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[08:16] how [08:50] *** chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki [09:25] *** pkdille has joined #tikiwiki [09:27] hi gary and pascal :) [09:31] hi :-) [09:51] *** aoirthoir has quit IRC (Connection timed out) [10:04] hi [10:05] sry lu i was on the phone... :) Netineo is going very well (under homelook) tks [10:09] homelook ? [10:30] * luciash thinks yonixxx is on the phone again :) [10:33] *** gizwill has joined #tikiwiki [11:17] *** raji1 has joined #tikiwiki [11:43] polom [11:43] yo yoni! :D [11:43] boker tov :) [11:46] hi amette. I'm sure you heard this already, but too bad you couldn't be at tikifest. [11:48] hi chiba, yeah, I feel the same - but still nice to hear, thanks :) [11:48] I hope we will have some other occasion to meet! [11:49] Definitely. [11:49] :) [11:53] hi bro :) [11:53] hey ho, bro :) [11:54] chibaguy: did u uploaded the flvs somewhere too in the end ? [11:57] luciash, no, not yet. [12:21] how to avoid translation changes to wrong language ? [12:22] someone keeps changing Download,cs which should be set to Czech to Russian etc. [12:24] amette: btw, when ohertel moved tw.o site some czech characters got broken too ;) → http://tikiwiki.org/Download%2Ccs [12:24] hmmm... does that make me feel better or worse now.. can't really decide.. ;) [12:25] *g* [12:34] *** FrankP_german has joined #tikiwiki [12:59] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [13:09] hrm, "((ConnectingToIrc|tikiwiki (anglicky) nebo tikiwiki-cz na irc.freenode.net))" doesn't work :( [13:09] any workaround ideas ? [13:11] use square brackets? [13:15] also "((doc:Installation|instalačních pokynů))" this doesn't work properly... :-/ shows only "Installation" on the link [13:16] isn't that correct? or what should it show? [13:18] wow... import of devtwo MySQL fails because it hits the default max_allowed_packet size... wth is on dev.tw.o that is bigger than a Meg? [13:19] it should show "instalačních pokynů" on the link [13:19] ah, right, that you mean... [13:19] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Read error: 148 (No route to host)) [13:19] amette: surprisingly ~np~ ~/np~ around the description worked :-p [13:20] hmmm.... it's not character set for recognizing wiki-links, I suppose? That should be only for the pagename itself [13:20] LOL - ok :P [13:20] Boum... i went to eat [13:20] see http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page_ref_id=519&bl=n [13:20] yo Amette [13:20] wb yoni [13:20] yo yoni :) [13:21] i'm still here after 5secondes.. this is what i call a progres ! [13:21] LOL :P [13:21] *** jerkface03 has quit IRC (Connection timed out) [13:22] To answer you Lu http://www.homelook.net (project of personnal security webcam). [13:22] *** Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie [13:25] check out http://devtwo.amette.eu [13:25] to our style-guys: the logo up there is missing again... [13:25] ... on doc.tw.o it was the same - it was in styles/mittwoch/img/ and mittwoch is not in SVN... [13:26] ... so I manually created the directory and copied the image there.. [13:26] .. you guys got any idea how to make that a bit more convenient (and safer for upgrades)? [13:26] smoke break here.. [13:27] put it in db file gallery ? [13:27] yonixxx: ah, that homelook :) [13:31] amette: it's in wiki_up: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/img/wiki_up/devtwologo.png [13:31] ah, this time in wiki_up, ok :P [13:32] I'd like file gallery the most, yes... dump the DB and you got no problem whatsoever... [13:32] * amette goes fetching wiki_up from the current dev.tw.o [13:33] depends if the files/images are stored in db or not you should copy files/ too [13:34] I'm getting the complete public_html from dev.tw.o, but I copy over stuff selectively (did the same on doc.tw.o)... [13:34] :) there is another homelook ? :D [13:34] ... the old install is a mess - I start from clean SVN-checkouts [13:34] amette: it would be great if it worked flawlessly to store in db... problem with storing large files/images in db is capacity/performance/corruption then :( [13:34] SVN: Commit by chibaguy :: r 15730 /trunk/styles/transitions/1.9to2.2.css: [FIX] typo [13:35] yonixxx: none i know of ;) [13:35] lol [13:35] so it is THE homelook, not that homelook. :D :D :D [13:35] luciash: hmmm... yeah, that sucks.. :( [13:39] *** aoirthoir has joined #tikiwiki [13:42] yonixxx: it's *that* homelook i've heard about ;) [13:48] a ok :) [13:48] where [13:55] yonixxx: on da TikiFest by nelson or pascal, i don't remember exactly [13:56] :) [13:56] logical then [13:58] nice page btw, is it tiki ? [13:58] yes [13:59] very kewl [14:00] "The MacArthur Foundation just released a study suggesting that, not surprisingly, given the integration of social media into business and modern culture, the time kids spend with so-called new media, is generally neither wasted nor particularly harmful." [14:00] * amette loves the MacArthur Foundation ;) [14:01] "...Their participation is giving them the technological skills and literacy they need to succeed in the contemporary world. They$B!G(Bre learning how to get along with others, how to manage a public identity, how to create a home page." [14:01] yonixxx: the code doesn't look like that though... drupal ? [14:01] http://education.zdnet.com/?p=1968 [14:02] *** Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|away [14:05] ha... shit orry this is drupal ! :D :D :D my.homelook.net is tiki [14:05] yonixxx: oh, ah, i was already wondering :-p [14:07] lot of customization i see :) you renamed tiki-*.php to main-*.php, right ? :) [14:07] yes [14:10] *** chibaguy is now known as chibaguy_away [14:13] luciash: could you please test how "first load performance" is now on doctwo.amette.eu ? [14:18] *** Amorphous has quit IRC ("shutdown") [14:20] amette: sure [14:21] cca 5 seconds [14:21] hmmm... [14:21] ok, it is a bit faster here and basically I think that it should be better than before... there is a xen-bug that I worked around now.. [14:21] ... well, ok, let's see - thanks! [14:22] it's definitely better than before ! [14:22] ah, ok, great :) [14:22] wiki_up is there now on devtwo, too... [14:23] I should enable logins now, I think... [14:24] *** grobda24 has joined #tikiwiki [14:24] seems all pages now load/reload around 5 seconds now [14:24] huh, what? [14:24] fuck :P [14:24] yep :-p [14:25] but the first impression is better :D [14:25] it was something about 10 seconds or more before to load first [14:25] ok, that counts - you can never make a first impression again ;P [14:25] wow, that bad for you? :O [14:25] that sucks for sure [14:26] but hmm, for me all the pages afterwards are lightning fast again... [14:27] also devtwo.amette.eu trackers are damn fast... [14:27] I wonder how it can be so different for you... *scratchinghead* [14:27] e.g. this http://doctwo.amette.eu/tiki-index.php?page=Installation loads... page appears after 3-4 seconds and finishes loading at 5-6 seconds [14:27] *** aoirthoir has quit IRC (Excess Flood) [14:27] either reload or just clicking the Installation link from menu [14:28] *** aoirthoir has joined #tikiwiki [14:28] hmmm, true... it keeps loading something after the page is there... lemme see... [14:29] but in FF it loads faaaast for me... [14:29] faaaaaast doesn't sound too fast ;) [14:29] it sounds more like slooooow :-p [14:30] ... it fetches all the images from wiki_up, etc. when it keeps loading - but they are here in about a second or so.. I can't read the output of LiveHTTPHeaders running by.. [14:30] ROFL - I mean fst ;) [14:30] :D [14:31] 1,5 secs on reload - a little over 2 secs after emptying FF-cache [14:31] and FF never shows a blank page - like the HTML is already very quickly there and FF is only waiting for the images [14:33] 2 secs in Konq - 2,5 secs after emptying cache [14:33] *** Amorphous has joined #tikiwiki [14:33] maybe you have it set only for you :-p [14:33] we could put img/wiki_up/ in a RAM-disk :) [14:34] hmmm, nope ;) [14:34] supacool :) [14:34] :) [14:34] hrm [14:34] * luciash scratches his head [14:34] can i easily move mysql db from classic to mysqli ? [14:35] I wonder, if it is your connection/route to the server... [14:35] i have on one server mysql classic and i want to move it to mysqli one [14:35] yeah, no problem - mysql/i is only the connector afaik.. [14:35] actually I did just that with dev/doc ;) [14:35] ok, i believe you bro [14:36] might be my route, but then why before i had that feeling of eaccelerator then ? [14:40] amette: maybe it's because i'm listening to a last.fm stream now :-p [14:40] LOL [14:41] hehe ;) [14:42] eaccelerator shouldn't purge it's cache - that you mentioned it made me think of that xen-bug in the first place... [14:42] ... network connections are difficult to establish because of TCP checksumming failing... [14:42] ... once the connection is there, it works faster.. [14:43] ... then you wait a bit until your connection times out and you get the same effect again, when building up the connection. [14:45] didn't change much when i stopped my last.fm stream [14:45] maybe it's 4 seconds now [14:45] but - how are load times for tikiwiki.org for you? [14:45] it's in the same data-center - so we can get a good comparison there for narrowing the problem [14:45] doc.tw.o ? [14:46] community workspace [14:46] ok [14:47] http://tikiwiki.org/InstallTiki cca 10 secs [14:47] 3 secs for me :P [14:47] http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php 11 - 12 secs [14:48] also 3 secs for me [14:48] lucky guy [14:48] heh [14:48] what I don't get is, why you got sooooo muuuuch loooonger load-times on tw.o ... [14:48] ... should be in the same relation as before... [14:48] ... the server of tw.o can't be the bottleneck as it comes so fast to me. [14:49] but well - at least I would say now that it's more your connection than my server-setup that makes it slow for you [14:49] well, now i tried new instance of FF and it was about 6 seconds [14:49] aaaah :) [14:51] doctwo.amette.eu 3 secs [14:51] 3-4 [14:51] better :) [14:52] now I wonder, if it will go down to 6 secs as well, when the load starts to hit the server... [14:52] ... but well, that has to be tuned afterwards when we see the effects. [14:57] hmmm, I can't add doctwo.amette.eu to the intertiki allowed hosts on tw.o - anyone got an idea? [14:59] ah, the Key needs to be unique... [15:02] doctwo.amette.eu -- about 3 secs for page to start loading, about 14 sec for complete home page, here. [15:02] 14 secs?!? Eat my shorts!! :( [15:02] (opera, adsl line) [15:02] How does tw.o workspace compare to that? [15:02] tw.o workspace? [15:03] yup [15:03] what's the url? [15:03] ehm, like I mean: tw.o - Community Workspace [15:03] ah [15:03] http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php I mean [15:03] yeah :) [15:04] about 16 secs total. [15:04] wow [15:04] *** chibaguy_away is now known as chibaguy [15:05] * luciash feels much better now ;) [15:05] Seems slower than usual. Maybe some local line conditions right now. [15:05] hmm, ok, those two seconds are what tw.o is slower than doctwo.amette.eu - the rest is latency from europe to japan... [15:05] sounds right. [15:06] ... we need a load-balancer that forwards you to your local tw.o mirror and MySQL-replication over continents with dedicated network connections :P [15:06] :-) [15:06] I'd like to have a test from america now :) [15:07] lphuberdeau sylvieg : ping :) [15:07] and, hmm... I now updated the intertiki-key directly in the database as I don't have doc.tw.o admin login... still doesn't work "Invalid Server Key", when trying to log in [15:08] anyone here got admin-login for the doc.tw.o tiki? [15:10] only intertiki for me [15:15] amette: me, i'll quickly check [15:16] amette: what you need ? [15:18] amette: see jabber [15:24] ok, thanks [15:34] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [15:42] *** chibaguy has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [15:48] *** chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki [15:49] marclaporte: could you log in as "admin" on doctwo.amette.eu and change the intertiki-key? [15:49] for details see irc-logs [15:49] *** Woodzy has quit IRC (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) [15:51] bye all [15:51] nice to see you :) [15:51] bye yoni :) [15:52] amette: : you have password, no? [15:52] ah, I have the admin login for dev.tw.o [15:52] marclaporte: only for accessing the SSH of doc.tw.o - not for the tiki itself [15:53] I tried setting the new value in the database directly, but that didn't help [15:53] *** yonixxx has quit IRC ("Leaving") [15:53] http://devtwo.amette.eu is fixed now with InterTiki [15:53] all: please test [15:54] marclaporte: that charset-bug is ok for me... :-/ [15:55] luciash: do you have a charset-bug on doctwo.am.eu in the upper right corner in "Search for..." [15:56] amette: yes [15:56] dang... [15:56] I don't have it here - either with Konq nor with FF... :-/ [15:56] interestingly after reload it's gone [15:57] logins on doctwo.am.eu fixed [15:57] hmmm.... weird... [15:59] * marclaporte confirms both sites are ok for my login via InterTiki [16:01] amette: the encoding problem is gone ! great :) [16:01] seems i have nomore application menu there though [16:01] maaagic hands ;) [16:03] seems i'm nomore in Admin group there [16:03] huh? didn't change anything there... [16:03] I just wonder why RewriteRules don't work on dev, but they do on doc.. [16:04] devtwo.amette.eu login works for me, and admin status is ok. :-) [16:04] kewl :) [16:05] amette: i'm on the original doc.tw.o though still... there i see the "Developer Menu" [16:06] aaah, yes - I don't have to wonder that it won't work, when I'm activating .htaccess on doc, but am testing on dev :P [16:06] anyone knows a tracker item with an attachment? I wonder what everything I have to copy over from the old documentroot.. [16:07] doctwo.amette.eu login works for me, but no admin status :| [16:07] chibaguy: same here [16:07] attachments on devtwo trackers work - seem to be in the DB [16:08] hmmm, ok... only thing I messed around with was the InterTiki-key-change directly in DB... [16:08] amette: : about rw rules on dev and doc, they were heavily changed in htaccess because doc.tw.o/webmail is wiki page not tiki-webmail.php [16:08] ... I'll replay the database and change the intertiki-key in tiki directly.. stand by [16:08] amette: thanks for starting clean [16:08] *** chibaguy is now known as chibaguy_bath [16:09] marclaporte: ok, I noticed that too right now - gonna move them over, too [16:09] marclaporte: you're more than welcome for starting clean ;) [16:09] amette: : will send you DNS stuff [16:09] ok [16:11] ok, now amette changes db stuff :) [16:11] wow - how did you notice? :P [16:11] :-p [16:16] bbl [16:16] clean clean clean! [16:16] doc.tw.o still has some messy stuff in img/wiki_up [16:17] fom when I took over the site way back when [16:17] oh, ok... what's in there? possible to clean through Wiki-Admin? [16:17] not really [16:18] here is what happened (AFAICT) [16:18] * amette listening [16:18] the site was using multiTiki [16:18] so some images were in img/wiki_up/doc.tikiwiki.org/ [16:19] and some were in img/wiki_up/* [16:20] something got confused along the way [16:20] not sure when/why [16:20] hmmm, damn... :-/ [16:20] but there were some links of both kinds in wiki pages [16:20] and no time to clean up [16:20] so images were duplicated [16:21] There was other mess but I think the rest was all cleanup up [16:22] sounds a lot like some manual cleaning... or writing a custom script to find out what is linked in the db... [16:23] yup [16:23] but for now, if you take images in img/wiki_up and img/wiki_up/doc.tikiwiki.org/, there won't be broken URLs [16:23] which reminds me [16:24] we should have a link & image testing thingy [16:24] yup [16:25] I am leaving very soon [16:25] ok, I think I got everything... [16:25] to tikilunch in Washington and then off to Pais [16:25] Paris. [16:25] Will be offline for 20 some hours [16:25] anything else you need? [16:26] the DNS is set to 6 hours expiry time... so, if everything looks good for people, then I'll do the DNS-entry soon... so I'll be awake still for about an hour or so when it is propagated around the world... [16:26] you locked edits on old sites? [16:26] Not yet [16:27] This was first testing round... I will have to migrate the .htaccess still... [16:27] ... then locking edits, dumping DBs again and replaying them on the new host... [16:27] .. then DNS. [16:27] you da man [16:27] no, you da man [16:27] :-) [16:27] :) [16:27] new server feels fast [16:28] that's good to hear! [16:28] let' [16:28] s see how it will work under load [16:28] expect trouble in a few places with trackers [16:28] and highlighting [16:28] what's to expect there? [16:29] *** andrewdasilva has joined #tikiwiki [16:30] amette : : http://devtwo.amette.eu/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=1190&highlight=test on old server: I would get memory trouble, when logged in, with &highlight= [16:30] ... [16:31] I just noticed other charset issue: (#396)Tag "Table New" doesn´t work since 1.9.1 [16:31] MS word apostrophe, like ... character is causing weirdnedd [16:31] weirdness [16:33] hmm, ok, I see it, too [16:34] got to go [16:34] thanks!! [16:34] alright, have a pleasant trip [16:34] you're welcome! [16:41] *** chibaguy_bath is now known as chibaguy [16:42] Have a good trip, marclaporte. And everybody, g'night. :) [16:42] *** chibaguy has left [16:45] hmm, after thinking again... I'll disable logins on the live-sites... removing perms is error-prone and still people might want to change preferences or something... [16:45] ... by disabling logins the only thing we loose is stats/action-log afaics. [17:04] luciash: doctwo.am.eu DB replayed and InterTiki-key changed through Tiki-admin-interface - please retest [17:05] brb [17:05] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [17:10] *** andrewdasilva has quit IRC ("Leaving...") [18:16] *** navster has quit IRC ("going away now") [18:40] *** jerkface03 has joined #tikiwiki [18:53] amette: If you're trying to provide a fast anon-only server, consider a different login-access server can point at the same database. [18:53] All: Discuss. [18:54] SEWilco: I'm working on moving the live-sites to a new server. [18:56] amette: I thought it was something like that. I'm pointing out another configuration option, particularly if there's another server not suitable for high traffic but suitable for a relatively few editors to access for updating. [18:56] what do you mean with the "login-access server"? [18:57] amette: It sounded like you're trying to speed up the server by disabling logins. (Why do I sound like "Clippy"?) [18:57] ah, nope, disabling logins is for the time it takes for the DNS-change to propagate [18:57] so that no one edits stuff on the old server that will get lost then [18:57] Ah. I see. [18:58] I was working only in TW context, not server transition context. [18:59] * SEWilco goes back to take another nap [18:59] :) [19:17] hmpf.... that dev.tw.o encoding bug was there before already... [19:17] ... probably better not touch it. [19:22] *** danopia has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [19:23] *** danopia has joined #tikiwiki [19:25] well, data looks just as broken in both databases - e.g.: potom mrkněte na ((Documentation Templates|příklady)) [19:26] ah, nope... that is just that my console is missing those characters... good :) [19:28] re [19:28] wb [19:29] * amette hates character encoding problems [19:29] but I'm rather confident now that anything that breaks now, wasn't broken by me :P [19:29] *** Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie [19:30] amette: weird → http://doctwo.amette.eu/tiki-index.php?page=Features [19:30] re-testing, logged in, still no admin status [19:31] do you have that on the live site actually? ;) [19:31] yep, sure i do [19:31] same for gary [19:31] you're sure you're sure? ;) [19:32] if it's saved in the database then I can't think of any reason, why it shouldn't work on doctwo.am.eu... [19:32] otherwise i couldn't tell you the Tiki Unique key from InterTiki Admin [19:32] ... there's no way to give those rights through InterTiki afaik [19:32] ah, right - good point - you don't have to test again, I believe you ;) [19:33] lemme make a fresh dump from doc.tw.o [19:34] dump in progress [19:35] i'm in: Registered, Admins, Anonymous, Developers, DevTwoAdmins, DocTwoAdmins, InfoTwoAdmins, Security, ThemesTwoAdmins, TwoEditors [19:35] on doc.tw.o [19:35] as i see it [19:35] "Warning: since this tiki site is in slave mode, all user information you enter manually will be automatically overriden by other site's data, including users permissions" [19:36] so it comes from tw.o via InterTiki obviously [19:36] hmm, groups too?? [19:36] I got no idea... [19:36] yep, groups come from tw.o [19:36] ... I only know that you can set one group in InterTiki which says which group gets used for intertiki [19:36] so then... why did it work for gary and you on devtwo.am.eu and not doctwo ??? [19:37] maybe set up the InterTiki wrong at some point ? [19:38] I only changed the key, nothing else [19:39] hrm, no idea [19:39] but yeah, that's interesting... [19:39] ... you are not assigned to those groups on doctwo.amette.eu [19:39] i just know on doctwo.am.eu i'm not admin anymore ;) [19:39] well, then we know just as much ;) [19:41] the dump on which doctwo.amette.eu is running right now is from 2008-11-16 - should be new enough... weird [19:42] ok, replaying two minute old dump [19:44] done [19:44] now those groups are there for you [19:44] *scratchinghead* [19:44] uh oh *g* [19:44] my head will be bleeding soon, if this goes on like that :P [19:45] it's a living creature it seems... doing stuff depending on its mood :-p [19:45] hehe, yeah ;) [19:47] ok, but character encodings seem to be right [19:47] ( my biggest fear in this whole move, believe me ) [19:48] looks much better now (including the char encoding)... [19:48] great [19:48] just two things... this is broken still: http://doctwo.amette.eu/tiki-index.php?page=Features [19:48] and this is why ? → What\'s New [19:49] what are the commands you use to dump and import the db dump ? [19:50] mysqldump without any special magic [19:50] and what's so special about that features-page? [19:51] it's very broken - no stylesheet, ends loading in half [19:51] yes, I know :) [19:51] I mean, what's so special about it, that it does that! ;) [19:52] ask me :-p [19:52] luciash: what's so special about that feature page that it breaks? :P [19:52] i think it uses trackerlist [19:52] trackerlist is enabled in lib/wiki-plugins [19:52] it's very special because it's huge too ;) [19:52] aaah :) [19:53] i think you're missing something in the db export/import [19:53] I fear so, too... [19:53] I'm just looking in the database [19:53] the page is completely in the db... [19:55] i use this: mysqldump --opt ... > *.sql [19:58] mysql --default-character-set=utf8 ... < *.sql [19:58] ho, ho, ho - see the show : http://doctwo.amette.eu/tiki-index.php?page=Features [19:59] and this command i had to use once to have correct encoding when switching from latin1 to utf8 mysql: iconv -t UTF-8 -f ISO-8859-1 20070831-backup.sql -o 20070831-backup-utf8.sql [19:59] character encoding is fixed already [20:00] w00t, what was it ? [20:00] or not fixed, but migrated "just as legacy as it was before" [20:00] you said it: "it's a huge page with trackerlist plugin" ;) [20:00] PHP's memory_limit of 32M wasn't enough ;) [20:00] aye, that's definitely not enough [20:01] i'd set 64 or even 128 for *.tw.o sites ;) [20:01] I'd like to keep it as small as possible - 64M for now [20:02] dev.tw.o has 128M (Gentoo default)... [20:02] ... do we dare to lower it? ;) [20:03] i had to use this for dump once too: mysqldump --opt --compatible=mysql40 ... > *.sql [20:03] lowered it - let's go clicking ;) [20:03] but you use mysql 5, right ? [20:03] yup [20:06] still enough here: http://devtwo.amette.eu/tiki-index.php?page=All+Consistency+bugs [20:06] three times trackerlist-plugin [20:09] now i only wonder why the "What's new" module title gets escaped to "What\'s new"... (dunno if --complete-insert at mysqldump would help anything) [20:11] ... but does not in wiki pages content [20:11] another weirdness [20:11]