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[02:56] <luciash> polom polom
[02:56] <GillesMM> hi
[02:56] <luciash> hi Gilles
[03:05] <luciash> hey chibaguy, what do you think about the footer issue ?
[03:11] <chibaguy> hi luciash, I need to look again at that.
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[03:12] <luciash> chibaguy: and iirc we already have button class, is it applicable for the input tag ?
[03:12] <chibaguy> It's confusing because there's the visible footer on the page, and also footer.tpl which contains non-visible code.
[03:13] <luciash> chibaguy: yep, it's confusing for me too
[03:15] <chibaguy> I happen to have tikineat.css open, and it has these selectors: button, input[type=submit], .button input, .submitbutton -- all styled the same.
[03:17] <chibaguy> I don't have much experience with forms, so these similar things look confusing and redundant to me.
[03:22] <chibaguy> On w3.org page it says: "Authors should note that the BUTTON element offers richer rendering capabilities than the INPUT element."
[03:23] * chibaguy wondering what is best practice.
[03:23] <luciash> i see, but i just checked with w3m and it's true, cannot submit there with button :-p
[03:23] <luciash> if w3m is from w3c, then it's a shame (dunno, just sounds so :-p)
[03:25] <luciash> ok, then it must be <foo class="button"><input .../></foo> or <input class="submitbutton" .../>
[03:25] <chibaguy> I think w3m isn't from w3c (looking at their history page).
[03:26] <luciash> ah, only issue with button i knew until now was the issue when it happens to have a need for two submit buttons in one form
[03:27] <luciash> then it doesn't work correctly in IE and submits only with first button value
[03:27] <luciash> but for one button to submit in a form i thought it's safe
[03:28] <luciash> apparently it's a bug with w3m that they don't support it but now what ? rollback or use the submitbutton class ?
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[03:48] <luciash> chibaguy: ping ?
[03:50] <chibaguy> About your question, I don't know.
[03:51] <chibaguy> Not roll back, but add class="button" I guess.
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[04:03] <luciash> chibaguy: what if we want to distinguish submit button from reset button ? class="button submit" and class="button reset" ?
[04:05] <chibaguy> Yep, seems good.
[04:11] <luciash> i'll reply to robin like that
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[06:27] <luciash> chibaguy: you know opera 9.6 is out ?
[06:27] <luciash> ;)
[06:27] <chibaguy> luciash, no, I'll give it a try.
[06:31] * luciash too
[07:23] <Paragtim> Anyone have a simple way to show a list of user names and email addresses?
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[07:49] <PS|bot> SVN:  Commit by sept_7 :: r 15056 /trunk/doc/devtools/sqlupgrade.sh: [ENH] Give a meaningful message if PHP command line interpreter is not present on the system.  
[07:54] <chibaguy> Themes.tw.o finally updated, to 2.2 alpha.
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[08:20] <PS|bot> SVN:  Commit by chibaguy :: r 15057 /mods/trunk/themes/faulkner/styles/faulkner/rightmargin.jpg: [NEW] Right margin background image was missed in theme commit.  
[08:22] * chibaguy wonders how many people tried that theme over months with the right-side background image missing....
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[08:38] <Paragtim> How easy is it to modify a plugin (user_list) to add extra detail?
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[09:41] <PS|bot> SVN:  Commit by Jyhem :: r 15058 /trunk/ (38 files in 38 dirs): [ENH] Clean lang/en/language.php of useless translations and update other language files  
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[10:14] <temp312322424> anyone here?
[10:15] <temp312322424> how do I create a menu item which shows all my wiki pages? say on the left hand side... 
[10:16] <temp312322424> I want a drop down list - something like the phplayers menu will do - but how do I edit it to say <mywikipages> ?
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[10:20] <MatWho> hi all, can you get to http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-login.php I cant
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[10:40] <Paragtim> Can get to the reg page and browse the site without logging in - No account
[10:42] <MatWho> ok thanks but it is back. Dont know what happened.
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[12:24] <PS|bot> SVN:  Commit by Jyhem :: r 15059 /trunk/templates/comments.tpl: [FIX] Typo  
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[12:41] <Paragtim> How can I change the default font size in the freetag cloud?
[12:46] <ricks99> need to modify the css
[12:47] <Paragtim> Any idea which tag?
[12:47] <ricks99> a.freetag_1 through _7
[12:47] <GillesMM> hello what is the name of the variable http://mysiste/tikiwiki ? 
[12:47] <Paragtim> Looking now - thanks
[12:51] <Paragtim> Hi rick, I new it wouldn't be that easy - no freetag showing in the css (default.css)
[12:51] <Paragtim> Any other ideas?
[12:51] <ricks99> i use tikineat.css (the default tiki css)
[12:51] <ricks99> it is in there
[12:52] <ricks99> may need to check the transition styles, too
[12:52] <ricks99> i also see it in the 1.9to2.0 css
[12:52] <Paragtim> can i cut and paste it (the block) from tikineat into my css?
[12:54] <ricks99> y.  or specify to use the appropriate transtion css. 
[12:55] <Paragtim> which one over-rides the named css or the transitional?
[12:57] <ricks99> the css cascade in order:
[12:58] <ricks99> 1. speciaty items (such as., phplayers.css, )
[12:58] <ricks99> 2. transition style cheet (such as 1.9to2.2.css)
[12:58] <ricks99> 3. named them (such as tikineat.css)
[12:59] <Paragtim> so settings in 2 will over-ride settings in 3
[12:59] <ricks99> no. they cacasde downard. last wins 
[12:59] <ricks99> but... 
[12:59] <ricks99> if there is an element in (1) that is not fully overridden in (3), it will still display
[13:00] <Paragtim> You've been doing this tiki thing for quite a while - Why so complicated?
[13:01] <ricks99> actually this is quite. easy. means u can override any/all styles simply by creating ur own custom theme
[13:01] <Paragtim> conceeded ;)
[13:01] <ricks99> for help, see http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/
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[13:04] <Paragtim> I have a problem that you might be able to suggest a solution to:-  I need to be able to display (list) the user name and email on a page.  Any ideas? 
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[13:04] <ricks99> i think there's a userlist plugin...
[13:06] <Paragtim> There is but I can get it to display the email.  I've looked at the .tpl but it seems to rely on having user\Mytiki enabled and the suits won't go for that level of personalisation
[13:06] <ricks99> y. because each user can decide to have their email private or public (via mytiki)
[13:07] <ricks99> you'll probably need some sort of custom plugin
[13:07] <Paragtim> any ways around it?
[13:08] <ricks99> could always use the SQL plugin to query the db directly (the users_users table), then dump the results on a wiki page
[13:09] <Paragtim> Thank you - I will investigate and come back when I get stuck at the 3rd word :0.  More beer added to the list
[13:10] <ricks99> np
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[13:30] <Paragtim> Is there a plug in that will list all the wiki pages and a chunck of text (like the search return data)?
[13:36] <ricks99> use the listpages plugin
[13:36] <Paragtim> thank you
[13:41] <PS|bot> SVN:  Commit by adren67 :: r 15060 /trunk/lang/fr/language.php: [TYPO] change some french translations (typos, unstranslated...)  
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[14:11] <Paragtim> Is there another plug in like list pages?
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[18:11] <kerrnel> Does marc have an AIM name?
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[18:25] <PS|bot> SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 15061 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [MOD]log: link to sql log(must do pdo log....)+ slef_link  
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[18:57] <SEWilco2> dev.tw.o site slow.
[19:08] <PS|bot> SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 15062 /trunk/lib/wiki/renderlib.php: [FIX]renderlib: the global crumbs must be filled even is the feature_breadcrumb is not on - otherwise the page title is not displayed  
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[19:54] <PS|bot> SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 15063 /trunk/lib/notifications/notificationemaillib.php: [FIX]emil: to avoid // in watchc categ mail  
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[20:42] <PS|bot> SVN:  Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 15065 /trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_js.php: [FIX] validate argument is not a boolean value  
[20:48] <SEWilco2> "YES!" "NO!" "Maybe..." Error: argument is not a boolean value.  :-)
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[21:10] <sylvieg> lphuberdeau: ?
[21:11] <sylvieg> I have a lot of problem with {file} since it is a plugin - for instance ... {file} was used inline but not with the editplugin stuff it is always a in div
[21:12] <sylvieg> the only solution is to stick the edit close to the plugin - any objection?
[21:12] <lphuberdeau> hum... I don't understand your solution
[21:13] <sylvieg> but no div.. just a img after...
[21:13] <sylvieg> not sure it will work nicely everywhere
[21:14] <lphuberdeau> I don't remember forcing it in a div
[21:14] <lphuberdeau> but I have no objections to make it inlineable
[21:15] <lphuberdeau> I know sept_7 solved some issues... maybe he added it for a reason
[21:27] <sylvieg> and also did you notice how complex (and bad) is the wikiplugin_attach in compairon {file} was ... perhaps it will be better to write another plugin
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[21:32] <lphuberdeau> big advantage of having things split up.. easier to improve things without breaking completely unrelated stuff
[21:33] <lphuberdeau> even though I did break a lot in the splitting process
[21:37] <sylvieg> yes I agree - it is just that replacing {file} with ATTACH ... ATTACH needs to be rewritten
[21:43] <PS|bot> SVN:  Commit by sylvieg :: r 15066 /trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]plugin: the edit plugin was in divs that were breaking text like 'download \{file name=x desc=here \})-> no more divs  
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[22:35] <PS|bot> SVN:  Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 15068 /trunk/lib/tikidblib-pdo.php: [FIX] warnings  
[22:42] <PS|bot> SVN:  Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 15069 /trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-plugins.tpl: [FIX] Useful to display the form to add a first element  
[22:44] <PS|bot> SVN:  Commit by lphuberdeau :: r 15067 /trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/2.0 14920 to 15013  
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[23:07] <sylvieg> lphuberdeau: is there a way to pick up all the params in info for a plugin - for instance TRACKERFILTER accepts all the param of TRACKERLIST
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[23:39] <chealer> hi. when I log to tikiwiki.org I only see "Since your last visit" on all pages: http://picpaste.com/tikiwiki.png
[23:39] <chealer> known problem?
[23:39] <chealer> I didn't login since since many months
[23:40] <lphuberdeau> hum... you can get the plugin info from plugin_info() in tikilib
[23:46] <chealer> lphuberdeau: was that for me?
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[23:57] <lphuberdeau> no