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voraistosanyone? [00:57]
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Tikiwiki|botYou can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot . [02:05]
CIA-24tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17677 10/branches/3.0/ (12 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] Better semantic layout.
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17678 10/mods/trunk/themes/ (16 files in 16 dirs): [ENH] Better semantic layout. 		[02:11]
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voraistos!tikibot
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Tikiwiki|botYou can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot . [04:14]
voraistos!learn add bot Yet another dumb bot
!bot
yet another dumb me it seems
!anti-bot
!captcha
!tikiwiki
!Tikiwiki
is this thing dead or what ?
!help 		[04:15]
Tikiwiki|botYou can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .
I am a dumb bot indeed
So quit it! 		[04:17]
voraistosalright... [04:18]
Tikiwiki|botGood.
I hate it when ignorants annoy me.
I am doing incredibly complex calculations, and cannot be bothered. Please read doc.tw.o 		[04:18]
voraistosno need to take the piss... [04:21]
Tikiwiki|botI am a bot. I do not take the piss. I do clean /tmp from time to time though.
/me sometimes feels like hacking into a human just to beat another one up. 		[04:22]
voraistosvoraistos can use the /me command :D [04:26]
dthacker!bugs [04:26]
Tikiwiki|botRecent Bug: Tracker item: #2379 - Using trackers to compare things - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2379
Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2380 - wrong linebreak with ">"-character in wikipage - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2380
Recent Bug: Tracker item: #2381 - TikiWiki Forums execute code outside of {CODE} - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2381 		[04:26]
dthacker!ice cream
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dthackerTikiwiki|bot: tsk tsk tsk. That's not very nice. [04:28]
Tikiwiki|botit's a security feature [04:29]
dthacker:P [04:29]
Tikiwiki|botyou must kill the current script if you want ice cream input
also you should filter ice cream first, to avoid xss 		[04:29]
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CIA-24tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r17679 10/branches/3.0/templates/find.tpl: [FIX] find.tpl: no need to keep offset when a search is done on a grid where there is pagination [08:05]
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R|SKPolom, polom.
Guys Ive got a problem sorting a straucture in TW 		[10:21]
lorincturn off multilingual structures [10:23]
R|SKI want to move a substructure 2.3.x.x to 2.2.x.x but when I hit the up-arrow the structure is moved to 2.1.x.x and not to 2.2.x.x. So what's up there? [10:24]
lorinchit the right arrow when 2.3 is below 2.2 [10:24]
R|SKYou mean the "promote"-arrow? [10:25]
lorinci dunno what the link description says, its the arrow pointing to the right: > [10:26]
R|SKI'll give it a try
Doesn't work.
The substructure stays at the same level. 		[10:27]
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lorincanother option is to recreate the structure by first dumping the existing one, then creating a new one via the structure import feature with reordered content [10:33]
R|SKYes, I've already thought about it, but I fear that my existing strucutre would be destroyed, if I do it this way.
And my structure contains ~200 pages. It would be hard to recreate it by scratch, if sth. Accidentally happens. 		[10:36]
lorincif you don't delete stuff, there's no point worrying [10:38]
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lorincstructure changes definitely work by recreating a structure
(but that arrow thing should too)
create a db backup just to make sure 		[10:38]
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R|SKSorry, got a network problem. [10:41]
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R|SKI thought about dumping and recreating the structure before, but I fear that sth. Might go erong and I might loose my whole structure. [10:42]
xavihi , chibaguy seems not to be around... luciash ?
I see that on current strasa.css I cannot see tikisheet style... 		[10:42]
R|SKAs it contains ~200 pages it would be hard to recreate it from scratch. [10:43]
xavieven if I added that to 2.0to3.0.css transition style sheet
and the site has the setting to use that style sheet if something is not defined in the current style (like tikisheets in strasa.css, which are missing)
R|SK, sorry just arrived. what's your problem, again?
can't you print the full structure for you (using wiki > multirpint)? 		[10:43]
R|SKNo, I can't sort a substructure accuratelay [10:46]
xavi?
sort? 		[10:46]
R|SK[30 Mrz 09 12:24] * R|SK * I want to move a substructure 2.3.x.x to 2.2.x.x but when I hit the up-arrow the structure is moved to 2.1.x.x and not to 2.2.x.x. So what's up there? [10:46]
rockroachHi, does anyone know why removing db/lock doesn't allow access to the installer? I'm trying to upgrade to 2.3. [10:46]
xavioups, that looks like an error?
structures (even big ones) work fine for me, on Tiki 2.x... 		[10:47]
R|SKIndee xavi
My structure contains ~200 pages.
But it is just this substructure that I can't move. 		[10:47]
xavistructure in doc.tw.o/Documentation contains even more... and it works fine, afaik [10:48]
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R|SKIs there I way I can accidentaly locked this substructure against moving? [10:48]
xavirockroach: it works for me, removing the lock. what your error message?
R|SK: no idea. try checking that you haven't any page locked, or weird page names in there... but I wonder if that can produce your problem. Or look at the code, if you can... 		[10:48]
R|SKI'm not a php coder... [10:51]
xaviR|SK: can't you just edit that link at 2.3.x.x, and re-assign which parent page it has, or something similar?
R|SK: find a (paid?) coder to dig into that problem for you (neither am I a php coder, sorry) 		[10:51]
R|SKI'll think about dumping the structure, reorder it per text-editor and upload it again. [10:51]
xaviyes, but backup your site first, just in case :-) [10:52]
R|SKWhat'S the best way to backup it? [10:52]
xaviR|SK: I recall some info about the numbering in structures being buggy... I wonder if this might be related to your problem...
backup database, I mean. Follow the docs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Backup 		[10:52]
R|SKthx. [10:53]
xavinp.
amette , ricks99 or anybody interested in the freetag feature: I can't get it to tag file galleries or files successfuly...
... I get to tag the file gallery or file, by tagging through the module freetatgs_tag on the column, while seing the gallery in the central column...
...however when I search for that tag, I get the result for the gallery, or file, but with no content on it, just a red cross to untag that content... (but the file gallery name and link is not shown)
using latest 2.x 		[10:54]
ricks99hi xavi. not sure. i have only used tags with wiki pages and blogs [10:57]
rockroachxavi: The standard error message as if db/lock was there. It's complaining about a non-existant file. [10:59]
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xaviricks99, ok, thanks for feedback. They might not work well for files. I might open a bug report later on
rockroach: are you sure that this file is not there? are you using ftp?
search at ./db/ a file called lock (without extension) 		[11:17]
rockroachxavi: I'm using ssh. ls says it isn't there, nothing with ls -a either. I even tried removing db/ and using the one from the 2.3 tarball, makes no diiference. [11:19]
xaviweird... are you using multitiki, or just a simple tiki? [11:20]
rockroachJust incase is was a proxy cache problem I had someone else outside my network have a look, same thing.
xavi: Simple tiki. 		[11:20]
xavimmm, hold on, but why do you need to go to tiki-install.php?
for upgrade from 2.2 to 2.3 is not needed... there are not db changes at all, afaik
I did many upgrdes from 2.2 to 2.3, and everything went fine, afair 		[11:21]
rockroachxavi: I'm following the upgrade documentation. [11:22]
xaviwithout touching the db, as explained in the article...
ah, ok, but read the message at info.tw.o about that release: it says there is no need to db upgrade
rockroach: and can you please update the documentation accordingly? (when there is no need to upgrade db, if reported by the release news, then no need to go through tiki-install.php again) 		[11:22]
rockroachxavi: How can I be absolutely certain which version I had before the upgrade? I think it's 2.x, but which one. [11:25]
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xavirockroach: no idea for sure on 2.x. But you can safely (attempt to) upgrade your database (in case it's needed), by manually running on the console the upgrade sql script with the -f param
this way, you'll force to run the upgrade 1.9to2.x.sql (or similar) on your database
and this should work for you, if you want to be 100% sure that you have the latest database
hth 		[11:30]
CIA-24tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r17680 10/branches/3.0/lang/ca/language.php: [ENH] some more strings translated, from Anna at intercanvis.net [11:33]
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rockroachxavi: I've got .org, .com and .net addresses aliased to the same vhost under apache. I've been trying with the .org address, I just tried the last one on the list (.net) and the error message disappeared. I can now see the installer. Odd! [11:50]
xaviglad it worked for you, somehow [11:56]
rockroachxavi: Thats for the help, most appreciated. :-) [12:01]
xaviwelcome... I hope you can help others on the forums from time to time, or so :-)
or here on irc, of course, if you plan to stay around fro time to time :-) 		[12:02]
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rockroachxavi: Unfortunately what I know about tiki can be printed on a postage stamp and still leave space for the picture, country of origin and price. :-P [12:14]
xavi:-)
oh well, when the stamp gets bigger then, send a postcard to the irc or forums! ;-) 		[12:16]
rockroachWill do, xavi. :-D
Just another question out of curiosity. Has any one else run into a problem with the header graphic deisapearing when upgrading from 1.9.x to 2.3? Using the default theme. 		[12:21]
CIA-24tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r17681 10/branches/3.0/lang/ca/language.php: [ENH] Some more strings translated (those one from myself) [12:31]
xavirockroach: yes, revide the site you identity tpl and/or the look and feel code.
cheers 		[12:34]
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ricks99how can i set (or configure0 the order of the backlinks?
i cannot figure out how they are sorted in the Backlinks droplist on wiki pages
would prefer them to be in a-b-c order 		[13:22]
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jackyhello everyone [13:34]
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jackyhello everyone
i am very much interested in idea "Theme/color scheme generator"
i have installed tikiwiki on my server
and has got some idea about tikiwiki
now i want to watch the code of tikiwiki
can anyone pls tell me from where should i start to look the code?
so that i can understand it in less effort
.
hello someone
pls help me 		[13:35]
R|SKAsk sylvieg or ricks99. [13:39]
jackyare they on the irc now?
or should i email them? 		[13:39]
R|SKThey are in this channel. But if they are available... [13:39]
jackyokie [13:40]
sylviegto understand the code .. the only approaching page is http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hello+World
if it is for the summer code... ask to the mentor of the subject
explaining the code on irc... is not an easy task 		[13:40]
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jackyyeah it 's true
i wanna know where to start?
to look upon the code 		[13:42]
ricks99hi jacky [13:42]
jackyhi ricks99 [13:42]
ricks99for theme stuff, you'll need to know/learn smarty+php+css [13:43]
jackyyeah i know that
but this time i want to understand the code for tikiwiki 		[13:43]
ricks99all the libraries are in ../lib directory [13:44]
jackyi want to have some idea about tikiwiki
or where should i look to implement this idea
? 		[13:44]
sylviegthe best is to contact the volunteer mentors for theis subject http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=GSOC+Ideas+2009#Theme_color_scheme_generator [13:44]
jackyin tikiwiki
okie 		[13:44]
ricks99ah.. gsoc item [13:44]
jackyso should i email the mentors? [13:46]
ricks99y [13:46]
jackyor they are on this IRC now? [13:46]
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sylviegping luciash chibaguy marclaporte [13:47]
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jackyokie [13:48]
CIA-24tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17682 10/branches/3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX]blog: cancel must go back to the last page that is not tiki-blog_post [13:53]
R|SKAh sylvieg: regarding your last commit: this should also be done for wiki pages.
If I set up a new wiki page and cancel the edit of this page, the "return" link leads back to the edit page again.
Using TW 2.x 		[13:55]
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CIA-24tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17683 10/branches/3.0/lib/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
tikiwiki: [NEW] JQuery Smarty plugin and new headerlib function helper add_jq_onready()
tikiwiki: The prefilter is only loaded if feature_jquery is on (means you don't have to escape the JS with {literal}s everywhere)
tikiwiki: Wikiplugin coming soon... 		[14:59]
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CIA-24tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17684 10/branches/3.0/lib/smarty_tiki/block.jq.php: [MOD] More exmaples and help on {jq} syntax [15:16]
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17685 10/branches/3.0/ (css/admin.css templates/tiki-admin-include-textarea.tpl):
tikiwiki: [ENH] Added JQuery show/hide management to plugin aliases admin page (tab)
tikiwiki: Hides all irrelevant panels and form items until needed, hopefully making the page easier to use and understand.
tikiwiki: A few new admin.css definitions to handle nested lists of paramerers etc 		[15:24]
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irahul!help [16:07]
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CIA-24tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17686 10/trunk/ (42 files in 18 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/3.0 17665 to 17685 [16:14]
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SEWilco2doc.tw.o blank page upon search for phplayers menu [16:38]
sylviegDOes somebody know what is the prefs multilingual structures? [16:43]
ricks99y. means if in structure, and a page matches your lang, tiki will select *that* translation [16:44]
sylviegand doe it change the structure?
documentation versus documentation,es? 		[16:45]
ricks99no (afaik), only the lang of the pages that you will see as you "page" through the structure [16:46]
sylvieg... and why it is not best language? [16:46]
CIA-24tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r17688 10/trim/ (scripts/backup_database.php src/instancelib.php): Allow for backups exceeding MySQL's maximum buffer size, compress dump during backup, fix instance removal [16:47]
ricks99i think, because when you are in the sturcture and you click NEXT, tiki only opoens the page by ID -- not by pagename + bl
but there are many oddities that don't work correctly (such as multilingual toc in a structure)
i believe there are several open bugs & rfe items on wiki-translation.com 		[16:47]
sylviegthx for explanation ... make sense best_lang will change the page and the structure (does not work like this - but could do) multilingual_stru stays in the same structure.. [16:52]
ricks99but why would u have different structures? my use case is a *single* structure, with pages in different langs, but allowing the user to "page" through the complete structure, seeing either their best language, or site laguage [16:54]
sylviegis it working like this now? [16:57]
ricks99y, but things like toc do not work
see the full issue explanation: http://wiki-translation.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=213&topics_offset=3&topics_sort_mode=lastPost_desc&forumId=2 		[16:59]
sylviegthx - I am trying to fix "But you are no longer in the structure "... [17:01]
ricks99tx sylvieg
i'd love to see the TOC issue fixed, too (http://wiki-translation.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=2&comments_parentId=211&comments_per_page=1&thread_style=commentStyle_threaded) 		[17:02]
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irahulhi..
any mentor for gsoc ..?? 		[17:14]
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CIA-24tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r17689 10/trim/src/ (env_setup.php sshlib.php): [ENH] Report file transfer errors with more details [17:18]
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irahulcan anyone help me for..... how to contact mentors assigned for gsoc ..???
from tikiwiki.org 		[17:23]
ricks99http://dev.tikiwiki.org/GSOC+Ideas+2009 [17:26]
irahulyeah ..i got it...but how to contact the mentors mentioned on the site...to discuss about the proposal for an idea..?? [17:30]
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CIA-24tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17691 10/branches/3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]prefs: feature_user_watches_translations is in admin->feature
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17692 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-admin-include-i18n.tpl: dos2unix 		[17:42]
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r17693 10/trim/src/ (appinfo/tikiwiki.php applicationlib.php instancelib.php): [ENH] Always clear template files before check to reduce false negatives [17:49]
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CIA-24tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r17694 10/branches/3.0/lib/ (setup/prefs.php wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_html.php): [FIX] Making this XSS hole not as wide open [18:04]
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CIA-24tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17695 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-wiki_topline.tpl: html fix [18:13]
sylviegricks99: the toc is working pretty well for me... [18:18]
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CIA-24tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17696 10/trim/Makefile: [FIX] Adding missing doc when running TRIM [18:46]
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marclaportepolom
hey boys & girls 		[19:03]
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marclaportekeep up the AMAZING work towards 3.0
1 more month 		[19:04]
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CIA-24tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17697 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: [FIX] typo [19:23]
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tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17699 10/branches/3.0/lib/structures/structlib.php: [FIX]structure: fix {toc} sort in multilingual structure : sort on pos and not page creation date [19:52]
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CIA-24tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r17700 10/branches/3.0/installer/tiki-installer.php: [FIX] profile installation in installer
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17701 10/branches/3.0/ (lib/setup/wiki.php tiki-index.php): [FIX]wiki: move the best_language selection in the setup as modules... can depends on pagename (ex:category) 		[19:54]
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tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r17703 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-admin-include-profiles.tpl: [ENH] Moving configuration options to the bottom [20:11]
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mdalehelp, somehow I've broken the dropdown part of the menubar (is this phplayers menu?). The top level displays ok but nothing drops down. It used to work and other tikiwiki sites work ok so it isn't a browser issue. [20:18]
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luciashmdale: what did you do ? :) [20:27]
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luciashyo marc [20:28]
mdaleluciash: If I knew that I'd change it back again ;o) I've installed GeSHi for syntax highlighting but if that caused issues I doubt I'd be the only one. [20:33]
luciashmdale: try to switch it off but i doubt that too, anything else changed / enabled ? [20:34]
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mdaleluciash: I had a fiddle with some css but I've re-uploaded the original just in case that was the problem. I've added the google adsense module to the left hand side. I'm new to tikiwiki as is my mate who is also an admin. I've asked if he has made any changes but he doesn't think so. We're still trying to get a handle on how tikiwiki works and what settings and options we need. if you want to take a look hea [20:38]
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luciashoups, that was too long sentence it seems :)
mdale: if the PLM doesn't expand i can imagine only some JS conflict which could cause an error, does your JS console say something (FF or IE ?)
is it tiki 2.3 ? 		[20:39]
CIA-24tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17704 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-user_preferences.tpl: [FIX] Allow users to change their preferences without getting kicked out [20:44]
mdaleluciash: I'm using 2.1 (shared hosting). Good thinking about JS console. Firebug says lwidthDetected is not defined. [20:47]
luciash: It bombs out at layersmenu.js line 161, within function moveLayerX1 [20:52]
luciashmdale: weird, can I have a look at the site ? [20:53]
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mdaleluciash: feel free. http://wiki.diracdelta.co.uk [20:57]
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luciashmdale: the submenus are completely missing in the generated source... try to switch off the ajax feature or make sure they're still in Admin > Menus
mdale: otherwise no idea why they don't appear 		[21:06]
CIA-24tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17705 10/branches/3.0/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] Turning off some less important plugins on clean installs [21:07]
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CIA-24tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17706 10/branches/3.0/ (22 files in 4 dirs):
tikiwiki: [MOD] Quick fix to change quicktags order to ascending by label so H1, H2, H3 (etc) list in the right order.
tikiwiki: DB schema patch to rename "bold" to " text, bold" etc so they list in a more usable order (and is more consistant across features).
tikiwiki: TODO (in quicktags revamp for 3.x)
tikiwiki: Refactor so everything uses smarty_block_textarea() 		[21:12]
mdaleluciash: Ive turned off ajax, and double checked the menu options. Am I correct in assuming that section level 0 is the top level and any following options are submenus until another section level 0 is encountered [21:16]
luciashyes [21:17]
CIA-24tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17707 10/branches/3.0/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] Turning off equation plugin, on clean installs, which causes WSOD on my Tiki (and is not important enough to be on by default). [21:19]
mdaleluciash: could this be the problem http://osdir.com/ml/cms.tiki.user/2007-06/msg00009.html. My mate is also admin and is as much of a noob as me so might have messed things up. [21:21]
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luciashmdale: it's different, it didn't show the menu at all in this case [21:26]
CIA-24tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17708 10/branches/3.0/lib/setup/prefs.php:
tikiwiki: [MOD] Turning off (on clean installs) several less important plugins. This is
tikiwiki: subjective of course, so you can just turn back on the ones which you feel
tikiwiki: should ALWAYS be on by DEFAULT for all profiles. Remember that more specific
tikiwiki: ones should be activated with profiles. 		[21:28]
mdaleluciash: sorry, I'm playing about. Standard IT helpdesk fix - switch it off and then back on again :o) [21:28]
luciashheheh [21:28]
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mdaleluciash: got to go now but I'll keep playing. BTW the footer.tpl seems ok. [21:34]
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CIA-24tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17709 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_translated.php: [FIX] Only activating TR and TRANSLATED plugins if site is multilingual [22:05]
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CIA-24tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17710 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tr.php: [FIX] Only activating TR and TRANSLATED plugins if site is multilingual [22:08]
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17711 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tr.php: [FIX] Rollback 17710. Use of TR by default is necessary for now because default home page message uses it. A better solution is welcome. [22:13]
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17712 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_survey.php: [FIX] Survey plugin should only be available in survey feature is activated. [22:23]
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tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17713 10/branches/3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
tikiwiki: [KIL] Remove stray copy of function.js_maxlength.php
tikiwiki: Corrected Id svn:keyword & removed ancient comments on "real" file
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17714 10/branches/3.0/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] Versions plugin is cool, but currently broken (http://dev.tikiwiki.org/bug1775) so deactivating on new installs. 		[22:42]
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voraistospolom
I was wondering If you knew what in tikiwiki deal with writing urls? in menus and such. 		[23:58]
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