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   marclaporte: sylvieg : :-)
   MasterCJ: so i'm having trouble getting the registration email part of tikiwiki working and in the process of modding it to use phpmailer, i noticed it has built in smtp support, but i can't seem to find any documentation on it. is it an unsupported feature or does it go by another name or anything?
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   sylvieg: yep
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   MasterCJ: ...yes?
   <br> anything further? or was that not directed at me?
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   marclaporte: <u>MasterCJ</u>: : please standdby
   <br> http://dev.tikiwiki.org/wish1711
   MasterCJ: standing by cap'n
   <br> yep i found that before
   <br> still doesn't really give much insight into how to wrangle it into working
   <br> just says "you know, it's hard to config this."
   marclaporte: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/How+to+get+commit+access
   <br> well, it needs to be coded
   <br> and to add an interface in the admin panel
   MasterCJ: ah, so it's nonexistant right now?
   marclaporte: correct
   MasterCJ: i just saw all the smtp stuff in htmlMimeMail.php
   marclaporte: which is why it's on the wishlist
   MasterCJ: and it got me excited
   marclaporte: it's supported by the class, but not being used by Tiki
   MasterCJ: ah
   marclaporte: it's a very annoying problem
   <br> Do you PHP?
   MasterCJ: yeah
   <br> it's my job
   marclaporte: Can you fix and add to main Tiki code base?
   MasterCJ: :(
   <br> maybe
   <br> i'd never seen tiki until yesterday though
   <br> so... yeah
   marclaporte: That would be __very__ appreciated
   <br> Just 1 million lines of code
   <br> So you should be ok by Monday
   <br> :-)
   MasterCJ: haha yeah
   <br> totally
   marclaporte: if you take the lead, some people will help you find your way around
   MasterCJ: right now i've just hacked phpmailer in
   <br> it seems to be working...
   <br> kinda
   marclaporte: what's missing?
   MasterCJ: well i don't know if it'll always work
   <br> it's working for me right now, but it looks kinda fragile
   <br> the way i've done it
   marclaporte: perhaps you could document on a wiki page, and let community eyeballs sniff out any potential trouble
   CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17254 10/branches/3.0/lib/setup/theme.php: [ENH] Switch from Tikineat to TheNews as the (maybe transitional) default theme, as part of removal of Tikineat from branch 3.0.
   <br> tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17255 10/mods/trunk/themes/tikineat/ (. Readme.txt styles/ templates/ templates/styles/): [NEW] Future home of deposed default theme, Tikineat.
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   -: chibaguy needs to sort out his TortoiseSVN; tikineat move isn't recognized... :-|
   chibaguy: In branch3.0, the CODE plugin is showing "{FLASH(movie=&amp;quot;http:..." quote mark is encoded....:-(
   <br> ...regression bug
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   marclaporte: oups
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   marclaporte: <u>amette</u>: : still htaccess weirdness on doc
   <br> http://doc.tikiwiki.org/3x sends me to index
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   R|SK: Guys, hekp please? I'va accidentally deleted the "Application menu". How can I get it back?
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   R|SK: Anybody?
   chibaguy: Hi R|SK, what Tiki version?
   R|SK: 2.2
   <br> The module is still there, but the menu is deleted
   chibaguy: I wonder if you can run the database update script and get it back.
   <br> afaik, the menu is stored in the database.
   <br> Anyway, there's no risk in running the script again.
   R|SK: Hmm...
   <br> Or I have to recreate it manually.
   chibaguy: That'd be a drag. It's a lot of items.
   R|SK: Indeed.
   <br> How can I run the script again?
   chibaguy: Go to tiki-install.php.
   <br> Actually you could use phpMyAdmin and submit the statement that way too.
   R|SK: Is it nor automatically renamed?
   chibaguy: Hmm, either it has to be renamed back or a new tiki-install.php uploaded, I guess. I've forgotten how 2.2 works already, since working with 3.0.
   R|SK: Neither do I have access to the filesystem nor to the Database.
   chibaguy: You can't ftp files to the site?
   R|SK: Not yet
   <br> It's a cororate server.
   chibaguy: I don't think there's an admin method to get the menu back. Every solution requires either ftp or database access, I think.
   R|SK: I have a second installation of tiki here, and tried to export the menu there and to reimport it to the main installation but I gett an error.
   <br> You can only use optionId = 0 to create a new option or optionId equal an id that already belongs to the menu to update it.
   <br> That's the error message.
   chibaguy: How did you export it?
   R|SK: With the option "Export CSV data" on the menu page.
   luciash: polom polom
   R|SK: Polom back luciash.
   chibaguy: I don't see that option...
   <br> polom luciash
   R|SK: Tiki-admin_menu_options.php -&gt; scroll to the end of the page.
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   <br> chibaguy remembers to scroll the page....
   luciash: R|SK: you have to open the CSV file in OpenOffice
   R|SK: And then?
   luciash: R|SK: or some text editor and change all in the column optionId to 0
   <br> then it will work
   R|SK: I'll give it a tr&lt;
   <br> *try
   luciash: sure, it works like that :)
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   mycomputer: hello everyone
   luciash: R|SK: we're enhancing the menus admin for 3.0 now so i will give it better instruction there
   <br> hi mycomputer
   R|SK: <u>Luciash</u>: Ok, i set all items in the optioID to 0. Let's see if you are right.
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   mycomputer: hi luciash, how are you?
   luciash: :D
   R|SK: <u>Luciash</u>: "An error occured in a database query!"
   <br> :(
   luciash: hi mycomputer, i'm fine and you ? is all the components running fine ?
   R|SK: Is it possible, that it conflicts, with the options I've manually reestablished?
   luciash: R|SK: might be buggy on 2.2 :-/ i'm sure it works in 3.0
   R|SK: :'(
   mycomputer: I'm fine thanks. For the moment no problem. I am becoming a real tikiwiki fanboy :)
   luciash: R|SK: ah, yes, you have to create new empty menu or you have to set the column (last) i think to 'y' to allow overwrite what you already set
   R|SK: I'll create a new menu and try again then.
   luciash: R|SK: so no bug but it tries to overwrite same items which fails
   R|SK: Yeah! It seems to work! :)
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   luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: are you subscribed to tw-artwork ?
   R|SK: And here we go again! :)
   <br> Thank you very much guys. Great support here. *THUMBS UP*
   -: chibaguy glad luciash showed up....:-)
   luciash: heheh
   chibaguy: I didn't subscribe yet, luciash.
   <br> but will
   luciash: i hope to drag patrick there too
   <br> at least having him there when he's not interested in devel that much
   <br> and visual media is more for him when he has trouble to communicate in english still ;)
   chibaguy: good idea
   luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: replied the table suggestion, hoping it will be optional
   <br> <u>mycomputer</u>: always nice to have fans :) without fans, no joy ;)
   mycomputer: :)
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   luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: mods are only trunk ?
   chibaguy: yes, no branches
   luciash: mods/trunk/themes ?
   chibaguy: yep
   luciash: ok, so it works ok only with trunk ?
   chibaguy: well, that depends on what you mean by "works with", I guess.
   <br> afaik, people just use mods as a general repository. There's no correlation with trunk or branches of Tiki's main code.
   luciash: i want to checkout, can i use them with 3.0 or 2.2 ?
   chibaguy: That depends. For things like avatars, no problem. But for themes and other things, there could be incompatibilities.
   luciash: i see
   chibaguy: I don't really know a good strategy for themes. I'll just label the 3.0 versions like Kubrick_for_3.0 or something.
   luciash: when o do svn co mods/trunk/themes, does it create mods dir ? or only themes dir ?
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   chibaguy: Heh, well I use TortoiseSVN, which is a gui that adds contextual menus to my file manager.
   luciash: why not to put it in mods/3.0/themes ? or is it possible to create branch mods/branches/3.0/ ?
   <br> ah :)
   chibaguy: I don't know enough about svn.
   luciash: i'll try and i can always move it with SVN, so no problem ;)
   chibaguy: Maybe nyloth has a good answer for that.
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   R|SK: So guys, another question for you: I've enabled the plugin Snarf, to embed external content into a wiki page.
   <br> However there seemd to be the same security issue as when implementing an iframe.
   <br> The code is changed from {SNARF(url=&gt;http://www.livejournal.co... to {SNARF(ur&lt;x&gt;l=&gt;http://www.livejournal.co...
   luciash: R|SK: that's easy to workaround
   R|SK: The same thing happens to &lt;iframe&gt;
   luciash: R|SK: {SNARF(u%72l=&gt;http://www.livejournal.co
   R|SK: ok
   -: luciash is not sure %72 is the correct encoding for "r" :)
   R|SK: Gnaaaaa! "You need php-curl for the SNARF plugin!" :-/
   luciash: yup yup
   <br> but you can use the iframe if not public access server or iframe in a module or create own plugin ;)
   R|SK: I need to contact our admin... :-|
   <br> How can I use the iframe?
   <br> The wiki is only used in our intranet.
   luciash: {IFRAME(u%72l=&gt;... ?
   <br> or is there different problem with &lt;x&gt; sanitization ??
   R|SK: No, seems to be the same
   <br> Perhaps you remember, that we have talked about it recently.
   luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: it checks out only the themes/ dir ;)
   <br> creates only the last dir in the path
   R|SK: I'm trying to implement rudimentary content of our bugtracker "Mantis" into our wiki.
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   R|SK: Hrrr... isn't there any way to disable the security setting preventing the usgae of iframe and url?
   chibaguy: Nope.
   R|SK: OS i have to ask why?
   luciash: i see, it sanitizes iframe tag itself... only way to use iframe in your case is creating the custom module on Admin &gt; Modules and include it using {MODULE(module=my_module) /}
   R|SK: As lot of of plugins and even the Dynamic content system make use of it, this doesn't make sense to me.
   <br> <u>Luciash</u>: that's a bad workaround, but it seems to me that I've no other chance.
   luciash: R|SK: it doesn't make sense to us too, but someone implemented it this way and nobody got into it  to fix it yet in these areas...
   R|SK: k
   chibaguy: There's an iframe plugin in trunk that can be used in 2.2, right?
   R|SK: I only know, that this plugin will be available in tiki 3.0
   luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: the problem is that the IFRAME plugin output gets sanitized too i guess
   chibaguy: Hmm, I thought I tested it and it worked ok.
   R|SK: Great.
   chibaguy: Also, it's available; it just needs to be downloaded and installed.
   R|SK: k
   <br> Is there any donwload link or do I need to get it from the repository?
   chibaguy: repository
   luciash: nope, sorry, i mean not the output but the plugin name
   <br> uh ? i thought R|SK already uses that plugin and says it doesn't work ?
   <br> please, don't confuse me :)
   R|SK: I used the snarf Plugin which uses "url". I tried DCS which should make use of &lt;iframe&gt;.
   <br> Both with negative results.
   luciash: R|SK: ok, so you haven't tried the IFRAME plugin yet ?
   R|SK: Correct
   chibaguy: http://zukakakina.com/IFRAME_plugin_test -- last save on November 23, 2008
   <br> just saved it again, no problem with sanitation.
   <br> Tiki 2.2
   luciash: R|SK: try the plugin then please, it will save you trouble
   <br> <u>chibaguy</u>: thx for testing
   R|SK: Can someone give me a direct download link?
   <br> The ftp-access to my home installation (where I already have tiki 3 beta 1 installed) is blocked by our proxy and I don't finde the plugin on the repo.
   luciash: R|SK: isn't it in your Tiki in the lib/wikiplugins-dist folder ?
   chibaguy: or http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_iframe.php?revision=14598
   R|SK: Maybe. I have to get access to our server from our admin first.
   <br> brb
   chibaguy: Dang, every time I try moving tikineat files from 3.0 to mods (using TortoiseSVN), they lose their versioning info.
   <br> This worked before (olive theme).
   luciash: hmm, no idea
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   luciash: dang, can't enable article submissions :-(
   <br> everybody go bugfixing now ! :-p
   <br> it's becoming serious when every action i try means one new bug found in 3.0 :-/
   chibaguy: haven't people been using trunk? It's surprising to see so many new bugs since branch 3.0 was made.
   <br> Or did code change a lot recently?
   CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17256 10/mods/trunk/themes/tikineat/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [SVN] Tikineat moved from branch 3.0.
   <br> tikiwiki: 03luciash * r17257 10/mods/trunk/themes/README: updated README
   luciash: we need code watchers ;) or the QA team reviewing code changes and making sure all changes were propagated carefully
   <br> ok, i'm sorry, the submissions chkbox works, i entered on another form :-p it's usability mismatch
   <br> *g*
   chibaguy: :-)
   <br> user error is better than a bug ;-)
   CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17258 10/branches/3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [SVN] Tikineat moved from branch 3.0.
   chibaguy: luciash, I'm curious about your changing TikiWiki to Tiki in the readme, etc. Was there a decision about the name?
   luciash: nope, i'm just using the short form to save some space and not to repeat TikiWiki all the time ;)
   <br> ppl seem not to be interested in the name change discussion much
   chibaguy: I'd feel better if there was some sort of agreement on that.
   <br> For instance, the install page has "Tiki 3.0" at the top and "TikiWIki" on the right side, like two versions of the logo are presented because we couldn't decide.
   <br> I watched people see the page and go "what's this??"
   luciash: it's weird to me too to see the older version of the logo there too
   <br> i'd be happy if people agreed on something but it seems they're really not interested to have this figutred out :-/
   chibaguy: There's no consensus on what the logo should be. I think this should be asked again in the dev mail list.
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   luciash: it would be great to keep TikiWiki CMS/Groupware as the "project name" and use only the short form "Tiki" for the application release name imho
   chibaguy: Me too, really.
   <br> I mean I think so too.
   luciash: thanks if you put this up on the dev list again
   chibaguy: ok
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   mycomputer: There is something that I do not understand : I am looking at the image galleries. I created an image gallery (send images,...). No problem. I see there is also another link in Image galleries, the system gallery : what is it? It says "No records found" ...
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   Beestje: Q : I'm trying to export data from a tracker in tw 2.1 and 2.2, and it seems that all i get is a csv file containing the xml / html output of the page and not the tracker data. Am i doing something wrong or is this a known issue?
   chibaguy: mycomputer, see http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Image+Gallery+User&amp;bl=y#The_System_Gallery
   mycomputer: thanks chibaguy
   <br> hmm : it does not really explain how the system galleries work
   <br> "If enabled from the admin screen, Tiki can capture images referenced from other sites or URLs, storing them in its database, or in a folder on your webserver. Tiki displays those images in a special gallery called the "System Gallery" " That what I did but the image is not listed in gallery system
   chibaguy: Hm, I don't know then.
   <br> You have "cache external images" turned on, on the admin wiki page?
   Beestje: trying to export the CSV data from a tracker, I get the following error message : http://pastebin.com/m6a566fc8
   chibaguy: mycomputer, sorry, the checkbox for caching external images is on tiki-admin.php?page=general.
   Beestje: when I run the SQL command manually from the DB, I do get the proper results
   chibaguy: In a quickie test, I linked to an external site and no images show up in the system gallery for me, either (using branch 3.0). More testing needed, probably, but not a huge loss if it doesn't work IMHO.
   mycomputer: <u>chibaguy</u>: which option exactly? I don't see it
   chibaguy: Find in page "Use cache for external images" on tiki-admin.php?page=general
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   mycomputer: ok chibagay : I will try it in one hour : I have to leave now :)
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   sylvieg: MasterCJ is no more here - but we spoke about using the zend library replace the mailer lib
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   CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17259 10/branches/3.0/tiki-admin_include_look.php: [KIL] Removed rendundant pref check (must have been a caching/init issue which now *seems* to be fixed)
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   ricks99: <u>admin</u>: backlinks missin on dev.tw.o
   sylvieg: ping amette
   amette: pong
   sylvieg: :-)
   amette: :)
   sylvieg: if you can svn up and run the upgrade script
   amette: ah, backlinks... hmmm.... I ran the db-upgrade yesterday..
   <br> ah, dev, not doc - alright
   ricks99: ty amettte
   sylvieg: doc is fine now - thanks
   amette: np, you're welcome :)
   <br> ok, good to hear!
   mycomputer: chibaguy : I just tried but still the same problem ... the uploaded image is not in system gallery
   CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17260 10/branches/3.0/templates/ (3 files): [FIX] Tab content divs defaulting to display:none when JavScript disabled (also tested with JS on and "feature_tabs" on and off - seems ok)
   amette: ok, dev is up
   CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17261 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-admin-include-look.tpl: [FIX] Button to change theme menu if JS disabled
   ricks99: perfect. tx ammette
   amette: ok, cool, yw ricks99 :)
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   alain_desilets: I need to update www.wiki-translation.com to use 3.0 or the latest version of trunk.
   <br> Never done that before.
   <br> Can someone hold my hand while I do it?
   <br> Thx.
   ricks99: not too difficult...
   <br> backup first
   alain_desilets: Hi Rick,
   <br> You are my knight in shiny armour again ;-).
   <br> How do I do a backupÉ
   ricks99: easiest way is via phpmyadmin
   alain_desilets: I can run that through the web right?
   <br> Will I need putty at any point?
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   ricks99: no putty
   <br> you can access phpmyadmin via web browser
   <br> <u>doc</u>: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Backup&amp;bl=y#A._Backing_up_through_Web_interface_Phpmyadmin_
   alain_desilets: When I go to: http://www.wiki-translation.com/phpmyadmin
   luciash: <u>alain_desilets</u>: you can use ssh via putty and use this command too: mysqldump --quote-names -c --opt -u your_db_username -p your_dbname &gt; ~/last-backup.sql
   alain_desilets: Page cannot be found (404)
   ricks99: @alain: may need to go through your host's cpanel
   luciash: <u>alain_desilets</u>: it will save the mysql dump sql file to home dir
   ricks99: *rick has never used putty. sorry
   alain_desilets: how do i get the cpanel again?
   ricks99: domain/cpanel ?
   luciash: <u>alain_desilets</u>: cpanel is third party application, same for phpmyadmin
   ricks99: http://www.wiki-translation.com/cpanel looks like it works
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   alain_desilets: Crap. won't accept the user and pwd I have. I'll have to ask Marc to reset it.
   mycomputer: Is there some documentation how to migrate tikiwiki from a server to another server?
   ricks99: @mycomputer: pls see faqs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_faq.php?faqId=4
   marclaporte: <u>mycomputer</u>: I have a private email about that
   <br> email me and I will forward to you
   <br> (I asked the person to put on wiki page but they sent to me by email anyway)
   ricks99: @marc: can u update faq?
   marclaporte: not today
   <br> just got back from a month-long trip, 4 events and Tiki 3.0 Beta
   <br> have back-2-back meetings
   mycomputer: marclaporte : what is your email ? I am not very good in english : do you propose me to send to some documentation?
   marclaporte: <u>mycomputer</u>: : yesy
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   mycomputer: marclaporte : how can I join you?
   luciash: it is bad the wiki cache chaches the section edit icons and wiki plugins edit icons
   mycomputer: I found it :)
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   idle-: I've connected a wiki to an active directory. There does tiki store the passwords? if a user changes his password, the old password is still functional, but not the new one.
   <br> so i have to delete the user, let him register new and after that it works with the new password?
   mycomputer: marclaporte : you have mail :) (I wrote you in french)
   luciash: <u>amette</u>: hi bro, seems some syntax error at your blog post ;)
   <br> <u>amette</u>: nice you blogged it anyway :)
   <br> s/anyway/by the way :)
   CIA-71: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17262 10/branches/3.0/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [FIX]users: an admin junior can not see other groups than the one he is in + he can not unassign group he is not in too
   amette: <u>luciash</u>: thanks, didn't notice that - looked good yesterday - fixed it now :)
   sylvieg: idle-: change password do not affect ldap - strnage you should not see this option..
   amette: <u>luciash</u>: uargh... apparantly tiki stripped half of my blog post because of that... ;(
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   idle-: <u>sylvieg</u>: I mean something different. if the ad password is changed, the user can login with his old ad password via pear-auth/ldap. but it should be the new one from active directory.
   sylvieg: do you have optionlike create user if not in tw or auth on?
   idle-: <u>sylvieg</u>: yes create user if not in tw is on.
   <br> <u>sylvieg</u>: in auth is off
   sylvieg: so you are sure that the problem with a password is not because this user was created in tw?
   idle-: I am confused now - doesn't the user has to be created to assign him to groups etc...
   <br> ?
   sylvieg: it is created automatically from ldap
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   sylvieg: idle-: reading the code .... seems you are right - I do not have a ldap playground right now :-(
   idle-: <u>sylvieg</u>: hm perhaps I will do some further testing.
   sylvieg: idle-: it is in lib/userlib - validate_user - there is a test ($userTiki &amp;&amp; !$userAuthPresent) { // create an account with pass...
   <br> no... I am worng
   <br> no sorry - it should work...
   idle-: hm i think it is fixed: $result = $this-&gt;create_user_auth($user, $pass);
   <br> so the user is created with the pass, and if the password has changed, it is not recognized.
   <br> as I understand from this quick look, there is a missing part, which checks if the password has changed or something like this,
   <br> so I wonder if all ldap users don't change their passwords from time to time  ;)
   <br> ok i am not alone in the dark ;) http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=31451&amp;topics_offset=2&amp;topics_sort_mode=lastPost_desc&amp;forumId=17
   sylvieg: idle-: no because there is a validate_user_auth() -&gt; PASSWORD_INCORRECT -&gt; userAuthPresent and you go out = true
   amette: <u>luciash</u>: rewrote the remaining part of my blog post.. :-/
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   luciash: re
   <br> okay, seems now IE6 users cannot reach preferences when they click on Admin it yells a JS error and doesn't expand the admin menu :-/
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   Caarrie: update them to FF ;) or opera
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   luciash: <u>Caarrie</u>: ok, how do i do it ? ;)
   Caarrie: pray?
   -: luciash goes to pray
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   lifestream: Hello
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   lifestream: I am having a problem with my wiki+ Forum and seeking advice.
   <br> I have no idea what happened to my forums one minute they were working fine the next all attempts to post lead to a blank screen. tiki-view_forum.php is the page that loads when a post attempt is made.
   <br> !help
   Tikiwiki|bot: You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .
   lifestream: !help forums
   Tikiwiki|bot: You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .
   ricks99: what is ur tiki version?
   lifestream: 3
   ricks99: do u have enough php memory?
   lifestream: Yea
   Caarrie: how much exactly?
   ricks99: 32M min
   lifestream: you can visit the forums here http://thelifestream.info/tiki-forums.php
   Caarrie: <u>lifestream</u>: that does not tell us exactly how much php memory you have ;)
   lifestream: I am unable to edit existing forums and some forums show code instead.
   <br> 90mb
   ricks99: using ajax?
   lifestream: no
   ricks99: not sure then :(
   <br> looks like your forum *does* have some posts
   lifestream: they were the ones I posted before
   ricks99: and now suddently u cannot post
   lifestream: yes
   ricks99: not sure. can't image what would change by itself?
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   lifestream: may have been in the update
   <br> I will fiddle around until it works again, maybe use ajax
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   MatWho: hi all in branches/3.0 does GroupWatch work  I have enabled the feature but I dont get the eys in the wiki pages
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   MatWho: hi jonny
   jonnyb__: greetings
   <br> why am i jonnyb__ now? (i wonder)
   MatWho: hi I have -2 hrs to get my VicWiky working last problem can get groupwatch on do you know what to do I have enabled the feature
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   jonnyb__: hmm - good point - it's "just appeared" for me in the past - i'll do a quick search...
   MatWho: it did for me but now it does not - it is a massive pain.
   jonnyb__: there's a checkbox in admin/features/users - i'll try it
   ricks99: do u mean "group alert"?
   MatWho: I just want every one to get an email in a group when a wiki page is changed
   jonnyb__: it makes the second "eye" icon appear, but nothing happens - seems to be broken, i'll investigate
   MatWho: I dont get the second eye, it all worked fine on trunk - I am now ruined :(
   ricks99: works for me
   MatWho: what did you do?
   ricks99: click the second eye and i get a popup
   <br> with my groups.
   MatWho: i dont get the 2nd eye
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   ricks99: need to enable watch &amp; group watch
   MatWho: do you mean user watch
   <br> s/user watch/user watches/
   ricks99: <u>Admin</u>: Features, user tab
   <br> enable "user watches" and "group watches"
   jonnyb__: feature_group_watches is on admin/features/users
   MatWho: yes both are on
   jonnyb__: then you should get the eye...
   <br> however you need to enable mootools for it to actually work (as it secretly depends on it)
   MatWho: I need 2 eyes dont I
   jonnyb__: yy
   MatWho: only get one
   jonnyb__: skype?
   MatWho: ok in 3 mins
   ricks99: jonnyb is right... needs mootools
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   MatWho: I have mootools on
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   jonnyb__: it also requires tiki_p_admin_users (or tiki_p_admin) for the 2nd eye to appear
   <br> not sure why
   MatWho: <u>marclaporte</u>: what do you mean
   -: sylvieg plan to change the interface of group watch - I would like a special apge not a drop-down with all the groups - because I do not need the query - getr_group each time
   jonnyb__: sounds good sylvieg - meanwhile i'll make it work with jquery
   sylvieg: does the ajax autosave need ajax feature to work?
   ricks99: think so
   sylvieg: has somebody the ajax_autosave working with fck?
   <br> Do you see a special icon in fck toobar for autosave purpose?
   <br> I thought Chibaguy moved tikineat _ I still have the .css ....
   MatWho: <u>sylvieg</u>: +1
   jonnyb__: i gave in with autosave - it messes up page content (for me) when previewing, in both wysiwyg and wiki - had a go at fixing it but no joy, so i made it optional
   sylvieg: :-(
   <br> find out the tikineat ... it was not deleted in  my local trunk
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   ricks99: what is the "file author" field for (admin: file gallery)?
   <br> what does "for not registered author" mean?
   sylvieg: perhaps it is ... ask a name if anonymous upload file?
   ricks99: ok. tx
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   SEWilco2: Maybe SVNTips references to 2.0 should be switched to 3.0.
   <br> Hmm... except for the "stable" example.
   -: luciash wonders why the groupwatch need to be mootools dependent :-/
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   SEWilco2: <u>luciash</u>: Because cows are herd animals?  :-)
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   luciash: <u>SEWilco2</u>: *g* :)
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   SEWilco2: My code minion has created an imagegal -&gt; filegal duplication tool.  We're testing on 2.2, will transfer to 3.0 soon.
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   jonnyb__: hi SEWilco2 - that's just what we need, great news (hope it works :) )
   <br> bibi
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   sylvieg: ah - a good big bug on permissions...
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   luciash: <u>Caarrie</u>: prays didn't help... ppl still using IE6 :-/
   Caarrie: tell them to update IE7 is not that bad
   luciash: unfortunatelly i'm not god to tell everybody
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   hivemind_: hmm... I'm a clone of myself
   <br> anyway...
   <br> anyone know how to get mail-in to play nice. every time i send a message to it (using PHP mail() on another server) I get a Array print_r spill at the top of the page when it tries loading it (not very informative) but a message sent from outlook (via exchange) works fine
   <br> barring that working, is there a way to drop a page in the wiki from outside via direct database access (e.g modify the entry in wiki_pages but that won't update the history file)
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   SEWilco2: <u>hivemind</u>: I've seen code in mail-in which looks broken so I don't expect it to work without some work.
   <br> <u>hivemind</u>: There is a new experimental DBREPORT plugin in 3.0.  Won't suck DB into wiki page, but can display data.
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   lq_375: Hey everyone I'm having a couple of problems with the new beta someone might be able to help me with.  1. is when I'm trying to save a page the message pops up about navigating away from the page, 2.  Some of the images in my image gallery appear their normal size instead of thumbnailed.  Any ideas?
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   lq_375: I have tried to set the size of images in the admin galleries page and rebuild thumbnails but the pictures don't respect the size