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chibaguy: Can .tabcontent manage without a z-index? Infamous IE z-index bug makes suckerfish menu dropdowns (z-index: 800 or something) appear _under_ .tabcontent (z-index: 200).
If the only purpose of .tabcontent z-index is to make sure it overlaps the bottom of tabs, then maybe tabs can just be aligned more carefully to the top of .tabcontent, and remove the z-index.
Well, at least IE7 can get .tabcontent with z-index: none....
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chibaguy: or .tabcontent{position:static}, for no z-index....
er, position: static... :-)
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CIA-24: tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17794 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-admin-include-anchors.tpl: [FIX] No need for inline elements (a.icon) to be floated (was causing column overflow in IE7).
chibaguy: Hmm, when did tiki-admin.php break in IE7, in feb12 and thenews? (center col overlaps right)
.cbox & .cbox-data need overflow:hidden for IE7 to wrap the contents, apparently.
CIA-24: tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17795 10/branches/3.0/styles/ (coelesce.css feb12.css strasa.css thenews.css): [FIX] div.cbox and .cbox-data need overflow:hidden for IE7 to wrap the contents (problem noticed with icons on tiki-admin.php).
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17796 10/mods/trunk/themes/ (10 files in 10 dirs): [FIX] div.cbox and .cbox-data need overflow:hidden for IE7 to wrap the contents (maybe only a problem for litecss layouts but added for all).
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Beestje: @ Hansi : I have created a blogs plugin to put the x last posts of a blog in a wiki page.
I have submitted the feature request http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=2392&trackerId=5
maybe you can get the attached file and test it?
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luminoso: bom dia
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Yoni_: morning
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spoonypjk: generally for images within wiki pages would you just use a file gallery to store them?
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ricks99: hi all
anyone know why Version plugin is broken in 3.x?
jonnyb: hi rick - not used it recently, sorry
ricks99: :(
gonna make it really tough on doc.tw.o
was fixed in 2.x, regression in 3.x
see http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=838
jonnyb: can't be much to it (FLW), i'll check it out
ricks99: u da man!
jonnyb: let's see... ;)
CIA-24: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17797 10/trunk/lib/commentslib.php: bad merge
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spoonypjk: blah I really want to leave wysiwyg enabled in 3.0.. but it just creates such ugly inconsistent text. I'll miss the nice image uploaded though too.
hmm maybe i shouldve enabled content purifier?
err i mean html purifier.
sylvieg: jonnyb: I will give up with shoutbox ajax - right now - need to do something else - I can not have it work with a minimum of recoding
CIA-24: tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r17799 10/trunk/ (8 files in 4 dirs): [MOD] new 'feature_comments_locking' pref to allow the user to disable the locking of comments (this has no impact on forums, where the locking feature never was an option) + fix a missing global smarty
jonnyb: hi sylvieg - ok, that's more or less where i got with it (too scary for 3.0). But i'll have a look at the changes you made to all the modules yesterday - was that related?
sylvieg: not really
jonnyb: oh - what do you suggest? rollback to separate soutbox from shoutjax again?
sylvieg: I added the missing globals to be able to put the execution of a module in a function - it will be cleaner - but ... it is too much risky for 3.0
jonnyb: agreed
i'll have another go at adding a parameter on shoutbox so it doesn't do ajax by default
chibaguy: I hope shoutjax can be added separate from shoutbox; very nice function.
jonnyb: me2
sylvieg: problem is that i can not have the pagination working without breaking shoutbox
points I do not understand
with calling tiki-shoutbox in ajax-shoutbox?
jonnyb: you also had an issue with ajax and flash plugin, sylvieg - but that wasn't related to this was it? (more to do with ajax edit, i think)
sylvieg: no this was with the javascript --- but it seems not so import
flash is not often used...
jonnyb: ok, good
i'll have another go at shoutbox/jax
sylvieg: I will send you want I tried to do ... I need to do something else today
jonnyb: super - thanks
CIA-24: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17800 10/trunk/ (110 files in 14 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/3.0 17786 to 17798
jonnyb: ricks99: wikiplugin_versions is completely mad and i can't work it out at all - seems full of typos and errors, and the help doesn't really, um - help
CIA-24: tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r17801 10/branches/3.0/ (10 files in 7 dirs):
tikiwiki: [MOD][BP-17799] new 'feature_comments_locking' pref to allow the user to disable the locking of comments (this has no impact on forums, where the locking feature never was an option) + fix a missing global smarty
tikiwiki: [NEW][BP-16740] forum and comments: New locking feature
ricks99: :(
CIA-24: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17802 10/branches/3.0/ (lib/modules/modlib.php tiki-module.php tiki-modules.php): [MOD]module: split the code to be able to execute a module individually
ricks99: really, really, really, need it to work :(
jonnyb: i think i should leave it and address the ajax problems (i've caused) - sorry, i'll check in where i've got to
more than beta2 being released?
(today, i believe)
ricks99: well...
would like to see it fixed before final 3.0
jonnyb: plugins can come later surely?
sylvieg: jonnyb: mail sent explaining where I am
(I need to read xajax doc one of these days)
chibaguy: jonnyb, what is later today?
jonnyb: 3.0 beta 2?
chibaguy: Hmm, I hadn't heard that...
jonnyb: thanks sylvieg - xajax docs are very thin - been there, will do my best
maybe i dreamt it chibaguy? :)
chibaguy: Did you wake up in a cold sweat? ;-)
jonnyb: usually!
sylvieg: jonnyb: if you do not have time today, I will have another try tomorrow
jonnyb: had a complete power outage all friday, then busy all weekend - didn't help!
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spoonypjk: with wiki syntax can you apply a ! or !! to text inside a title -= =- ?
I cant seem to get it to happen.
sylvieg: ! must be the firat character of the line
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spoonypjk: Hmm cant get it to happen in 3.0
ricks99: for 3.x installer, if there is no internet connection, the "install/upgrade profile" takes a *long* time to load (1+ minute on my pc) while tiki "times out" any way to shorten this delay?
spoonypjk: I get a bold ! and then the next line as the -= =- title
luminoso: beta2 today? cool!
bring it on!!
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marclaporte: ricks99: : nyloth coded something around there,
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ricks99: havnt seen nyloth in a while
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CIA-24: tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17805 10/branches/3.0/css/admin.css: [FIX] jquery reflection seems to make 'div.adminanchors a' display:block so they need to be floated.
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chibaguy: jonnyb, I've noticed some strangeness in the Strasa theme's left column, in IE7. The module flipping is crazy. As the modules collapse, the title gets left behind, etc.
This is with or without jquery on.
jonnyb: yummy :)
chibaguy: Just wondering if you've noticed.
I'll keep checking.
Funny that it's only that column in that theme.
jonnyb: not recently - module flipping has been odd sometimes recently - i only do IE7 in emergencies (usually takes 30 mins+ to run for me)
that's the one with the round corners? maybe related?
chibaguy: I tried it without the corner bg images (and padding needed for them, etc.) also - same result.
But anyway I'll do a more comprehensive check tomorrow (it's near midnight here).
jonnyb: eek! - nite nite, see you later
chibaguy: heh, ok :-)
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CIA-24: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17806 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_versions.php:
tikiwiki: [FIX] wikiplugin_versions showing all versions' text
tikiwiki: Beefed up preg_replace pattern to detect next '---(version x)---' tag (hope it holds!)
tikiwiki: Also fixed some var name typos & strpos evals
tikiwiki: (thanks Ricks99)
spoonypjk: is it possible to get "add another image" to default to an image gallery instead of a file gallery in 3.0?
jonnyb: i don't think so spoonypjk - image galleries are on their way out afaik
spoonypjk: ah, so file gallery's will handle everything?
Hansi: Beestje: I got it to work using bloglist plugin "{BLOGLIST(Id=1, Items=10)}{BLOGLIST}", but thanks anyway :-)
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SEWilco2: Do file galleries cache the resized images? I'm having trouble finding where they are cached.
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alfredpr: !help
Tikiwiki|bot: You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .
uSlacker: good afternoon all
I want to follow up on the windows issue for a few minutes
Not sure who can answer but can any of the Devs explain the use of $tikiroot in tiki-installer.php?
from its name I would epect it to contain the root directory of the tiki install
but under Windows it does not work. It instead holds the drive root (C: typically )
jonnyb: not sure in installer but everywhere else (on *nix) it seems to be set to the root of the install
uSlacker: So if I modify the code to make it do the right thing on Windows - that would be good, correct?
SEWilco2: jonnyb: Is it root on the filesystem or root in URLs? I forget.
jonnyb: actually it's set to the path - e.g. /tiki/branches/3.0/
url
uSlacker: so if my url was http://gmartin.org/tiki/tiki-index.php then $tikiroot would be /tiki?
Ok, next question. Looking at tiki-installer.php there is a create_dirs function
in the declaration is declares 'global $docroot'
I'm not much of a php coder - is that delaring a new variable called docroot that has global scope or is it accessing and existing variable
The variable is not defined in that function, but it uses it to point to the apparent filesystem path to tiki
jonnyb: uSlacker: $tikiroot should be /tiki/ (with trailing /)
sorry - deep in ajax, haven't looked at installer for er... ever, maybe
global accesses existing (global) var, or creates it if not there
uSlacker: But it is wrong. It appears to point to the directory aboe where tiki is
aboe = above
jonnyb: - thanks
jonnyb: have a look at phpinfo to see what the server's sending - the one you want should be there somewhere
uSlacker: ok - so that comes from the server?
jonnyb: there's a link on tiki on under admin (assuming you've got one running ;))
mine is http://localhost/tiki-branch-30/tiki-phpinfo.php
uSlacker: yeah - I have it. ineresting it won't work for a new Windows install until the install completes!
jonnyb: you can make one very easily...
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uSlacker: interesting - in phpinfo doc_root is set to nothing - which now that I think about itis what php.ini says
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uSlacker: jonnyb: (I hacked it to work - thanks
jonnyb: http://php.net/phpinfo
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jonnyb: might be related...
DawnLight: hello
uSlacker: ok - thx jonnyb. gotta run and do real work. more tonight...
jonnyb: bibi
DawnLight: I see that minimum is 512 but i've only got 256 in my rented vps. is there hope?
jonnyb: hi DawnLight - me to, runs ok but can be a bit slow
where does it say min 512?
DawnLight: does it swap, jonnyb?
http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Requirements+and+Setup&bl=y
jonnyb: yes, so slow somethings
DawnLight: i won't use it, then...
i've another question, here. why isn't it packaged for debian and ubuntu? i mean - i've seen the discussion in debian about this but this hasn't been changed since a long time. doesn't anyone feel like packaging it?
jonnyb: it might be my vps - and i have 4 multitikis running on it too - it certainly doesn't completely fail
no time
it would be great though!
DawnLight: it would
i'm not sure where to file such requests in ubuntu
spoonypjk: Just when you think youve got everything just right.. you test it on the windows machine in ie7.. and bam doesnt quite work right. Just noticed in 3.0 in ie7 (thenews)
in thenews, the name of the menu and the first menu item appear on the same line right next to each other in ie7
fine on firefox on linux though.
Been trying to compare and track it down but at a loss at the moment. dont know the layout well enough
its fine in other styles
dawnlight: Im sure you could use your vps and disable a heap of unneeded services.. especially if you're running a gui.
DawnLight: what gui? on the server? i don't think that there're any services to disable
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spoonypjk: is it already quite a streamlined server distro?
DawnLight: sure
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luminoso: so... 3.0b2 today?
jonnyb: doesn't sound like it, everyone missed the mail
luminoso: :-(
i din't like tw version 2
but since i saw 3.0b1
jonnyb: soon though
luminoso: i'm lovig it
jonnyb: :)
luminoso: already instaled it on my host
i'm almost shore it i'll be my website engine
jonnyb: me too - i have several non-critical ones running branches/3.0 for a while - you'll love it! (i think)
luminoso: 3.0 is so... hummm
web 2.0
lol
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jonnyb: getting there - thanks
luminoso: i'm the one who say thank you for your work
:-D
so: thank you
CIA-24: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r17810 10/branches/3.0/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] Invalidate page's cache after validation
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CIA-24: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r17811 10/branches/3.0/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] someone forgot to add global and include for the smarty icon function call ;)
luciash: oolom
jonnyb: and polom luciash
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luciash: yo jonnyb
jonnyb: greets
luciash: i'm sorry for being late, got busy with some other stuff
is beta 2 already out ?
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CIA-24: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r17812 10/trim/ (Makefile scripts/setupupdate.php scripts/update.php): [MOD] Script to setup automatic update
jonnyb: no body else seems to have noticed that mail, so i think not
luciash: heheh, actually i only read it first time too (that one which seems to be from marc in your reply)
i'd like to add something still tonight hopefully before beta2 still
to admin > l&f
jonnyb: i'm glad - want to get the category picker sorted out before we freeze - 50% done
luciash: thanks for removing that debug of jquery sortables... it got very annoying when it suddenly appeared on menghao.cz :-p
i figured out i have to switch jquery sortables off in the end :-p
jonnyb: i never saw the debug info :( hence it getting left in - odd, as i have firebug & most of it works ok
yes, sortables is extra-experimental - shame...
luciash: they were javascript dialog windows popping up suddenly :-p
jonnyb: so do you think it's ok with the degub switched off? it messes up the odd/even colourings
luciash: what messes it up ?
i didn't notice
i just noticed you commited oops fix to remove these debug messages... i didn't try it on since
jonnyb: the "zebra" stripes of odd/even rows goes all weird for me
luciash: matthew have sent me a mail today about he wants to document write some extra divs to allow some rounded corners or something using jquery
i have replied him that's already in with no JS requirement
were you working on it together ?
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jonnyb: that's what i tried to say
luciash: i have to ad some setting to the l&f pagesstill for it
*page still
jonnyb: sort of - i was trying to untangle the ajax mess i'd made (sylvieg did it in the end)
yes, i saw the checkbox (looking a bit lonely) and see it makes lots of extra divs, but didn't get more involved
luciash: i have to reply him still about what's it about (the layershadows preference)
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luciash: i'd like to keep it without jquery dependency
marclaporte: polom
jonnyb: put something on doc.tw.o maybe? (agreed, not jq dependant)
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luciash: yo marclaporte :)
jonnyb: hi marc
marclaporte: if any questions for LPH, he is with me. We are cleaning up some stuff in TRIM & profiles
luciash: i'd like to, it's getting very busy these days ;)
LPH: how are you, man ? :)
jonnyb: ditto
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CIA-24: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r17814 10/branches/3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] Normal to accept anything in the HTML plugin
marclaporte: he waves his hands :-)
jonnyb: marclaporte: the mail i this morning sent with a screenshot that was too big for the cvs list this morning can be killed - gary fixed it anyway :) ta
luciash: :)
so this html plugin is very dangerous stuff, right ?
marclaporte: yes, very
luciash: powerful but dangerous, will it blink some red alerts around when users enable it ? ;)
marclaporte: we need to add that!
we would need a mouse-over warning on all potentially risky options
on the checkbox
+ adding to admin security
users need plugin_validate to make html plugin dangerous
luciash: jonnyb: btw, www.menghao.cz uses layoutshadows preference on ;)
Hansi: A very good idea to warn users about potentially dangerous stuff, not everyone (including me) know the implications of enabling this and enabling that ... which I have a tendency to do ;-)
luciash: hallo Hansi, yup yup :)
Hansi: hello luciash ;-)
maybe with an option to turn those warnings off ... and a VERY BIG warning on that option ;-)
jonnyb: nice luciash - no more hacking tiki.tpl for me :))
luciash: jonnyb: yup yup :)
Hansi: hehe
jonnyb: luciash: a little more css to do though (as always ;) )
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Macleus: Im new to the tikiwiki world but when I click save from the wiki edit menu, it gives me an object not found 403 error. I checked to make sure that it was changing the wiki pages and it is but I still get this error
luciash: jonnyb: it's not that bad.... that site is pretty lightweight on css classes and ids which were required to style... not everything in the admin part nor all features are styled of course
Macleus: what do you mean by "wiki edit menu" ?
Macleus: this is the addresshttp://xxx.xxxx.net/Main-Page&saved_msg=y
that I get
Im sry, the wiki page edit
when you click edit on a wiki page
jonnyb: Macleus: sounds like a sefurl thing - probably easiest to switch that feature off (you have to set up .htaccess etc otherwise)
Macleus: gotcha, lemme try that
That fixed it, thank you so much
One last question, how do you see all of the tiki pages listed
jonnyb: no probs - page list is "inside" the main menu wiki item
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Macleus: it doesnt show up there, like it was deleted.
do you know the page address
jonnyb: url is tiki-listpages.php
Macleus: thank you, I will add it back in
Hansi: I'm trying to create a module for the local weather appear ... the box appears, but it's empty ... is there anything special that needs to be done to use php code in a module? Is it at all possible?
...weather to appear...
luciash: Hansi: you have to enable php syntax for smarty (it's like {php}...{/php})
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luciash: in 3.0 it's on Admin > General iirc, dunno elsewhere
Hansi: luciash: just put those in the start and end of the code?
luciash: y
i mean in 3.0 you have to allow php code in smarty because it can be potentially unsafe in some areas where smarty syntax is allowed
Hansi: so ... that's one of those that should have a big fat security warning? :-P
luciash: sort of, yes :)
Hansi: darn ;-)
luciash: depends who you allow to use that syntax
if it's just you, admin, it's safe
Hansi: you mean f ex in wiki pages?
luciash: only parts i know it can be used are admin areas and modules
and tpl files of course
so if you don't allow your users to edit modules, it should be safe
Hansi: I don't think I'll be allowing others to write stuff on my page, maybe other than comment on things
bah ... still doesn't work
luciash: 3.0 ?
Hansi: yeah
luciash: enabled the checkbox on Admin > General ?
Hansi: updated about 15 mins ago ;-)
yes
luciash: (sorry, i haven't tested myself, i just know the checkbox does exist there ;))
Hansi: hehe
luciash: congratulations, you revealed another bug it seems :-p
Hansi: thanks anyway ;-)
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Hansi: well, before we draw that conclusion it should be mentioned that I am no programmer at all
maybe I could whip up some kind of PHP "Hello World" ... *maybe* ;-)
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SEWilco2: !help
Tikiwiki|bot: You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .
SEWilco2: The bot seems to ignore private messages.
!learn HelloWorld See http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hello+World
!HelloWorld
Caarrie: only certain people can use that SEWilco2
SEWilco2: Whatever "that" is, that is not documented.
Odd. The bot is ignoring private messages but uses them for error messages.
Caarrie: yes that is how it works for some things
unless that page says /msg then it does not work there
Hansi: When using php in modules, shoud I put "{php} <?php" in the beginning or only {php}"?
sylvieg: only {php} but be carefull it will not go through in 3.0
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sylvieg: except if you allow it in setup_smarty.php
Hansi: Yeah, I'm using 3.0
enabling it in Admin >General won't help then?
sylvieg: no the {php} is disabled ion the code
Hansi: ok thanks, I'll try that :-)
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Hansi: lol
something borked badly ;-)
SEWilco2: {BORK() /}
Hansi: perhaps I should do this on the testserver instead of the "production" server ;-)
SEWilco2: You mean feed the dog behind the cage instead of in the front of the zoo? Where's the fun in that?
Hansi: lol :-)
CIA-24: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r17817 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_rss.php: [FIX] Sort order
tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r17818 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_rss.php: [FIX] Some things just never make sense
Hansi: Anybody know how to remove the background picture in the "abse" theme?
-: SEWilco2 makes a joke about adding -nt to abse.
Hansi: -nt?
luminoso: with 3.0b1 when i login i see all menus: articles, file galleries, wiki,etc. but when i logout only wiki appears on menu. what should i do to see the other ones?
SEWilco2: luminoso: Add *-view permissions to Group "Anonymous"?
Hansi: luminoso: You probably need to give Anonymous more rights
luciash: luminoso: go to AdminĀ > Groups > Anonymous and assign all in level basic to it
SEWilco2: Oh. 3.0 has default levels? Good.
luciash: far down there's hidden "extra" stuff to expand
Hansi: lol ... at least we all agree ;-)
luciash: SEWilco2: Tiki has it since it's beginnings iirc ;)
luminoso: thank you
luciash: Sug4r`: learn HelloWorld as http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Hello+World
Sug4r`: OK, here we go!
SEWilco2: HelloWorld
luciash: >whatis helloworld
Sug4r`: 'helloworld' could be (#1) http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hello%20World, or (#2) http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Hello+World
Caarrie: hehe
luciash: LOL
SEWilco2: Sug4r is multilingual.
Sug4r`: NO.
luciash: *g*
Caarrie: >whatis luciash
Sug4r`: 'luciash' could be my Mastaaar !?!? :))
Caarrie: >whatis L0ggar
Sug4r`: Error: No factoid matches that key.
SEWilco2: >whatis funny
Sug4r`: Error: No factoid matches that key.
SEWilco2: >whatis factoid
Sug4r`: Error: No factoid matches that key.
SEWilco2: >whatis that key
Sug4r`: Error: No factoid matches that key.
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luciash: >learn pm as private message - you can talk to me in and i will reply you in private if you issue command like /msg Sug4r how are you ? ;)
Sug4r`: OK, here we go!
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SEWilco2: Sug4r think
Sug4r`: People laugh when I say that I think a jellyfish is one of the most beautiful things in the world. What they don't understand is, I mean a jellyfish with long, blond hair.
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Mookleeus: Hi all, when I add a new page to a structure it creates a new structure instead of adding it to its place in the structure
any ideas
???
SEWilco2: Mookleeus: You are misunderstanding "Add new" as "add to structure" where it also means "add new page".
Mookeeus: There is a way to add an existing page to a structure.. I can't remember.. is it further down on structure admin page?
Or maybe structure edit page, rather than structure admin.
Mookleeus: but when I type out my configuration on the structure creation page it just creates a whole slew of new structures, I thought it was supposed to organize them for you
Hansi: okay ppl, I gotta go sleepy sleepy ... Cya, good night!
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DawnLight: hello. i've clicked install and i'm waitinig a whole lot of time now. this is a very basic VPS. what should i do?
jonnyb: hi dawnlight - where's it got to? anywhere?
SEWilco2: DawnLight: Can you sing? No, wait, we can't hear that.
DawnLight: the browser, you mean?
this is only irc but there's skype today and so on
jonnyb: can you look at the database? phpmyadmin or something? (and yes, browser)
DawnLight: i'll look to see if something was created but i don't know querying
the browser is just rotating the thingo
SEWilco2: I wonder if the PHP time limit might affect install.
DawnLight: i've set the limit to the reccomended
SEWilco2: Hmm.. but hitting the PHP time limit would at least give a message.
DawnLight: but this is a really basic vps. compares to a pentium 3
jonnyb: see if it's made any tables
SEWilco2: I think that installation is slowed by disk more than CPU.
DawnLight: there are 213 tables if i understand the interface
jonnyb: sounds right
it's probably doing all the permissions etc - i think singing might be best for a while...
SEWilco2: DawnLight: Can you see disk space? With Linux shell interface that would be 'df -h'
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DawnLight: nothing's full
Guest18860: evening :)
SEWilco2: DawnLight: Disk usage probably not going to change now that all the tables have been created.
DawnLight: evening
SEWilco2: In some places it is evening.
CIA-24: tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r17820 10/branches/3.0/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] Adding default directories
Guest18860: I'd like to get a short comment on how stable Tiki 3.0 beta is... I just recently found out, that I am still running 1.10b and guess I should upgrade, but I am unsure to waht version
DawnLight: so i'll just... hit the tiki-install.php again?
i've done that a few times during previous steps of the installation
SEWilco2: DawnLight: Give it five more minutes first.
DawnLight: it's been at least 30
Guest18860: we are mainly using the wiki and forum features
SEWilco2: Dawnlight: Hmm. I wonder how many copies of the installer are now running.
DawnLight: i've since rebooted the server so one right now
SEWilco2: Are we running 3.0 on *.tikiwiki.org? That might give Guest18860 an idea of behavior/stability.
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mat-in: excuse the nickname...
stats on tikiwiki.org says: release 2.3
jonnyb: Guest18860: 2.3 is the release version of 1.10, so do that first (i would say) - 3.0 has a lot of other changes (styles etc)
mat-in: So i do a backup (as usual), then follow 1.10 / 2.0 upgrade instructions, do a backup again and give 3.0 a try?
jonnyb: dawnlight: probably time for another reboot soon? i've not had that (just stopping) problem on my 256MB vps, but it's slightly above pentium 3 spec (so they tell me)
DawnLight: why reboot?
jonnyb: what else is there? (try killing tasks? (bad) - restart apache? might be kinder...)
mat-in: sounds good - can you really restore your backups?? ;)
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mat-in: uh... I can delete the webspace and the database and re-upload all files / the database.
doing a full backup right now, not just the file gallery and the database
jonnyb: i've had trouble in the past restoring tiki databases - hopefully just me (text encoding issues i think) - good luck!
mat-in: I had to restore a database once, because my webhost got hacked... worked o.k. just lost the special local characters in the process
where can I find, which username tiki uses to connect to the DB?
jonnyb: sounds fun
in db/local.php
DawnLight: i pressed Esc and it tells me "Installation complete"
jonnyb: :))
mat-in: uh... oh... there is more then just the username, it contains the plaintext password too!
dump... dump... dump DB! *sings to make it work faster*
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SEWilco2: DawnLight: Well, mat-in thinks you should have sung.
mat-in: The password has to be in that file because that is where TW looks for it.
DawnLight: tikiwiki looks promising to me. i like the development model
marclaporte: DawnLight: : 6 years, 200+ committers, tens of thousands of installs....
DawnLight: but i think my vps is too slow for some reason...
marclaporte: Something must be right :-)
DawnLight: perhaps the ssl...
top doesn't even show the cpu load of processes
sounds like a job for tommorrow
good night
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mat-in: well.. the DB dump (23MB) and the full files backup (6000 files) is done... now uploading 2.3
so... yes. singing does help
spoonypjk: hmm is googlemaps working in 3.0b1?
sylvieg: plugin? tracker field?
CIA-24: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17821 10/branches/3.0/lib/tiki-js.js: [FIX] setFlipWithSign needs to know about showhide_headings ("section" where flipWithSign stores the cookie)
spoonypjk: syvlieg: was that asking me?. if so.. Ive just tried enabling the feature and configuring my api key etc. but it just comes up grey.
CIA-24: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17822 10/branches/3.0/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: [FIX] jquery flip() handle display styles other than block (like inline) properly - no animation
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17823 10/branches/3.0/tiki-admin_categories.php: [FIX] More robust CVS import
spoonypjk: hmm nah just cant get it to display anything but grey.
mat-in: argh! Uploaded the 2.3 files for upgrade, ran tiki-install.php according to upgrade guide (renamed local.php first). Error: Access denied for user 'xa299_1'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
I used exactly the username / DB name / password from the old local.php file, did not change the DB
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sylvieg: mat-in: are you sure you do not have a typo in local.php
mat-in: ahhh... working now. had to use 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost
sylvieg: mat-in: you nedd clear all the caches..
mat-in: i use the 1.9.x to 2.0 upgrade script for 1.10 to 2.3?
spoonypjk: Hmm actually when I click the powered by googlemaps (to goto google maps directly but iwth the link thats being used in the googlemaps feature).. that doesnt work either.
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spoonypjk: theres a problem with the link in the feature: "/maps?ll=89.19" for some reasong || is inserted in there.
if I take out err not ||.. i think its ll ?
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spoonypjk: anyway if i take out ll manually it works. hmm
mat-in: it looks different... but neath
if i upgrade to 3.0b i will need to install new styles, too?
spoonypjk: where is the code for the gmap feature anyway??
sylvieg: mat_in you need all the step 1.9 to 2.0
and 2.0 to 2.3
not sure it will handle all
spoonypjk: the plugin or then tracker stuff or ..
spoonypjk: sylvieg: I'm trying to figure out whats generating the actual link to google. Its the same everywhere I look, the usermap or even in the setup of the googlemaps feature..
the link appears to be adding in "/maps?ll=89.19" I assume the ll= means latitude and longitude.. but if I manually copy/paste the link in another browser and remove the ll so its just /maps?=89.19... it seems to work.
dont know if im explaining myself right.
i guess its the plugin?
sylvieg: can be templates/tracker_item_field_googlemap_value.tpl or templates/tiki-gmap_locator.tpl or templates/tiki-gmap_usermap.tpl
tw has a couple of places it uses it.. so[23:09] <Tikiwiki|bot> Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc Channel. TikiWiki or better known as TW, is your Groupware/CMS (Content Management System) solution, you can get more infomation at http://info.tikiwiki.org/ .
spoonypjk: hmm cant find anywhere in the templates or the code for the locator or usermap anywhere where its generating that "ll".
CIA-24: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17825 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-admin_modules.tpl: [FIX] RSS picker was not appearing in module builder.
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r17826 10/branches/3.0/ (7 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)
tikiwiki: [ENH] Change category picker layout, now nested and grouped according to parentage. (& removed extra show/hide button)
tikiwiki: TODO:
tikiwiki: Fix: default to all nodes open
tikiwiki: Check no-javascript functionality (should be ok if above worked)
spoonypjk: i might have to not use googlemaps and wait till it gets fixed.
CIA-24: tikiwiki: Remove or tidy the [+-] flippers (folder icons?)
tikiwiki: Fix: ClueTips not working for description
jonnyb: marclaporte: you and LPH still finding edit plugin helpers not working?
marclaporte: LPH is gone
I will try again
jonnyb: he mailed that it was broken 3 weeks ago (by me :( ) - odd, cos mine are working fine
mat-in: tiki 2.3 is running smooth, it seems. File galleries, wikipages, forum working. Had some SQL errors during the upgrade, but seems it has not broken something important
jonnyb: woo mat-in!
mat-in: should i do another full backup before going 3.0? or should i wait those week until the final release of 3.0?
things like the ajax auto-save seem great for users that tend to close their browser before posting what they have written ;)
jonnyb: i can't get it to work, sadly
it's very experimental at the moment, i'm afraid
mat-in: ah... thanks for the hint... guess I will give it some more time to be done then. It's poison for a community when a website is annoying people...
marclaporte: jonnyb: : I confirm plugin edit thing doesn't work for me on latest branches/3.0
jonnyb: I have no idea which commit broke it
jonnyb: : which revision?
jonnyb: 1 mo
17475 LPH reckons
sylvieg: yeh autosave kis not working for me too
mat-in: see you! got to go, play with the new features ;)
sylvieg: sept seems to have a lot more commit
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jonnyb: marclaporte: it was a fix to make absolute urls work for images during parsing so they survive a switch to wysiwyg mode
sylvieg: I propose we postpone 3.0 - too many problem...
marclaporte: May 3rd is current target
jonnyb: +1 sylvieg, i'll be on the case tomorrow and wednesday then off for easter so would suggest another rain-check for beta2 on wed?
marclaporte: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Release30process#Blockers -> what is missing?
jonnyb: (i.e. i can fix stuff for next two days, than not much)
*then
sylvieg: marclaporte: there are so many pbs report on 3.0 - so...
-: sylvieg wnats to fix this ajax stuff - with the module
jonnyb agrees
marclaporte: where are the reports?
-: sylvieg thinks because we were very permissive on 3.0 recently
sylvieg: i suppose we have to freeze 3.0 now - but really freeze - and see
we were too permissive
freeze is freeze
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sylvieg: we have to build the team that backports
for instance - today I fixed the topic that was lost when editing an article -- this should never occur in a beta release
jonnyb: the category picker was the last thing i was hoping for - hope it's ok... the rest is fixes
sylvieg: i will not give name - because today I mess up with actuionlog too - to please xavi because he is an helpful guy for tw
the category picker is bad - but the cookie jar is broken too
marclaporte: 100 steps forwards
sylvieg: I try to substitute the cokkie jar to the categ picker - and cookie jar is broken..
jonnyb: did i make them worse? i fixed a couple of show/hide things just now along with category picker revamp
marclaporte: category double click was bad
jonnyb: gone
sylvieg: jonnyb: I do not think it you ....
can be me too
-: sylvieg wonders why spet7 disappears
marclaporte: I see less than 10 blockers on list
please add stuff to list and I will try to fix some
sylvieg: we can - too many new stuffs are committing to 3.p
s/p/0
we can not
marclaporte: what is important is the number of regressions
sylvieg: thx jonnyb - he fixed the version plugin regression
marclaporte: about 20% of messages in tiki-forums (in install section) is people that have trouble with Windows/IIS
If someone can answer Greg's question, we can solve permanently these issues
sylvieg: not me - the strasbourg team
marclaporte: ok
sylvieg: they introduce these level - I still do not know why
ced
I think it is because of https
marclaporte: ah maybe yes
-: sylvieg thinks that doing business in windown world on opensource can be prolific
sylvieg: bbl
jonnyb: marclaporte: i'm trying to work out this edit plugin thing (but fading fast) - maybe i'm not testing the same thing?
marclaporte: jonnyb: : not sure 17475 is the culprit
jonnyb: if you compare ignoring whitespace there are only a few tiny changes - and all backend - sounds more like a JS problem if nothing's appearing
we're talking about the little blue icons on every page to the right of a plugin, right? a form should appear (and does for me)
marclaporte: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/img/wiki_up/tiki3_edit_plugin.png
it works for you on latest branches/3.0 ?
jonnyb: yup - always has (once i sorted out the hidden mootools dependancy)
marclaporte: how about on http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/ ?
profiles.tikiwiki.org edit plugin helper doesn't work for me. Code is branches/3.0 from today
jonnyb: do you get stuff like "popup_plugin_form("img", 1, "HomePage", {"src": etc" in the page source
checking...
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jonnyb: looks like profiles.tw.o has mootools on and jquery off
marclaporte: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/tiki-admin.php?page=features mootools is on
but not jquery
jonnyb: "I do not have permission to use this feature" - i'll test locally
-: jonnyb really doesn't like mootools ;)