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SEWilco2There is no smiley for "Didn't read directions". [00:04]
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CIA-50tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r16423 10/trunk/lib/ (setup/prefs.php userslib.php):
tikiwiki: [ENH] Added pref: remembermethod as first attempt to mend the rememberme function
tikiwiki: If absent or empty behaves as before (cookie hash value dependent on IP address)
tikiwiki: If remembermethod=simple (new) uses random number as cookie hash value 		[00:28]
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latlink?? Still got an issue with missing picture upload dialogue box and browse button on 2.2
I have listed it in the forum
http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=31820&topics_offset=6&topics_sort_mode=lastPost_desc&forumId=6
but no real response yet - wondering if anyone here has an idea 		[01:31]
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Perhaps it is a preference somewhere but I can't find it
Anyone got any clues? 		[01:57]
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dad-dI am having trouble getting my custom menu to show up on pages other then admin log-in [04:15]
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dad-dAnyone know how to make items show up on custom menus [04:19]
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chibaguydad-d, (if you come back) note that menu items have groups and permissions (see example of default menu).
or can have.... 		[04:21]
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CIA-50tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16424 10/branches/experimental/ui-revamp/styles/feb12.css: [FIX] More robust method for header content/background image alignment. [05:13]
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irc.freenode.net changes topic to: Welcome to #tikiwiki! - Just ask, don't ask to ask !!! - Don't paste code/errors here, use http://pastebin.com - IRC-logging at http://irc.tikiwiki.org - Say "!help" to get info from TikiBot - Running TikiWiki 2.2 is very highly recommended - Thanks and have fun!
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elanhi luciash
r u online now?? 		[09:48]
luciashhi, yup, wassup ? [09:52]
CIA-51tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r16425 10/trunk/ (lib/tikilib.php tiki-editpage.php):
tikiwiki: [ENH] editpage : when editing a page in section mode, go to the section after
tikiwiki: save... Marc is that what you wanted in
tikiwiki: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=1800 		[10:05]
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elancan ne on say how to launc two instance of tiki from appachi
?????????
thanks in advance
hi luci just saw ur msg
sorry for the dealy 		[10:36]
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CIA-51tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r16426 10/trunk/ (lib/tikilib.php tiki-editpage.php):
tikiwiki: [ENH] editpage : allow section edition of the text before the first section.
tikiwiki: Marc, is that what you wanted in :
tikiwiki: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=1800 		[10:50]
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NightworkAnyone actually awake at this hour?
!help 		[11:13]
Tikiwiki|botYou can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot . [11:14]
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luciashelan: just unpack it into another dir ?
elan: i'm not sure i understand 		[11:36]
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Nightworkanyone know much about using the survey feature? [11:48]
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CIA-51tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r16427 10/mods/trunk/themes/litejazz/styles/litejazz.css: [FIX] Background color and border removed from pre tag (since ~pp~ is sometimes used to make "white space" in wiki pages). [12:08]
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sylviegis there a way to say to a plugin that it has an open list of parameters? It seems the no documented parameters are cleaerd now [12:47]
ricks99would b nice to have a 'standard' set of params that could be called by *all* modules (flip, nonums, rows, etc.) [12:51]
sylviegI think lphuberdeau changed something recently about this I have a couple of plugin that are not working anymore... [12:52]
elanhow can i add my personal event in my calender?
any body spend on 5 to 10 mints with me
i need to use the mini calender or normal calender?
!help 		[12:57]
Tikiwiki|botYou can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot . [13:03]
sylviegnormal calendar is maintained - the other one not really [13:04]
elanhow about the personal data
where can i have the all data 		[13:06]
sylviegyou can create a personal calendar [13:07]
elanplz tell me how to do
any link you have which is guide me to get the personal calendar 		[13:07]
sylvieghttp://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Calendar%20Admin&structure=Documentation [13:08]
elanthank you refer and i will come back [13:09]
ricks99q: is there a way to let users choose/change their group *after* registration? i have two groups as "user choice" so users can select at registration time. but i want them to b able to change group affiliation at any time. is this possible? [13:16]
sylviegyes there is a plugin for that [13:16]
ricks99ah....
found it! (subscribe group). tx sylvieg 		[13:17]
sylviegand there another one to subscribegroups
not the same ui 		[13:18]
ricks99not sure i understand the difference.... looking at the doc page now.... [13:19]
stix_Can I write PHP in my custom modules? [13:20]
sylviegyou can do your own module [13:22]
stix_that is what I am trying to do [13:23]
sylviegso create a file modules/mod-yourmodule.php ... some instruction at the bottom of http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Module Admin [13:26]
ricks99sylvieg: plugin works perfectly. tx [13:35]
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stix_sylvieg, I am trying to modify one of the search modules. And they doesn't seem to be in /modules but in /templates/modules. What is the difference here?
and how do I assign a module which is just a php-file in /modules? 		[13:48]
sylviegthe tempaltes is the smarty part - sorry I never tried a module without smarty [13:51]
elanhatn [14:00]
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CIA-51tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16428 10/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]podcast: podcast files have the extension in the path [16:06]
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CIA-51tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16429 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]pod: can display the thumbnail of pod file [16:30]
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tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r16430 10/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
tikiwiki: [ENH] Search : for the old search : add search in Calendar Items, rework the
tikiwiki: results page to print the object type.
tikiwiki: for the new search add a way to reindex all the content based on
tikiwiki: activated features (not perfect but first try). 		[16:53]
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BamieaterI am trying to use PluginTracker as e-mail form, but I cant get the info from the fields into the mail template [17:05]
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Bamieatertried these tags in the message body tpl: {$name} {$1} [17:06]
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CoolKarmaIs this the place to ask a TikiWiki Question? [17:33]
Caarrie!help [17:34]
Tikiwiki|botYou can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot . [17:34]
CoolKarma!help [17:34]
Tikiwiki|botYou can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot . [17:34]
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CIA-51tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r16431 10/trunk/lib/searchlib.php:
tikiwiki: [FIX] searchlib : fix call to the concat function to allow both PDO and AdoDB
tikiwiki: to work properly 		[17:36]
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tikijimihi
i have a question is anybody here? 		[17:39]
Tikiwiki|botWelcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc channel, Please just ask your question, dont ask to ask, someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay awhile
Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc channel, Please just ask your question, dont ask to ask, someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay awhile 		[17:39]
tikijimiok fine... here's my question:
the tiki wiki web site says it has WYSIWYG
so i installed it, but there is no true WYSIWYG!
i tried to edit a page and it gave me the same old wiki syntax that all the other wikis do
is it some feature i still have to enable? 		[17:39]
sylviegbut if you create a new page and use the buttons you have wysiwyg? [17:41]
tikijimino... i never see WYSIWYG... how do i get WYSIWYG? [17:41]
sylviegin admin->features->experimental
and after admin->wyswyg 		[17:42]
tikijimii can't find admin->features -> experimental [17:44]
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tikijimioh nevermind [17:44]
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tikijimiok now i have WYSIWYG activated
but when it shows me the edit window it says "Forbidden, you don't have permission to access /lib/fckeditor/editor/fckeditor.html on this server" 		[17:45]
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sylviegAre you sure your download and installation was fine? Do you have the file ? has the server the perm to see it? [17:47]
tikijimii have the file
my installation said it was correct
the permissions seem to be correct but i'm not sure
i'm used to working in linux but am forced to try to make this work on windows 2003 server
not sure how to do chmod in windows 2003 		[17:48]
sylviegand you enter the url of the file directly in the browser do you have the error?
I have a blank page on mine 		[17:51]
tikijimii have a blank page on mine too when i do it that way
but i get the error when trying to edit a page 		[17:51]
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sylviegtry to clear the cache admin->system admin-> clear temp/cache ... just in case [17:53]
tikijimiok did that... still getting the same error [17:54]
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tikijimiany ideas? [18:02]
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sylviegno sorry [18:03]
lq_570hi there -- I have a question for anyone who has a definitive answer -- does TikiWiki have the capability for the admin to setup something so that users get an email when a category or object has something new (I understand how watches work, that the users have to set them up themselves) (I've looked through the documentation, and I think the answer is no, but I want to be sure) [18:03]
Tikiwiki|botWelcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc channel, Please just ask your question, dont ask to ask, someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay awhile
Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc channel, Please just ask your question, dont ask to ask, someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay awhile 		[18:03]
sylviegthre is a watch category [18:04]
marclaportelq_570: yes
just watch a category 		[18:04]
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lq_570I don't think that's what I'm looking for -- the users have to set the watch themselves, right? [18:04]
marclaporteand once you get it working, can you update the doc
lq_570: : in version 2.o yes
in version 3.0, there is group watch 		[18:05]
lq_570right, got it, thanks [18:05]
marclaportewhere an admin ca subscribe a group to a watch [18:05]
lq_570I do have one other unrelated question which I haven't been able to find an answer to -- We are using TikiWiki for collaboration among the people in our company. We also intend to use it for collaboration with clients. What I'm wondering is, from a security standpoint, is it better to use multiple wikis (ie. one for each client) or use categories and groups to restrict clients' access to areas of the wiki? Or doe [18:06]
sylviegDepending if you haev to share information between both
If not a lot - better to separate 		[18:09]
CIA-51tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16432 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: notice [18:09]
luciashmultitiki [18:14]
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CIA-51tikiwiki: 03luciash * r16433 10/trunk/templates/tiki-view_cache.tpl: [ENH] made Cache: translantable string [18:21]
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CIA-51tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16434 10/trunk/ (7 files in 4 dirs): [MOD]freetag: feature to display or not freetags in the middle column (as they can be displayed in a module [18:31]
lq_570sylvieg and/or luciash: if I'm understanding you, you're suggesting that multiple wikis is better -- can you give me an idea why? [18:34]
sylviegI did not say that - for it depends on the interaction between the 2 spaces - there is some ways to share between tiki but not a lot and mainly like batch or import/export [18:36]
lq_570sorry, I forgot to say that I'm not concerned about the interaction between the 2 spaces [18:37]
sylviegso set 2 tikiwiki
you can use multitiki or not .... I have no real preference for only 2 sites.... 		[18:37]
CIA-51tikiwiki: 03luciash * r16435 10/trunk/styles/thenews.css: [FIX] align top border line of footer nicely with bottom border line of main col [18:45]
luciashlq_570: multitiki is feature of tiki to share one tiki installation files between more sites, but i have no experience with that [18:46]
SEWilco2lq_570: From a security standpoint, better to use separate databases for internal and external data. Same for code.
lq_570: Security concepts don't care if TikiWiki permissions presently work. If you want to avoid problems due to bad permissions, separate the data.
lq_570: So as no interaction is needed, just set up separate databases and separate copies of TikiWiki code.
That's one for all clients, and one for internal. Whether to put all clients in same database is up to you.
lq_570: If there is little damage if clients accidentally see the wrong info, you can use one database for all of them and depend upon permissions.
lq_570: If clients need to be isolated, or if you need to be able to completely remove one client's data, then one database per client is safer. 		[18:50]
CIA-51tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16436 10/trunk/templates/tiki-plugin_blocked.tpl: [FIX] indetation + take away one </div> [18:55]
SEWilco2lq_570: (When one client is "removed", that TW only needs to be removed from public access -- the data and site could still be available internally)
lq_570: Although things get complex if you have many clients. The more clients and the smaller the data per client, the more benefits of keeping them all in one database. 		[18:55]
lq_570SEWilco2: hypothetically, if there was a hacker at one of our clients, it would be better to have that client information in a separate wiki -- it would be then harder for them to access other information -- am I right? [18:59]
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SEWilco2lq_570: For some values of hypotheses, yes. The level of difficulty depends upon many things. [19:20]
lq_570OK, thanks for your help [19:28]
luciashwhat happened to wiki structures on trunk ? when i enable the feature on admin > wiki i just get No records found on the tiki-admin_structures.php [19:34]
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CIA-51tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16438 10/trunk/lib/ (freetag/freetaglib.php setup/freetags.php): [FIX]freetag: fix freetaging wiki page [20:10]
SEWilco2luciash: Maybe there's no structure to admin yet? Did you create a structure? [20:14]
sylvieghmm I thouight I fixed it - perhaps it is still on my local... [20:17]
I did the commit - but there is another problem the perm does not seem to be loaded - I cleared the cache and ok [20:22]
SEWilco2"cache and ok" not understood.
Permission-affected stuff can be in cache, so it should be cleared after changing permissions.
(but I think you know the cache) 		[20:22]
luciashSEWilco2: how can i create structure, when there's no way to do that ? [20:25]
sylviegclear the cache
it is a commit lph did that gets the perms only if the feature is activated - and he did not clean the cache when a new feature was activated 		[20:26]
luciashsylvieg: ok, i did that yesterday, but not today, lemme try
sylvieg: ah, yup, thank you :)
luciash always forget how fast things can change in trunk ;)
forgets 		[20:27]
CIA-51tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r16439 10/trunk/lib/core/test/AllTests.php: - Use ; instead of : to separate include path directories in lib/core/test/AllTests.php. [20:32]
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luciashwhere is the edit help icon switch off/on ?
luciash cannot find it on Features nor Wiki Admin 		[20:48]
sylviegah ah... fixed position right in the window - I do not like that [20:49]
luciashyep, i suppose it's optional
isn't it ? 		[20:49]
sylviegno only depending of javascript [20:50]
luciashhrm
i think it should be optional 		[20:50]
sylviegagree [20:50]
luciashi'd prefer to open the wiki help/plugins help in shadowbox than this current state of the help icon functionality [20:51]
sylviegWe taught about redoing it - but we need a good designer to advice
if you have idea luciash , do it or send a note on devel 		[20:51]
luciashwell, there are couple of ways how to do it
sure
e.g. if this icon would be draggable and the wiki help frame resizable it would be much more usable 		[20:52]
sylviegagree [20:53]
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SEWilco2luciash: Structure creation is done inside Wiki. Look at the "Wiki" menu for "Structures". [21:18]
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luciashsylvieg: Structures admin page lost browser title [21:31]
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CIA-51tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16440 10/trunk/templates/header.tpl: [FIX]typo on sitetiel [21:44]
sylviegsite title back [21:44]
SEWilco2SEWilco2 grouts between the site tiels. [21:48]
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neuronHi
I´m very new to tikiwiki and I am trying to find out how to put code inside article. The code contains html tags and spans several lines.
I tried ~np~ ... ~/np~; ~pp~...~/pp~ and {CODE()}...{CODE}
Every time it seems that my browser interprets the html tags
Am I doing something wrong ? 		[21:55]
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SEWilco2neuron: Are there any blank lines? TO ALL: should blank lines matter within ~np~?
neuron: Are you using the normal editor or the experimental WYSIWYG editor?
neuron: Did you save the page and then see what it looked like? Preview might behave differently than the actual page. 		[22:05]
neuronSEWilco2: Yes, there are blank lines. But it does not seem to work even without any blank lines. I tired ~np~n<B>n~/np~ (n is new line). It does not display anything
SEWilco2: It´s not wysiwig, so I guess it´s the normal editor
SEWilco2: I did save the page.
I didn´t install tikiwiki myself, so the instalation can be broken. I even don´t know how to find out which version it is. I am just trying to find out what is the proper way to include html code to article
And if the ¨proper way¨ won´t work for me, I can dive into the code, or complain on mailinglist :) 		[22:08]
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neuronOr maybe it´s feature, and I have to change every < into &lt; ? [22:14]
SEWilco2If you're an admin, recent versions of TW show the version number on tiki-admin.php?page=general
Nobody else seems to have suggestions.
This is a Wiki page, and not an HTML page?
(at this time of day USA people might be moving from work to home... many of those in Europe are asleep) 		[22:16]
neuronSEWilco2: Actually it´s article, not a wiki page if it makes difference
Yeah, I might be in different timezone, I'm from Europe 		[22:18]
SEWilco2I think there's an Article configuration option for "Allow HTML". I don't know how ~np~ behaves if that is on. [22:19]
neurontiki-admin.php?page=general says version 2.2
Ah, I know that there is the ¨Allow HTML¨ checkobx, but I haven't played with that. That's easy to try
Nope, no change with the ¨Allow HTML¨ checkbox. Strange thing is that if I check it, save and edit again, the checkbox is unchecked. 		[22:21]
CIA-51tikiwiki: 03stojanovim * r16441 10/trunk/lib/core/ (8 files in 5 dirs): - first shot at GoogleTranslateWrapper [22:25]
neuronSmarty has escape directive, but {CODE()|escape} does not seem to do anything ... [22:28]
lphuberdeauwiki plugins have nothing to do with smarty [22:30]
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neuronlphuberdeau: Ah, ok. It's all new for me.
Well maybe I'll just have to bite the bullet and escape manually every < > & and such. Again I'm newbie, so maybe I'm asking for wrong thing. 		[22:31]
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SEWilco2If HTML examples can't be displayed, there should be a trouble ticket on http://dev.tikiwiki.org/ - whether it's a code or documentation difficulty. [22:54]
neuronThat's good ida! Thank you for your help SEWilco2 and lphuberdeau [22:58]
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