Is there any such thing as a "negative permission" or "negative category" ?
For example...
At my school - we've got a "Year 4" category - so any staff, students, or parents in year 4 can see this content.
How would we let teachers choose to prevent parents from seeing selected pages ?
(hint - there's 13 years at the school, so we've got just over 13 categories at the moment. I don't like the idea of creating an additional 13 categories just to separate out the parents...)
cnd, I don't think there's a negative permission.
anyone ever setup intertiki or is able to offer a little help?
genki, did you check the doc page?
yes, I followed the instructions last night with the doc page...I'm still experiencing difficulties
i've deleted my "client" intertiki and started again
on my "master" tiki in the "intertiki" features section, the default for "intertiki slave mode" is "as master" but i've been told I need it to be "no"
when I click no and save, it automaticaly reverts back to "as master"......could this be a problem
At tikiwiki.org, it just says "no".
It's a dropdown, but only contains "No"
What version of Tiki are you using?
so i've been told....I can't seem to set my "master" tiki to "no" i've even cleared the cache
2.2
Hmm. same.
I've disabled the intertiki feature and re-enabled it
No other information in the "Intertiki client" section, right?
correct....nothing ticked
nothing written
I wonder where that "as master" is coming from.
when you set up the "client" machine the "as master" drop down appears
cnd, I'm not sure about permission strategies these days, as it's been a while since I've done much with them.
genki, right, I see that at the slave site.
is there a way to reset the defaults on my "master"
I'd be tempted to check the database directly to see if the "as master" is being stored there.
how do i do that? I am not a super computer wiz....
Well, phpMyAdmin running on your site would be the tool to use.
okay, loggin in now..never used this though...can you hold on a sec while I try ?
ok, so where in the database do you reckon "as master" is kept?
Probably in the tiki_preferences table.
okay....i'll check there
hrm...any idea what the name might be?
Should be like intertiki.
i don't think it's there i've only got 30 entries, none look close to being intertiki
any other ideas?/
Only 30 entries in tiki_preferences?
oops..nope more than that...i didn't see the thingy on the top...sorry...Told you i'm a newbie
Well - I'm *very* happy with how all the permissions stuff has worked out for our school install so far.  I'm probably going to try an upgrade from 2.2 to 3.0, get commit access, experiment with fixing some trivial things, then investigate adding a new "tiki_p_block_categorized" permission into the meltingpot, and adjust any relevant code to make it work :-)
Aha!! found it..  intertiki_mymaster page 18 of 20....hrm..now what?
cnd: There's an admin option for something like "all categories must allow permission".  Maybe that would help.
Is intertiki_mymaster in the preferences "name" column?
yes....actually it is " feature_intertiki_mymaster " with NO value to the right
Well, you can delete that row safely. Any other rows containing "intertiki"?
cnd: Also, specific permissions override general ones.  So if group "Parents" has permissions for Group "Permissions - No Parents" which do not include read permission, then that specific permission overrides general permissions.
there is also a "feature_intertiki_server" enabled with "n"
You can delete that, too. I don't think it should make a difference tho.
okay. shall i just go through and delete all the "intertiki" entries
Yes.
sweet! Then I'll give it another go..Thanks again for your help. you are always patient! 
good luck. :-)
yeah! I think it now works!!
:-)
arrrgghhh!!!! no luck Chibaguy! 
"unable to connect remote server"
contact rather
How does your master intertiki admin page look? Is the dropdown showing "as master" again?
nope, it's back to the default "NO" ...
That's progress.
yes....MUCh progress actually. I spent quite a long time fiddling last night with that
okay, hrm. wonder where the problem now lies
if i've got the master tiki  slave tiki hosted at the same site, would that make a difference
I don't know.
Doesn't seem like it, but I don't really know.
when you put down your IP address do the folders make a difference?
for example www.mysite.com would have the same ip address as www.mysite.com/tiki
yes, same ip address
aha...ok, so the "remote.php" file location....in my tiki root dir yes..
so when I write the location if my tiki is www.mysite.com/mytiki   then will the location be /mytiki/remote.php
polom
grrrrrr i'll try again tomorrow..thanks  chibaguy
howdy chibaguy
hi luciash
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r16399 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): 
tikiwiki: [ENH] tiki-editpage : it is now possible to set the level of section you want
tikiwiki:  to edit.
What does "level" mean, in tiki-editpage? Is that related to staging?
no idea, you have to wait for sept
SEWilco2: that's a pair of excellent ideas!  I'll try the both of them out.  Once again - I'm embarrased I didn't think of that myself.  Too many late nights and not enough caffene is my excuse :-)
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16400 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): remarksbox
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16401 10/trunk/templates/ (tiki-adminusers.tpl tiki-assignuser.tpl): [FIX]intertiki: the warn ing was not exact. The master groups are only added not sync on the slave
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r16402 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: 
tikiwiki: [FIX] edit_section : we need to ignore !* in non-parsed (~np~) or pre (~pp~)
tikiwiki:  section, else we go the section number wrong...
tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r16403 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-login.tpl: [ENH] Go directly to the correct tab
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r16404 10/trunk/templates/tiki-searchindex.tpl: [FIX] when not giving search results yet, display "Search" as the page title
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r16405 10/trunk/tiki-searchindex.php: [FIX] when not giving search results yet, display "Search" as the page title
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r16406 10/trunk/styles/transitions/2.0to3.0.css: [FIX] edit_section : put the icon in the right place... well I think
hm, does highlighting on trunk work for you ?
when searching
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r16407 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] Applying post filter to avoid the initial flag to also catch Eacute when searching for A
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r16408 10/trunk/_htaccess: [FIX] was breaking iepngfix.htc
Hello! :)
hi ohertel
heya :)
Hm, is there a problem with tiki-setup.php?
marclaporte: I think we will have to roll back the rewrite for page with . - th list will never stop
Both branch-2.0 and trunk give me a broken version.
It's about 6-7k each and stops right in the middle of nothing. ^^
So all the taballs are borked because of this.
tarballs
i've just upgraded my trunk and it works
maybe it's fresh install problem ?
No install.
only checking out from svn.
At work I DLed the tarball today and wondered why it didnt work. Now I checked and the tiki-setup.php is broken in the tar file.
sylvieg: yes, it's very tricky
btw. do we need both, BRANCH-2-0 and trunk? or trunk only?
both script do an rm -rf before the svn export, so it can't be old files or something... strange.
scripts
full disk ?
:-p
Available: 442120408
No. .P
use 3% ,)
:)
I'll try the update script manually, maybe it's a cron thingy... ,)
We already had the weirdest things with cron already... at work. Under Solaris, though, not linux. =)
Solaris is YUCK anyway. ^^ We were trying to find a really strange memory problem for a long time. Until we found out that the bug is in the "tail" command we were using to hunt down the bug in the logs. .D
*g*
It just ate up like 2GB of memory within seconds under certain conditions. .D
And we throught it was a bug in our application. ^^
Ok, did an export of trunk and the tiki-setup.php is broken again.
Last line is "$smarty->assign('tiki_uses_cvs', $TWV->cvs);"
sylvieg: : lph has a proposal for .htc/.pdf, etc
ohertel: hmm, i have the same here but my tiki works
I'll checkout on windows now, too.
I agree with the issue with the list of exceptions to wiki page names with "." -> it can't work, the list is infinite
luci: what I do is: svn export https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/trunk trunk
Is that wrong somehow? ,)
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r16409 10/trunk/_htaccess: [FIX] Rewrite rules to lookup for existing files before applying rules
svn co https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/trunk trunk
checkout ^^
I dont want a 'working' copy, only a copy for tarballing it, it export not good for that?
ohertel: i do checkout and svn up then only but to avoid svn dirs export might be correct
I've been thinking on the lines of calling the wikipages something like www.example.com/wiki/page.name_with.dots.or.not instead of trying www.example.com/page.name_with.dots.or.not
Can someone else try a fresh export? ^^
Easier to separate what is a wiki page from the rest, no ?
Okay, eclipse with svn gives me the same broken tiki-setup.php.
147 lines only.
ohertel, i have the same
broken too?
try diff or last commit msg if anything changed
or eclipse+svn? ,)
i don't consider it broken as it doesn't break my tiki, just the same length ;)
But it's incomplete!
i understand
starts with <?php and ends with $smart->assign(...); ... thats definitely borked. ^^
http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/tiki-setup.php?view=log
hm...
seems to have been like that for months ohertel
So it is broken and no one ever found out?
are you sure trunk uses that file still ?
If not, why is it still in then? 
luciash: if not why was it modified 13 days ago?
no idea :)
but someone said closing ?> is not mandatory in php and for some reason it should be like that
iirc
Sorry, but not closing tags is pretty bad style. No?
for some other problems
tiki-setup is still used... no questions on that
yes, i wouldn't do that either ;)
And at work I tried to run it and got "premature end" or something like that. ,)
which PHP version?
No idea. 5.something.
it's maybe in newer php versions, dunno, see the logs who introduced it
ohertel: the export does work here
php files should always close, so you know that you have the full file and not just the half.
Caarrie: yah, and ending NOT with ?> too, right? :)
the tiki-setup.php I mean
ohertel: as i said above it is the same for months in svn ;)
But that doesnt make it any better. .P
weird, i can't see it in the logs... might be it was another file
I can confirm that trunk works...
Ok, no broken tarball then, only a 'weird' one. .D
may not be the tarball that's broken
no ?> at end of file is valid PHP
Yah, but it confused me a lot. So why not close it... it looks so incomplete. :)
the purpose of not closing it is that you have less risks of having characters after the end and break headers... many bad IDEs keep adding lines at the end
ah okay.
Breaks your neck if you set stuff in php with trailing whitespace and then try to set headers... "headers already set" ... I know that one. ^^
maybe we can put a comment into the file at the end
set -> sent
 // stop reading here .)
to prevent other confusions ;)
 // ?>
good idea. :) Last time I tried a fresh checkout I got this problem with categories, where I didnt see the ...categorized permission and therefor couldnt get stuff working. 
ohertel: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/tiki-setup.php?r1=9585&r2=9595 ;) look at the last line of the diff
nyoth did that commit it seems
ah there it is... or better: there it went. ,)
" * remove some optional php closing tags to reduce risks (e.g. headers sent too early due to carriage return after the closing tag)"
no idea what that means though
Yah I remember, see above. :)
if you set stuff in php, and inbetween or the end is a linebreak or a space, and then you try to set http headers, you get an error like "headers already sent".
And if you use the ?> then it seems the chance is great that some bad IDE / editor adds a linefeed or something, breaking the application. :)
do you still need the tar?
No, but thanks for checking.
about 2 minutes and it will be uploaded :P
No, dont need it, as I know it will be the same as mine. :)
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16410 10/trunk/lib/tiki-js.js: [FIX] Suppress alert("Handler could not be removed") when addEvent fails
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16411 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [FIX]wysiwyg: it makes no sense to check semi parsed and parsed - only one
Any idea why a G1 phone insists on showing source HTML of http://mobile.theredbulls.org/ instead of the TW mobile page?
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16412 10/trunk/tiki-pagehistory.php: [FIX]history: fix source for html page
polom
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16414 10/trunk/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl: [FIX] no wysiwyg if no javascript
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16415 10/trunk/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl: oops
tikiwiki: 03patrickallard * r16416 10/trunk/templates/tiki-searchresults.tpl: [ENH] Re-indenting and improving search results to make many things optional, as adjustable in tiki-admin.php?page=search
Is there any way to have blog posts sorted by creation date ASCENDING; (oldest first)?
btiffin: See if /tiki-view_blog.php?blogId=1 offers a sortable date column.  I don't remember one.
btiffin: Nope, not seeing a date sort either. http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_blog.php?blogId=26
 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2264 - closing tracker items make them appear in since_last_visit_new module as ... - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2264
 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2265 - Send to a URL or page upon logout - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2265
 Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2266 - Trackers category listing does not use categories hierarchy - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2266
?? HI - I want users to be able to be notified if a Wiki page changes.  how do I achieve this?  RSS is not really it,  I want the users to be able to select which page they want to watch.
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r16417 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] Turning off a few experimental features on a default install. Please revert if you feel these features should be on.
Lateral, Did you try the Eyeball   Monitor this page  icon?   I'll be honest, I've never
Btiffin - No - New to this and trying to get my head around it all - The documentation is very expansive and hard to find the wood for the trees
I'll go look for this EYE Ball icon - where do I find it? 
Is it a module?
Lateral: at the bottom of each page - there's a little icon that looks like an eyeball
If users click it - they get an email anytime the page changes
I don't see this lcon - sounds like what I want
Click into the "Admin" page, then into the "Wiki" section
There's probably a config option in there to allow users to subscribe to wiki pages that you need to turn on.
done that
ok looking 
(I know there's an option - just not 100% sure which admin panel it lives in)
Lateral; With the theme we use; it's top right of each page along with the edit/print/save to notepad icons
I see wiki watch - I just turned all on
(yeah - sorry - I forgot that I made my own theme and moved everything around :-)
I'll just check a page - thks for this help, by the way
If it doesn't work immediately - you need to click the 3 "cache exterminator" icons in the system menu
good tip - I'll go find them
Umm; Lateral;  The top two wiki watch settings means auto-set watch if you edit or author; might be overkill for some users
Yes - just trying to get the icon up and then back off settings
And under my  My Tiki  menu there is a My Watches;  Do you see that menu item?
Did the cache exterm -  still can't see the eyeball - 
um - I go look
ok - might be onto something  - My tiki menu display is weird
my user is different somehow
Under  Admin; Features; User tab   User Watches is set there it seems
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16418 10/trunk/tiki-download_file.php: notice
I need a few minutes to figure this out  - this help is great
:)  Tiki is a fair sized beasty.  I've got to convince some of our team that it ISN'T too big, but just right for an ALL-IN system.   ;)
bingo - that's got it
This is one hell of a program - I stumbled over it from MediaWiki because I wanted group control
I'm going to tell my boss to throw some cash at this - I guess there is a "donations" or support page somewhere
Ok - got the eyeball now and seems to work
thks
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r16419 10/trunk/lib/core/ (6 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Adding basic support to fetch plugin info and repair broken tests by path changes in files
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16420 10/trunk/_htaccess: oops
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r16421 10/trunk/tiki-user_preferences.php: [INDENT] No changes
I'm seeing an error in the third cache flush option with SEFURL postfilter on. tiki-admin_system.php?do=temp_cache
Actually, I'm getting a DB error message on my trunk test site, although I don't see what's wrong in the DB message.
tikiwiki: 03sewilco * r16422 10/trunk/db/features.csv: [FIX] spelling
anyone successfully get TikiWiki 2.2 running on Windows with IIS/MySQL/PHP ??
looking for help with TikiWiki 2.2 install on Windows ...
better to tell what is your problem - got some IIS install in 1.10
:-(