:56]
MatWho_	yes sorry yes was for the first question. We have PHP for programming	[21:56]
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MatWho_	I need to spend some "still time" working out what I think about this. But your work is fantastic, it is really going to transform TW	[21:58]
	At the moment I seem to spend all my TW time fixing/enhancing the webmail feature. I really need to add IMAP and secure POP but that is so boring!	[22:03]
lphuberdeau	you are the first person I see taking care of that feature in a long time you really use it?	[22:07]
MatWho_	well its quite important for a charity to be able to answer emails!!	[22:08]
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lphuberdeau	right... but can't you hook them up to gmail like everyone else?	[22:08]
MatWho_	so I have decided to make the webmail system more a group email Q management system, ideal for a group to monitor and manage a generic incoming email list such as help@charity.org	[22:09]
lphuberdeau	that sounds like a good idea	[22:11]
MatWho_	it will be much more useful integrated in to TW because as they open a mail it will look for relevant wiki/tracker information and build a history so the user can provide an informed reply All without moving between e-mail and wiki. It will be a joy!	[22:11]
lphuberdeau	I don't think it's reasonable for us to compete against large, general-purpose webmail clients, but for a niche, it should be possible	[22:12]
MatWho_	Exactly, I see it more as a team responsibility management system. Who did what to who with which email	[22:13]
lphuberdeau	helpful to avoid double-responses as well	[22:13]
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lphuberdeau	in fact, you could probably open a tracker item for each email	[22:13]
MatWho_	Yes so I have beefed up the message flags - so if you mark an email q as public, If you set a flag on a mail everyone else sees it as well. So while you are working on it someone else can get on with the next unflagged one yes the tracker idea is what I am planning to do. My plan A is to look up the from: email address and decide if we know the person already. If not create a wiki page, with a new tracker to hold all the future correspondence, emails, course bookings etc now you ca see why I asked those questions earlier. About creating a wiki page with a tracker plugin already in it ca = can	[22:15]
lphuberdeau	almost ;) but yes, trackers can create wiki pages trackers->proviles *profiles	[22:19]
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lphuberdeau	arrrrggggg... can't type anymore	[22:20]
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agentile	amette were you involved in the anti scripting code for sanitazion.php?	[22:20]
MatWho_	trackers can create wiki pages. Where is that in doc.tw.o	[22:20]
lphuberdeau	matt, just read the following sentences	[22:21]
amette	agentile: no	[22:21]
MatWho_	amette: hi	[22:22]
amette	hi MatWho_ :) you're heavily into coding as I see from commit-mails! ;)	[22:22]
agentile	so any idea who was involved?	[22:22]
amette	Great stuff! :) hmm, check svn log?	[22:22]
lphuberdeau	agentile, Nyloth handled most of the security issue don't know who did the code thought	[22:22]
MatWho_	lphuberdeau: am I still waiting or did I misunderstand :)	[22:24]
franck	lphuberdeau: we need to fix an issue urgently, the issue is that is sanitise the text in a mapfile due to the editor...	[22:24]
MatWho_	lphuberdeau: i am waiting ...	[22:24]
agentile	yep thats the issue	[22:24]
lphuberdeau	matwho - confusion came from typing dyslexia	[22:25]
agentile	it will be easier if nyloth joins the chat.the problem is that we are trying to determine what inserts the <x> into map file	[22:26]
lphuberdeau	franck, hum... feel free to fix it... basically you just need to perform replacements	[22:26]
franck	ok will look in the code...	[22:26]
lphuberdeau	sanitization is called from tiki-setup_base.php ... performed on all input	[22:27]
franck	hmmm need to create an exception I think	[22:27]
lphuberdeau	you somewhat need to unsanitize it if you know the ouput is not HTML and properly filtered no exceptions made in that file... lower code needs to handle it	[22:27]
franck	yes output is not HTML and plain text	[22:27]
lphuberdeau	just str_replace( '<x>', '', $foo ) on the values there are quite a few of those all around the code by now really annoying, but it's for the greater good...	[22:28]
franck	ok I see... yes good idea	[22:32]
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lphuberdeau	well, I'll stop working really soon, so if there are any more questions, ask now	[22:36]
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