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gjdunga	Evening everyone .. I have a question regarding converting word into articles or wiki with tiki..	[01:50]
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gjdunga	Evening everyone .. I have a question regarding converting word into articles or wiki with tiki.. There is a entry about using open office, but yet I'm having problems finding the instructions to use openoffice to convert to tiki..	[01:51]
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chibaguy	Anybody else missing the right column in IE7 after a recent svn update?	[04:50]
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	Just checked in IE8. RIght column is missing in 'Compatibility view'. Which means when displayed as written for IE7 compatibility. When compatibility view is off, IE8 tries to display sites according to web standards. Then the right column comes back. My guess is maybe something in tiki.tpl revision 17588 broke the display for ie7. (unless other people are still seeing branch3.0 ok in ie7; then maybe something in my install is weird.)	[05:05]
	...or the body property change in stylesheets, if it could affect ie7....	[05:19]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17605 10/branches/3.0/styles/ (7 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Replaced module toggle img float with positioning to prevent box content from moving around on hover (esp. a problem in narrow columns like Strasa's).	[05:26]
chibaguy	btw, luciash, IE8 handles your breaktest page nicely. :-) so we just need to make it through the next decade as ie8+ slowly replace ie7, ie6, ie5.5 etc.....	[05:27]
	tiki.tpl?revision=17546 works normally for IE7. Apparently some change since then breaks the right column display. #c1c2 leaves space for it, but content doesn't show.	[05:39]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17606 10/branches/3.0/templates/ (3 files): [MOD] theme control: deploy remarksbox to this templates	[06:05]
luciash	holom chibaguy: that is some bad news about IE7 chibaguy: unless it does happen only when you have the layoutshadows on the revision 17588 shouldn't affect it	[06:08]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17607 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-stats.tpl: [FIX] tiki-stats: html	[06:13]
luciash	chibaguy: in IE8 can you switch to "compatibility" view manually somehow (i hope it's not forced to it by default) ?	[06:13]
chibaguy	Right, I checked in ie8, and tiki 3 displays fine now when not in compatibility mode .... but switching to compatibility mode makes the right column not show. (compatibility mode means compatible with ie7, apparently) (or compatible with whatever ie7's display model is)	[06:15]
luciash	i understand so 17546 is still ok ou say ? *you i'll investigate what changed after	[06:16]
chibaguy	yes 17546 is ok. I tried commenting out the safari workaround in CSS body selector, thinking maybe ie7 was also affected by it, but that didn't change anything.	[06:18]
luciash	is it on wiki homepage ?	[06:19]
chibaguy	So I guess it's a tiki.tpl change. it = ?	[06:19]
luciash	it happening	[06:19]
chibaguy	yeah, iirc (now I have the older tiki.tpl installed) I believe it was all pages. for sure wiki pages and admin-look.	[06:20]
luciash	ok, i'm trying to avoid it can be other template like information.tpl or something what changed in 17550 (there was no change of tiki.tpl)	[06:22]
chibaguy	ok	[06:23]
luciash	so it must be 17551 :-/ can you try that one with tiki.tpl please ?	[06:23]
chibaguy	ok	[06:23]
luciash	luciash goes to google IE7 +"quirks mode"	[06:24]
chibaguy	Yes, 17551 works ok.	[06:25]
luciash	oh, works ok still ? i would expect that change caused it okay, lets investigate further :)	[06:26]
	chibaguy: if 17579 is ok for you too, then it really must be caused by 17588 or it must be something else than tiki.tpl theme thenews ?	[06:33]
chibaguy	Problem was in every theme I tried (I was doing theme-related stuff when I noticed the problem) I'll check with 17579 17579 is ok - all columns showing	[06:35]
luciash	17588 ? thanks for testing :)	[06:39]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17608 10/branches/3.0/ (7 files): [FIX] remove some useless code following pagination_links deploying	[06:39]
chibaguy	Sorry, 17588 and 17579 are both bad (17579 wasn't being used yet when I said it was ok)	[06:42]
luciash	hum, well... if 17551 works ok and 17579 is bad...	[06:45]
	chibaguy: that is weird, i didn't change anything in the 17579 tiki.tpl except removed the siteidentity check which shouldn't affect it chibaguy: are you sure 17551 is ok ?	[06:50]
chibaguy	I'll check again 17551 is bad hmm	[06:53]
luciash	hmm, so apparently you didn't clear your cache before ;) so it must be what i suspected see http://www.alistapart.com/articles/beyonddoctype (choice of the googled results)	[06:56]
chibaguy	17546 is ok (checking again) yep, 17551 is bad (using tiki-admin_system.php?do=all to check)	[06:58]
luciash	so we have to find way how to force IE7 back to quirks mode where it behaved as intended or fix lite to work well in IE7 standards mode now that's good what we revealed here... now i know lite is failing on strict mode in IE7, thanks gary	[07:01]
chibaguy	sure :-)	[07:05]
luciash	if it really is in strict mode... can you check if IE7 switches to strict mode with 17551 ?	[07:06]
chibaguy	How can I check that? Page source?	[07:06]
luciash	write this please in your IE7 URL bar: javascript:alert(document.compatMode); (when on the tiki page)	[07:07]
chibaguy	"CSS1Compat"	[07:07]
luciash	yes, it means strict (standards) compliant mode	[07:08]
chibaguy	ok	[07:08]
luciash	not quirks i guess you don't see the chinese letters i added on menghao test site in IE7 then, because they're in right column module	[07:08]
chibaguy	That's right. They don't appear.	[07:10]
luciash	fine, in long term i think i'll have to find way to fix *lite css to be compatible with both modes if i (or anyone else) cannot find a fix quickly, we will have to force IE7 to quirks mode in our templates imho what do you think ?	[07:10]
chibaguy	well, we definitely need a quick fix for branch 3.0...	[07:13]
luciash	yes, that's what i mean	[07:13]
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chibaguy	I hope you have an idea on that; I'm pretty clueless... :-) I have to go out for a while, but will be back in a few hours....	[07:15]
luciash	okay, later gary	[07:18]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r17609 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki.tpl: [FIX] IE7 bug workaround: removed html comment especially right before <html> tag because it oddly causes fail for CSS hack selectors starting with *:first-child+html it seems	[10:00]
luciash	chiba_away: try 17609 ;)	[10:00]
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chibaguy	ok, luciash, I'll try it.	[10:05]
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chibaguy	luciash, sorry, still no right column for me.	[10:12]
luciash	on homepage maybe other tpl files which do not use tiki.tpl as base must be updated too	[10:13]
chibaguy	ah..	[10:14]
luciash	chibaguy: it's tested, it must work for you in IE7 too ;)	[10:14]
chibaguy	was on cache-clearing page.....	[10:14]
luciash	hmm, cache clearing page uses something else than tiki.tpl ?	[10:14]
chibaguy	hmm, homepage doesn't have a right col either. ok, luciash, right column is showing now. maybe another clearing was needed. :-)	[10:15]
luciash	pfff :) i always do ctrl + refresh just in case ;)	[10:20]
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Yoni	おはようございます Dobré ráno ouf... :)	[10:36]
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Yoni	i want to attribute an object (tracker) to a group. I have 4 groups already and i can't add one more... is there a limit ?	[10:40]
chibaguy	おはよう, Yoni :-)	[10:41]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17610 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-admin_forums.tpl: [MOD] code indenting - no changes	[11:07]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r17611 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-site_header.tpl: [FIX] site ads: do not duplicate ads in site header	[11:41]
sylvieg	{debug} is not working in 3.0 :-(	[11:46]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17612 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki/renderlib.php: php error	[11:48]
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sylvieg	Yoni: what do you mean by attribute an object to a group? assign perm?	[11:58]
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Yoni	hi Sylvie yes	[12:47]
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chibaguy	luciash, are you around? Now Coelesce's center-column stretches across the left column, and there's a big horizontal scrollbar. ...in IE7. Also strasa has a wide right margin and strange background coloring -- these can probably be fixed in css tho. Funny how one adjustment for IE7 causes other breaks. what a pile of sh*t, that browser.	[12:55]
luciash	chibaguy: uh uh, i will look at them :-p	[12:58]
chibaguy	maybe an incomplete svn-up for me? I only updated tiki.tpl in the last few hours.	[12:59]
luciash	was that there before or after the IE7 workaround ? ah, doesn't it use custom tiki.tpl, right ?	[12:59]
chibaguy	I updated the tiki.tpl 17609 to test, but not other files	[13:00]
luciash	i just removed the html comment as you can see	[13:00]
chibaguy	these themes use the default tiki.tpl	[13:00]
luciash	nothing else ok	[13:00]
chibaguy	Well, I'll check what's going on. Other themes don't show any problems...	[13:01]
luciash	cool i have also one little problem now in IE7 with menghao test site	[13:01]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17614 10/branches/3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]menu: fix maxRecords	[13:05]
sylvieg	Can somebody check if the pagination in tiki-admin_menu_options.php is broken when ajax is on? the second page is filled with 2 strange lines	[13:07]
luciash	sylvieg: hold on click on arrow or pagination number ?	[13:09]
sylvieg	both aah ah on a fresh install it is ok ... but I have 2 sites where it is not working :-(	[13:11]
luciash	i don't see any strange lines	[13:11]
sylvieg	thx luciash	[13:12]
luciash	how much ajax is experimental ? np	[13:12]
sylvieg	so I need to find what is specific to the 2 sites... they overwrite the smarty variable channels... ajax is working pretty well except for this problem..	[13:13]
luciash	:) maybe it could be moved from experimental to UI enhancements then ? chibaguy: cssmenu vertical doesn't work well :-(	[13:13]
chibaguy	Hm, it used to. was indistinguishable from phplm. in some themes.	[13:18]
luciash	chibaguy: coelesce works perfect in ie7/vista	[13:19]
Yoni	i have a bunch of test machines here (vista xp, ie7, ff) you need some tests on browser ?	[13:19]
luciash	chibaguy: well, except horizontal scrollbar appears and pagination is little bit broken :-p	[13:19]
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chibaguy	css vert menu has some problems in some themes in ie7; I need to check again	[13:21]
luciash	chibaguy: feb12 looks perfect in IE7 chibaguy: i'll try to fix strasa background for IE7, i think i know what it is Yoni: thanks, can you check in IE8 ? chibaguy: it has problems in FF too	[13:22]
chibaguy	how about coelesce? No problem? For me right now, wiki pages have a problem - the center column background goes across to the left to the left window border, and the scrollbar goes wide to the right.	[13:23]
Yoni	well i will download it :)	[13:23]
luciash	chibaguy: also i'd like to know why the shadow effect of superfish is not applied... do we start from scratch with css of superfish ? it works perfect on their demo site ;)	[13:24]
chibaguy	FF has problems with css vert menu in which themes, luciash?	[13:25]
luciash	chibaguy: i don't see any weird background in coelesce, i can only confirm the horizontal scrollbar chibaguy: css vert menu in thenews	[13:25]
chibaguy	hmm, ok. I'll check my file versions, etc.	[13:26]
Yoni	give me the url	[13:26]
luciash	chibaguy: oh, maybe it's on my side, now i noticed with svn status that my lib/csslib.php is modified chibaguy: sorry for false alarm chibaguy: probably i was trying to fix the shadow and broke other stuff ;)	[13:27]
chibaguy	ah, ok. luciash, about superfish and shadow, etc., we had css for the menus to function before, of course, so superfish works on top of that. I'm wondering now what the best course is. I tried using the superfish css but it didn't seem to work without jquery on. I mean the css from the superfish download zip. ...using it as our css/cssmenus.css but with class names changed to fit our menu construction.	[13:29]
luciash	ah, suckerfish menus should work with JS off, only pure CSS, right ? so superfish when jquery goes off should go off too and degrade to suckerfish, right ?	[13:32]
chibaguy	yes, that's right. which is what happens now.	[13:32]
luciash	are our cssmenus pure suckerfish or modified ?	[13:33]
chibaguy	pretty much pure, but with a little js to enable them for ie6. which is standard procedure afaik. the css at the superfish demo is rather different, though.	[13:33]
Yoni	Lu what is the url of the website you want me to check	[13:35]
luciash	http://test.ground.cz/tiki/3.0 chibaguy: i talked bullshit, lib/csslib.php is not for cssmenus but for edit css feature so it couldn't affect cssmenus rendering g	[13:38]
Yoni	k	[13:41]
chibaguy	:-)	[13:42]
luciash	chibaguy: so i succesfully wiped out my enhancements to it by rm and svn up, kewl :-)	[13:42]
chibaguy	well, I plan to go through the css menus in each theme and browser (too many interruptions today). I know there are some problems but mainly I think they're working pretty well.	[13:43]
Yoni	Yoni has to wait 600mb upload	[13:43]
luciash	so the problem persists, my left vertical cssmenu expands under main col in thenews	[13:43]
chibaguy	And with jquery/superfish, the tiki suckerfish menus' movement is very nice imo. that's in ff?	[13:44]
luciash	chibaguy: yep	[13:45]
chibaguy	Hmm, it expands on top, in mine. I'll check if I forgot to commit something, or what.... You can try http://zukakakina.com/tw3/	[13:46]
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luciash	chibaguy: oh yes, they look much better on yours	[13:47]
chibaguy	Hmm again....	[13:47]
luciash	looks like unstyled on mine luciash goes to check his transition css preferences :-p they're set on the lates, hmm, that's weird *latest	[13:48]
chibaguy	Well, the main layout for the menus is css/cssmenus.css, and some theme-specific styling from thenews.css	[13:50]
luciash	chibaguy: http://test.ground.cz/tiki/3.0 code i use for the module: {menu id=43 css=y type=vert} is it ok ? (it's the "Main Menu")	[13:51]
chibaguy	Your css menu module needs overflow=y parameter.	[13:53]
luciash	or what is the correct way to display vertical cssmenu ?	[13:53]
chibaguy	I believe that's the trouble.	[13:53]
luciash	aah, that should be documented better in the modules admin interface	[13:54]
chibaguy	Yep, I forgot about that....	[13:54]
luciash	why is that needed and not implemented directly in CSS ? ah, i understand	[13:55]
chibaguy	It could be. I couldn't find where the menu code is put together. Actually if the div.box of the css menu module is given a class=cssmenu, then we could do it through css.	[13:56]
luciash	because in themes .box-data is set to overflow: visible smetimes *sometimes	[13:56]
chibaguy	Yeah, actually I kind of kludged the visibility for cssmenus in modules. It should be done more elegantly.	[13:57]
luciash	heh now i have same behaviour as on zukakakina on my test ground ;)	[13:57]
chibaguy	ok!	[13:58]
luciash	but your code isn't latest there, the double arrows are still visible ;)	[13:59]
chibaguy	I was wondering about that....	[13:59]
Yoni	Yoni like what he see... but strasa.css is broken on ie7	[14:00]
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luciash	heheh, my wife laughs and asks what "zukakakina" means :) she said "tikiwiki" sounds serious compared to that ;)	[14:01]
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chibaguy	Heh, my daughter made up that word when she was about 4.	[14:03]
luciash	aah :)	[14:04]
chibaguy	Sat on an office chair backwards and cruised around the room on it. That was her name for the chair.	[14:04]
luciash	nice :)	[14:04]
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chibaguy	Do the cssmenu >> characters come from lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery?	[14:05]
luciash	yay, you have avatar in the jquery tooltip there, how did you do that ? :) chibaguy: yes i have switched it off by default in recent commit	[14:05]
chibaguy	I think I turned on "make info public" in user prefs.	[14:06]
	I can't seem to get rid of the >> characters. Updated lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js and cleared caches....	[14:13]
luciash	i'll check the svn mailing list for you	[14:17]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17615 10/trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): tikiwiki: [ENH] Improvements for mod-webmail_inbox. tikiwiki: Added AJAX refresh, now obeys autoloaddelay (module param) and autoRefresh (mailbox setting) tikiwiki: Part of the GroupMail project	[14:20]
chibaguy	looking at tiki-jquery.js, I see that autoArrows: false ...	[14:20]
luciash	Re: [Tikiwiki-cvs/svn] SF.net SVN: tikiwiki:[17583] branches/3.0/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js yes, that does the trick	[14:20]
chibaguy	which I uploaded to my site...	[14:21]
luciash	but i made it only for horizontal menus it seems :-p	[14:21]
chibaguy	I was just wondering about that too...	[14:21]
luciash	g, sorry, i noticed it myself right now too	[14:21]
chibaguy	but I don't see the >> at your site in the cssmenu_vert	[14:22]
luciash	now i wonder how come they don't show up at my test ground too ? :D	[14:22]
chibaguy	:-)	[14:22]
luciash	luciash is going to make svn diff there hmm, it's latest 3.0 with no modifications is your thenews latest ? do you use transitional style on zukakakina ?	[14:23]
chibaguy	transitional style is on now, yes. I think my thenews is latest. I just modified tiki-jquery.js to add the same arguments (or whatever they're called) to $jq('ul.cssmenu_vert').superfish(), just to check the effect. (no more >>)	[14:27]
luciash	ok, i think we loose lot of time on those little arrows, it's not such a big deal, i'll let you do something more important ;) heh, you can commit that i think then	[14:29]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17616 10/branches/3.0/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: [MOD] Don't show auto arrows (>>) in vertical css menus (same now as horizontal).	[14:33]
chibaguy	hey, I'm a javascript programmer.... ;-)	[14:33]
luciash	g :D luciash goes to hire gary ;)	[14:34]
chibaguy	even your comments are duplicated (I get paid by the line of code, right? ;-) )	[14:34]
luciash	yep, but you have to use minify before you commit the code ;)	[14:35]
chibaguy	:-) One neat thing about the superfish demo/code is the arrows use alpha transparency so can work with any color background, if I understand right. I think we need something like that to avoid contrast problems.	[14:36]
luciash	arrows are easy to be transparent even non-alpha (8bit) especially when the diagonal is 45 degrees but the arrow could be also font character from utf-8 switch the autoArrows back ? ;))	[14:38]
chibaguy	I was just going to ask what was the reason to turn them off? ;-)	[14:40]
luciash	just kidding, it can be overriden at js page load init anyway let them be off for now. two arrows were weird	[14:40]
chibaguy	Is the problem with autoArrows that they appear even for nongraphical browsers?	[14:42]
luciash	the problem with current triangular arrows is that they're at fixed position so when you have longer menu item it looks wrong yes	[14:42]
chibaguy	the triangles now are bg images of the li positioned something like 90% 50%	[14:44]
luciash	couldn't the top level menu items be auto width of the module ?	[14:45]
chibaguy	oops sorry bg of li a	[14:45]
luciash	and for the items padding-right: <ccasizeofthearrow> i think it shouldn't be a problem for vertical menus	[14:46]
chibaguy	yes, as long as the first dropdown (.cssmenu_vert li ul) has a margin-left to match This can be done in the theme stylesheet. sylvieg did it for darkroom already (maybe I messed it up, but if so will fix it) (I'll be happy when remember me remembers me again....)	[14:47]
luciash	chibaguy: i'm not sure but i have become suspicious the rememberme doesn't work only on localhost, but maybe it's just a feeling	[14:52]
chibaguy	ah, maybe my domain setting is bad. remember me remembers you?	[14:53]
luciash	it doesn't on my localhost :(	[14:53]
chibaguy	well, my zukakakina.com/tw3 isn't either but I just checked and its Remember me info is completely wrong.	[14:54]
luciash	luciash wonders where his user crontab settings are stored	[14:56]
	ah, in /var	[15:01]
CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17617 10/branches/3.0/templates/ (tiki-view_forum.tpl tiki-view_forum_thread.tpl): [MOD] forums: homogenize the heading part of view forum and view forum thread. Remove links to messu-mailbox which were strange and not optional. tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17618 10/trunk/ (lib/searchlib.php tiki-searchresults.php): tikiwiki: [FIX] Partial rollback of 17601 to fix search (Selenium tests) tikiwiki: Presumably commited by mistake? tikiwiki: Maybe this would be better done in an experimental branch?	[15:06]
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luciash	chibaguy: on test ground it keeps me logged in pretty long as opposed to my localhost	[15:29]
	i think .localhost as domain cookie name is not taken while .test.ground.cz is working fine	[15:36]
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chibaguy	ok, probably my configuration is not right. chibaguy must remember to check for user error before complaining.... ;-)	[15:44]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r17619 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki.tpl: oops, layoutshadows pref value must be checked, not just its presence	[15:58]
luciash	chibaguy: yep, darkroom css vert menu looks nice, should be done the same for thenews	[16:02]
chibaguy	I'll get to that tomorrow....	[16:06]
luciash	little fixes of appearance in IE6 and we can switch to css menus by default then instead of PLMs :) ok, there's still that problem of alignment when on right side there the PLMs are ahead but with small menu by default it shouldn't be big deal to have them by default anyway ;)	[16:09]
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chibaguy	It seems to be possible for suckerfish menus to be aware of window edges, like http://pfirsichmelba.de/artikel-scripts/dropdown/horizontal.html . dropdown goes the other way when too close to the right margin I guess using javascript	[16:18]
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luciash	chibaguy: yup, but the beauty of pure cssmenus is that it doesn't require JS	[16:26]
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irahul	!help	[16:28]
Tikiwiki\|bot	You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .	[16:28]
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Yoni	bye bye all	[16:52]
chibaguy	bye Yoni	[16:54]
Yoni	こんばんは how do you prounonce it ?	[16:55]
chibaguy	kohn-bahn-wah something like that	[16:58]
Yoni	Kohn bahn wah :)	[16:59]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r17620 10/branches/3.0/tiki-edit_css.php: [ENH] edit css: allow page reload after save without re-submitting	[17:03]
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sylvieg	luciash: is 'feature_ie56_correct_png' still a pref in trunk?	[17:15]
artbody	hy to all - the feature onmouseover showing the userinfo gives me a lot of errors be the validator on validator.w3.org	[17:15]
luciash	sylvieg: i don't work on trunk recently	[17:15]
artbody	using newes svn	[17:15]
sylvieg	luciash: I am just merging	[17:16]
luciash	sylvieg: it should be replaced there too	[17:16]
sylvieg	ok it is what I thought - thx	[17:16]
luciash	artbody: thanks for report, 3.0 ?	[17:17]
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artbody	4 update is 10 minutes old http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Ftest.debuk.org%2Ftiki-index.php&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0&user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.606	[17:18]
luciash	artbody: trunk then, we'll fix it on 3.0 and merge to trunk later	[17:19]
artbody	yes but it seems to be in 3 too	[17:19]
luciash	as i said	[17:20]
artbody	ok the rest looks good great work	[17:20]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17621 10/trunk/ (73 files in 24 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/3.0 17567 to 17617	[17:27]
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liquidape	Hey Guys I just encountered a huge bug in 2.2...curious if it is in the latest versions too. I renamed a Wiki page via the rename button at the bottom of the page. I renamed the page from CRG to CRG/Certification the / messed with the link...so I changed it to CRG-Certification I then realized that EVERY page that had a link to CRG was completely deleted. big bug. The pages exist, but are totally blank now	[17:27]
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chibaguy	artbody, the code for that has been replaced for Tiki 3	[17:33]
artbody	a ok	[17:38]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17622 10/branches/3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): tikiwiki: [MOD] Re-arrangement of experimental features as per: tikiwiki: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Release30process#Suggested_new_layout_for_experimental_features_section tikiwiki: Also new "half_width" class for these kind of divs tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17623 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-admin-include-features.tpl: tikiwiki: [MOD] Implement half_width div class in rest of file tikiwiki: (for simpler, lighter mark-up)	[18:03]
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SEWilco2	In 2.2 some filegal images aren't showing on IE but do show in Firefox. I'm not finding bug reports for that.	[18:49]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r17625 10/branches/3.0/ (8 files in 2 dirs): [ENH]amin ui revamp. ongoing	[19:16]
marclaporte	luciash: ping	[19:21]
ricks99	is there an easy way to "turn off" comments for a specific wiki page? or do i have to modify the perms?	[19:31]
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SEWilco2	ricks99: You might try defining a Category which does not have the can-comment permission, and attaching that Cat to the page.	[19:37]
ricks99	hm... theres no comment perms for categories i would love to be able to override the comments on a page-by-page basis (similar to the contributors listing)	[19:37]
luciash	marclaporte: pong	[19:39]
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marclaporte	luciash: : will you delete extra html comments? luciash: : I am seeing them appear in wiki plugins, not sure if you or Sylvie's :-)	[19:41]
luciash	marclaporte: if nobody else wants to... sylvie's are TPL:	[19:42]
marclaporte	central management is better if it works well	[19:42]
liquidape	any comment on the bug I saw? Anybody else ever seen that?	[19:42]
marclaporte	otherwise, 1 million monkeys will have to do...	[19:43]
luciash	btw, do you prefer them as TPL and /TPL or START of and END of ?	[19:43]
marclaporte	I think START is clearer for newbies	[19:43]
luciash	liquidape: i don't get it	[19:43]
marclaporte	but I won't fight over it :-) I am just SOOOOOOOOO happy I will have markers this will save TONS of time	[19:43]
luciash	:)	[19:44]
marclaporte	luciash: why did you wait this long? :-) :-)	[19:44]
luciash	marclaporte: no monkeys here, two replace commands are enough ;)	[19:45]
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marclaporte	hehe :-)	[19:45]
luciash	marclaporte: i didn't wait, i just didn't thought about it before until i saw it in another CMS ;) marclaporte: i think these <x> or something else must appear even when you are an admin unless the page is locked for editing by other users bbl	[19:45]
marclaporte	So would have to use html plugin?	[19:49]
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SEWilco2	ricks99: I think you have to define a Group with the desired permissions, then attach that to the Category. &^(&^$%^&	[19:55]
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luciash	re	[20:18]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17626 10/branches/3.0/ (8 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] backport to 3.0 find.tpl and auto_query_args	[20:56]
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SEWilco2	My large image problem was... Photoshop sticks stuff in JPEG which IE can't handle. Have to "Save as Web image" in Photoshop. Bug from 2002 A.D. which IE7 still trips over.	[21:06]
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luciash	SEWilco2: aye	[21:23]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17627 10/branches/3.0/lib/quizzes/quizlib.php: [FIX] quizzes : fix the tiki-edit_question_options grid search	[21:59]
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CIA-71	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17628 10/branches/3.0/ (11 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] find: deploy find.tpl and auto_query_args to some files	[22:21]
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luciash	image galleries can be nested, is it so with file gals too ? i don't see such option when creating new file gallery for parent gallery ah, ok, seems it takes automatically "where you currently are and you then follow the create link"	[22:44]
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luciash	so we got no mp3/ogg player wiki plugin included ?	[23:02]
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liquidape	luciash: yes file gals can be nested: To nest a new file gal, go to the file gal that you want the nested file in and then create the file there instead of from the top level	[23:05]
luciash	liquidape: thanks, already realized that too :)	[23:06]
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