luciash:  and in strasa, text is missing altogether
yup, must be strasa's tpl thing
any developer here?
unzip in file galleries have utf broken
(brb)
luciash: did you get profiles working yet?
hi
food was good?
yes found lp after a bit of searching!
marclaporte: yep, working
MatWho: : HEHE
hey you built 3.0 is there some more I can do or is it too late
getting late but not too late
did equation thing get fixed
not yet
ok looking ...
that would be good
cant find Plugin Equation page on doc.tw.o - need an example of its use to test it
MatWho: : ok just delete if you can't fix
we have lots of issues
still looking at code ..
so we must timebox 
anyone can help with some bugs?
Dsc fixed many things in admin panels but there are still issues
MatWho: : formula plugin is much less important than other things
if you can't fix, delete and move on
fixed - well removed error
what next
admin panel
on clean install
# tiki-admin.php?page=login feature_show_stay_in_ssl_mode
# tiki-admin.php?page=metatags
# tiki-admin.php?page=community 
^^^
Several admin panels tiki-admin.php?page=xyz are displaying incorrect feedback about which features are turned on/off 
tikiwiki: 03matwho * r18411 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_equation.php: [FIX] path to equation/class include file
a second new committer today: sthibault-php
MatWho: : do you see problem?
luciash: are you struggling with css?
yes in metatags looking at code now ...
marclaporte: nope
sthibault: : everyone
everyone: sthibault
sthibault : is with me at TikiFest
tikiwiki: 03sthibault-php * r18412 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: Profiles => profils
congrats sthibault!!  1st Tiki commit
Took a few years but Marc has finally won me over... with some beer ;)
hahahahhahahahha
sthibault is normally a MediaWiki user :-)
If you are curious: http://wikielegance.com/
and tiki version: http://wikielegance.com/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=TikiWiki+Consultant
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18413 10/branches/3.0/lib/smarty_tiki/block.add_help.php: [FIX] Advanced Search Help icon: do not follow the link on click + enhancement: use Shadowbox to display the help when Shadowbox is on
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18414 10/branches/3.0/templates/ (3 files): [FIX] 1-Fix some doc links 2-Add/fix help strings. (sorry to translators but English was confusing)
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18415 10/trunk/ (7 files in 4 dirs): 
tikiwiki: [ENH][FIX] send email to validate account when creating new users:
tikiwiki:  * New mail templates, more appropriated
tikiwiki:  * If user has also to change its password, don't send temporary passwords by mail but ask him to choose a new password as soon as his account is validated
tikiwiki:  * Do not consider that the password is wrong when user has refreshed the validation page by mistake
tikiwiki:  * Fix checkbox status for 'must change password' and 'send email to validate...' when editing existing users
MatWho:  need help?
you can review some earlier related commits
ok but still not sure what is wrong looking ...
commit revision 18226 
^^^ an example of how Nyloth fixed something similar
do you see problem?
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18416 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] fixed "invisible" I forgot my password link
marclaporte: in the profile you suggested to me: Permission denied. You do not have permission to read complete articles.
in 10 minutes, I will delete share plugin
tiki-read_article.php?articleId=1
ok, can you add the perm in the profile?
no clue
in wiki page
which profile?
tiki-list_articles.php also have a problem: You are not logged in. Go to Login Page
Collaborative_Community
ok, add here: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Community_Permissions
read_article should be moved to Anonymous
that simple
hmm, "Anonymous users can read article headers but are encouraged to register to read complete articles and to participate"
so is it an intended feature ?
I say change it
most common use cas is anon can read artciles
ok
we can keep that feature for a newspaper profile later
ss
marclaporte: sorry cant see what is wrong - will look tomorrow too late here
do you see problem?
or not see what is problem in code?
can not see what is wrong in code
ok
marclaporte: ok, edited it
gotta go
bbl
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18417 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_share.php: [FIX] Removing this plugin because of Fatal error: Call to undefined function wikiplugin_submit() in /home/demotw/3.0/mysql/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_share.php on line 87
thanks Luci!
any soliders left?
and it is the best version by far
marclaporte: found problem commit fix now
yay!
Wow, a commit plus I found a real live "working" bug in the same evening! I think my work here is done :-p
tikiwiki: 03matwho * r18418 10/branches/3.0/templates/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Metatag threadtitle, imagetitle and freetag prefs not shown on admin page
its 3 am here so off to sleep do rest of them tomorrow
marclaporte: we need to "absolutely feature freeze" 3.0 for a while now to get all the bugs sorted
Matthew: we have been in absolute feature freeze for a while now
we just lack bug swatting brainpower
one million lines of code
polom
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18419 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_mouseover.php: [FIX] moving mandatory plugin parameters to the top.
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18420 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-site_header_login.tpl: [FIX] Adding a space before register link so it looks ok in all themes and when CSSs are deactivated
tocotoc
class="reflect" on images rocks!
good meurning!
hi Beestje
hello xavi!
polomorning
toctocmorning lucias
s/lucias/luciash
hola xavi
:-) is it you speaking Catalan or is it mibbit? ;-)
Catalan or Spanish, of course, btw (and maybe "or some other similar lang)
it's me :)
:-)
I got tired of waiting for chmod/chown filegals in doc.tw.o and I shifted that setting to store images in db
so I started updating some pics
hmm, that's dangerous
in a minute you'll see new images (with the nice reflect effect!) in homepage
dangerous: well, there where no files in file gals
and new images will be saved in file fals
i mean it will eat a lot of db resources
so that new images are stored in db ...
oh, well, do you have a phone number from amette, or other way to contact him? (or get a username and pass from doc.tw.o?)
yes i do but couldn't you just change path ?
to files/
yes, I could
so that, we leave them there from now onwards?
(it's the default i think)
I thought there was a way to safely move images from files to db and the other way round
not sure, maybe only one way
ok, I'll change path to files/
these images are pretty ugly, yup :)
best would be something to fit strasa or icons we use
I agree luci.
for the time being, homepage updated with some new icons
cool
at least better than before, imho....
xavi: just give anonymous perms to view gallery files pls ;)
:-D
oh well, I was reusing an old file gallery created by another user time ago...
... and I didn't notice that that file gal had object perms...
... removing them right now
and I'll check that global perms are ok
now they appear
ok
however, I've changed the path to the files...
and I expected the files to disappear, unless admin filegals oes the job of moving them to the new folder,....
that would be very clever... 
much cooler pics, still i would recommend use of antialiased png files on white bg
these jaggy edges drive me crazy ;)
the what?
I need to learn how to do that :-)
unskilled newbie playing with images here...
heh, in gimp you don't convert them to indexed palette but keep in RGB (which is 24bit)
which one?
you don't need transparency
at doc.tw.o for the icons
I had many problems in gimp to keep white bg for the exclamation mark one, so that I ended up converting the svg to png through inkscape, the only way it workded for me
oh, but inkscape shouldn't do such jaggy edges on the transparent image a t all
well, depends where you got the icon
luciash: could you please add a page in doc.tw.o for "contributors/authors/..." on "png best practices" using gimp or inkscape?
sure, that would be helpfull i think, but not today, too busy :-/
I got the icons from openclipart-0.18 (openclipart.org)
ok, anytime before 4.0 :-)
some icons were only in svg (like exclamation mark), some other came already in svg and png (most of them)
if you send me these files i can export nicer from inkscape quickly
there I go...
let's see if pidgin can do that through irc
i doubt
i'll start my jabber client
ok, I go to your jabber account, then
ok
do you want me to send you the svg files, or the png?
svg
(svg's, I guess)
hth
bbl
yes, it helped, luciash :-) cheers
re
xavi: but don't use the &preview mode, use &display instead, otherwise you get JPEG thumbnail version
see http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=1&preview vs http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=1&display
ok, just copied the syntax from the file galleries
I'll change that on doc.tw.o homepage
module last_articles is not showing all articles :-/ (at least, in doc.tw.o)
neither in homepage, nor in http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Module+last_articles 
this article, for instance, is not shown: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/art19 (from march 2009)
oups, plugin module seems to require approval (!). Can it be dangerous or unsafe???
rss shows them all right...
I?ll change module last_articles for the rss feed http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-articles_rss.php?ver=2
tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r18421 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: [ENH] Less agressive and more consistent with other translations
hello all
i recentley re-downlaoded tikiwiki, and chose a theme, eaton
i'm noticing a strange filename, before copying the theme files over
in particular: sicustomcode,tpl 
this coming from a freshly extrated zip template file, from the official repo
is this a tragedy waiting to happen?
can anybody with trac access open a bug for this, or notify the owner of the theme, if this is a bug?
thanks.
what version of tw are you talking about?
the bug is relative to the theme
to eaton
download eaton, unpack, and point your filemanager to the templates/styles/eaton/ directory
sethxx, "sicustomcode,tpl" shouldn't have a comma; it should be a .tpl file. The purpose of that file is to hold some default content that can be input by the site admin in the custom code textarea on the Look & Feel admin page.
The file can either be linked to or its content copied and pasted into the admin textarea.
I used this method to provide some custom code for some themes in Tiki 2.
hi chibaguy how are you?
Hi MatWho. I'm fine thanks.
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18422 10/mods/trunk/themes/eatlon/templates/styles/eatlon/sicustomcode.tpl: [FIX] File had incorrect name.
I guess the blog template got straightened out ok?
sethxx: yes
made commit yesterday
sorry chibaguy yes
That's ok; glad it got sorted out in the end.
great
glad i could help
chibaguy: yup i fixed it for strasa tpl
copying tpl files is not very good, because it is difficult to ensure fixes get to all the copies in each theme. Did not check if any other themes need fix.
MatWho, I agree. But Strasa was designed without thought of how the template displays the page parts, and these parts diverge quite a bit in Strasa from the other themes.
So the challenge was either to modify Patrick's design closer to what the default blog page is like, or try to rearrange things entirely in css, or give strasa its own tpl files in a few cases.
yes it is just important to remember to check each time we update .tpl files
Didn't want to do the first, out of respect for the design, and couldn't manage the second reliably in all browsers, so fell back to the third.
yes I am sure you made the correct decision. 
Coelese has some of its own too for the same reason.
Heh, I hope so, but it's been a learning experience. ;-)
Also I need to provide more and better docs for such things, so it's no so opaque.
yes that would be good, but maybe we should adopt a convention to put a comment in the original file that we have made a copy and where we put it.
Looks like you guys have all been hard at work; I had to be away from the pc all day today.
good idea.
I know this would involve making a commit on the original file but it would be worth while to keep this under some control
doc.tw is very slow for me
chibaguy: is coelese well tested?
xavi it is because art19 has no language
Well, also make it better known that when a bug seems to be theme-specific, to also check if it has .tpl files.
sylvieg: ah... 
hi sylvieg 
pretty sure ... if one day I can have doc.tw answering...
hi
mm, depends on your standards, I guess. ;-) Coelese has some unique layout things as it came from the ui-revamp branch, which are still showing some minor problems in the page header area, last time I checked.
xavi: perhaps the behavior should be if no lang specified for the articles -> should it alqways...
sylvieg: +1
it's been confusing for some time this morning to me
Also it has a couple of tpl files of its own.
so there's potential for trouble.
(I should say Coelesce's page header was fine for quite a while afaik, but then in the last few days is displaying a bit strangely.
which I'm trying to track down.)
btw - good news - I can use profiles now - it is a bug in apache - apache does not load your dns servers if they are  added after apache was started - I only have to restart apache after each reboot :-)
(My opinion about theme-specific templates: the bad part is the duplication and possibility that updates will be missed. The good part is that the layout can be more straight-forward and consistent in all browsers....
....positioning absolute/relative is a minefield, imho, esp. when trying to support ie6 & 7.)
Time to eat here. will be back soon..
another bug http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-edit_translation.php?id=19&type=article I can not set the language to en
just forget about IE6 it is no good, not your fault
:)
fsck
http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?edit_mode=1&parentId=15 gives WSoD
:(
it means creating new file gallery fails
on tw.o
at least
nobody cares, i put in image gal
I do care, but don't know how to help
default thumb size is not applied in image gals :-/
have to fill in and rebuild thumbnails now
it would be nice if ohertel svn up tw.o again
I am on tw.org
on unbuntu where a re the apache logs?
sylvieg: /var/logs/apache2
s/logs/log/
the last one is [Sun May 03 20:01:15 2009] [notice] child pid 17969 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)
but I do not know how to svn up tw.org
php is not logged in syslog by default on ubuntu iirc
so where can i find the error?
php error ?
you have to enable php error reporting in tiki admin
if you can't modify php.ini
ah! ohertel has put tw.org unders svn before it was a copy ... so I can do a svn up
thanks sylvieg 
ok tw is svn up
colesce's site header searchbox background images are out of position since a day or two ago. Any ideas what might have happened?
chibaguy: matter of setup ?
luciash: can you open skype for a sec.?
chibaguy: i experienced simillar theme difference in articles when comments are enabled... maybe it's simmilar when you have something off and the others have it on you don't notice until enabled
I?m sending you an image
xavi: sure
ah, luciash, I realize it's because 1.9to2.2.css's #sitesearchbar has 5px padding...
...so coelesce.css just need to override.
easy fix
luciash: if some people have thenews as the default theme style, when logging in doc.tw.o, they see images with white bg
so that, is it ok for you if I use the transparent images?
chibaguy: i see
xavi: yup
ok
xavi: i explained how to do it in email
ah, ok :-)
chibaguy: i wonder why using 1.9to2.2 in 3.0 ?
good question, luciash. But tw.o is.
chibaguy: must be from the upgrade leftover
probably
http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-searchresults.php?highlight=test&search=Go
sylvieg: did u upgrade db too ?
yes
the bug in create fgal - is in list_users ...
weird, i get an db error on this searchresults page logged in
sylvieg: ah !
sylvieg: good detective
chibaguy: I can't see the highlighted content if using strasa.css . Do you mind if I update strasa and comit it?
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18423 10/branches/3.0/styles/coelesce.css: [FIX] Specify padding for #sitesearchbar to override in case 1.9to2.2.css is enabled.
missing highlight is usability bug
I mean, adding this: .highlight, #highlight  {background-color: #f2cd5e}
:-)
if it fixes it please commit
ok, there I go
xavi, can you just add that class and id to span.button a, etc.? (there is a list of button-like items already). Would that give correct appearance?
line 110
checking...
I'd rather group similar color items if possible.
oh well, why not highlight as in thenews?
yelllowish/orangish like
chibaguy: i don't understand
Yesterday I found #highlight or .highlight being used to indicate the "active" button on a page. I don't recall which right now.
chibaguy: no, this is just the color of the other (non-active) buttons from the version plugin
I commit highlight as in thenews.css (good and enough to me, respect to the other buttons)
chibaguy: i thought we talk about highlighting search results, sorry
so thought if it's the same color and bg as hover, that'd be good. (Sorry, I meant the :hover pseudo-class, above.)
Yeah, I don't know all instances of #highlight and .highlight, luciash.
xavi, do whatever looks good to you.
hello, i'm evaluating tikiwiki for usage in an internal project, where i would use a tikiwiki installation as a common base for various customers. It should be an installation which is exposed to the web, but where each customer only sees and has access to his private stuff, where our devel team can create tasks/discussions/file repo's, to show to the custome
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18424 10/branches/3.0/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]users: no need to look for friends when only login name is needed
main focus is on "having an open system, where everybody only sees what they have the rights to"
ok (at least versions plugin with strasa.css will highlight active button clearly)
could anybody tell me if tikiwiki is suitable for such?
Found it: <span class="button">  <a id="highlight" ..> is on tiki-browse_categories.php.
so I thought giving id highlight the same coloring as button hover would be good.
but I don't know yet where else id highlight is used.
mib_c5mrgs, tikiwiki is good for that purpose, I think.
tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18425 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] Added highlightted color from thenews.css (without color, plugin versions didn't report which was the active button)
For longer term, my idea to group highlight colors with button hover colors is to have better color coordination on a page, and also reduce the number of separate selectors to do similar jobs.
luciash: I think I need to wait for ohertel - I do not understand where the errors go..... crete gallery stop in the fetchRow in iat_users...
For this release, though, the main thing is to fix problems fast.
chibaguy: you may be right. But I couldn't find that right now, and I have too many open fires here... at least now highlight in plugin versions should work. if you know how to improve it while keeping plugin versions show a differnt (enough) color for the active button, it's ok with me
ok
also, whats the main advantage in 3.0 (beta) ?
mib_c5mrgs: start with 2.4. if curious with 3: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki3
but you still need first to master the basics, and there might be some tiny sharp corners in 3.0 still, that if you are used to the normal behavior, you identify quickly. If not used to tiki, you might be confused for some time, before identifying tiny bugs from lack of knowledge of how the system can be fine tuned, etc. 
Hi all :)
mib_c5mrgs: what you are looking for requires setting a complex permission setup, which can be done easily with tiki, once you master the permission system. 
hy nyloth :-)
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18426 10/branches/3.0/styles/coelesce.css: [FIX] Put #sitetitles inline so it doesn't act as tall whitespace under logo.
sylvieg: ok, thanks for looking into it
is it possible to have ajax on 2.4 or does this require 3.x ?
ie, the jquery integration
and ajax save
go for 3.0
k
luciash: how can I add several classes to an image: class="foo1:foo2" ?
xavi: last time i fiddled with tikiwiki i set up a forum system, which has groups assigned, enabling r/w access to member groups.
but that is only limited to forums
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18427 10/branches/3.0/lib/trackers/trackerlib.php: [FIX] simple email tracker notification: use Reply-to user's email instead of From
in this case i need single pages to have group access
can this be done?
xavi: using spaces
also, best way to get 3.x ? from the  tarball, or from svn?
also, i found it to be a nice feauture that rss feeds dont give a crap about authentication/security , do i still have to disable them globally, or has this been tackled somehow?
this back in 1.x
luciash: ok
mib_c5mrgs: permissions on pages yes; rss issue: no idea, try by yourself. where to take a trial tiki3: get tiki3rc1 from sf.net
bbl
thanks
ill check it out
luciash: didn't work for me, or reflect and the ie6 hack (img.ie6 I called it) didn't work together: you can see it in http://doc.tikiwiki.org/ under ie6 (however, not so important imho for pre-tiki3.0 release)
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18428 10/branches/3.0/styles/feb12.css: [FIX] Hover background color was missing.
xavi: you have to be sure the img syntax renders the class really on the img tag or some div wrapper instead to be applied correctly... you can try with ".foo" instead of "img.foo" only on the look and feel page
xavi: i'll quickly check doc.tw.o
xavi: is it the transparent version of the icons now there ?
img.ie6 is wrong name for class
use only ie6
xavi: also you ommited the comma on l&f > Other
xavi: test now with the doc.tw.o homepage
who change the edit plugin icon?
the {} are strnage...
sylvieg: me
sorry, i found it better than very simmilar to page edit icon
it resembles the wiki plugin syntax
(if you can draw better one which can be easily distinguished from edit page icon, please do)
and why with no {} ?
does the editplugin helper still render the hashed strings bullshit or is it fixed already ? it does on doc.tw.o still
:-/
sylvieg: without it i think it will be hardly visible and the meaning of the icon will be lost... pencil ? edit text ? wth ?
back from luch. luciash: thanks. However, I see the same grey background under ie6 for linux on doc.tw.o homepage
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18429 10/branches/3.0/styles/feb12.css: [FIX] Button hover color, etc.
anybody knows what do this mean at the end of the Personal_Blog_and_Profile: "Dependencies: - $profiles.tikiwiki.org:blog:Personal" 
Doesn't seem like doc.tw.o has the latest Strasa Cold (shouldn't be a dark blue background color above the header bg image). This shows in ie6 and is really ugly.
I mean, I can't find a page on profiles.tw.o with that name: "Personal", but maybe I?m looking for the wrong thing
chibaguy: I agree
Look at http://zukakakina.com/tw3/ in ie6, and it's quite a bit nicer.
still not great, though.
btw, I tried the Personal_Blog_and_Profile as suggested by marclaporte, and I saw many weirdnesses... and I?m wondering If I can help to improve it ... a bit lost yet with complex profiles...
(oops. just noticed strasa cold needs fixing on articles' topline and subtitle)
xavi: : what are you trying to do?
Intranet is a pretty complete profile, which should demonstrate most things
marclaporte: ok. 
I realized that homepage is not blog but a wiki page, and when logged in, blog was shown. Was that the intended behavior?
intended was for blog to be homepage
like most blogs
and to have some links (about me, etc) as wiki pages
chibaguy: I agree, much nicer. I get 4 blank popup boxes while changing theme to strasa.css, though (it might very well be an issue of the ie6 for linux)
luciash has a blog and that can serve as a model
xavi, sorry, but what do you mean by popup boxes?
marclaporte: oh ?
chibaguy: is option folder icons possible ?
marclaporte: where do you set the homepage to be a blog instead of wiki, in a profile?
xavi: you have to put custom URL
luciash, I think jonnyb said they aren't working yet.
chibaguy: ah, a pity
chibaguy: oh, well, square blank new windows, like 400 x 400: when I close one, I get another one, until four . and only when the four popup windows are closed, I get the page loaded in the background browser window
chibaguy: i'm playing with warm option now but maybe commit to trunk and delete from 3.0 ?
marclaporte: which blog you mean ?
luciash, well, maybe check with him; I might have not understood.
listed here: http://info.tikiwiki.org/Consultants
luciash : ^^
luciash: I mean, where is the custom home set in here: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Personal_Blog_and_Profile
xavi: how do you set  homepage to be a blog instead of wiki, in tiki admin panels? 
xavi: how may I reproduce your bug on calendars that displays "Events cannot end before they start" ?
about strasa warm, maybe add it in 3.1.
and delete for now.
so no risk.
oups, this channel is getting hot...
marclaporte: it's outdated and not powered by Tiki though
yes, but still an example
of what a blog can look like
marclaporte: tiki-admin.php?page=general > Homepage > Use different URL as home page: > tiki-view_blog.php?blogId=1
marclaporte: but I mean I can't see that specified in here: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Personal_Blog_and_Profile
unless it's specified in the dependancies: - $profiles.tikiwiki.org:blog:personal , which I can't find where are they set
nyltoh: I'll check and try to reproduce again
xavi: : when you manually change that, does Tiki give you feedback response?
do you have the url handy of that bug report?
marclaporte: ok, I'll try
marclaporte: yes. urlIndex
xavi: I suggest that you start with simpler things, like turning feature on & off, adding modules, setting perms, etc.
and when you can't succeed on this like this, add in !!todo at the bottom of the page
marclaporte: yes, ok, but where is that urlIndex set? I'm afraid I don't understand the dependancies
I mean, that url was set by the profile at install time
and when I look at the profile definition in profiles.tw.o, I can't see it specified anywhere
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18430 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa/options/cold.css: [FIX] Make div.articletopline and div.articlesubtitle cold.
to  me, this is real tiki magic, and not that bluish horizontal admin panel :-P
xavi: it's because that profile includes: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Blog
and what does "personal" mean, on the right of the name "blog" in the dependancies section?
The idea was that "Blog" was a mini-profile that coulde be included in many other profiles.
$profiles.tikiwiki.org:blog:personal 
anyway, ok, whatever
but maybe it would be simpler to put everything on http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Personal_Blog_and_Profile
no, no, it's fine that include thing. I just got disoriented by the syntax, that I couldn't find any page called "personal", that's all (I thought "blog" would be some category or so)
xavi: I think I've reproduced your problem. Is it really a bug or a UI problem ?
im sure this has been asked, but version 3.0 final isnt out yet correct?
nyloth: I don't remember. 
nyloth, ok found the bug report. Reading and checking...
xavi & nyloth: calendar things: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Release30process#Pushed_to_3.1_or_4.0
marclaporte: ok
xavi: multitiki for me works fine in 3
sylvieg: did you try with multitiki in subdiercetories?
tiki-install.php doesn't seem to cope with that patch. see http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Manual+installation
sylvieg: however, I found a workaround, doing things by hand, as explained in the previous page (not finished the documentation, through)
subdirectories - what do you mean I have mysite.com/toto and mysite.com/titi woerking fine
and toto,com and titi.com working fine of course too
and which user and pass do you add to login to tiki-install.php?
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18431 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa/options/mono.css: [FIX] Mono colors in article heading.
I used the link at the top that gives me the choice...
???
tikiwiki: 03aproulx * r18432 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: Franch translation
I had to switch for each multikit the button at the top
ok, I'll try again without the Akira patch in local.php (maybe that was not needed anymore)
and maybe it was the reason for the problems.... (lack of documenation after Akira MultiTiki)
I'll try after I review the calendar issue requested by nyloth
howeer as I did not rellay access to the apache setting on on site I patch my local.php 
nyloth, personal blog and profile doesn't have  a defualt calendar created. show we make the profiler create one?
sylvieg, how do you patch your local? 
sylvieg: : do you have an idea of what we should do about duplicate names in field names? In addition to tracker nanmes?  Commit #18039
is doc.tw workign for somebody.... I have always 3 mn dely when I post something
xavi: I posted on the forum my local.php
ok
marclaporte: I have no idea about the behavior... 
nyloth: ok. I see that preview loses recurrence rule. Is that right?
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18433 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa/options/warm.css: removing empty warm.css from strasa theme options
would anyone recommend upgrading to 3.0 beta or waiting until the final is out first?
sylvieg:  if you add two fields with the same name (within a tracker), the 1st one is deleted when you add the second
I posted on tw forum: 5mn  later still not finished
for the second error reported, works for me nowadays, at least. I?ll update that bug report, then
mib_bfhhcc: : depends on type of project
website with a few mods
sylvieg: i somewhat figured it out using FF FasterFox addon or Opera :-p
mib_bfhhcc: : wanna help fix bugs?   http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Release30process
marclaporte: when is 3.0 final expected to be released?
mods?
it was supposed to be yesterday
xavi http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=32786
articles on tw.o look much nicer now
mib_bfhhcc: : if you can report bugs and are not too pressed for time, 3.0Rc1 can be good
some features are very stable
User interface is much nicer
but still 15-20 bugs until I will be happy to release
sounds great
thanks
I'm wondering if 3.0 is still being planned release soon?
mib_bfhhcc: : planned for yesterday
I saw this  link http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki3  suggesting tiki 3.0 is supposed to be released yesterday, but so far nothing.
I'm not trying to be rude or put pressure, but just wondering... ;)
is it still planned to be released next few days or should I just install 2.4?
mib_ukltp5: hopefully in the following days, at the most , if not earlier (my bet)
mib_ukltp5: but you can start learning with 2.4. After a while, you upgrade, and that's it
true.... are there major interface changes between 2 and 3?
sylvieg: if ($_SERVER["HTTP_HOST"] == "toto.com" )    does it allow slashes for: 
if ($_SERVER["HTTP_HOST"] == "toto.com/site1" )  
for instance?
perhaps ... you can try
ok, I will
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18434 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-admin_tracker_fields.tpl: [FIX] admin tracker fields: use the help.png icon like everywhere else in Tiki instead of the M$ one
mib_bfhhcc: page updated: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=TikiWiki%203.0&redirectpage=tiki3
I mean you said on irc it worked to you also with domain.com/site1 doamin.com/site2
nyloth: updated http://dev.tikiwiki.org/bug2348
marclaporte: with Personal Blog and Profile, I can see this "<<<<<<< .mine =======  >>>>>>> .r18410 		" in the blog, below permalink. Is tha a known bug?
xavi: it's conflict diff
ok, I start from scratch again, just in case
thanks luciash for the info
btw, luciash, I need from your png expertise again. 
I did create new icons in png for odt file types (and others)
but they are not shown up by tiki
can I send you two files so that you can best find out what I'm doing wrong with my modified png?)
"send 2 png's": 1 for original png working fine in tiki, the 2nd for my new png not being shoen
hmm, lets try
ok, skype?
what you prefer
yes, as earlier today, then
xavi: : yes, Matthew has been informed
luciash, no problem. I see that inkscape doesn't work like gimp! changing extension at save time doesn't change image format1
marclaporte: ok, thanks
luciash: it's probably this. I'll fix later (after I try the multitiki hint from sylvieg right now)
xavi, yep, see http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/File-Export.html#File-Export-PNG
yes, yes, I know. I've been exporting as png today many files....
but some days ago, I didn't export them to make png's, I came from the gimp world, and made the confusion
:-/
s/tutle/turtle
back
xavi: Thanx. When you create a recurrent event, for example "every monday" between two dates (let say 1st May to 20th of May), and then choose a start hour that is higher than the ending hour, then there is a message "Events cannot end before they start"
nyloth: ...even if the starting and ending dates shown just before the hours are not the same day
s/nyloth/xavi/ ;)
xavi: ... but this is normal if you consider that those dates are not used in recurrence mode (even if they are shown)
xavi: ... because dates are already choosed in the recurrence rule
xavi: so, it's not really a bug, but more an UI problem
xavi: I think we just have to hide dates that are on the same lines as hours when using reccurence
xavi: And I confirm there is also another problem with the preview mode
xavi: I'll fix those two things
ok, nyloth
thkx
nyloth: if you have time today, no one else volunteered for some of the things we discussed...
marclaporte: which in particular ? I fixed XSS and am working on calendars. I will also commit a fix for the section edit on homepage
fix for the section edit on homepage  -> is that the TR thing?
marclaporte: yes
marclaporte: a fix just for you ;p
yes, that's very important. Thank you!
There is another problem. I think one thing is causing multiple bug report issues.  
you're welcome :) Well.. I'll commit it right now so you can test. I'll return to calendar code just after
there are plenty of problems you know :)
I just changed my wiki theme, and now my entire website isn't displaying. The theme was 'akwa' I believe.  Any way to revert to another theme so I can see the site once again?
http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Report+a+Bug -> if IE> >  is added
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18435 10/branches/3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] default homepage: fix section edit with default homepage
nyloth and marclaporte, fyi: on personal blog profile,  first time I edit the homepaeg, and click on the "add another image" button (http://localhost/tiki3svn/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?filegals_manager=editwiki) , the pop up window shows up with black bg.
xavi: style issue I suppose, no ?
it happened to me yesterday, and reproduced again on new install today
yes, I guess so.
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18436 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa/options/cold/cold.png: [FIX] Updated theme thumbnail to match theme appearance changes.
maybe chibaguy can have a look at it ?
and when I click on "upload file" in that screen, then everything keeps going with strasa.css theme as usual
yes, I didn't mean you, it was just a FYI :-)
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18437 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: [FIX] french translations
marclaporte: I also fixed the french problem for "Look & Feel"
I know you have put lots of time and care in file gals, and that's why
nyloth: : yay!
xavi: it's missing background color properties for that type of page
xavi: ok :)
should be easy to fix
valueb, you can change the theme preference by using phpMyAdmin to edit the tiki_preferences table of your database.
hmm, is there an easier way, I wonder...
luciash, how do you set the white bg information in inkscape? (I'm getting black bg when shown in http://localhost/tiki3svn/tiki-upload_file.php?filegals_manager=editwiki , when just uploaded to the file gallery)
valueb, what tiki version are you using?
2.4
just upgraded a few hours ago
akwa has its own versions of template files that aren't compatible with 2.4.
valueb: have you read the proper http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Upgrade page for 2.x to 3.x?
you can also try using ftp or some other tool to remove the files in templates/styles/akwa/.
Then your site will use the default template files and it may be ugly due to still using akwa.css, but at least it should display, I think.
xavi: file > document props > slide the bg color transparency to fully opaque
xavi: yes i believe i did it correctly
xavi: it's limitation of gd that it shows black bg
i actually upgraded from 2.2 to 2.4 though
valueb: ah, ok. just checking. keep in mind that there are many changes in the way themes work in 3.0 when you plan to upgrade
I'd get rid of the akwa template files first.
luciash: ok, thanks
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18438 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] strasa: fix to have white background in every body (file galleries popup)
thanks luciash! (white bg in file gal popup)
luciash, and that thuingy about sharp edges?
is this something I should do now? (I'm going to produce 10+ new png's in the following minutes)
jaggy edges ? nope, it's not produced by inkscape but by some process u used later or they were only the jpegs previews that ugly
ok
tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r18439 10/branches/3.0/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_miniquiz.php: [FIX] Mass-correct typo (thanks Marc)
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18440 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa/options/cold.css: [FIX] Bad contrast in Strasa Cold due to missing bg image (path not updated).
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18441 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-calendar_edit_item.tpl: 
tikiwiki: [FIX] calendars: do not display starting day and ending day when "reccurence"
tikiwiki: checkbox is checked, because they are not used/relevant in this situation and
tikiwiki: may confuse users + also fix the hide/show of "end duration" vs "end day" when
tikiwiki: clicking on the "duration" link. (thx xavi for reporting the problem)
nyloth: a pleasure to help to have it fixed :-)
:)
xavi: I need to fix preview too, but a bit later. Now I need to catch a train :) see you later
http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Report+a+Bug  -> anyone have any idea about "if IE>
>"
Error: No closing quotation
ok, see you
thanks Sug4r :-)
marclaporte: send a mail to the list, if important. I'm a bit overloaded :)
ok
luciash: finally it worked! new icons for ODF file types show up nice in FF and IE6 :-)
plus many more file types
.svg, .ogm, .ogv, ...
since for me this is part of a usability bug in 3.0 (they seem to be uploaded unsuccessfully with that rare/unclassified icon), I'll commit to 3.0
xavi: cool
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18442 10/branches/3.0/ (pics/help_icon.png templates/tiki-show_help.tpl): [FIX] big help icon: xhtml fixes + added missing alt and title attribute to give a hint what it is on hover, better matching icon for help from the jini iconset
btw, if you feel the crystal iconset icon was better before i can rollback
*before was better
tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18443 10/branches/3.0/lib/images/icons/ (abw.png htm.png html.png rtf.png sxw.png xml.png): [FIX]usability bug: added missing pen from 'editable document' icons
tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18444 10/branches/3.0/lib/images/icons/ (20 files): 
tikiwiki: [FIX]Added my own version of the bigger ODF icons for the file galleries in .svg
tikiwiki: and .png, similar to current icons in the same folder, and with the promoted ODF
tikiwiki: icon on them from Pete Harlow. Plus many more extra icons for missing but
tikiwiki: relatively common file types
tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18445 10/branches/3.0/lib/images/icons/doc.png: [FIX]usability bug: added missing pen from 'editable document' icons. Forgot .doc previously
tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18446 10/branches/3.0/pics/icons/mime/ (13 files): 
tikiwiki: [FIX]Usability bug: Adding new 16x16 icons for the ODF mime types, from Pete
tikiwiki: Harlow: "Permission to use and/or modify these images is granted for the
tikiwiki: identification and promotion of the OpenDocument Format (ISO 26300 and any later
tikiwiki: version published by OASIS or ISO) provided you acknowledge me, Pete Harlow, if
tikiwiki: someone asks." http://opendocumentfellowship.com/icons
hi rodrigo_sampaio and rodrigo_sampaio1 :-)
hey xavi
I can not search for a page with ':' in list pages...
s/reproduces/gets reproduced 
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18447 10/branches/3.0/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]liat pages: to be able to find a page with a :
tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18448 10/trunk/lib/images/icons/ (17 files): [FIX] Replace previous broken .png with valid ones and whitebg instead of transparent to avoid issues with ie6 browsers
tikiwiki: 03matwho * r18449 10/branches/3.0/templates/styles/strasa/tiki-view_blog.tpl: [FIX] fixed div tag missmatch and resolved snv conflict
tikiwiki: 03campbe13 * r18450 10/trunk/doc/devtools/release.php: [FIX] replace readline() func
huh, i thought it's fixed already since my commit
i committed over the top by mistake
luciash, quote plugin in strasa.css is missing. should we add something from another theme like thenews.css?
xavi: +1
MatWho: ah, ok
tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r18451 10/branches/3.0/ (lang/ca/language.php templates/tiki-mods.tpl): [FIX] correct spelling and placing of {tr} tags
Jyhem: thanks! (I already saw oddities there days ago...) :-)
mmmm, any svn guru?: should I worry if svn just says "G" (merged) my partially upgraded locally language.php file with the copy from svn?
I mean, do svn merges on "svn up" work well for you?
hey
i'm migrating an old tiki farm (with more than 30 tikis :)) from version 1.9.11 to version 2.4. until now i've found two sql issues during the migration. one related with the change of permissions in file and image galleries and other related with the user_flip_modules preference. i would like to know if there is any use if i commit the fixes to those issues to tiki_1.9to2.0.sql?
everyone: very good to see all the commits coming in!
tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18452 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa.css: [ENH] added a clearer quote plugin specification, from thenews.css
rodrigo_sampaio: : nice to see you upgrading. You should do a test to 3.0 and fix bugs!
marclaporte: im planning to migrate this farm from 2.4 to 3.0 but first we have to make sure everything is ok with ours sites on 2.4
rodrigo_sampaio: : what is consequence for users?
rodrigo_sampaio: +1 for fixing on 2.x. you never know if a 2.5 will be released, before 4.0 is born :-)
I would say yes, but I am very surprised no one found before. I have a ton of sites that will move from 1.9 to 3.0
3.0 should be able to handle an upgrade from 1.9.x too
marclaporte: from 1.9 to 3.0 going first through 2.4, I guess, isn't it?
I'd rather not
I think 3.0 should be able to cope
( I am not sure if this is the case, but I hope so)
:-) oh well, if you succeed, request anyone if not yourself to document your success case in doc.tw.o (I recently documented as id 2.x was needed before 3.0)
 Info: May 8-9-10-11, 2009: TikiFest Ottawa and online! - http://info.tikiwiki.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=59
marclaporte: yeah, I'm also surprised that no one found this before especially the issue with file and image galleries. on my sites the user gets a permission denied when trying to access the image or file gallery home. this because in tiki 2 we check for a new permission (tiki_p_list_file_galleries or tiki_p_list_image_galleries) and the migration script create this perm but does not assign then to the users who have the old permission 
rodrigo_sampaio: : I would check with Quality Team
yay for Tikibot!
marclaporte: i can send an email to devel list explaining the issue and asking for some feedback to confirm if this only a problem with my tiki farm or if it is a bug
http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Quality%20Team
rodrigo_sampaio: : +1
farms are great because you can detect problems
3.0 contains tiki_1.8to1.9.sql to maybe it can support upgrade
any devs here?
unzip feature have utf8 broken on 3.0rc1
luminoso: add it to http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Release30process
ok
this page is a lot confusing
lol
luminoso: maybe here "Deal with it now, or it'll just be more painful later"
lol
luminoso: yes, it's a work in progress (hot page), many people editting it in a quick & dirty way, but it works (easy editting of many things of different importance and urgency, etc.)
i'm new on this
using tw since 3.0beta1 
luminoso: welcome on board, then! :-)
:-)
if you want to help in the core of the debugging process before a big release, you are 1-step away from doing it in the same place as many of the developpers pushing tiki3 to its birth as stable :-)
anybody knows if you can create a symlink through ftp???
xavi, bug added
thank you
thanks to you
luminoso, in fact, the best way would be to add a bug report in dev.tw.o, and link it to that page, specially if you are not going to follow the evolution of that page... or specially for things that can be pushed away for 3.1 or 4.0
fyi
luminoso: : what is unzip feature?
when you upload to file galleries
you can zip a lot of files
and tikiwki unzip them for you
I see. Do you know if it's been reported before?
what does utf8 have to do with this?
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18453 10/branches/3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX] improved visibility of the help icon, made it using smarty icon function so it can be themed, better position of the icon for strasa theme
marclaporte, because it's only utf8 characters that fails to be parsed by tikiwiki
example "o marclaporte está armado em espertinhaço"
in the name of the file?
will result in: "o marlaporte est? armado em espertinha?o"
yes
not content
is the content of the zip file, that is unziped by tikiwiki
ok
also. even if i try to correct it on proprities
it fails
marclaporte: fyi: "The installer could not connect to the Profiles repository." in a local install
and don't change the name at all
please add to dev list and tag http://dev.tikiwiki.org/File+Gallery and http://dev.tikiwiki.org/i18n
marclaporte, are you talking to me or xavi ?
luminoso: to you
(brb dinner)
confirmed: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org doesn't load to me
hi guys !
hi wikitikiinfo
yesterday i have the problem with the website i tell..
i change to an other server..
the problem is fixes now.
congrats. wikitikiinfo
marclaporte is gone. error 500 on profiles.tikiwiki.org
it was easy. i only must change the permisson from the tiki-install.php to 644 and run also the fix...sh .
on profiles.tiki  ups..
i must also change the temp file in the php.ini
that was also wrong
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18454 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] strasa: height of the helper
and on the last database setup i miss the users  entry in it. so i make inside the php admin a new backup and take it to the new server
and after that, i can run WITHOUT the tiki-install.php the normal tiki portal entry
ALL worked. without killing the lok file and without run again installer..
oh i forget .. the database entrys.. its clear also to change that ones...
how can i change the wide from a theme file? it fits for now not in the browser when i have an computer in 1280x1024
wikitikiinfo: install the webdeveloper toolbar in firefox, and play/test editing the css file on the fly to suit your needs
i use fluidindex.css as skin and the wikis are sometimes to wide. and also the admin menue are hangs over
ok. i hear one time from this one.
play with "CSS > View Style information", and "CSS > Edit css". Web developer toolbar is a grat addon
wikitikiinfo: and if you can, please, document it somewhere in http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Documentation if ot documented already
s/ot/not
s/grat/great
ok. maybe someone should also make a page for the server change
ok, profiles.tikiwiki.org is back online
"someone" :-) you are welcome...
..haha not here..
profiles.  was online here..
i will try to document. but on one site i read i must run installer again and something...
i think it is also interesting for people to have an standard php.ini file
speacial or tiki wiki done
and also on the download site
sylvieg: your trick at local.php for multitiki works also for the case with sites in subdirectories...
i read many times, you should change the memory to 32 mb and do this and do that..
it took me "a little while" to test but yes, it works fine (much better than the old "Akira" trick)
marclaporte: why not all plugins enabled by default? (since they are safe nowadays)
and let the admin disable the ones he/she wants to disable, after he/she knows about them, and not the other way round...
what is the syntax to create side by side tables on a wiki page?  like this: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php
valueb: use the split plugin
search for it under the list of plugins
in 3.0, new install, barebones profile... wiki uses file gallery for images, but no gallery exists. therefore, user gets an error when tyring to upload a new picture. told to create a gallery first (but in the middle  of editing a wiki page) :(
should there be a default gallary?
 New Forum Posts: email validation to admin when new user signs up - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=2&comments_parentId=32868
tikiwiki: 03stojanovim * r18455 10/trunk/lib/core/test/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
tikiwiki: - a couple of bugs solved, a couple of new acceptance tests
tikiwiki: - tests work only if selenium doesn't reuse browser sessions (db seems to be cached); refresh didn't work well, need to find why.
* rick likes the new Edit Help icon, but questions the text "HELP" and flashing arrow....
ricks99: +1 for this, aswell as +1 for creating a default calendar (for the same reason; I tried under blog profile)
or... simply do not enable the "use file gallery for images" option.
for default, new install
btw, all devs: my 1.10 -> 3.0 upgrade was very smooth
tx 2 all :)
xavi: is the split plugin called something else in the mods?  i have v2.4 btw
mods?
http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Plugins <- search here
no need for mods for the split plugin
docs: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/pluginsplit
enough for today. I?ve updated the http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Manual+Installation page with the multitiki info
cheers
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r18456 10/branches/3.0/lib/smarty_tiki/block.add_help.php: [FIX] smarty block add_help: give filepath for function icon. This filepath is required when the user is anonymous
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18457 10/branches/3.0/changelog.txt: [FIX] changelog: fix release script name
back for a few minutes
trying to commit on sf
its madly slow
:(
ah, commit passed :)
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18458 10/branches/3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] calendars: fix recurrence in preview mode (thx xavi for reporting)
so, good night all
thx nylioth
sylvieg: take a break then :)
bye bye
I thought that validation while previewing was fixed
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r18459 10/branches/3.0/lib/searchlib.php: [FIX] find_faqs: fix the sql query which was broken. This should fix the problem of the anonymous users who are doing a search and are asked for a login/password (relase30 blocker)
pkdille was faster than me ... I was on it but did not have time to finish
 New Forum Posts: Sell access to wiki pages - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=32871
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18460 10/branches/3.0/modules/mod-calendar_new.php: [FIX]calendar: the module must always display a month
hello sylvie
thx pkdille - I was on the bug and forgot it...
I hope you did not too much work on that bug..
oh no - I know it was in faq...
yep..was not so easy....
ah this was the fix?
...had first to fix another bug which was introduced today :-(
yes, I think so
...if you can test, would be nice....here, it seems ok (on 2 different test sites)
so, it's time for me
...good night all :-)
thx pkdille a svn up fix my [problem
nice drems
dreams
cool !
bye
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18461 10/branches/3.0/styles/thenews.css: [FIX]thenews: to see the focus date
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18462 10/branches/3.0/lib/calendar/calendarlib.php: notice