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lq_934Can anyone help me out? I want to install tikiwiki and have it run my whole site. It's my understanding that I have to copy all the files into /public_html/ but that makes me feel dirty since it will be hard to remove at a later date. If I install to /public_html/tiki, it will be easier to manage but I will have /tiki in my url. What do people do? [00:51]
luciashlq_934: if your server is linux and you have ssh access you can symlink a dir next to public_html/
or you can do subdir and redirect or do URL rewrite when using apache http server 		[00:54]
lq_934Thanks for the reply. It's a linux server, so I will check out the ssh. I should have thought about symlink.
So people normally install to a subdir? 		[00:56]
luciashyep, but it's not that hard to move later
usually test site goes to subdir and then it becomes public moved to site root or relinked 		[00:57]
lq_934oh. So I am wasting my time trying to reinstall. I installed to public_html/foo, so can I rename it to public_html/bar and all will be joyus? [00:59]
luciashmosty probably yes :) [01:00]
lq_934Ok, thank you for the prompt help. [01:01]
luciashyou can try rename ~/public_html/foo to ~/mywebs/bar and make a symlink called ~/public_html linked to ~/mywebs/bar then
rename or move, as you wish
(your apache server just needs to be configured to follow symlinks i guess) 		[01:03]
lq_934My linux fu is pretty week, I haven't used it since I was developing for the PS2 and the devkits were linux only. Totally forgot about symlinks.
I see my host has redirects. Which would you use, the symlink or redirects? 		[01:06]
luciashsymlinks are easier for me :) [01:09]
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marclaportelq_934: : don't like to feel dirty? :-) [01:40]
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CIA-71tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17629 10/mods/trunk/themes/ (24 files in 19 dirs): [FIX] Replaced module toggle img float with positioning to prevent box content from moving around on hover; Eatlon directory name corrected. [02:59]
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nikhilodeonhi can someone tell me how to enable anonymous editing in tikiwiki? [03:10]
luciashnikhilodeon: give anonymous tiki_p_edit [03:11]
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CIA-71tikiwiki: 03luciash * r17630 10/branches/3.0/templates/ (636 files in 15 dirs): removal of the START and END of tpl inclusion comments, thanks to sylvie for better solution [03:37]
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CIA-71tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17631 10/mods/trunk/Packages/themes-andreas09_tiki_3.info.txt: [NEW] Package info file for Andreas09. [03:55]
chibaguy(package info file for Andreas, Tiki 3 update)
Andreas09
has color theme options 		[03:56]
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voraistosHey, i did my first contribution to tikiwiki.
well, really not much
http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=2384&trackerId=5&show=view
still.
I hope I did it the right way ;)
arrh guess what I forgot something 		[04:20]
marclaportetiki-admin.php?page=features are centered?!
voraistos: : congrats 		[04:25]
voraistosmarclaporte I forgot some info, can you help? :D [04:26]
marclaportesure [04:27]
voraistosOn function list_forums, I added $bigforum = ''
It kinda makes sense I guess for more experienced devs, but it's missing in my bug/patch thing. 		[04:28]
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nikhilodeonthanks [05:10]
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CIA-71tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17632 10/branches/3.0/styles/coelesce.css: [ENH] Suckerfish menu improvements. [08:20]
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tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17633 10/branches/3.0/css/cssmenus.css: [FIX] Menu z-indexes too high (shadowbox conflict); IE6 link padding missing. [08:37]
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luciashpolom [09:32]
YoniDobré ráno
:) 		[09:32]
luciashboker tov [09:36]
Yoniand it is a good one ! end of the week here... i can't work anymore
Yoni will fill a loto ticket this evening 		[09:36]
CIA-71tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17634 10/branches/3.0/styles/ (thenews/options/narrow_left_column.css thenews.css): [ENH] Conform suckerfish menu to left column width. [09:38]
luciashheh
chibaguy: very nice 		[09:39]
chibaguy:-) [09:43]
luciashadding image is missing something
it requires closing the popped-up window after uploading the file and re-opening to be able to click and insert the syntax at the end
in file gal
chibaguy: the top menu (horiz) still conflicts with shadowbox (just tested)
z-index too high 		[09:48]
chibaguyhi luciash, hmm. I just tested. what theme do you see that in? [09:52]
luciashthenews
i didn't refresh though 		[09:52]
chibaguyIt's ok here. Maybe old file at your server?
or browser cache? 		[09:52]
luciashi refreshed now browser cache, still the same
2 things to try yet ;)
1 left
0 left, still the same :-/
FF3 		[09:53]
chibaguyI was testing with Opera. I'll look in FF3.
chibaguy waiting and waiting for FF to display.... 		[09:56]
luciashhmm, there's some weird side effect too when hovering the vert menus, i get horizontal scrollbars appearing and then vanishing again
after onmouseout 		[09:58]
chibaguyhttp://zukakakina.com/tw3/Shadowbox_gallery - z-index ok in FF3
(FF3/windox xp)
I don't see any scrollbar problems, either... ?? 		[09:58]
luciashah, sorry, the scrollbar weirdness is when you have long menus and the menu goes out of the viewport, then the scrollbar logically appears
but the z-index problem remains (tested in two FF3)
FF3/linux
it's the horizontal css menu 		[10:02]
chibaguyThe z-index numbers are ok, as far as that goes. Maybe a FF bug or something.
?
I checked the shadowbox div z-index and put the menus below it. 		[10:05]
CIA-71tikiwiki: 03luciash * r17635 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] white bg for strasa document content on printing page [10:08]
luciashchibaguy: it happens with any theme, strasa too [10:09]
chibaguyYes, I wouldn't expect the theme to matter, if there's a problem. The menu z-indexes are set in css/cssmenus.css
not in the theme css.
But I don't see that problem in any of my browsers.
Do you see the problem at my site? 		[10:10]
luciashcan you test on my test ground with your FF to be sure ?
http://test.ground.cz/tiki/3.0/tiki-index.php?page=ShadowBox
chibaguy: i don't see the problem on zukakakina, maybe you forgot to commit something 		[10:11]
chibaguyYep, a problem on your site. [10:15]
luciashit's on my localhost and on my test site too, so i believe there's no glitch on my side [10:16]
chibaguywas 17633. [10:16]
luciashbtw, the first image at zuka stopped showing in shadowbox [10:16]
chibaguyThis is frustrating. The first image still works for me. [10:17]
luciashi'm at 17635 at both
oh, sorry, it works for me now too, maybe i was too fast and clicked on it before hadowbox initialized
sorry for frustrating you ;) 		[10:17]
chibaguyNo, I don't blame you. It's just that there are so many variables to deal with. :-) [10:19]
luciashcan you do svn status --ignore-externals ?
to see if you haven't forgotten any file to commit ? 		[10:20]
chibaguyAnyway, FF/Firebug shows that the cssmenu_horiz at your site is still at z-index: 2000.
I reduced that in 17633. 		[10:20]
luciashweeeird [10:21]
chibaguy..to 800.
Shadowbox is at 999. 		[10:21]
luciashluciash wonders what caches to clear yet :-p
must be cached at your browser too, when you see it so 		[10:21]
chibaguyhmm, cleared ff browser cache and I still see z-index: 2000. [10:23]
luciashchibaguy: i don't see any z-index change between current and 17632 when i do svn diff -r 17632 css/cssmenus.cs
s
or what file ?
chibaguy: are you sure it got commited ?
chibaguy: for sure it was not in 17633 		[10:28]
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CIA-71tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17636 10/branches/3.0/css/cssmenus.css: [FIX] Menu z-indexes too high (shadowbox conflict). [10:32]
luciashchibaguy: you only thought you're commiting that ;) [10:32]
chibaguychibaguy swears [10:33]
luciashaaah, finally :) [10:33]
chibaguySorry, luciash [10:33]
luciashnp, thank you, it happens [10:33]
chibaguyI must have commited it; the commit comment says I did ;-) [10:35]
luciash"everything's gonna be all right..." ;) [10:44]
CIA-71tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17637 10/branches/3.0/lib/searchlib.php: [FIX] calendar search: wrong field. [10:45]
chibaguytrue [10:45]
luciasha pity you don't have svn at zukakakina or you would recognize it soon
s/or/then/ 		[10:46]
chibaguythat's right. The hosting company won't give me shell access because I don't live in the US. :-(
paranoids.
well, I have an svn install on my laptop here but don't have the server running. 		[10:47]
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luciashah, i remember that story, change the hosting provider ;)
on your laptop there's win ? 		[10:49]
chibaguyI should look around.
yes 		[10:50]
luciashinstall wamp there
shouldn't be too difficult 		[10:50]
chibaguyYeah, I have xampp installed already.
but don't always have it running. 		[10:51]
luciashah [10:51]
jackyhi everyone
i have watched the idea list of tikiwiki
i am very much attracted by the idea "Theme/color scheme generator" 		[10:58]
luciashjacky: the ml ? [10:59]
jackysorry luciash, i did not understand by ml? [11:00]
luciashjacky: it's only one message there so far iirc and it is practically dead mailing list
jacky: but yes, it's good idea but it will be not in 3.0 yet, maybe next version 		[11:00]
jackyu mean this idea is not in GSoc 09? [11:01]
luciashwhat idea list you mean, i thought you talk about mailing list tikiwiki-ideas :-) [11:02]
jackyyes [11:02]
luciashGSoC is focused on version 4.0 anyway [11:02]
jackyi am talking about the ideal list of tikiwiki
http://dev.tikiwiki.org/GSOC+Ideas+2009 		[11:03]
luciashah, yup, that's it [11:03]
jackydoes version 4.0 already have this functionality [11:03]
luciashdo you want to apply for it ?
we're in beta process of 3.0 now ;) 		[11:03]
jackyok [11:04]
luciash3.0 should be released in april [11:04]
jackyok [11:04]
luciashsee the roadmap somewhere on tw.o [11:04]
jackyso the idea "Theme/color scheme generator" still to be implemented in version 4?
am i right?
or it has already implemented? 		[11:05]
luciashjacky: sorry i didn't understood at first sight what you mean by tikiwiki idea list [11:05]
jackyok [11:05]
luciashjacky: right, nobody yet started developing it
afaik 		[11:05]
jacky? [11:06]
luciash= as far as i know [11:06]
jackyok
ok 		[11:06]
luciashjacky: there was some test by some dev but it didn't continue
jacky: wanna see that ? 		[11:06]
jackyyeah
so can you pls tell me where should i start to implement this?
or atleast can take some idea how it can be implemented 		[11:07]
luciashplease read this first maybe: http://themes.tikiwiki.org/TikiThemeGenerator [11:09]
jackyyeah these are the link which are given on the idea page itself
i have gone though this link and related link also
but i haven't worked on tikiwiki till now
to know the tikiwiki better what should i do? 		[11:10]
luciashjacky: best would be if you first install it and play with it ;) [11:12]
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jackyokie [11:13]
chibaguyI think to implement something like a theme/color generator, you'd have to know Smarty template coding and javascript and css pretty well. [11:13]
luciashcan you get the latest version from SVN repository ?
luciash agrees with chibaguy 		[11:13]
jackyyeah i can [11:13]
chibaguyJonny Bradley is also very interested in this, but is busy now with the Tikiwiki 3 beta.
(like the rest of us) 		[11:14]
luciashjacky: you can try branch 3.0 first but start developing on trunk please if you do [11:14]
chibaguyHe'd be a good person to contact about that idea. [11:14]
jackyokie [11:15]
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luciashyep, so jacky: first install and play a little while with tiki, explore the code, learn smarty syntax if you don't know yet [11:15]
jackyokie luciash [11:16]
luciashjacky: second step subscribe to the tikiwiki-developers mailing list and contact the other developers [11:16]
jackyokie [11:16]
luciashjacky: then we can tell you more and give commit access eventually [11:17]
jackyokie luciash [11:18]
CIA-71tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17638 10/branches/3.0/ (styles/strasa.css templates/tiki.tpl): [FIX] IE7 fixes. [11:21]
chibaguystrasa col2 is still missing in ie6
at least in my multiple-IEs version
errr, in the normal version too...
suckerfish menus are looking better in IE6, but they flicker as the mouse moves up and down menu items....
apparently when moving from one li a to the next 		[11:22]
jackyluciash: you said "you can try branch 3.0 first but start developing on trunk please if you do" some time before". what is trunk in it?
and did you mean version 3.0 of tikiwiki by branch 3.0 		[11:38]
luciashtrunk is main development of SVN
branch 3.0 is development branch of soon to be released 3.0 version 		[11:39]
jackyokie
thanks luciash 		[11:39]
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ricks99q: how to delete (remove) a plugin alias that i created by mistake?
i see how to deactivate it, but i want to completely remove it 		[12:05]
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CIA-71tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17639 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] 100% body height caused right column to not display in IE6. [12:14]
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luciashchibaguy: wow, good catch [12:18]
chibaguyyeah, I removed two-thirds of strassa.css before finding that...
commented out all the most likely suspects and then started on the rest of the file :-| 		[12:19]
amettechibaguy: about moving themes.tw.o - I have been working all this week on getting an IPSec-Tunnel working to the new setup to be able to easer debug, when our Database locks up...
... that's up and running now (not perfect yet, but usable)... so I didn't find time to work on anything else...
... and on the weekend I'm occupied...
... can we decide on one evening next week to meet here and debug the hell out of the new themes? ;)
Otherwise I fear, I won't manage to approach you next week.. :P 		[12:28]
chibaguyok, probably any day is ok for me, so at your convenience....
about new themes, do you mean the ones in branch 3.0? 		[12:31]
amettealright, cool... then let's think aobut time zones...?! [12:31]
chibaguyOr others? [12:31]
ametteoh, sorry, I mean themes.tw.o 8)
we need to move it rather soon - only one month to go 		[12:31]
luciashchibaguy: sorry, i feel guilty about that [12:32]
ametteno dinner for luciash tonight :P [12:33]
chibaguyah, I see. Well, don't worry. I don't think there's too much pressure to update.
It will be good to update of course, but the site gets kind of casual use.
So it will be good for testing, etc. 		[12:34]
ametteyeah, sure, but it should move to the new server and I'd like to have that done rather soon to find any bigger errors before the old server gets closed
so I'll just approach you next week again ;) 		[12:35]
chibaguyok, find me here or email me when you like. [12:36]
amettealright, cool :)
did you btw get my e-mail about So Flute? 		[12:36]
chibaguyyeah, that was cool. :-) [12:36]
ametteok, great :) [12:36]
Yonihallo Amette [12:37]
chibaguyalways nice to know new music [12:37]
ametteheya Yoni :)
amette agrees with chibaguy :) 		[12:37]
YoniYoni wonders if he got a song he have done on his laptop to share... [12:38]
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There is not a lot of differences between ff3 and ie8 		[13:10]
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luciashamette_: any idea wassup with image files like http://dev.tikiwiki.org/img/wiki_up/tiki_screen_example.png ???
they should show up on http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=TemplatesBestPractices but give interesting loops or wth 		[16:04]
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amette_luciash: sorry, no idea... [16:05]
sylviegWhen I do a {maketoc} avec a !toto - I am suppose not to see the 'toto' right? [16:05]
luciashcan you see the logs please ? [16:05]
amette_I don't get them but I get something without stylesheets... right? [16:06]
luciashsylvieg: what means avec ? [16:06]
amette_I have a telephone conference right now - remind me later please, ok?
might be rewriterule stuff 		[16:06]
luciashamette_: okay [16:06]
sylviegsorry with [16:06]
luciashi think so too
why it shouldn't show up ?
sylvieg: ^
only when wiki page titles are on 		[16:06]
sylviegbecause it is before in a page -- seems stupid to display it [16:07]
luciashmaybe, but then it becomes h2, so no problem
ah, before ? hm. 		[16:07]
sylviegyeh before in the text - if the maketoc is not a the top [16:07]
luciashthat makes sense to not show them up maybe with some parameter though, the toc can be used differently by some people
maketoc 		[16:07]
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luciashsylvieg: e.g. {maketoc before=n} or something [16:09]
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luciashto preserve environment and make it optional ;) [16:10]
sylviegwas not working too in 1.9 [16:11]
luciashok, then the other way around ? [16:11]
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CIA-24tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17642 10/branches/3.0/templates/find.tpl:
tikiwiki: [FIX] find.tpl: remove the for attibute of the label and the id of the input.
tikiwiki: It's breaking the field on the grids where we have two find fields (eg. in
tikiwiki: tiki-send_newsletters) in different tabs. And, as the input is nested in the
tikiwiki: label, it's useless 		[19:47]
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CIA-24tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17643 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-admin-include-wiki.tpl: [MOD] Join 2 remarksboxes to be tidier [19:59]
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CIA-24tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17644 10/branches/3.0/ (15 files): [MOD] Move include of admin.css to parent admin page [20:18]
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CIA-24tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17645 10/branches/3.0/ (css/admin.css styles/transitions/2.0to3.0.css): [MOD] Moved declaration of half_width to admin.css [20:25]
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CIA-24tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17646 10/branches/3.0/templates/ (45 files): [MOD] find.tpl: remove _sort_mode param. It's useless since query adds all hidden params anyway [20:31]
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lq_328Could use a hand. I am installing 3.0 beta 1. After running tiki-install.php and following all the instrutions, I got to the lock install. When clicked on lock install I got a forbidden error.
You don't have permission to access /tiki-index.php on this server
How do know which files/dirs need their permissions set?
found it on smarties 		[20:46]
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SEWilco2Odd. I added an iframe to an edit page and fckeditor seems to have taken it over. [21:35]
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Ah. If I move the iframe above the "Wiki Help" button it works. [21:57]
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CIA-24tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17647 10/branches/3.0/templates/ (tiki-admin_menu_options.tpl tiki-admin_menus.tpl): [MOD] menus admin: indent code - no changes [22:09]
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