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[02:22] <mib_ylmsyd> hey luciash I got it working.  after taking a break I realized I hadn't cleared the cache.  As soon as I did it all showed up.
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[06:39] <xavi1> "polomorning" (C) luciash, :-)
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[06:53] <Tikiwiki|bot>  New Forum Posts: update from 2.1 to 2.4 - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=32847
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[08:11] <xavi> mmm, it seems some of the icons under ./lib/images/icons where no showing the pen in the icon (the .png ones, compared to the .svg ones)
[08:54] <xavi> I'm creating the new icons for ODF files, in .png and .svg
[08:55] <xavi> however, I see that current icons in png don't have all the details as their .svg counter parts (beyond the faulty pen in all the document ones)
[08:56] <xavi> I wonder whether I need to restrict the amount of colors in the pngs, or something similar, instead of just saving (exporting) the svg file into png
[09:14] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18336 10/trunk/lib/images/icons/ (abw.png doc.png htm.png html.png rtf.png sxw.png xml.png): [FIX] fixing missing "pen drawing" from the png icons, respect to their correspondent svg files
[09:21] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18337 10/trunk/pics/icons/mime/ (13 files): 
[09:21] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: [FIX] Adding new 16x16 icons for the ODF mime types, from Pete Harlow:
[09:21] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: "Permission to use and/or modify these images is granted for the identification
[09:21] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: and promotion of the OpenDocument Format (ISO 26300 and any later version
[09:21] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: published by OASIS or ISO) provided you acknowledge me, Pete Harlow, if someone
[09:21] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: asks." http://opendocumentfellowship.com/icons
[09:25] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18338 10/trunk/lib/images/icons/ (8 files): [FIX]Added my own version of the bigger ODF icons for the file galleries in .svg and .png, similar to current icons in the same folder, and with the promoted ODF icon on them from Pete Harlow.
[09:26] <xavi> anyway, committed, I wish some expert in .png format can check that their are 100% fine 
[09:27] <xavi> they look fine to me, but I'm not expert, and I still wonder why most icons in svg have more gradients and effects than their png counterparts
[09:43] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18339 10/trunk/lib/images/icons/ (12 files): [FIX] Some more hand-made icons for some new file types that imho they were missing
[10:10] <xavi> ok, next: learn how to make something optional with some setting in some admin panel, etc....
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[11:38] <xavi> chibaguy: hi. If yuo have a min. could you have a look at a tiki3beta4 site using modified thenews theme style ? 
[11:38] <xavi> The display is awful under IE6, and it blocks the browser...
[11:38] <xavi> http://intercanvis.net
[11:39] <xavi> I thought it might be related to the effets of the slideshow shown in there... but on http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Tiki3 I added the same slide show, and IE6 can see that page pretty well...
[11:40] <xavi> I wonder where the problem is (if in any of the few modifications of the css I made, importing thenews.css and changing some colors, or elsewhere... (some usage of plugins in lateral column...)
[11:41] <xavi> with FF everything seems fine.... But I had reports from 4 different people, from 4 different computers (and they seemed to be using IE6 all, I guess), that their browser got stuck, and that they couldn't see the page well....
[11:42] <xavi> or luciash, if around
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[11:48] <xavi> marclaporte or amette: filegals folder in doc.tw.o server is not writeable by apache
[11:49] <xavi> so that no user is able to upload images for the documenation!
[11:49] <xavi> or whoever has access to doc.tw.o server (community server?)
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[12:20] <ricks99> hi all :)
[12:24] <luciash> polom ! :)
[12:25] <ricks99> moloq
[12:27] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18340 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-admin_modules.tpl: [FIX]module: assign button ion tab2 must go in tab1
[12:28] <luciash> xavi: the slideshows need to be done to stop (no looping) otherwise they eat all the bandwidth if someone keeps them looping
[12:28] <ricks99> @sylvieg: no way to make the tab switch automatically? whenloading the module to edit?
[12:28] <luciash> ohertel reported yesterday
[12:28] <sylvieg> ricks99: ???
[12:29] <ricks99> ur last commit (admin-mod)... i hit that yesterday
[12:30] <sylvieg> oh sorry perhaps I forgot to svn up..
[12:32] <ricks99> nvr mind. *me* that forgot to svn up
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[12:53] <xavi> luciash: ok. what should I do, then?
[12:54] <xavi> I can disable the slideshow at the tiki3 page, even if it's nice to "demo" it...
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[13:07] <luciash> you can show it in shadowbox instead ? but if someone doesn't click away to close it it's the same, hmm
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[13:17] <chibaguy> xavi, sorry, I was away from computer.
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[13:18] <chibaguy> I see what you mean. ie6 freezes up, at that site.
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[13:19] <chibaguy> the last file indicated as transferring is in lib/slideshow/, but I don't know if slideshow is what's causing the freeze.
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[13:21] <mib_wpx0kz> does tikiwiki have support for embedded Google Finance charts?
[13:23] <xavi> ok, thanks for checking chibaguy
[13:24] <xavi> luciash: after lunch I'll try to make small version of those (or other) pictures, and if too much smaller, try again, or even host them somewhere else
[13:24] <xavi> it's going to be nice to showcase the slideshows for a week, at least, after 3.0 release time
[13:24] <xavi> ok, luch time, bbl
[13:24] <marclaporte> mib_wpx0kz: : that should be easy
[13:24] <chibaguy> it would be good to check if ie6 freezes up with other themes also.
[13:25] <chibaguy> or if it's due to something other than the themes.
[13:25] <marclaporte> mib_wpx0kz:  do you have an example of what Google Finance chart provided? (snippet of javascript?)
[13:25] <mib_wpx0kz> could someone help on the Google finance charts?
[13:25] <mib_wpx0kz> sure 
[13:26] <mib_wpx0kz> http://www.google.com/finance?chdnp=1&chdd=1&chds=1&chdv=1&chvs=maximized&chdeh=0&chdet=1241184355477&chddm=1173&q=NYSE:BRK.A&ntsp=0
[13:27] <chibaguy> mib_wpx0kz, are there any examples of these charts being embedded at sites (not at google.com)?
[13:28] <chibaguy> I mean is this already being done by other web apps/sites?
[13:30] <mib_wpx0kz> http://www.wikiwealth.com/research:emci
[13:30] <mib_wpx0kz> the chart is on the far right
[13:31] <ricks99> @min_wpx0kz: it is just a google gadget...
[13:31] <ricks99> simply complete the gadget UI to get your chart...
[13:31] <ricks99> then use tiki's JS plugin to add the script
[13:31] <ricks99> very easy to do
[13:33] <mib_wpx0kz> can you give me more detail?  how do i complete a gadget UI?
[13:34] <ricks99> http://www.google.com/ig/directory?synd=open
[13:34] <mib_wpx0kz> ok, so if i want this gadget and here is the source: http://hosting.gmodules.com/ig/gadgets/file/113570023379904426818/StockCharts.xml
[13:35] <marclaporte> or related: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Interaction
[13:35] <mib_wpx0kz> and i have the JS plugin installed
[13:36] <mib_wpx0kz> do i simply paste the source code onto a wiki page?
[13:36] <ricks99> no. did u complete one of these: http://www.google.com/ig/directory?synd=open&cat=finance
[13:37] <ricks99> 1. click ADD TO YOUR WEBPAGE button
[13:37] <ricks99> 2. complete the ui
[13:37] <ricks99> 3. you'll end up with somehting like <script src="http://www.gmodules.com.......
[13:38] <ricks99> 4. in your tiki wiki page use JS{file="http://www.gmodules.com....") /}
[13:44] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18341 10/branches/3.0/doc/devtools/ (5 files): (log message trimmed)
[13:44] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: [ENH] release scripts: lot of improvements for main release script (doc/devtools/release.php). Main changes are:
[13:44] <CIA-46> tikiwiki:  * main script now handles update of changelog.txt, copyright.txt and README files (with their own steps and report)
[13:44] <CIA-46> tikiwiki:  * interactive mode is a bit more intelligent and don't propose to commit if there is no changes
[13:44] <CIA-46> tikiwiki:  * using the php program that called the release script, instead of just 'php'
[13:44] <CIA-46> tikiwiki:  * now propose to delete the tag if it already exists (useful if a particular release gone wrong and has to be redone quickly)
[13:44] <CIA-46> tikiwiki:  * PHP syntax check should not fail on Segfaults anymore and now displays a percentage progression
[13:44] <mib_wpx0kz> ricks99: it didn't work for some reason, here is the code i pasted in th ewiki page JS{file="http://www.gmodules.com/ig/ifr?url=http://hosting.gmodules.com/ig/gadgets/file/113570023379904426818/StockCharts.xml&amp;up_Symbol=BRK-A&amp;up_Duration=1y&amp;synd=open&amp;w=290&amp;h=200&amp;title=&amp;border=%23ffffff%7C3px%2C1px+solid+%23999999&amp;output=js") /}
[13:45] <ricks99> {JS(file=>"......") /}
[13:45] <ricks99> pls see docs for details on js plugin: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/pluginjs
[13:48] <ricks99> q: is there still no way to "mass approve" plugins? im testing 2.x -> 3.0 for smarties and i have 100s of plugins :(
[13:49] <marclaporte> ricks99: : you know that with pluginHTML, you can simply just put the code directly 
[13:49] <marclaporte> in 3.0
[13:51] <ricks99> gr8. no more need for custom plugins. allows any/all html syntax?
[13:51] <marclaporte> yup
[13:51] <marclaporte> but need validation of course, everytime anything changes
[13:52] <ricks99> wow. real time saver
[13:52] <marclaporte> sorry about lack of mass validation though
[13:52] <ricks99> is that not a blocker for upgrades?
[13:52] <ricks99> imho
[13:52] <marclaporte> I have no one available to fix
[13:53] <marclaporte> I have no choice
[13:53] <marclaporte> only affects unsafe plugins
[13:53] <marclaporte> and these plugins were not "official"
[13:53] <marclaporte> so very few people use
[13:53] <marclaporte> we can tell people to expect these consequences
[13:54] <ricks99> :(:(
[13:54] <marclaporte> and hold off upgrade if necessary
[13:54] <marclaporte> I know it's not ideal. 
[13:54] <marclaporte> But what do you propose?
[13:54] <marclaporte> That and other important things are on list. And no one has time/skill to fix
[13:55] <ricks99> upgrade should not change "state" of any existing plugins (imho)
[13:55] <marclaporte> ok, so what do you propose
[13:55] <marclaporte> ?
[13:57] <luciash> xavi: the problem is not if they're big or small but when they loop for whole day in someone's browser tab it's pretty lot of traffic anyway
[13:57] <marclaporte> Do you propose that we delay the release?
[13:57] <ricks99> i dont know how hard to fix... by default any plugin already on the wiki page  should be "approved" -- only when changing an existing plugin should the approval process be used
[13:58] <ricks99> at a minimum, there needs to be caveat in the relnotes that a lot of stuff may appear "broken" after the upgrade
[13:58] <ricks99> (i mean, just look at doc.tw.o)
[13:58] <mib_wpx0kz> ricks99: thanks for the help and sorry to bother again but i have the syntax correct and the chart isn't displaying: {JS(file="http://www.gmodules.com/ig/ifr?ur<x>l=http://hosting.gmodules.com/ig/gadgets/file/113570023379904426818/StockCharts.xml&amp;up_Symbol=BRK-A&amp;up_Duration=1y&amp;synd=open&amp;w=290&amp;h=200&amp;title=&amp;border=%23ffffff%7C3px%2C1
[13:58] <mib_wpx0kz> is it something to do with the file name?
[13:59] <marclaporte> mib_wpx0kz:  the <x> is added
[13:59] <marclaporte> mib_wpx0kz:  you need to use 3.0
[13:59] <ricks99> tiki sanitzation :)
[13:59] <ricks99> does using file=>"...." make a difference?
[13:59] <mib_wpx0kz> sounds good
[14:00] <mib_wpx0kz> 3.0 still comes on may 4 correct?
[14:00] <marclaporte> unless someone convinces to delay :-)
[14:00] <mib_wpx0kz> ricks99: the '>' didn't make a difference
[14:01] <ricks99> :( will need either a custom plugin or use 3.0
[14:01] <mib_wpx0kz> would you recommend me upgrading to 3.0 beta 
[14:01] <mib_wpx0kz> or just wait for the final to come out
[14:02] <ricks99> sure (as long as you dont have 1000s of existing plugins) :)
[14:02] <luciash> mib_wpx0kz: use %72 instead of the r in "url"
[14:03] <luciash> iirc :)
[14:04] <ricks99> luciash to the rescue!
[14:04] <ricks99> r these the complete 3.0 release notes? http://tikiwiki.org/ReleaseNotes30
[14:05] <xavi> luciash, ok, I'll disable that slideshow on doc.tw.o/tiki3
[14:05] <mib_wpx0kz> luciash: still no luck with {JS(file="http://www.gmodules.com/ig/ifr?u%72l=http://hosting.gmodules.com/ig/gadgets/file/113570023379904426818/StockCharts.xml&amp;up_Symbol=BRK-A&amp;up_Duration=1y&amp;synd=open&amp;w=290&amp;h=200&amp;title=&amp;border=%23ffffff%7C3px%2C1px+solid+%23999999&amp;output=js")}{JS}
[14:06] <xavi> and chibaguy: I'll test with another theme style
[14:06] <xavi> marclaporte: do you have access to doc.tw.o server?
[14:07] <xavi> filegal/ dir is not writable by apache, and images (files, since 3.0) can not be uploaded to documentation pages...
[14:07] <marclaporte> xavi: no
[14:07] <xavi> :-(
[14:08] <marclaporte> Redirect Loop
[14:08] <luciash> mib_wpx0kz: weird, i don't see any other sanitization there
[14:08] <marclaporte> Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.  when deleting a tag   http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?delTag=import
[14:09] <luciash> is the &amp; correct ?
[14:12] <mib_wpx0kz> yep, that is correct
[14:20] <mib_wpx0kz> there isnt anything else that stands out either
[14:24] <xavi> slideshows removed from doc.tw.o/tiki3 page
[14:24] <xavi> and uploaded screenshot as an attachment to the page
[14:25] <xavi> ^ luciash: concerns from ohertel => fixed
[14:25] <luciash> xavi: thank you, ohertel will be happy i guess
[14:25] <xavi> ok
[14:30] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03axold * r18342 10/branches/experimental/workspaces/templates/tiki-admin-include-module.tpl: [FIX] Again fixing some merge problems
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[14:42] <ricks99> are only *specific* modules supposed to trigger the "approval"? 
[14:42] <ricks99> im seeing it on "safe" plugins (such as MODULE)
[14:46] <xavi> chibaguy: I enabled the switch_theme for anonymous on http://intercanvis.net , changed to feb12, and I can see the site with no problems (except for slideshow acting weird)
[14:46] <xavi> but at least, the content of the modules can be read, rss feeds can be read also with readable font , etc.
[14:46] <xavi> it might something related to thenews.css in conflict with some of its usage on that site?
[14:47] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03axold * r18343 10/branches/experimental/workspaces/ (57 files in 14 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 18332 to 18339
[14:48] <xavi> btw, chibaguy, and the bars from the stats plugin (from tracker data) are showing all together as a single bar (with thenews, on the side, they were cut in two lines, for me)
[14:50] <chibaguy> I'm looking now, xavi.
[14:50] <xavi> thx
[14:51] <marclaporte> ricks99: I put approval necessary on all modules. As there is no way (yet) to discrimate. And some modules can be too powerful
[14:54] <chibaguy> xavi, ie6 locks up before I can change the theme, so I can't actually test other themes there in ie6.
[14:54] <xavi> ah :-)
[14:54] <xavi> well, ie6 on GNU/Linux does allow to change the theme style...
[14:54] <xavi> I'll chage the default for you for a while
[14:54] <xavi> hold on...
[14:55] <chibaguy> Apparently the problem is something that's in the page, that I don't usually test for, since I've been checking all the themes in ie6 along with the other browsers.
[14:55] <chibaguy> All the themes are a bit less attractive in ie6, but the do function.
[14:55] <chibaguy> the -> they
[14:56] <xavi> done, check now
[14:56] <xavi> using strasa as default right now
[14:57] <chibaguy> ok, I killed the frozen ie6 and restarted .... ;-)
[14:58] <chibaguy> hmmm, it gets as far as loading slideshow lib files and freezes up again.
[14:59] <xavi> ok, so slideshow must be the responsible...
[14:59] <xavi> slideshow from motools, afaik, as jonny told me
[14:59] <chibaguy> which slideshow is that, or how is it being put in the page?
[14:59] <chibaguy> ah
[14:59] <xavi> I put that in the page from the slideshow from a file gallery within the same site, inside an iframe, and shown in the home page
[14:59] <chibaguy> ok, I'll do more testing, focussed on that.
[15:00] <xavi> I'll test with the other slideshow jquery based, as jonny told me 
[15:00] <chibaguy> that would be good.
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[15:07] <xavi> chibaguy, it doesn't work as I expected from what I read from jonny
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[15:09] <xavi> I thought that when you disabled motools, the slideshow in action would be the one from jquery (cycle plugin, afair). But I got no change after disabling mootols and  shadowbox
[15:09] <xavi> so, no idea
[15:10] <xavi> chibaguy: could you try this other page instead: http://intercanvis.net/Mercats
[15:11] <xavi> it's just a homepage of a structure 
[15:11] <chibaguy> ok, that page displays without problems in ie6.
[15:11] <xavi> under the intercanvis_thenews.css the contents from the toc can't be seen on ie6
[15:12] <xavi> and with other theme styles, it's displayed ok
[15:12] <xavi> even with original thenews.css
[15:12] <chibaguy> although the top of the page is messed up. The login form lies on top of the menu, and the background colors are bad.
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[15:14] <chibaguy> (the site header area is loaded with potential problems imho due to trying to use the default tpl files and place items with absolute and relative positioning.
[15:14] <chibaguy> (I'm beginning to think more that way.)
[15:14] <xavi> well, ok, no problem, chibaguy. it's a problem with my customization and when under ie6
[15:14] <chibaguy> I mean especially in strasa.
[15:15] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18344 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: notice
[15:15] <xavi> did you try changing to intercanvis_thenews.css?
[15:15] <chibaguy> The poll module looks good in ie6 - continuous color bars.
[15:15] <xavi> yes 
[15:15] <xavi> but the toc can't be read in ie6
[15:15] <chibaguy> I'm switching the theme now.
[15:16] <xavi> here I mean: http://intercanvis.net/Mercats
[15:16] <xavi> ok
[15:16] <chibaguy> Mercats displays ok overall, but the center-column text is seriously broken.
[15:17] <chibaguy> it's only dotted lines on my screen in ie6.
[15:18] <chibaguy> ...as if the outline were compressed top to bottom. The "text" area is only 150px tall or so.
[15:19] <chibaguy> 'Documents' displays ok. (tiki-list_file_gallery.php)
[15:19] <xavi> the same on mine: just striped lines
[15:20] <xavi> with big bullet points/signs on their left
[15:20] * marclaporte just notices mouseover over categories in category picker (very cool!)
[15:20] <chibaguy> yes
[15:20] <chibaguy> the images on Ajuda display correctly, but the text is bad again.
[15:21] <chibaguy> so it seems to be specifically a problem of the text in wiki pages.
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[15:21] <xavi> chibaguy: and specifically on the crappy theme I made from thenews.css (thenews.css shows fine all the text)
[15:22] <chibaguy> On qui+som, more text is displaying, but there is still some overlapping.
[15:23] <xavi> ok, no problem, chibaguy. thanks for feedback, it's time (some day) to update intercanvis_thenews to tiki3 theme style
[15:23] <xavi> I'm just using the customization I made from thenews in tiki 2.x
[15:23] <xavi> thanks heaps . At least there is not that problem with thenews.css from tiki3
[15:24] <chibaguy> ah... "* html #tiki-center {  	font-size: 0.1em;" in your stylesheet. That's a bit small, I'd say. ;-)
[15:24] <xavi> back to learning how to make th advanced search optional and with html entities
[15:24] <xavi> ah, thanks you got it (however it was working in tiki 2.x)
[15:25] <chibaguy> Try removing that line or changing to font-size: 1em maybe.
[15:25] <xavi> there I go...
[15:26] <chibaguy> That should fix the text problem, but the slideshow problem is still a mystery.
[15:26] <xavi> ok, no problem. I'll remove the slideshow from the home page
[15:28] <xavi> btw, chibaguy: how do you clean browser cache in ie6? 
[15:28] <xavi> (I feel like a newbee in ie)
[15:28] <chibaguy> hm, let me check (also not too familiar)
[15:29] <xavi> ok got it
[15:29] <xavi> fixed
[15:30] <luciash> chibaguy: r u going to add the article separators for strasa ?
[15:30] <xavi> tools > internet tools > temp. files from internet under general tab > clean files...
[15:30] <chibaguy> ah, yes, just found it here too. 
[15:31] <chibaguy> I can, luciash. What do you think, just a horizontal line or something?
[15:31] <xavi> chibaguy: last test (not urgent at all). if you can test with your windows ie6 the slideshow in thehomepage
[15:32] <xavi> on ie6 on gnu/linux, I see things decently well, right now, except for the slideshow doing some weirdness. But at least the browser is not blocked 
[15:32] * chibaguy just notices image thumbs have "missing file" icons instead of images in ie6, on tiki-list_file_gallery.php?view=browse&galleryId=1 etc.
[15:34] <luciash> chibaguy: yes, just something like that
[15:34] <chibaguy> ok, I'll do it. Nothing too big and dark blue of course ;-)
[15:35] <luciash> or the azure color of the line under header ?
[15:35] <chibaguy> that'd be good
[15:35] <chibaguy> xavi, same problem on the homepage (I hope I'm not seeing a cached copy)
[15:35] <xavi> chibaguy: http://intercanvis.net/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?view=browse&galleryId=6 works fine
[15:35] <xavi> the galleryId=1 is not existing for anonymous users
[15:36] <chibaguy> No, I meant at my site.
[15:36] <chibaguy> sorry.
[15:36] <xavi> ok, slideshow, I'll definitely remove it from the homepage
[15:36] <xavi> chibaguy: 
[15:37] <xavi> chibaguy: ok, I mean
[15:37] <xavi> thanks
[15:37] <chibaguy> I want to check your gallery with ie6 as soon as it gets restarted.
[15:39] <chibaguy> oh, yours works. why doesn't ie6 like my thumbnails? ;-)
[15:40] <xavi> who knows... gd's being tricky on the server?
[15:40] <xavi> different type of jpg or other image types?
[15:41] <chibaguy> I just have 'normal' .gif and .jpg files.
[15:42] <chibaguy> image gallery thumbs are visible.
[15:43] <xavi> no idea, then
[15:43] <chibaguy> but in my file gallery, the mouseovers on image file names also have the missing-image icon.
[15:44] <chibaguy> well, if they work for you, then the feature works, so probably some local problem I need to check.
[15:48] <chibaguy> When I check the properties of the 'missing' image and get the url, then paste the url in the browser to try to see the image, I get a fatal error:
[15:49] <xavi> oups
[15:49] <chibaguy> Cannot redeclare _pear_call_destructors() (previously declared in /usr/lib/php/PEAR.php:775) in ...tw3/lib/pear/PEAR.php on line 806
[15:50] <chibaguy> which may be a clue for someone.
[15:50] <xavi> :-) not for me, sorry
[15:50] <chibaguy> or me
[15:50] <xavi> this looks like the same problem we hit when we attempt to setup multitiki akira (tikis in subfolders): redeclare error...
[15:51] <chibaguy> ah. in my case the error message resulted from a url like tiki-download_file.php?fileId=3&thumbnail
[15:51] <xavi> chibaguy: about the color bar errors for polls (or plugin tracker stat, like in my case): do you know how to make them look a single bar?
[15:51] <chibaguy> in ie6
[15:52] <chibaguy> It seems like they are wrapping due to being wider than the module box.
[15:53] <xavi> mmmm, yes, I thought so (even if they showed up ok under ie6). 
[15:53] <xavi> however, see this uner Firefox, for instance: http://intercanvis.net/tiki-index.php?page=Stats
[15:53] <xavi> using full width of page, and same cut shown
[15:54] <marclaporte> xavi: : you will like this one: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=2470
[15:55] <chibaguy> yes, also strange in opera
[15:56] <xavi> marclaporte: what I like is the program you seem to use to produce youru screenshots with those red circles/lines with shadows below them! :-) 
[15:56] <xavi> and about that item reported, yes, that might be useful :-)
[15:56] <chibaguy> for now, you could try putting an inline style in your poll module data like <div style="overflow:auto">put the poll info here.</div>
[15:56] <xavi> ok, chibaguy, I'll try right now
[15:57] <luciash> xavi: install Shutter
[15:57] <marclaporte> xavi: FastStone
[15:57] <chibaguy> ...which should put a scrollbar at the bottom of the poll results and hopefully allow the bars to go as wide as they like.
[15:57] <marclaporte> it's very nice
[15:57] <xavi> luciash: I did, and it didn't meet my needs
[15:57] <luciash> oh ! :)
[15:57] <xavi> I'm still doing those things by hand with gimp
[15:58] <xavi> luciash: and when I donnot need red circles, etc, I use to end up with ksnapshot (faster, less number of clicks for taking snapshots, renaming, etc.
[15:58] <luciash> i'm pretty happy with that or Abduction! FF add-on
[15:58] <xavi> abduction! with such a name... :-)
[15:59] <luciash> heh
[15:59] <xavi> I may try one day (not today, that I will disperse too much )
[15:59] <luciash> but shutter does nice red circles ;)
[15:59] <xavi> not shadows, afair
[16:00] <chibaguy> bbl
[16:00] <xavi> marclaporte: I agree: category picker now is nice and handy
[16:06] <luciash> xavi: you're right, no shadows
[16:07] <xavi> and FastStone is closed source, afaik. SO I stick with gimp, nowadays that I have those shortcuts for many of may common tasks
[16:08] <xavi> moreover, luciash, good news with gimp: many disperse plugins have been bundled together in a package in Ubuntu 9.04 repos
[16:08] <xavi> like batch processing images (through GUI), and many others (panorama, etc.)
[16:08] <luciash> great
[16:08] <xavi> no more manual compiling on those plugins
[16:09] <xavi> you can use gimp to reduce and turn and change reslution or image type with hundreds of files in a go
[16:09] <xavi> fyi
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[16:12] <marclaporte> Faststone is cool because capture, annotate and email in easy steps
[16:17] <marclaporte> latest version even does video1
[16:18] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18345 10/branches/3.0/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX]tracker: a computed field can use some fields that are not in th REQUEST - so prefill the computed array on what exists in the database
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[16:30] <xavi> chibaguy: <div style="overflow:auto"> dowsn't solve the problem with the bars.
[16:30] <xavi> http://intercanvis.net/stats still showing some broken color bars for the plugin stat
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[16:46] <chibaguy> xavi, try <div style="white-space: nowrap"> instead of overflow:auto.
[16:47] <xavi> chibaguy: thanks, I'll try
[16:47] <chibaguy> The color bars are just three images with nothing to force them to stay on one line.
[16:47] <xavi> did you know that plugin iframe, when you set heigth to 100%, it doesn't work? 
[16:47] <xavi> it does, however, with width=100%
[16:52] <chibaguy> right, that's how iframes are in html.
[16:52] <xavi> ok
[16:55] <xavi> well, yes, that works, but the page become far too wide :-) http://intercanvis.net/tiki-index.php?page=stats
[16:55] <xavi> I'll try in the right column module
[17:00] <chibaguy> I thought you meant to try in the module..
[17:00] <xavi> chibaguy: It didn't work either: module becomes too wide, so that it's not displayed properly
[17:01] <xavi> ok, not so important, we can skip it
[17:01] <xavi> I know that you are in charge of many more important things before tiki3 release
[17:01] <xavi> thanks for testing and feedback, chibaguy
[17:01] <chibaguy> ah, in the center column, the white-space:nowrap also prevents text from wrapping, which is not good.
[17:02] <chibaguy> There should be something specific controlling the way the image-bars are put together.
[17:02] <chibaguy> ...which seems to be lacking.
[17:03] <chibaguy> I don't remember this problem in earlier tiki versions.
[17:03] <xavi> ok, forget it. (it's funny, though, that it's displayed ok in ie6
[17:03] <chibaguy> specifying 100% widths in *litecss-based themes can be tricky, I noticed.
[17:04] <chibaguy> I guess due to how the column divs are floated. Some browsers don't seem to know "100% of what?" or something.
[17:05] <xavi> ok, thanks. not so important
[17:05] <xavi> ...for me right now, I mean
[17:05] <xavi> I'll leave it as it is now
[17:05] <chibaguy> yes, but good that things are being explored like this.
[17:06] <xavi> glad to help
[17:06] <xavi> by testing
[17:06] <chibaguy> time to sleep here. cya later.
[17:06] <xavi> ok, g'night
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[17:06] <xavi> and thanks again :-)
[17:06] <xavi> 1 sec. late :-)
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[17:14] <jcyrisse> morning everyone!
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[17:16] <jcyrisse> has anyone used virtual currency with their tiki site as a means to stimulate user participation?
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[17:27] <xavi> jcyrisse: virtual currency? like this? http://cc.tikiwiki.org/Community+Currency ?
[17:27] <jcyrisse> i guess more specific, has anyone developed a module for assigning virtual currency to user post ratings?
[17:27] <jcyrisse> sec, let me check that out
[17:28] <ricks99_> like score and karma?
[17:28] <jcyrisse> well, yes, i think so...
[17:28] <xavi> jcyrisse: search for score feature also, on doc.tw.o
[17:28] <jcyrisse> ok
[17:28] <jcyrisse> and long time no talk to...i have been working too hard :)
[17:30] <jcyrisse> xavi...yes that looks like what i am looking for...i think
[17:30] <ricks99_> u can assign a specific "score" for specific activiies
[17:30] <xavi> keep in contact, then, since we (in several exchange markets in Barcelona/Catalonia) want to use it once some tiny things get fixed
[17:31] <xavi> e.g. currencies can not be deleted right now, and transactions cannot be  edited/reverted, etc.
[17:32] <jcyrisse> so, is there a place where i can see this demonstrated?
[17:32] <xavi> but double check the score feature, because it might be what you are looking for instead (they are different features)
[17:32] <xavi> jcyrisse: not for production, yet
[17:32] <jcyrisse> got it
[17:32] <xavi> we (I, mostly) are using it internally here: http://intercanvis.net
[17:32] <ricks99_> userlist on tw.o shows score
[17:32] <ricks99_> http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-list_users.php?offset=0&find=&sort_mode=score_desc
[17:33] <xavi> to record transactions (time invested) against the admin (which is me, so far, also)
[17:34] <xavi> some communities used to exchange time for goods, in exchange markets
[17:38] <jcyrisse> yes...that is kinda what i am looking for
[17:38] <jcyrisse> to encourage use...so they get something for their time or interaction that they can use to either purchace something, or gain something on the site
[17:40] <xavi> ei! welcome jcyrisse then! I'm not the only one aiming to resurrect that old mod! :-)
[17:40] <xavi> jcyrisse: where are you from? 
[17:40] <xavi> or your community/group where you want to use this type of feature?
[17:43] <jcyrisse> i am based out of texas...my site is http://www.cytopathnet.org
[17:45] <xavi> jcyrisse: errrrr, you should upgrade your site asap: "Tikiwiki v2.0RC4", to latest 2.x (2.4 right now) -> security holes patched
[17:45] <jcyrisse> yes...last time i had some issues with my upgrade...i am in process of doing that today
[17:45] <xavi> :-)
[17:46] <jcyrisse> lol...i am the group of ONE...
[17:46] <xavi> I did write some hours ago the page "upgrade 2.x to 2.latest"
[17:46] <xavi> see it under http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Upgrade
[17:46] <xavi> HTH
[17:46] <jcyrisse> k
[17:47] <jcyrisse> the score system is good...in order though to encourage use other than just a score, if the contributor can earn currency to either by something online elsewhere, or to be able to purchase something on CYTOPATHNET i think it might be more successful...or at least maybe more encouraing
[17:48] <xavi> sylvieg , FYI, at Hello+World tutorial, I see: "missing page for plugin INCLUDE"
[17:48] <xavi> jcyrisse: +1
[18:02] <sylvieg> dev.tw is very slow
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[18:23] <ricks99_> in 3.x, when viewieng poll results, what does "with span consideration" mean?
[18:23] <ricks99_> nothing in docs
[18:41] * SEWilco2 thinks "span consideration" is what a bridge architect does.
[18:42] <ricks99_> he he he
[18:42] <ricks99_> i thought maybe it was a typo -- tiki can automatically filter out spa*m* voting
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[19:28] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r18346 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: French Translation
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[19:51] <gezza> hi! I made many imporvements to the hungarian translation of TW and would like to commit it to 3.0. I read that I should ask for access here, can someone help me? what info do u need from me? thanks in advance
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[19:58] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18348 10/branches/3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]tracker: warning if use an attachment field when tracker does not use attachement
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[21:01] <marclaporte> gezza: : great!
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[21:01] <marclaporte> gezza: : what is your SourceForge username?
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[21:22] <xavi> hi again
[21:22] <xavi> I want to give a try to add as optional the setting of advanced search feature
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[21:23] <xavi> but I don't know where the "if" clause whould go, whether in smarty or in php
[21:23] <xavi> I read something that tpl shjouldn't have the logics of the program any more...
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[21:36] <CIA-46> tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18349 10/branches/3.0/templates/ (tiki-view_tracker.tpl tiki-view_tracker_item.tpl): [FIX]tracker: do not show file field is no perm to attach
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[21:43] <xavi> sylvieg? I'm learning to make a new setting optional, following the hello world hints, but it doesn't work for me (yet). 
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[21:44] <xavi> I've added a new pref. value in tiki_preerences tble "feature_search_default_adv"
[21:44] <xavi> and in one topl , I want to add a conditional statement, like: {if $prefs.feature_search_default_adv eq 'y'}do this {/if}
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[21:45] <xavi> but it doesn't work. feature in db says "n", but "do this" is done
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[21:48] <xavi> mmm, ah, ok, it's without the "pref." part...
[21:48] <xavi> "prefs."
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[21:52] <sylvieg> doc.tw.org is still completly dead for me
[21:54] <xavi> ? it's working fine for me
[21:54] <sylvieg> :-(
[21:54] <xavi> just visited doc.tw.o right now, and it loaded quickly => ?
[21:55] <SEWilco2> Perhaps you meant to say "dead to me"?  :-)
[21:55] <sylvieg> I am Frecnh ;-)
[21:56] <xavi> mmm, sylvie, doc.tw.o says that you are an "online user" right now
[21:56] <SEWilco2> doc.tw.o took several seconds, but worked.
[21:56] <sylvieg> je prefererais parler francais ici mais le public serait bien plus limite
[21:56] <sylvieg> I begin to suspect firefox - if I have too many open windows ...
[21:56] * xavi mises mibbit translation features...., since he can't find them on pidgin
[21:56] <SEWilco2> Oh, I'm not logged in. .. and logged in I also got a response.
[21:56] <sylvieg> thanks for your answers guys
[21:57] <xavi> np
[21:57] <SEWilco2> me francais no existencie.
[22:00] <sylvieg> if one day I speak English correctly I stop to work on tw and become a math teacher ;-)
[22:06] <xavi> :-)
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[22:11] <xavi> sylvieg, luckily you speak "php". I need help (newbie here):
[22:12] <xavi> if you can, see this: http://pastebin.com/m21bc520d
[22:13] <xavi> the feature $feature_search_default_adv is as "n" in the database
[22:13] <xavi> I see the module search_box, without the checkbox selected. fine
[22:14] <sylvieg> first rule ... when you do not understand - indentation
[22:15] <xavi> I search through the empty field for searching, in that search box module, without clicking on the checkbox, and when I see the result in tiki-searchresults.php, then the checkbox in the module search_box appear as checked (!)
[22:15] <xavi> ok, I'll apply the first rule :-)
[22:15] <sylvieg> checked="" is strange - could it be checked="checked"
[22:15] <sylvieg> nooo
[22:16] <xavi> ok, I'll test without anything
[22:16] <sylvieg> wondering about checked=""
[22:16] <xavi> yes, that was it
[22:16] <xavi> :-)
[22:17] <xavi> ok, next step, how to add a checkbox to some admin panel... I'll keep reading the Hello+World :-)
[22:17] <sylvieg> checked="" is the same than checked="checked"
[22:17] <xavi> ok
[22:20] <xavi> oh well, I stil haev something wrong somewhere. I changed the value in the db for that pref from "n" to "y", but no change... (cleared cache) 
[22:20] <xavi> ok, the full code for my hacked search_box is here: http://pastebin.com/d34679cfa
[22:21] <sylvieg> so you want your setting in the page content to be shown in the module?
[22:23] <SEWilco2> sylvieg: I guess if you start to speak English correctly we'll have to confuse you to prevent you stopping work on TW. :-)
[22:23] <franck> sylvieg: check #tikiwiki-monitor if a tw site is down
[22:23] <sylvieg> you probably should use $smarty.request.boolean
[22:24] <sylvieg> boolena for the php world can not be known like this in the tpl world
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[22:24] <xavi> sylvieg? mmmm, I don't understand the need for {if $boolean eq 'y'}. I took it from the logins from search_page_new
[22:24] <xavi> ok, I'll try wothout the {if $boolean eq 'n'}
[22:24] <franck> sylvieg:  we keep a watch on tw site on #tikiwiki-monitor
[22:25] <sylvieg> the boolean is set in the php right?
[22:26] <SEWilco2> Does nagios mention all the names in the channel so everyone's message flags get turned on?
[22:26] <sylvieg> so either you need in the php to smarty->assign the boolean to be known in the tpl world
[22:27] <sylvieg> either - because I think it is the case, it is in the URL - so you can use the short cut $smarty.request.boolena
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[22:28] <jcyrisse> how do i know if my database is updated? 
[22:29] <jcyrisse> i am having some issues with my host...and the tiki install not recognizing db username and password
[22:30] <xavi> sylvieg, how should I write this in module search_box: http://pastebin.com/d5e56a2b2 ...?
[22:31] <xavi> ... in order to make: by default: look at the setting $feature_search_default_adv in the database
[22:31] <xavi> if yes, show the checkbox as checked, if not, then not
[22:31] <sylvieg> 2 separate problems 1/ no idea - I run the  upgrade script each time I have doubt 2 usually hosting prefix user /db name with soething
[22:31] <sylvieg> s/e/eq
[22:31] <sylvieg> line 5
[22:32] <xavi> arrrgh, you are right
[22:32] <sylvieg> s/boolena/smarty.request.boolean
[22:32] <xavi> thanks, trying
[22:33] <sylvieg> did you implement somewhere feature_search_default_adv
[22:33] <sylvieg> either it must be a prefs
[22:33] <sylvieg> prefs.feature_search_default_adv
[22:33] <sylvieg> or it must be smarty->assign somewhere
[22:33] <xavi> no, just learning...
[22:34] <xavi> I wrote it as prefs.feature.... but it didn't work. so that I removed the prefs
[22:34] <sylvieg> ok - to define a prefs you have a couple of steps to do..
[22:35] <sylvieg> but do you need a prefs?
[22:35] <sylvieg> is it not because boolean is set
[22:35] <xavi> well, marclaporte wanted this advanced search and help as by default to be optional
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[22:35] <xavi> I comitted in trunk in way in which is not optional
[22:36] <sylvieg> ah! in the module box
[22:36] <xavi> yes
[22:36] <xavi> well, I'll try again tomorrow.... it's late here (bed time). thanks for feedback, sylvieg, I'll try again tomorrow evening probably
[22:37] * xavi is slow learner... :-)
[22:37] <sylvieg> and I have to update Hello worl - not sync with 2.0
[22:37] <sylvieg> but you try - and it is the best...
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[22:42] <marclaporte> search weights: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=1633
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[22:43] <marclaporte> jcyrisse: : in very recent versions of 3.0, Tiki will warn you in tiki-admin.php if db is out of date
[22:43] <marclaporte> in sql error messages as well
[22:43] <sylvieg> marclaporte: only on 'labelled version
[22:44] <marclaporte> labelled?
[22:44] <sylvieg> that is a release a candidate...
[22:44] <sylvieg> not comparing the svn
[22:44] <jcyrisse> i transferred files, and overwrote...was upgrading from a 2.04 or something like that to 2.4
[22:45] <jcyrisse> but, cant seem to get to screenshot to prompt for database update
[22:47] <jcyrisse> should i upgrade to 3.0?
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[23:04] <marclaporte> sylvieg: : http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-searchresults.php?highlight=test&where=pages&search=Go  
[23:05] <marclaporte> tiki_p_search is given to anon, but we have error
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