amette: please svn up styles/thenews.css on dev.tw.o and doc.tw.o (or whoever else has a ssh access) amette is at the pub marclaporte: i know, but later he'll come back hopefully :) marclaporte: aren't you there too ? just closing up luciash: can you help with Site Identity issues? just sent mail on dev list I want to use Site Identity for WikiSym 2009 site as great dogfood siteIdentity from my experience is working for one site - never use it in a multisite contex That's odd. My TW 3 test site has The News theme now, but I configured it for a different theme quite a while ago. Maybe the other admin changed the theme, but it's unlikely he chose to do that tonight. And I don't see any menus. How odd. Well, I'll look at it more tomorrow. polom polom polom Good morning from TikiFest Montreal 2009. Video streaming has started. :-) http://www.ustream.tv/channel/tikifests no audio ? hello hi all thx gary still working on the microphone. Our fancy mic doesn't seem to work this morning. Are you getting sound? just a little bit - sound is low can not understand marc chibaguy: oh, what a pity but 10mn ago was ok better Any sound now? out again ok, I'm going to switch usb ports. one moment please... Streaming on again. How's the sound? VU meter shows sound. Oh, wait, just now turned on streaming. perfect hm, no sound for me, must be my desktop, grr try again, luciash, it's been on and off here quite a bit hmm, sound from my mic is ok oops heh. mic fell down. oops ? ah :) damn, my FF hanged up again i'll try flock or something else *g*, does one say "hanged up" about a browser ? hang/hung/hung up - yes, it's just an irregular verb does it hang up then as a hang-man ? yup *g*, weird to imagine that ;) amette: is the logo good ? :-) Yeah, looks good, didn't examine it too well yet - I'll soon build it in the site, then you can have a look would be maybe better if the T contained some "$ _" or "# _" blended in it ;) Hello to all TikiFest participants! Great to see you all what time is the meeting with Jonny? 11am thx suddenly there is a real bad echo problem with audio playbeck, brb echo still a problem? I don't notice it here (monitoring). figured it out. I loaded the ustream feed then went to the tikifest page. Interesting effect right. make sure only one window of stream at a time. I did that too, before. The tikifest page doesn't get the bubble ads! So, who's speaking (lots of ignorance here). Is that Marc? re I have a list of commits in a - I stop to do it on sept - But i can continue it yes, that's Marc in a 'good' English' so far I can do ti ;-) will update the list this week and publy it somewhere uSlacker: what do you mean by bubble adverts ? woot, sound is back :) on the ustream page, they pop up adverts over the stream every 30 seconds or so they cover the bottom 15% of the stream window which page marc is on? he was working from tikifestmontreal2009 who came in ? :) nice mic! great - Intros! speak up! luciash: haven't had a problem here. Sound & stream have been fine it's ok already you look great now! :) who's the gentleman to Marc's left? are you looking via ustream.tv site or http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestMontreal2009#Live ? march is between Olaf-Michael Stefanov and Jean-Marc Libs marc sorry I'm on the tikifest page thx Jungle Tiki :) sound is lower suddenly ah, it's ok again Well, daughter's 16th b'day today plus she has a hockey game. I'll have to jump out for while. uSlacker: sure :) hello tikifesters :) hello ricks99 helloya what, another private conference is planned in the other room ? good :) it's working sound is ok here luciash: check it out, logo is added amette: kewl ! I wonder: shouldn't it have a genitiv apostrophe after the Sysadmins? tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r16995 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [UI] Don't display "Go back" link when it does not make sense oh, no idea, i'm no native speaker... i thought it's simmilar to "tikiwiki developers site" ask gary ;) which is imho wrong also :P chibaguy1: ping ;) should actually be developers' (plural possessive) ok, let's fix it then great, that's what I meant - thanks, ricks99 :) yeah, that's most accurate. :) amette: have you read the svn up request ? nope ok, I'll quickly do it on doc for testing.. or could simply be "developer site" amette: thx bro ah, well, I can do it on dev too ok, done smoke break ;) ricks99: "TikiWiki Developer Site" ? hahah :) for real! :) y. note that the site title currently reads "tikiwiki develoment site" should match (imho) amette: i almost forgot your smoke breaks ;) just finished organizing our day here and now I will start working, but need to stop my hands from shaking, first ;) make all sites parallel structure: "developer site", "community site", "documentation site" It'd probably be better to not use possessive. (no apostrophe), right? that's a little conversational style, not so official seeming. ricks99: ok, so "TikiWiki Sysadmin Area" would be corrct ? *correct ? y luciash and if there's plural there must be the apostrophe after s ? tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r16996 10/trunk/testGD.php: [FIX] Has been replaced by tiki-testGD.php i agree with gary -- drop the possessives completely ok what's on schedule now ? waiting for ... ? for end of the amette's smokebreak ? I don't know. Everybody's busy at their keyboards.... heheh Monkeys of the Tiki jungle.... what about if i omit the taglines completely and we put them there using custom code + CSS as regular text ? from the logos *g* ok, so we go finally to rename Tiki to Joongla ? ;) Yes, I think the tag lines are a little too cluttered-looking. sure, luciash, Joomla guys wouldn't mind, I'm sure... ;-) polom i think so too (after some while looking at them back) and it would make more easy to adjust them or even make them translatable heya xavi ! my distant participant fellow ! :D *g* he just quitted so fast :D tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r16997 10/trunk/db/tiki-secdb_3.0_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 3.0beta1 woot, bro is back wb xavi :-p hi - anyone used the release.php now? I am trying to build a prerelease tarball :) looks like it created secdb automatically hi luciash and all hi jonnyb ! hi xavi - hi all! :) skype can record too, right ? heya jonny ! greetings jonnyb: : soon ready? i can record audio on skype, no sure about video will it be audio conference call or video conference ? bbl audio audio i guess i have webcam too + will be streamed via ustream.tv on our side. (ambience) cool we're going to use a regular phone on this side, for the speaker.... coo - there's an email (on devel) from someone about a Northumbrian tiki (The Northumbrian Pipers' Society) - that's where i am at the moment! thanks for svn up amette, dev trackers look much better now need to disappear for 5 mins - back at 11:00(ish) jonnyb: physically at their hq ? no, just in the county or northumberland (i'm usually in London) brb okay :) quotes look cool here: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hello+World hey btw, guys and gals, we have great opportunity to have a Satellite TV report about this TikiFest ! if you can make some interview(s) over there that would be great to use it... back - woo! Marc pointed out that the quote plugin wasn't very noticeable. marclaporte: what do you think ? (only italics before) chibaguy1: yep, thanks for enhancing the CSS sure yes, I like this now! clear looks like email client indentation is the ustream thing working? i'm not getting video what format do you store the footage ? what kind of video camera is that ? jonnyb: yep, it's working for me camera is a Sony HandyCam (small digital tape) has usb streaming function friends: we are soon starting conference call I don't know what the format of saved shows is. (on ustream server) about Quicktags/toolbar and jquery meeting is streamed (audio & video) great and you can respond via IRC we'll read you here on projector chibaguy1: ah, thanks for info, i'm not sure it would be usable for TV (NTSC format size) but i'll try to find out marclaporte: great chibaguy1: but if you have a spare tape and can get it to computer then via dv cable a little interview and few shots would be great... I think release.php is written in such a way that I have to create the new branch first. I think ther eis another script for that... chibaguy1: it could be aired on english.ntdtv.com if we put it together here hey, i can see this irc chat on ustream! :D jonnyb: yes, i played with it a bit ;) chibaguy1: we can make few shots here then me sitting in front of my computer and participating directly ;) +1 yes yes we can yes ok, conference starts, lets focus on it now :) *g* :) sound is perfect, jonnyb :) tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r16998 10/branches/3.0/: [BRANCH] Creation, trunk 0 to 16997 sounds good... :-) european tikifests... yep sylvieg: sorry abt that. when were you planning on committing those? np nkoth3 I can commit in trunk - I will commit as soon there is no more bugs (and listening you guys and debugging is not efficcient) thanks sylvieg it's fine gary ok for quickbars ;) how do they call it in WikiMedia ? i know the have a Toolbox name for the module on the left... quicktag / freetag are too close name with no connection its a toolbar in mediawiki toolbar is fine for me but you drap and drop for Bold - what does it mean? yep, toolbar sounds good, it's the same for FCKeditor right ? ah admin panel do you see our IRC messages at the tikifest ? but toolbar is the place where are the icons nope, not right now... .... marc as his browser fullscreen and no other projector available amette: ok why not icon from a file gal? sylvieg: ? icon for what ? icon for menu sylvieg: could be an option jonnyb: i've commited correctPNG for IE6 but it doesn't work with background images, so it would need redo the big Admin icons, because they're actually background images in the boxes I do not believe that we will offer enough icons for all the need - and we will have license problem... luciash: we can use conditional css for ie6 to use 8bit bg images FI, for those who are interested in testing icons for menus, this part was commited in ui_revamp2 experimental branch nyloth: do you plan to merge into trunk (3?) because it is not risky at ell... sylvieg: it's not risky at all, but it depends on the others opinion the Admin > Admin Home section should be renamed to Admin > Preferences (imho) (all what goes to preferences table) (I'd like to have chibaguy feedback too) the rest is admin-something what is actually administering the enabled features (not preferences) also would be nice if every section like Wiki, Galleries, Blogs, Trackers, etc. would have an Admin link and a Preferences link if logged as admin and it can be more than 1 level (the submenus) maintain antoher branch is a painful procees if we choose jquery - it is now my 2 cetns +1 jonnyb: is it painful to merge or you work in very isolated places the final goodie would be that admin could choose to display last created items or items selected "display them in menu) under the expandable menu (setting max items to display), like Trackers > My Test Tracker > Item 1, or Wiki > HomPage, Wiki > My Test Wiki Page, etc. some way they can be inserted to be displayed dynamically ;) good idea, luciash (I hope it's not difficult to implement...) xavi: you got nice light there today evening ;) xavi: i hope too :-p xavi did you put your tw teeshirst ;-) and luciash too (I have no tw teeshirt) sylvieg: yup, got no one on last tikifest ? what a pity s/no one/none luciash, I chaged the webcam... thats why :-) (light is the same, but I'm using a conceptronics webcam, because logitech's decided not to work today). And this other one has better luminosity ... URL to see it in action on the original superfish site: http://users.tpg.com.au/j_birch/plugins/superfish/#examples xavi: wow sylvieg: Yes, nowadays, I have two (!): one from TikiFestPorto and another from TikiFestMadrid... I had to refresh the tw.o page this morning to make the stream wake up. sylvieg: which is your size (of T-Shirt, Imean :-) )... so that you can receive another type of present... ;-) if the storm is not too strong tomoorow I will go to Montreal cool :) great! waiting for the broadcast yay sylvieg! we will have 3 days of snow storm in Boston :-( oups sylvieg: so you'll be better here I suppose ;) yeh mintreal is fine - it is this kind of coast storm i don't know why this z-index should be necessary, it works without in thenews.css iirc it doesn't show admin info onmouseover here even when enabled :( it's weird because it doesn't show even as a link, only plain text jonnyb: superfish menu works here though :) nyloth: fresh install ui-revamp2 - I have sql error insert into `tiki_menus` (`name`,`description`,`type`,`icon`,`use_items_icons`) values('test','test','d','') sylvieg: thx, there's a missing value it seems I just discovered that mb_string is not a default php extension nyloth: fresh install I also have Unknown column 'use_items_icons' in 'field list' we now need it for tiki I think nkoth3: yes but we have a 'default function I think sylvieg: what do you mean "default" function? tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r16999 10/branches/experimental/ui-revamp2/lib/menubuilder/menulib.php: sql error if (!function_exist('mb_string') ) function mb_string() { marclaporte: i think we don't have lot of stuff depending on mootools and what there is it already works with jquery too if i am not mistaken there was the mypage from niclone .... but it has been removed from trunk sylvieg: yes, field missing in tiki.sql. Are you on the fix ? but as it will be optional to use mootools or jquery, it could be there anyway ? sylvieg: (if not, i'll do right now) if we put jquery there now, ppl will start using it and develop on it ok ahead - thx nyloth and be happy having it available tom is using a lot of mootools - but he is not committing back .... I suppose we can ignore the problem sylvieg: we can still keep mootools in (have it optional) and maybe remove mootools later to mods for 4.0 marclaporte: preferences for jquery is on Admin > Look & Feel then beta +1 it's not candidate preview,alpha,beta but not RC yet no preference do we have a page with blocking bugs? I don't think so yes, isn't that on roadmap? http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Release30process no preference ? after 5 min checking several jquery plugins for slideshows, from the end user point of view and what I read on their pages, why not starting with: "JQuery Cycle Plugin" ?: http://malsup.com/jquery/cycle/ my 2 cents lightweight, and versatile... how do we do svn diff jquery with trunk? that's what i'm wondering... svn diff -r 16997 even if 16997 in trunk is not working and documntation hatnks xavi - nice cycle thingy also, thanks ;) welcome, you know, jonnyb heh, does it look like bicycle ? :-) tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r17000 10/branches/experimental/ui-revamp2/db/ (7 files): [FIX] fix missing sql definitions ah, funny effects :) :-) eperimental mootools - I like that - but it is true thx nyloth installer profile would offer it +1 maybe with (Experimental) note yy sylvieg: I agree with you, there is a lack of an easy way to obtain a diff between an experimental branch and trunk... this worry me I can locally do a merge - at least this will work sylvieg: ok, if you do so, I'm interested in how many files are affected jonnyb/others, have you tried the docs/devtools/svnbranchreview.php? nkoth3: no, I was not aware of this it can definitely bring some new people users or devs nkoth3: that's sounds like the one! sylvieg: try svnbranchreview.php tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17001 10/branches/experimental/ui-revamp2/lib/menubuilder/menulib.php: sql error I have no problem with jquery being merged into trunk right now, but I think we should have a more general discussion about when to merge experimental branches back into trunk. It should not be done just before a technical release, but just after a final release, IMO nyloth where do I give the icon to an option? sylvieg: in lokk and feel s/lokk/look/ sylvieg: It's a feature to activate in admin look and feel + an option in each menu when activated, you can have a look at the menu 42 which has default icons what do I give for icon? a path? sylvieg: right now, it's an id (since the underlaying stuff uses smarty icon) in pics/large folder (ie. the name of an image there, witthout the file extension) ah... sylvieg: I agree we could allow to pick an image through the filegals or with a full path. No problem for me sylvieg: using id allows to have pics/large folders in each theme folder yeh sure - perhaps it is possible to have a dropdow of all the possibilities yes why not I do not see the icon in the preview when I edit an option with an icon - I lost the icon ... sylvieg: sorry, just now you were saying what default? sylvieg: maybe a bug, didn't saw this problem before nkoth3: ?? when I was asking about the mb_string nyloth: I put eye - but I see nothing in a tiki menu - thanks jonnyb thx jonnyb thanks all nkoth3: loosig my brain.... where is it jonnyb: they would drink all you beer, so take yours safely in UK ;-) :D heh s/all you beer/all your beer on one of my server, I get Call to undefined function mb_internal_encoding() in /var/www/html/3.0/tiki-setup_base.php on line 508 bibi - more later bye jonny loosing the sound... maybe the mic is using batteries, and they are loosing power? usb powered... same happened here some minutes ago... I had to turn the speakers louder... I just turned up the audio control better thx gary xavi: now i get chocked too when i switched from flock to firefox with lot of opened tabs ok, good enough anyway, for me. and better here also... thanks Gary for taking care of overseas attendants :-) hrm, now it gets interupted here too nkoth3: for mb_internal_encoding - ask tricia - she is sit close to you she added the line - I did not know why - but IO thought it was not too bad - but I did not think the mb is optional olaf's firefox shows no text on mouseovers on the admin icons, when there's only one word. Multiple words display ok. He says other users have reported the same thing. Sound is great when people are huddled around the mic. ;-) oh soory tricia puts back the line she commented sylvieg: i thought she rollbacked the accidental commit, nope ? yes sorry nkoth3: the compat funstions are in lib/setup/compat.php hello nyloth: tikiwiki/trunk/tiki-setup_base.php?r1=15125&r2=15132 you delete the check on the mb_ existence - and now nkoth3 is stucked luciash: sysadm.tw.o now accessible without /etc/hosts - it's moved back to it's old IP hi xavi :) ok, that's why i couldn't connect to it recently could you right here the url that this woman said? sylvieg: could you please reinstall a ui_revamp2 and have a look ? s/right/write sylvieg: after an svn up tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r17002 10/branches/experimental/ui-revamp2/ (8 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] enable the icons for menu 42 by default (the admin still need to enable the global feature) + fix default icons for menu 42 for new installs chibaguy1: could you please write here the url of that place she's talking aobut? relted to biomed central? http://biomedcom.org/tikiwiki/ nkoth3: should be better tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17003 10/trunk/tiki-setup_base.php: [FIX]mb: reintroduce the test to mb existence as th mb strings is not by default in php thanks amette http://www.biomedcom.org/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php thanks anyway chibaguy1 :-) ;) chibaguy1: sure, you don't stop playing with the cam ;p tricia: you can split the 300 different fields in different apges - ask sebastian at cgcom nyloth: did you do the icon menu in each menu layout (phplayer, tiki, css)? sylvieg: yes hie tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r17004 10/branches/3.0/tiki-setup_base.php: [FIX]mb: reintroduce the test to mb existence as th mb strings is not by default in php sylvieg: hie ? hello :-) :) tricia louder - I can not hear thx sound better tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r17005 10/branches/3.0/db/tiki-secdb_3.0_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 3.0beta1 using what? vista? sylvieg: yes sylvieg: ff on vista tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r17006 10/trunk/ (lang/fr/language.php templates/tiki-install.tpl): [ENH] Translations in installer single word img title tags not appearing on firefox on vista sylvieg: did you have a look at icons in menus ? (should work better in tikinews theme I think) still not working sylvieg: what's not working ? preview is not done yet no the modules you don't see any icons ? no I put eye as icon name for isnatnce sylvieg: cache cleared ? sylvieg: 'eye.png' does not exist in pics/large (the background noise is mainly amette typing on his laptop with a lot of energy ;) ) oops, sorry :P nyloth: I acn not have it working... sylvieg: at least, after enabling the feature, you should see icons in the menu 42 without doing anything else ok on aplic menu I haev big ? nyloth: ROFL what do you put in the Icon field ? help for instance? Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc Channel. TikiWiki or better known as TW, is your Groupware/CMS (Content Management System) solution, you can get more infomation at http://info.tikiwiki.org/ . sylvieg: you should have more than '?' icons. Have you svn up ? sylvieg: svn up + reinstall database in the field, if you want, for example, pics/large/intertiki48x48.png , then you have to put 'intertiki48x48' luciash: :) amette is lucky he got hard-typing proof ThinkPad so he had not to go to warranty service every month ;) yup, yup - best laptop keyboards _ever_ :) snif ,,.. I redid the dddb - but I lost my menus ... ok I have icon in the main menu :-) :) sylvieg: so, probably improvments needed, but it's a start to have a default application menu with big icons sylvieg: I kept the same icons as in admin panel luciash: just checkout ui_revamp2, make a default install, and enable the first checkbox in admin - look and feel - other ah icon are only for section? not option? I have a toggle on my local menu but the 'eye' icon is still nto showing chibaguy1: the camera mode does some fancy RGB color effects on LCD and projected screens, can you have a look later if it can be setup in the camera menu to some TV or Screen shooting mode ? (It's usually caused by the low screen vertical and horizontal refresh that they appear so) chibaguy1: but if it's not easily fixable don't worry about it, it's not that bad, just noticeable sylvieg: yes, just sections. The initial goal was to be able to fold the menu and keep only icons (so, just icons for sections) sylvieg: 'eye.png' does not exist in pics/large tikifesters: aren't you hungry people ? no lunch time today ? ;) no lunch before the last day of the tikifest *g* :) aah, amette is already eating ! :D ah and I bet that the others are wondering "when are we going to stop for food?", but don't dare to ask... bring some pizzas to the room, and you'll see who is hungry... :-) ok pics/icons/eye.png is working ... it is magnified but working at least, that's kind of what we did in Madrid (kind-of, just kidding, but the pizzas were delicious) hehe... he should not... Marc is supposed to get some pizzas soon :) how many pizzas here ? sylvieg: ok :) it's due to how icon plugin works sylvieg, add the icon of a big pizza, to see if they react! there is a little to eat in the reception area (left over from yesterday). lunch should be soon (I hope). chibaguy1: we have to make some pressure on marc for this ;) yes, I knew it, Gary confessed it ! :-) nyloth: also I loose the fact a tiki menu section is open - perhaps it is not a bug? Ah, Marc is ordering pizza :-) bbl, dog walk nyloth: it works fine with phplayers (my small icons are small) +1 for the menus icons sylvieg: what do you mean by "loosing the fact a tiki menu section is open" ? Is should work nice thx nyloth sylvieg: thx in the application menu if I open the admin section - next page it is closed sylvieg: there is probably some more tuning to do, but it should not hurt to merge since it's optional too yes I think so - and it is a long time whish sylvieg: this behavior should not be related to icons. strange nyloth: I switched back to application menu without icon - the section stays open sylvieg: ok, no idea yet good point nyloth - we should change the message? are you really sure??? because if you put the file on disk it is read by chunck.. it is only if you work on memory just purely to test the release package script: I have created some preview packages.... can help test/check if it's ok? http://vps2.etazo.net/tikiwiki-3.0.prebeta1.zip ok I test http://vps2.etazo.net/tikiwiki-3.0.prebeta1.tar.gz ok I test also http://vps2.etazo.net/tikiwiki-3.0.prebeta1.tar.bz2 sylvieg: for file uploads, you tiki will always use a certain amount of memory sylvieg: but it uses more memory when storing in database (twice the size of the file + tiki size, instead of file + tiki size) the twice the size can be fixed - I think... i do not know to much - my test was not showing that - but it is a long time ago... sylvieg: I didn't found a way to fix it. It uses twice the size due to the php function that make sure the data is correctly escaped when generating the sql query ah ah... kind of off-topic, sorry, but I recently had to work with dokuwiki at work, and I liked a lot that there was a central place to keep files... (no attachments stored in a different place than file gals...). we need translators for the instal screens xavi: attachments to wiki pages through filegals is planned :) nyloth - cool brilliant, nyloth :-) because it really is not "consistent" otherwise ("duplication" of code) I haev a problem in the tiki3 fresh install - I do not go the change password enforced after install I already told that to rick it is a blocking error for me sylvieg: I saw this pb too rick told me he was not able to reproduce :-( so 3 times - it is a bug nkoth3: you're on the air yo mean when you first logged in as admin? when I quiet install and go in tiki without desinstalling the tiki-install, it does not ask me for admin password changes i see i did it with the deinstalling the tiki-install, it asks me for pw change so the bug is probably there gree *agree definitevly change admin password after fresh install do not work for me it used to be before as sylvie said, now it is so only after you "manually" login as admin/admin but then the text on HomePage didn't make sense on the other hand before, because it says "login as admin with password admin" away with the camera ! there's password to our tw.o site ;) *g* are you recording that gary ? ;) sylvieg, are the first screens of installation expected to be internationalized? xavi: yes I mean, I didn't see any siwtch lang dropdown.... it is translantable Recordeding was in progress but I think I panned away in time. Will check. xavi: on the first screen you can choose language And before I changed permissions (before executed ./setup.sh), all info I see is in English only luciash: do you mean, even if you didn't run ./setup.sh yet? chibaguy1: sorry, i've seen it, you have to cut it out ;) I didn't see how to change lang xavi: nope, these are not translantable yet have to do some food shopping - bbl Hmm, ok. Not sure how to edit these. I'll stop recording and not save. you can save and see but i think they're really there chibaguy, kdenlive has a nice "automask" video effect, to pixelize screen zones... you can save as private and i can look at it oops. too late. sorry. heheh, ok, nevermind :-) you are doing pretty well, Gary! (much better than I did as amateur recording/streaming at the last tikifest) thanks, it's fun and I hope is useful. luciash, do you know if those first messages can be also internationalized? chibaguy1: you got a tripod there ? yes, cgcom has one i'm using. chibaguy1: it's very useful indeeed! xavi: i don't know, maybe yes, but you have to workaround smarty saving of templates_c becasue at that time it's not writable yet ok the main problem is my laptop and the camera have to be plugged into the wall (for power and because the wireless lan isn't working for this pc), so mobility is limited. tripod is very handy, makes the videos much more professional Ola Xavi, nice T-shirt ;) :-) hi Regis... hi Regis :) bring your camera on at that page... so that we can see you too! Hi Luci! regis, can your iphone do streaming also? I'm behind the camera with Gary :) ah... :-) Luci is this a Tiki T-shirt too? Regis: yep :) Great! lol my webcam image gets crappy with low light conditions though hmm, the image stream is not moving anymore, just the audio is ok oups, lost both audio and video ok, back Not sure why the stream isn't streaming... looks ok in the local monitor here. it's ok again I'm going to restart my browser. Just a minute, please. it's off again ok ok, stream should be back. ok now? ok ! ou-key, da real chibaguy :) ok lunch time ! :D yey, vegi pizza for luciash, please! :-) yes yes, please :) send it by fedex ;) Sorry, everyone is going to the next room to eat. I'll show the hallway, etc. chibaguy: hurry up to get yours... ! nice bricks gary :) :-D nkoth3: installer went fine for me, and also installed a profile, for instance, without any problem, using the prebeta1 (tar.bz2) oh well, profiles worked different for me as they did a week ago, using the same profile, which hasn't changed but I guess this is an issue with profiles, not with the whole tiki3 packaging small stomacs are back *g* 3 small stomaches already :) 4 (including chibaguy) ah, four and one behind the camera :-p yep :-) ui_revamp2 branch updated tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r17007 10/branches/experimental/ui-revamp2/ (263 files in 37 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 16743 to 17006 ok, branch 3.0 has landed, let's install amette: sent you updated logo without the tagline thanks bro amette: you can put this in the custom code textarea:
TikiWiki Sysadmin Workspace
or something like that what fits ok amette: later, when there will be reflection.js in 3.0 you will get the reflection on the png too ;) hehe, ok ;) luciash: actually... why not include it with the site image feature or whatever... I'm just doing it like that.. amette: uhm, how ? i don't remember there was possibility to put specific code for that ? but you can use the site title/subtitle but then you have to edit CSS to position it absolutely if you want it over the logo (not under) ah, ok, because of that.. ok, I'll try.. ehm, how do i enable the syntax highlighting in vim again please ? (when i have you "on the line"... :-p) ouch what was it ? microphone fell down back hmmmmm... installer has tests about $prefs, but $prefs is empty because tiki-setup is not included :-(rnI wonder if it makes sense to include it. ok, sorry about the break. cable was tripped over. :-) oops, one moment please. tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r17008 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] If installation happens in https, the default suggestion for https config needs to be https compatible tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r17009 10/trunk/templates/tiki-install.tpl: [FIX] Oops should we not be committing stuff in 3.0 and then merge to trunk? nkoth3: yes yes (updating 3.0 before committing again) tikiwiki: 03luciash * r17010 10/branches/3.0/db/tiki-db.php: [ENH] make the messages translantable when local.php not found hm, how do i get site_title from lib/setup/prefs.php ? We have sitetitle tiki-admin_include_look.tpl and siteTitle in header.tpl, IIRC. 'sitetitle' in tiki-admin_include_look.tpl this file has no template, it is php only ah, i'll try sitetitle thank you gary siteTitle is used in browser title bar and sitetitle in look and feel. tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r17011 10/branches/3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] If installation happens in https, the default suggestion for https config needs to be https compatible hrm, none of them works the two got mixed together and I reinstated how it was before, so I'm surprised to see a problem with the WikiSym site. I thought that was fixed a week or two ago. chibaguy: i'm tolking about my last commit *talking It's just a coincidense then that similar terms are causing a problem for wikisym site, I guess. bbl my kid needs a drive Revision 16707 - I thought that fixed it. the siteTitle is correctly set on line 949 of lib/setup/prefs.php but it doesn't display via db/tiki-db.php using prefs['siteTitle'] *$prefs['siteTitle'] btw, i think this siteTitle preference should go somewhere else than look and feel ? luciash, what does that siteTitle refer to? That's what appears in the browser title bar. yes OK, and 'sitetitle' is the variable for what is set in Look and Feel (big text at page top), right? i guess so there's some subtitle too right. So to put up a site quickly, just text can be used instead of logo. yup luciash: syn on sorry - I was immediately gone.. ;) amette: ah :) danke/kiitos :) ole hyvä/prosim :) chibaguy: what about the interview idea for tomorrow ? do you have some dv cassette available with the camera so higher quality video can be stored on it ? i think these streamed and recorded on ustream.tv are pretty low resolution I think I have 1 tape, yes. who will be interviewed? decide yourself ;) But I can't stream and tape at the same time. marc is a hot candidate ;) Camera won't do it. yup, i know, it has to be done before/after the streaming but if you would do it we can edit the footage then and produce some report about the tikifest event happening in montreal and promote tiki this way via the TV news ;) but the report must be aired while the fest is still happening or it wouldn't be accepted after then most probably so please decide until tomorrow if you'd like to try it to spread the word this way Hmm, so we need to tape and then how do we send the tape, I wonder... you can get it to pc via the dv cable (firewire) usually if you have it... it stores as AVI format (AVI DV) we could then download it from somewhere where you put it no firewire on this laptop maybe someone else has ah, that's required, yes... and the cable is attached with the camera equipment ? there's couple of software to capture it from the camcorder (dvgrab on linux (Kino has nice GUI to it) or there's for sure some free app for Win platform too) tikiwiki: 03luciash * r17012 10/branches/3.0/db/tiki-db.php: [ENH] add the logo I think feature_sitetitle in lib/setup/prefs.php is the big-text title that's set in Look and Feel. hmm, btw, why we don't automatically redirect to tiki-install.php when local.php not found ? why the extra step "Tiki cannot find your db/local.php file." ? chibaguy: that's correct chibaguy: line 949 is siteTitle ok. What do y and n mean in this prefs file? Do they mean default settings? yes, y = enabled, n = disabled If so, I don't know why 'feature_sitetitle' => 'y' , because this probably shouldn't be on by default, since it depends on admin adding the text, right? I've been using Avidemux to convert video formats. It has editing abilities also. If you start with high res video you can produce clips in various formats. chibaguy: sounds right What prefs should be listed in this file? feature_sitesubtitle isn't mentioned at all... SEWilco2: yup, but first we need to get the video down off the camcorder ;) chibaguy: no idea, i think all defaults should be there but i have no idea how it works when populating db for the first time I would think only necessary ones would have to be listed there (minimal set). Others can be added to the db as needed, seems like. Or whatever should be default values. ask the experts around you ;) hey, good idea :-) :D :D :D Does lib/setup/prefs.php only get called at installation, and then has no influence? i suggest to rename it to prevent confusion to browser_sitetitle yeah, marc had similar idea :-) I'll try that and see tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r17013 10/branches/3.0/doc/devtools/release.php: [ENH] release script: add a syntax check of PHP files and stop the release process if a parsing error has been found. tikiwiki: 03campbe13 * r17014 10/branches/3.0/ (tiki-install.php tiki-setup.php): [Fix] check for php vers in setup so, what is preferred ? having change password enforced for admin after last step of install or like it is now... showing the homepage logged off and suggesting to login as admin with password admin ? how is it with the lib/setup/prefs.php then ? is it used only by installer or not ? chibaguy: r u fixing the sitetitle ? where's 'Users can change language' now ? yes, luciash, or so I intend. tikiwiki: 03luciash * r17015 10/branches/3.0/tiki-admin_include_login.php: [FIX] login prefs: change_theme is done on look and feel now - remove from here to prevent unwanted toggling off after applying login changes back wb sylvieg i think rick forgot to put the users can change language somewhere while removing it from login prefs tpl for the problem of password not demanded in case 'Do nothing and enter Tiki' I do not understand why it is going to tiki-index.php and tiki-change_password sylvieg: and i don't understand why on the default hompeage it is written then 1. login as admin with password admin when it was change enforced before ;) chibaguy: workin on 3:0 branch ? yes if you're in look and feel, can you look at restrict themes available ? seems to not be set after applying dev is on trunk now - as one can see, when looking at the site :P ah, ok, should go to 3.0 - ok, once again... ;) amette: kewl, dogfooding' rocks ! ROFL ;) damn, i have set "Site title" and "Site subtitle" and now i have not-so-nice "Jump to content" bock floating over the logo :-p or wth, is it a feature ? *g* away again - need to do some polynomial tutoring heh sounds weird sylvieg jump to content is normally offscreen due to negative left margin (inline css) now gary wanna break his keyboard ;) I if can make a suggestion, can we put the mike on the dev table, the keyboard sound is loud! ;-) no, just walk away from it. ;-) yep, dunno why it appeared here for a little while MartinComeau, the keyboard sound is too loud? mic is on the dev table, just gary is too close or he has some other mic on his laptop which records the tapping on his keyboard :-) Is the sounds capture coming from the usb mic or from the camcorder mic? from the mic now in closeup (connected with usb) this macbookpro have a keyboard hard time ;-) ah ok, now dev is on 3.0 amette: yay luciash: you had a look at the site? ;) nope, because not found :-p http://dev.tikiwiki.org/FilteringBestPractices ok, index works but wth ? ;) amette: ah, you have to recompile php on your gentoo again it seems :-p nope, that is done already luciash: what do you see? An error occured in a database query! I get a white page with an error message in konq - in FF it works... :O ok, that other people get here, too... so that's not too bad LOL yeah ;) i'm logged in, that's maybe why you see something different but it looks working fine on my localhost, bueheh :) tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r17016 10/trunk/ (7 files in 4 dirs): {MRG] from 3.0 r17009:17015 amette: cache cleared ? woot, so what was it ? i didn't hear what nyloth suggested to fix it... it is not possible to just manually run the tiki2.0to3.0.sql script you should run doc/devtools/sqlupgrade.sh which runs a php script i do it via installer always installer is fine which seemed to work but i didn't do it on big site like dev... thanks for the hint but people who are scripting their own process will need the shell approach ah, if installer upgrade is fine then i'll stick with it :) but i think some changes didn't go through e.g. wasn't the KEYWORDS module titled KEYWORDS before ? (now is MENU) left menu has *3rules instead of first list item "Categorize HomePage in" module drop-down overflows thinking about doing another ustream with me - to participate - not sure I will be able to do it tomorrow - weather will be nasty amette: please enable the SEFURLs (apache rewrite rules), otherwise it looks nice this feature with plugin is great luciash: thanks - just ran the script what is a mess is to have to have the edit plugin in aview page edit button - and the plugin 'protection' need an email stuff - nobody knows it is blocked