I just installed the beta2
multilingual features still do not work properly
I'm using v2.3 and I have a user who got locked out of their account (multiple unsuccessful login attempts).  They get the re-validation email but when they go to the URL they get a "feature not enabled" message.
tiki-confirm_user_email.php says if (!isset($prefs['email_due']) || $prefs['email_due'] < 0)  but I don't know what "feature" email due is.
example: I install tiki, restrict available languages to english, french and spanish. set tiki up with detect browser lang, user pref lang and user can change lang
i set my browser for preferred language - french, and tiki won't let me
see the damn thing in french
I had made some modifs in tikiB1, but too deep to work with all of tiki (just wiki and forum), and I managed to make the language (auto and manual) selection actually work.
I'll take a look and see if there's anything that's obviously broken
"Changing page language will also change the site language" is broken too
HAHA I found the problem ;)
sylvieg: quick bug report, setting "use database for translation" seems to break the whole multilingual thing. Note: after (de)activating it in tiki-admin.php?page=i18n , I get messages such as "preference language set"
it even tells me "preference language set" when I activate db translation (and at the same time obviously breaks the stuff that make $prefs['language'] work.
there seems to be some cock-ups with caching as well
some things appear in french, others in english, and other thing in both french and english
"preference Fonctionnalité désactivée : lang use db
(preference name: lang_use_db) "
menu is in french, module such as login and "since your last visit" are in english
I don't wish to talk over you voraistos but "email_due" seems to be the "Re-validate user by email after days" admin login option but this seems to be mutually exclusive of "Re-validate user by email after unsuccessful logins"
can I ask what the URL your users are told to visit is?
"when they go to the URL they get a "feature not enabled" message"
Darkbee
on minute
one even
http://www.website.com/tiki-confirm_user_email.php?user=username&pass=3c7c507418046157ba1b60e639564e84
that's not the real URL
but it's what the URL looks like
and you say validate by email is set ?
yes
that's odd
any weird permissions going on?
not that I know of
some users are reporting that they're being logged out
everything else seems to work fine
logging out is probably normal timeout
the workaround is for the user to use the tiki-remind instead
see rememberme
I think rememberme works but other users say no.
It's late, I'm tired.   I'll pick this up tomorrow
thanks for helping
hmm wait up
ok
if #1 priority s to bring that account back to life it should be easy
just pay a visit to the db
oh it's easy, like I said the user got that message and so said that they had forgot their password instead and got in that way.
ok
so there are ways around the system
You should file a bug report tommorrow then
no one's around
but it would nice if they got locked out after some unsucessful logins.. it's a good security feature if someone is trying to access some elses account.
I think I will.
thanks.
good luck with your language issues.
no pb, and it's good feature indeed, avoids abuse :)
bye all
I think I'll go for a fat tiki install
:)
multitiki they call it I think :D
Hi Group!
Just installed a Tikiwiki 3.0 version on bluehost, and when editing a page, I received the following... http://pastebin.com/d2b02e127
Anyone available for helping a bit?
Can anyone see my message?!
MartinComeau: saw the message
is this an upgrade?
TY! Nope, a fresh install
and you used the installer?
Yes
is this a tarball you installed from , or svn?
so, you tried to create a translation of a page, right ?
No, just editing a page.
were there any sql errors when u ran the installer?
Nope, everything goes right
I got the same issue just an hour ago
ok
tiki 2.4? or beta 2?
is your page displaying PAGE_CONTENT or something similar now ?
3.0
thats what I got
beta2
beta1 didn't have the issue
ok, I can display a page, create a page, but cand edit it (meaning saving it)
voriastos, did you resolve it? something must be missing from the db script for upgrade to b2
or I mean beta 2 install
if it's replacable all around
replicable
I just replicated it
what profile?
Sorry, have to leave :-(
the page HomePage displays the normal  default tiki homepage (hardcoded in tiki-index I think), however, when editing, it only shows "HomePage_CONTENT", when saving it gives this error, however, the edit works (in my case)
I'll be back asap...
default barebone profile
idem barebone profile
did u enable any other options?
Yes a few...
in my case yes, quite a few
images gallery, files galleries, calendar
try a fresh install. and see if u can replicate, without chaning any features
ok... Now it works.. I disable a lot so, let me try to open them one at a time
I'll tell you
well, I'm looking at some of the code changes and really , on install, you should have this field in the db
It is Categories
I have enable 'Categories' function and I get the errorr back
I didn't have categpories enabled, but the error was there
same with freetags
Error is coming up also with freetags enable
I just dropped my db to start from scratch
and I get the error
either of you have access to the database?
oh yes
can you check something?
I have disabled freetags and categories and it works really well
yes, the latest db changes was not applied somehow to this install...
could it be related to value2 (description) being empty ?
no
can you see if you have this file installer/schema/20090205_forum_and_comments_locking_tiki.sql   
Have to leave, but ty!!!
I have it
values('wiki page','HomePage','','HomePage','tiki-index.php'1239414375'page=HomePage','0','n',?)
this doesn't seem valid
values('wiki page','HomePage','','HomePage','tiki-index.php','1239414375'page=HomePage','0','n')
this is more like it
uh?
my change didn't appear lol
anyway, there's something wrong with the syntax, there shouldn't be anything after the last 'n' because this is the last argument
value for comments_locked
your db has any comments_locked field in tiki_objects?
according to the error Martin posted to the pastebin, his doesn't
hmm no
no comments_locked
ok, that sql patch did not run. Maybe it was named wrongly
it think it should have been 20090405 IMO
I will send this to the dev who patched that to check
in the meantime, if you run that sql manually, it might fix things
yes you're right
now the field is there
and editing works without issues
thanks for reporting this
does anyone know how to link two tikiwikis?
hmm
hello all
does anyone know how to link parts of two tikiwikis that are sister sites?
That's what Intertiki does.
hhmmm
http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Intertiki
users who register at the master site don't have to re-register at the slave sites.
ahhh
thats part of what i need
i also need to know if there isa way to make a forum link to a forum on a different site
Not automatically, as far as I know.
hmmm
cause meand a friend are going to run two sites
his for general stuff and mine for computer stuff
and i want to have some forums on his site link to ones on my site
is there a way you could modify some of the data in the db?
If the link is static, you could edit the forum template to just add the url. If it's dynamic, that'd be harder.
it should just be static
The easiest way would be to make a module in the side column to display the links.
i guess
iwas just hoping for pure intergration
Well, there isn't code for that by default.
are you on the devo team?
yep, mostly doing themes, css, etc.
I think that cross site linking would be a good feature to add
i know how to add it i just dont want to screw something else up
What there is so far is the intertiki user authentication, and some short cuts for wiki page references.
Nothing for forums, though, afaik.
afaik???
as far as I know
kk
do you know the requirements for joining the dev team?
no formal requirements. you need a sourceforge id, and agree to the three rules - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=3Rules
you should get on the tikiwiki-devel mailing list and get an idea of who's doing what, etc.
ive never been on a devo team before
what is the best way to work on my idea?
Do you do coding?
yes
Quite a bit of everything
well, you're welcome to join the tikiwiki project.
also check out http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hello+World for a little intro on Tiki coding.
But is there a place i should put my idea at before i start working on it?
If you post to the tikiwiki-devel mailing list, it'll be seen by the most people.
And how do i make sure someone else isnt working on a similar idea or something that will mess with what im doing?
On that mailing list, see what the feedback is. Also you can look at the subversion history of the files involved to see what the activity has been and who's committed, etc.
This is the quiet time of day in this channel, and weekends are quieter than weekdays.
ok
So at busier times you'll get more feedback here, too.
is there a better irc app than chatzilla?
free
I'm using www.mibbit.com in my browser. It works pretty well.
But everybody has a different idea of good irc apps.
i need somthing local
ohh
by the way, this channel is logged at http://irc.amette.eu/irclogger_logs/tikiwiki if you need to search or read back or whatever
What im thinking of doing might end up modifying some of the main fie\
files
because i want to add a menu to the create forum menu
sure, just describe it on the list, I'd say.
kk
maybe people also have ideas on the best way to do it, etc
the coding in this is amazing
since they're more familiar with the code
ive never seen somthing so complicated yet so easy
well, that's good to hear
lol
its just so different
i should probably dl th svn to a folder
*the
yeah. branch 3 is in beta and so only bugfixes are supposed to be committed.
For new things, trunk is the place.
branch 2 only gets security fixes.
so do my work on version 3 through the trunk?
the trunk is 3b2?
no, the branches are separate from trunk.
you can get a web view here: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/
More info here: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=SVNTips
the trunk is v4?
A branch 4 will be made from trunk, yes.
sweet
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r17921 10/branches/3.0/db/ (7 files): [FIX] fix tiki.sql for comments locking which was causing troubles on fresh installs
so do you know a way of grabbing data from another sites db server if i want to show the # of posts?
not off hand
kk
brb
gotta restart
im back
i need the svn link for the trunk
im getting errors when i try to update with http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/
To checkout trunk, it's https://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/tikiwiki/trunk
thx
this could take a while
do you know of a way to make an article from a post in a forum or vise versa?
Im surprised that the dev group dosnt use a forum insted of a mailing list
really? with a mailing list, the posts come to you. you don't have to go and log in.
(btw, there's a forum-mail list gateway feature, so it's possible to have two views of the posts)
But i have always found things can stay more organized in forum based dev groups than in mailing list dev groups
and you can get a daily digest from a forum
is there a way to put my idea into a mod or does it have r=to be part of the core?
!help
You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r17922 10/branches/3.0/ (changelog.txt copyright.txt lib/setup/twversion.class.php): [REL] Preparing 3.0beta3 release
meh
If your idea involves changing the files that display the page, like if you need to modify the template that lists forums, for example, then it'd be hard to do it as a mod, I think.
Because it won't become part of the Tiki download, and users won't want to install a mod that replaces a core file, only to have the file overwritten again at the next update.
If your idea sounds useful enough to be incorporated into the core code (and made optional, if that's logical), then it should be done there.
I guess the answer is how useful would this modification be to what percentage of users?
If only .05% of all Tiki site admins want to display forum threads from another Tiki site, I don't know if this would look like a very useful modification of the code.
If there's a way to do that using maybe a user module that can be made by the site admin, without changing the templates, that'd be a better approach in such a case.
sorry... went afk
but itt would work with tiki to point at any other forum
meh is bored from the lack of conversation
You can pose this to the list and see what the feedback is.
Good idea
I'm thinking most people won't want it in the same display as the internal forums, but would say put it in a module in the side column or somewhere. But I could be wrong.
is there any template for submitting ideas?
There's a "feature request" forum - http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=All+Feature+Requests.
Or you could make a wiki page at the dev site.
But the most visibility for developers will be on the mailing list.
Thank You
sure. it's good to get new ideas, so good luck on this.
i put it on themailing list
Is very happy to see new devos putting their ideas out in the community
And learning how to use the bot
v3.0 - While trying to select the forum list - the following error ->  SELECT `comments_locked` FROM `tiki_objects` WHERE `Type`=? AND `itemId`=?
I tracked it back to the Mysql install script not creating 'comments_locked' field
To save me some time - can anyone tell me the field properties plse
so I can alter the database now
I had the same prob
latlink, a new beta3 is coming out real quick with the fix. You can check the tikiwiki-cvs mailing list for details if you want.
ok - ta - i did check about 2 hrs ago so as not to waste anyone time
thx
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r17923 10/branches/3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [REL] SecDB for 3.0beta3
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r17924 10/branches/3.0/modules/mod-adsense.php: [FIX] fix typo in mod-adsense.php
beta3 coming out already??
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r17925 10/branches/3.0/db/tiki-secdb_3.0_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 3.0beta3
v3.0b3 - Thks Guys - Forums is fine now.
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17926 10/branches/3.0/lib/tikilib.php: rollback 17916 - this change is topo dangerous in a prelease
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r17927 10/branches/3.0/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]plugin: trim also at the end of each param cr... a plugin can be on multiple line
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17928 10/branches/3.0/styles/darkroom.css: [ENH] Menu contrast and hover improvements.
Well I've been stuffing around with tw and bw for about a week now and I still can't decide which to stick with. I keep finding quirks with both that sway me to the other. Havent worked out which things I miss out of each or prefer etc that's more important.
decision would be a lot easier if gmaps worked properly. Really love trackers in tw.
tw community seems more active and faster moving too.
Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc Channel. TikiWiki or better known as TW, is your Groupware/CMS (Content Management System) solution, you can get more infomation at http://info.tikiwiki.org/ .
(not expecting any real answers.. just venting as I've been going around in circles frustrating myself :)
spoonypjk: Been there done that ;-)
caralluna: Did you feel like buying a drawer full of sharp knives and throwing yourself onto them by the end of the week?? :)
I think it's the third time I've gone back to tw ;-) Now with 3.0 it might seem like I stay here ;-)
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r17929 10/branches/3.0/styles/coelesce.css: [ENH] Minor menu improvements.
gmaps is the big killer for me at the moment. I do need to get this site up and going pretty quickly.. I've delayed it enough (mostly because we've outgrown our current tools).. and gmaps wouldve been very useful for what we're doing. 
lol no not that bad, butr I have a BIG tendancy to go back and forth on decisions ;-)
one option is to run with tw and try to fix it myself.. but in bw that work is already done and it really works nicely as far as gmaps goes.. But the trackers in tw seem infinitely useful to me too, which bw lacks completely :)
I've had a lot of great help in the tw channel sofar too.. which is encouraging. bw channel was helpful too but people are around a lot less often there.
I want the really best of stuff, so it seems I might end up using TW for the main framework and a few other things for gallery and wiki
wiki is one of the main parts of what I'm knocking up.. and apart from WYSIWYG (which is kindof horrible).. the wiki functionality works quite well on both systems for me.
The community is one of the big good things about tw, and a large factor for keeping me here ... and trackers of course ;-)
I'm really suprised gmaps is so broken.. it would tie in brilliantly with trackers (and half does).. but no one in the tw community must use gmaps at all :(
The image gallery is nowhere near where I  want it, though is the file/image gallery under a major overhaul from what I understand
yeah from what I'm told the image gallery is getting the boot and being replaced with the file gallery and beefed up.
I am not even sure what gmaps is ... :-P
gmaps = google maps
you're supposed to be able to have a map of all users if they set their gps location. Plus create a tracker list and attach gps locations to any tracker item and then plot a google map from that..
if the new image/file gallery gets the ability to read EXIF/IPTC info that is probably what might make me change my mind
and all of that only half works.. none of the plotting actually works/saves etc. and some of the buttons do the wrong thing. So its not really useful for anything other than displaying a map with nothing on it. which is a real shame.
ah, sounds nice ;-)
I've tried having a poke around the code but havent been able to grasp how it all ties together and passes things around yet.
yeah it would be great for a bunch of things I'm working on. Definitely the users map.. as we're planning starting up a physical space and would be handle to see everyones home location. And then plotting a list of possible places to rent etc would also be handy.
Then when we're doing projects, or playing around with wireless links.. plotting those too would be useful.
yeah the image gallery definitely needs exif etc importing.
handle=handy
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r17930 10/branches/3.0/db/tiki-secdb_3.0_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 3.0beta3
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r17931 10/tags/3.0beta3/: [REL] Tagging release
Does anybody know where I can adjust the default # of options are listed? f ex in tiki-admin_menu_options.php?menuId=x the default is 25, then it gets divided into several pages .... if I want this defult at, say, at 999, where can that be adjusted? (Preferably system-wide)
polom
caralluna: : it's the general items per page thing
it used to be 10
yeah
should be about a million ;-)
tiki-admin.php?page=general
Maximum number of records in listings:
Should be next to pagination though
exactly what I wanted, thanks ! :-)
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17932 10/branches/3.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Moving __Maximum number of records in listings__ next to pagination settings.
caralluna: : dedicated to you :-)
lol
thanks :-)
I really feel like I'm making a difference here ;-)
marclaporte polom
hi!
been a frustrating week of poking around tiki & windows
the odd thing is that your install is definitely active different than mine
but there is a def. problem with tiki no knowing what directory it is running in
it appears to want to create all its folders in the root of C:
I tied & tried to understand it, but I'm going to n eed to pair with one of the installer people who really understand php
but if we ignore that for now, can you point me towards some of the problems people were having after install?
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17933 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-admin-include-general.tpl: [FIX] Move __Sender email__ to better place in admin panel. This setting is very important.
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17934 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-mods.tpl: [FIX] Correcting instructions
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r17935 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-mods.tpl: [FIX] Correcting instructions. We used to have to have fix and open. I am not sure how relevant this is anymore.
uSlacker:  no answer yet to your questions on the mailing list?
nope.  But I'm patient.  perhaps we could schedule some time with "them"
sorry to do this, but gotta run