[00:16] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [00:31] *** SEWilco2 has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [00:31] *** navster has joined #tikiwiki [00:51] *** navster has quit IRC () [00:59] *** Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie [01:08] *** CIA-50 has quit IRC ("brb") [01:16] *** CIA-50 has joined #TikiWiki [01:24] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Connection timed out) [01:33] *** lphuberdeau1 has joined #tikiwiki [01:33] *** lphuberdeau has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [02:38] *** navster has joined #tikiwiki [02:57] *** SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki [03:00] *** chibaguy has joined #tikiwiki [03:15] *** Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|sleeping [03:38] *** lq_781 has joined #tikiwiki [03:39] *** lq_781 has quit IRC (Client Quit) [04:26] *** navster has quit IRC () [04:30] *** navster has joined #tikiwiki [05:26] Is there any such thing as a "negative permission" or "negative category" ? [05:26] For example... [05:27] At my school - we've got a "Year 4" category - so any staff, students, or parents in year 4 can see this content. [05:27] How would we let teachers choose to prevent parents from seeing selected pages ? [05:28] (hint - there's 13 years at the school, so we've got just over 13 categories at the moment. I don't like the idea of creating an additional 13 categories just to separate out the parents...) [05:31] *** lphuberdeau1 has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [05:34] *** lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki [05:48] *** genki has joined #tikiwiki [05:48] cnd, I don't think there's a negative permission. [05:50] anyone ever setup intertiki or is able to offer a little help? [05:50] genki, did you check the doc page? [05:51] *** VK4MSL has joined #tikiwiki [05:51] yes, I followed the instructions last night with the doc page...I'm still experiencing difficulties [05:52] i've deleted my "client" intertiki and started again [05:52] *** Redhatter has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [05:53] on my "master" tiki in the "intertiki" features section, the default for "intertiki slave mode" is "as master" but i've been told I need it to be "no" [05:54] when I click no and save, it automaticaly reverts back to "as master"......could this be a problem [05:56] At tikiwiki.org, it just says "no". [05:56] It's a dropdown, but only contains "No" [05:56] What version of Tiki are you using? [05:56] so i've been told....I can't seem to set my "master" tiki to "no" i've even cleared the cache [05:56] 2.2 [05:57] Hmm. same. [05:58] I've disabled the intertiki feature and re-enabled it [05:58] No other information in the "Intertiki client" section, right? [05:58] correct....nothing ticked [05:58] nothing written [05:59] I wonder where that "as master" is coming from. [05:59] when you set up the "client" machine the "as master" drop down appears [05:59] cnd, I'm not sure about permission strategies these days, as it's been a while since I've done much with them. [06:01] genki, right, I see that at the slave site. [06:01] is there a way to reset the defaults on my "master" [06:02] I'd be tempted to check the database directly to see if the "as master" is being stored there. [06:02] how do i do that? I am not a super computer wiz.... [06:03] Well, phpMyAdmin running on your site would be the tool to use. [06:04] okay, loggin in now..never used this though...can you hold on a sec while I try ? [06:05] ok, so where in the database do you reckon "as master" is kept? [06:05] Probably in the tiki_preferences table. [06:05] okay....i'll check there [06:07] hrm...any idea what the name might be? [06:07] Should be like intertiki. [06:07] i don't think it's there i've only got 30 entries, none look close to being intertiki [06:08] any other ideas?/ [06:08] Only 30 entries in tiki_preferences? [06:08] * chibaguy has 24 pages of 30 rows each. [06:08] oops..nope more than that...i didn't see the thingy on the top...sorry...Told you i'm a newbie [06:09] Well - I'm *very* happy with how all the permissions stuff has worked out for our school install so far. I'm probably going to try an upgrade from 2.2 to 3.0, get commit access, experiment with fixing some trivial things, then investigate adding a new "tiki_p_block_categorized" permission into the meltingpot, and adjust any relevant code to make it work :-) [06:10] Aha!! found it.. intertiki_mymaster page 18 of 20....hrm..now what? [06:10] cnd: There's an admin option for something like "all categories must allow permission". Maybe that would help. [06:11] Is intertiki_mymaster in the preferences "name" column? [06:12] yes....actually it is " feature_intertiki_mymaster " with NO value to the right [06:14] Well, you can delete that row safely. Any other rows containing "intertiki"? [06:15] cnd: Also, specific permissions override general ones. So if group "Parents" has permissions for Group "Permissions - No Parents" which do not include read permission, then that specific permission overrides general permissions. [06:15] there is also a "feature_intertiki_server" enabled with "n" [06:19] You can delete that, too. I don't think it should make a difference tho. [06:20] okay. shall i just go through and delete all the "intertiki" entries [06:20] Yes. [06:20] sweet! Then I'll give it another go..Thanks again for your help. you are always patient! [06:21] good luck. :-) [06:28] yeah! I think it now works!! [06:28] :-) [06:37] *** Lucymoz has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [06:38] arrrgghhh!!!! no luck Chibaguy! [06:38] "unable to connect remote server" [06:38] contact rather [06:40] How does your master intertiki admin page look? Is the dropdown showing "as master" again? [06:41] nope, it's back to the default "NO" ... [06:42] That's progress. [06:43] yes....MUCh progress actually. I spent quite a long time fiddling last night with that [06:44] okay, hrm. wonder where the problem now lies [06:48] if i've got the master tiki slave tiki hosted at the same site, would that make a difference [06:48] I don't know. [06:49] Doesn't seem like it, but I don't really know. [06:49] when you put down your IP address do the folders make a difference? [06:50] for example www.mysite.com would have the same ip address as www.mysite.com/tiki [06:53] yes, same ip address [06:54] aha...ok, so the "remote.php" file location....in my tiki root dir yes.. [06:54] *** SEWilco2 has left [06:54] so when I write the location if my tiki is www.mysite.com/mytiki then will the location be /mytiki/remote.php [06:58] polom [07:00] grrrrrr i'll try again tomorrow..thanks chibaguy [07:02] howdy chibaguy [07:10] hi luciash [08:06] *** genki has quit IRC ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") [08:45] *** VK4MSL is now known as Redhatter [08:53] *** bethrezen has joined #tikiwiki [09:30] *** tomb_ has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [09:51] tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r16399 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [09:51] tikiwiki: [ENH] tiki-editpage : it is now possible to set the level of section you want [09:51] tikiwiki: to edit. [10:06] What does "level" mean, in tiki-editpage? Is that related to staging? [10:27] no idea, you have to wait for sept [11:00] *** franck_ has joined #tikiwiki [11:13] *** franck has quit IRC (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) [11:42] SEWilco2: that's a pair of excellent ideas! I'll try the both of them out. Once again - I'm embarrased I didn't think of that myself. Too many late nights and not enough caffene is my excuse :-) [11:48] *** bethrezen_ has joined #tikiwiki [12:05] *** bethrezen has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [12:06] *** cnd has quit IRC ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") [12:07] *** ricks99 has joined #tikiwiki [12:59] *** Caarrie|sleeping is now known as Caarrie [13:10] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16400 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): remarksbox [13:13] *** cnd has joined #tikiwiki [13:56] *** GillesMM has joined #tikiwiki [14:07] *** nkoth3 has joined #tikiwiki [14:07] *** GillesMM has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [14:11] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16401 10/trunk/templates/ (tiki-adminusers.tpl tiki-assignuser.tpl): [FIX]intertiki: the warn ing was not exact. The master groups are only added not sync on the slave [14:32] *** tomb__ has joined #tikiwiki [14:34] *** stix_ has quit IRC (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) [14:34] *** stix_ has joined #tikiwiki [14:41] *** lphuberdeau1 has joined #tikiwiki [14:48] *** lphuberdeau has quit IRC (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) [15:00] *** lphuberdeau1 has quit IRC (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) [15:16] tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r16402 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [15:16] tikiwiki: [FIX] edit_section : we need to ignore !* in non-parsed (~np~) or pre (~pp~) [15:16] tikiwiki: section, else we go the section number wrong... [15:25] *** lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki [15:40] tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r16403 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-login.tpl: [ENH] Go directly to the correct tab [15:44] tikiwiki: 03luciash * r16404 10/trunk/templates/tiki-searchindex.tpl: [FIX] when not giving search results yet, display "Search" as the page title [15:54] tikiwiki: 03luciash * r16405 10/trunk/tiki-searchindex.php: [FIX] when not giving search results yet, display "Search" as the page title [16:01] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [16:03] tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r16406 10/trunk/styles/transitions/2.0to3.0.css: [FIX] edit_section : put the icon in the right place... well I think [16:08] *** chibaguy has quit IRC ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") [16:11] *** tsunami has joined #tikiwiki [16:23] hm, does highlighting on trunk work for you ? [16:23] when searching [16:34] *** SEWilco2 has joined #tikiwiki [16:36] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r16407 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] Applying post filter to avoid the initial flag to also catch Eacute when searching for A [16:40] *** rpg_ has joined #tikiwiki [16:40] *** rpg_ is now known as rpg [16:58] tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r16408 10/trunk/_htaccess: [FIX] was breaking iepngfix.htc [16:59] *** ohertel has joined #tikiwiki [16:59] Hello! :) [17:01] hi ohertel [17:01] heya :) [17:01] Hm, is there a problem with tiki-setup.php? [17:01] marclaporte: I think we will have to roll back the rewrite for page with . - th list will never stop [17:01] Both branch-2.0 and trunk give me a broken version. [17:02] It's about 6-7k each and stops right in the middle of nothing. ^^ [17:02] So all the taballs are borked because of this. [17:02] tarballs [17:02] i've just upgraded my trunk and it works [17:02] maybe it's fresh install problem ? [17:02] No install. [17:03] only checking out from svn. [17:03] At work I DLed the tarball today and wondered why it didnt work. Now I checked and the tiki-setup.php is broken in the tar file. [17:04] sylvieg: yes, it's very tricky [17:04] btw. do we need both, BRANCH-2-0 and trunk? or trunk only? [17:06] both script do an rm -rf before the svn export, so it can't be old files or something... strange. [17:06] scripts [17:07] full disk ? [17:07] :-p [17:07] Available: 442120408 [17:07] No. .P [17:08] use 3% ,) [17:08] :) [17:09] I'll try the update script manually, maybe it's a cron thingy... ,) [17:09] We already had the weirdest things with cron already... at work. Under Solaris, though, not linux. =) [17:11] Solaris is YUCK anyway. ^^ We were trying to find a really strange memory problem for a long time. Until we found out that the bug is in the "tail" command we were using to hunt down the bug in the logs. .D [17:11] *g* [17:11] It just ate up like 2GB of memory within seconds under certain conditions. .D [17:12] And we throught it was a bug in our application. ^^ [17:14] Ok, did an export of trunk and the tiki-setup.php is broken again. [17:14] Last line is "$smarty->assign('tiki_uses_cvs', $TWV->cvs);" [17:15] sylvieg: : lph has a proposal for .htc/.pdf, etc [17:16] ohertel: hmm, i have the same here but my tiki works [17:16] I'll checkout on windows now, too. [17:17] I agree with the issue with the list of exceptions to wiki page names with "." -> it can't work, the list is infinite [17:17] luci: what I do is: svn export https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/trunk trunk [17:17] Is that wrong somehow? ,) [17:18] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r16409 10/trunk/_htaccess: [FIX] Rewrite rules to lookup for existing files before applying rules [17:18] svn co https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/trunk trunk [17:18] checkout ^^ [17:18] I dont want a 'working' copy, only a copy for tarballing it, it export not good for that? [17:18] ohertel: i do checkout and svn up then only but to avoid svn dirs export might be correct [17:19] I've been thinking on the lines of calling the wikipages something like www.example.com/wiki/page.name_with.dots.or.not instead of trying www.example.com/page.name_with.dots.or.not [17:19] Can someone else try a fresh export? ^^ [17:20] Easier to separate what is a wiki page from the rest, no ? [17:20] Okay, eclipse with svn gives me the same broken tiki-setup.php. [17:20] 147 lines only. [17:21] ohertel, i have the same [17:21] broken too? [17:21] try diff or last commit msg if anything changed [17:21] or eclipse+svn? ,) [17:21] *** Lucymoz has joined #tikiwiki [17:21] i don't consider it broken as it doesn't break my tiki, just the same length ;) [17:22] But it's incomplete! [17:22] i understand [17:22] starts with assign(...); ... thats definitely borked. ^^ [17:24] http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/tiki-setup.php?view=log [17:26] hm... [17:27] seems to have been like that for months ohertel [17:27] So it is broken and no one ever found out? [17:27] are you sure trunk uses that file still ? [17:28] If not, why is it still in then? [17:28] luciash: if not why was it modified 13 days ago? [17:28] no idea :) [17:29] but someone said closing ?> is not mandatory in php and for some reason it should be like that [17:29] iirc [17:29] Sorry, but not closing tags is pretty bad style. No? [17:29] for some other problems [17:29] tiki-setup is still used... no questions on that [17:29] yes, i wouldn't do that either ;) [17:30] And at work I tried to run it and got "premature end" or something like that. ,) [17:30] which PHP version? [17:30] No idea. 5.something. [17:30] it's maybe in newer php versions, dunno, see the logs who introduced it [17:31] ohertel: the export does work here [17:31] php files should always close, so you know that you have the full file and not just the half. [17:31] Caarrie: yah, and ending NOT with ?> too, right? :) [17:31] the tiki-setup.php I mean [17:31] ohertel: as i said above it is the same for months in svn ;) [17:32] But that doesnt make it any better. .P [17:34] weird, i can't see it in the logs... might be it was another file [17:35] I can confirm that trunk works... [17:35] Ok, no broken tarball then, only a 'weird' one. .D [17:37] may not be the tarball that's broken [17:38] no ?> at end of file is valid PHP [17:38] Yah, but it confused me a lot. So why not close it... it looks so incomplete. :) [17:39] the purpose of not closing it is that you have less risks of having characters after the end and break headers... many bad IDEs keep adding lines at the end [17:39] ah okay. [17:41] Breaks your neck if you set stuff in php with trailing whitespace and then try to set headers... "headers already set" ... I know that one. ^^ [17:41] maybe we can put a comment into the file at the end [17:41] set -> sent [17:41] // stop reading here .) [17:41] to prevent other confusions ;) [17:42] // ?> [17:43] good idea. :) Last time I tried a fresh checkout I got this problem with categories, where I didnt see the ...categorized permission and therefor couldnt get stuff working. [17:43] ohertel: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/tiki-setup.php?r1=9585&r2=9595 ;) look at the last line of the diff [17:44] nyoth did that commit it seems [17:44] ah there it is... or better: there it went. ,) [17:44] " * remove some optional php closing tags to reduce risks (e.g. headers sent too early due to carriage return after the closing tag)" [17:44] no idea what that means though [17:44] Yah I remember, see above. :) [17:45] if you set stuff in php, and inbetween or the end is a linebreak or a space, and then you try to set http headers, you get an error like "headers already sent". [17:46] And if you use the ?> then it seems the chance is great that some bad IDE / editor adds a linefeed or something, breaking the application. :) [17:46] * Caarrie knows almost no php [17:46] do you still need the tar? [17:47] No, but thanks for checking. [17:47] about 2 minutes and it will be uploaded :P [17:48] No, dont need it, as I know it will be the same as mine. :) [17:48] * Caarrie nods [17:48] tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16410 10/trunk/lib/tiki-js.js: [FIX] Suppress alert("Handler could not be removed") when addEvent fails [17:56] *** Amorphous has quit IRC (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) [18:06] *** Amorphous has joined #tikiwiki [18:19] *** marclaporte has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [18:30] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16411 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [FIX]wysiwyg: it makes no sense to check semi parsed and parsed - only one [18:35] *** lphuberdeau has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [18:37] *** tsunami has quit IRC () [18:53] *** lphuberdeau has joined #tikiwiki [18:53] *** lphuberdeau1 has joined #tikiwiki [18:53] *** lphuberdeau has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) [19:06] Any idea why a G1 phone insists on showing source HTML of http://mobile.theredbulls.org/ instead of the TW mobile page? [19:06] *** fantoms has joined #tikiwiki [19:20] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16412 10/trunk/tiki-pagehistory.php: [FIX]history: fix source for html page [19:22] *** navster has quit IRC () [19:33] *** fantoms has quit IRC (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) [19:33] *** marclaporte has joined #tikiwiki [19:38] polom [19:45] *** rpg has quit IRC () [20:04] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16414 10/trunk/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl: [FIX] no wysiwyg if no javascript [20:08] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16415 10/trunk/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl: oops [20:21] *** ricks99 has quit IRC ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") [20:34] *** Redhatter has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) [20:44] *** patrickallard has joined #tikiwiki [20:45] *** btiffin has joined #tikiwiki [20:45] *** GillesMM has joined #tikiwiki [20:47] tikiwiki: 03patrickallard * r16416 10/trunk/templates/tiki-searchresults.tpl: [ENH] Re-indenting and improving search results to make many things optional, as adjustable in tiki-admin.php?page=search [20:55] Is there any way to have blog posts sorted by creation date ASCENDING; (oldest first)? [20:59] *** Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|away [21:06] btiffin: See if /tiki-view_blog.php?blogId=1 offers a sortable date column. I don't remember one. [21:07] btiffin: Nope, not seeing a date sort either. http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_blog.php?blogId=26 [21:18] Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2264 - closing tracker items make them appear in since_last_visit_new module as ... - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2264 [21:18] Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2265 - Send to a URL or page upon logout - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2265 [21:18] Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2266 - Trackers category listing does not use categories hierarchy - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2266 [21:41] *** Lateral has joined #tikiwiki [21:45] ?? HI - I want users to be able to be notified if a Wiki page changes. how do I achieve this? RSS is not really it, I want the users to be able to select which page they want to watch. [21:47] tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r16417 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] Turning off a few experimental features on a default install. Please revert if you feel these features should be on. [21:57] Lateral, Did you try the Eyeball Monitor this page icon? I'll be honest, I've never [22:00] Btiffin - No - New to this and trying to get my head around it all - The documentation is very expansive and hard to find the wood for the trees [22:01] I'll go look for this EYE Ball icon - where do I find it? [22:01] Is it a module? [22:01] Lateral: at the bottom of each page - there's a little icon that looks like an eyeball [22:02] If users click it - they get an email anytime the page changes [22:02] I don't see this lcon - sounds like what I want [22:02] Click into the "Admin" page, then into the "Wiki" section [22:03] There's probably a config option in there to allow users to subscribe to wiki pages that you need to turn on. [22:03] done that [22:03] ok looking [22:03] (I know there's an option - just not 100% sure which admin panel it lives in) [22:04] Lateral; With the theme we use; it's top right of each page along with the edit/print/save to notepad icons [22:04] I see wiki watch - I just turned all on [22:04] (yeah - sorry - I forgot that I made my own theme and moved everything around :-) [22:04] I'll just check a page - thks for this help, by the way [22:05] If it doesn't work immediately - you need to click the 3 "cache exterminator" icons in the system menu [22:07] good tip - I'll go find them [22:07] Umm; Lateral; The top two wiki watch settings means auto-set watch if you edit or author; might be overkill for some users [22:08] Yes - just trying to get the icon up and then back off settings [22:09] And under my My Tiki menu there is a My Watches; Do you see that menu item? [22:09] Did the cache exterm - still can't see the eyeball - [22:09] um - I go look [22:10] ok - might be onto something - My tiki menu display is weird [22:11] my user is different somehow [22:11] Under Admin; Features; User tab User Watches is set there it seems [22:11] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16418 10/trunk/tiki-download_file.php: notice [22:11] I need a few minutes to figure this out - this help is great [22:12] *** bethrezen_ has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) [22:13] *** franck_ has quit IRC () [22:13] :) Tiki is a fair sized beasty. I've got to convince some of our team that it ISN'T too big, but just right for an ALL-IN system. ;) [22:14] bingo - that's got it [22:15] This is one hell of a program - I stumbled over it from MediaWiki because I wanted group control [22:17] I'm going to tell my boss to throw some cash at this - I guess there is a "donations" or support page somewhere [22:18] Ok - got the eyeball now and seems to work [22:18] thks [22:20] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r16419 10/trunk/lib/core/ (6 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Adding basic support to fetch plugin info and repair broken tests by path changes in files [22:23] tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16420 10/trunk/_htaccess: oops [22:23] tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r16421 10/trunk/tiki-user_preferences.php: [INDENT] No changes [22:23] *** patrickallard has quit IRC ("CGI:IRC") [22:25] *** btiffin has left "Leaving" [22:26] I'm seeing an error in the third cache flush option with SEFURL postfilter on. tiki-admin_system.php?do=temp_cache [22:27] Actually, I'm getting a DB error message on my trunk test site, although I don't see what's wrong in the DB message. 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