#tikiwiki 2009-05-06,Wed

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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18503 10/branches/3.0/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] PluginTR now off on barebones install	[02:56]
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Kerin	I need to set tikiwiki up so that pages a user creates can only be edited by that user - sort of like how userpages work, but with more than a single page.	[03:35]
chibaguy	Kerin, there is a wiki admin option "Page creators are admin of their pages." But I don't know if this bans other people from editing their pages. You could check the docs at doc.tikiwiki.org, or do some testing with a couple of test users.	[03:38]
Kerin	chibaguy: that's probably exactly what I want! let me see if i can locate it. i did a pretty thorough read-through my options to avoid looking like an idiot, good to know I screwed that one up. ;]	[03:40]
chibaguy	Don't be too hard on yourself. There's a ton of options and it's easy to miss one.	[03:41]
Kerin	chibaguy: I have to! that's the best defense against getting flamed. OSS IRC channels are kind of a minefield. but, thanks. :p	[03:42]
chibaguy	Kerin, this channel is friendly.	[03:43]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18504 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-edit_help.tpl: [FIX] typo	[03:43]
marclaporte	chibaguy: : wanna fight?	[03:44]
chibaguy	ok, marclaporte, lucky you're an ocean and continent away from me. ;-)	[03:44]
marclaporte	hehe	[03:44]
chibaguy	(I won't mention who is the lucky one. ;-) )	[03:45]
marclaporte	:-) :-)	[03:45]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18505 10/branches/3.0/templates/modules/mod-users_rank.tpl: [FIX] WYSIWYCA	[03:54]
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Kerin	chibaguy: thanks for the help. seems like the wiki_creator_admin option doesn't restrict anyone from editing the page, but it does allow the creator to lock the page and that's nearly as useful.	[04:17]
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chibaguy	ok	[04:30]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18506 10/trunk/css/calendar.css: [ENH] Calendar selectors moved from transition stylesheet.	[06:37]
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mib_aptjev	Hi there	[07:04]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: File property in article section - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=32890	[07:37]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r18507 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-lastchanges.tpl: [FIX] tiki-lastchanges: reorganize filter button text because they are impossible to translate well in fragments	[08:18]
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luciash	polom	[08:48]
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DannyStaple	Hello	[09:09]
luciash	hi	[09:10]
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awolff	I have an administratioin question - on categories, permissions and groups - that I did not find an answer for at doc.tikiwiki.org. Can anybody tell me where I should post this question?	[09:17]
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luciash	awolff: try here	[09:31]
awolff	Just found tikiwiki.org and am posting a message in the forum - I can copy it to here as well, give 2-3 mins	[09:32]
DannyStaple	Quoting channel message: "Just ask, don't ask to ask".	[09:32]
luciash	better ask in short sentences here ;)	[09:34]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18508 10/branches/3.0/img/webmail/ (7 files): tikiwiki: [FIX] webmail: getting rid of the (most probably) proprietary licensed Windows tikiwiki: XP icons (finally) - replacing them with closest matches of the Jini iconset tikiwiki: (except help.gif, that one is a copy from the Silk 16x16 icons) which is used in tikiwiki: Admin sections (placed the PNGs on white bg box and made it slightly "rounded" tikiwiki: for now) - hopefully in some next Tiki major version we can have full iconset tikiwiki: themes support...	[09:42]
chibaguy	I just noticed my tiki-pagehistory.php doesn't have the "compare" columns or selector for type of comparison. The files are current. Is there an admin setting for page comparing? (in branch 3 site)	[09:54]
luciash	chibaguy: i'll quick-check	[09:56]
chibaguy	btw, http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=Home, has a "History" button at the bottom with the url I'm already at, which seems unnecessary.	[09:57]
luciash	chibaguy: they appear for me after first edit chibaguy: hmm, not a big deal to me, it's useful to "reset" the history view	[09:58]
chibaguy	um, ok. The page I'm looking at is at version 18, but there's a column on the left with delete checkboxes, and action links on the right, but no "compare" gadgets. Column headings are [Delete (button)] Date User Edit Comment Version Action And the legend at top includes "c = compare", with "c" links in each version's action cell, which is like the old way this was done, iirc. http://zukakakina.com/tw3/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=Sample_page	[10:00]
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chibaguy	ah, it's because of my "Default diff style" setting maybe (in wiki admin). yeah, that was it. I just changed it to side-by-side diff and it's how it was before; don't know how it got changed from that. Sorry for sending you checking.	[10:08]
awolff	Yesterday I tried to use wiki staging in rc1. I did not manage to aprove a page - no button - even admin. Are there any known problems with this?	[10:11]
chibaguy	I haven't tested/tried staging much myself. I'm not aware of it not working, tho.	[10:13]
Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Managing permissions with categories for large amount of groups - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=32891	[10:14]
awolff	Thats my post on categories and permission.	[10:14]
chibaguy	I think quite a few sites would like to be able to do what you are describing there. There's been discussion on improving the permissions system, so the devs are aware of the need. But at this point I'm not sure what the best solution is, for a case like yours.	[10:17]
awolff	So if I do not want to give them global permissions I have to assing individual permissions for each group to the objects?	[10:19]
chibaguy	I guess so.	[10:21]
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awolff	Thanks!	[10:31]
chibaguy	sure	[10:32]
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chibaguy	MyTiki is missing its navbar when ajax is turned on. Is this ok in the Tiki 3 release (not a blocker), since ajax is experimental?	[11:06]
luciash	the navbar is ugly anyways ;)	[11:12]
MatWho	I believe the Ajax option will/should go soon anyway. All can be done much better with jQuery.	[11:13]
chibaguy	ok.	[11:14]
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sylvieg	jquery and ajax are completly different thibgs things	[11:27]
MatWho	have a look at http://docs.jquery.com/Ajax it works very well, is extremely convenient and opens up a lot of opportunities to use jQuery plugins without confilcts	[11:29]
sylvieg	yes jquery has an implementation on ajax	[11:31]
chibaguy	I thought jquery was one Ajax framework.	[11:31]
MatWho	no its a javascript framework	[11:32]
chibaguy	(or one javascript framework that includes Ajax functions.	[11:32]
MatWho	yes	[11:32]
sylvieg	yes chibaguy	[11:32]
chibaguy	ok	[11:32]
sylvieg	but for now I think we are using mainly xajax and not the jquery ajax	[11:32]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18509 10/branches/3.0/styles/layout/layout.css: [ENH] Transitions styles checked for currency and copied to layout.css (only Tikinewt theme imports layout.css for now - other bundled themes not affected.)	[11:38]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r18510 10/branches/3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): French translation	[11:55]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03rischconsulting * r18511 10/trunk/templates/mail/moderate_validation_mail.tpl: tikiwiki: [ENH] First attempt to allow admin to add users to a group from activation tikiwiki: email. This is a bit of a hack - future changes will need to make the change in tikiwiki: the PHP template to properly set the site url and path to the tiki directory in tikiwiki: the smarty template.	[12:26]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r18512 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: French translation + get_stings to sort + revert some mistake :)	[13:11]
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mib_cmis0t	It seems TikiWiki 3.0 is imminent. Any chance that will be released this week?	[14:23]
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marclaporte	mib_cmis0t: : you can use release candidate	[14:26]
mib_cmis0t	yes. just trying to get an idea since it appears to be so close to release.	[14:28]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18513 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-calendar_weekmode.tpl: [FIX]calendar: do not show time for a full day event in week view tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r18514 10/branches/3.0/styles/coelesce.css: [FIX] coelesce: better look of the header and fix some issues with IE	[14:35]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18515 10/branches/3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]calendar: after editing an event come back to the period the event is in	[15:16]
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luciash	re-polom marclaporte: which day of the tiki-fest are you trying to re-release ?	[15:56]
marclaporte	yesterday	[15:59]
luciash	oh, did the ottawa tikifest finished already ?	[15:59]
marclaporte	no you said trying	[16:00]
luciash	i thought you plan to release it for real on tikifest ottawa	[16:00]
marclaporte	I planned to release for real last week but failed	[16:02]
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marclaporte	if we have enough volunteers, we can release sadly, this last week-end in Montreal was not enough we are very close though maybe 5-10 lockers blockers	[16:14]
sylvieg	I thought it was because of to many bugs not a question of volunteers? I still have 2 at least...	[16:15]
marclaporte	well, both but because of a personal situation, we had to reorganize things and this changed the agenda for more than one person	[16:16]
sylvieg	so this we there are a bunch of devs to fix the remaining blockers...	[16:17]
marclaporte	In that magical world, all bugs would be fixed for tomorrow And Friday, we focus on making the 4 profiles and fix the bugs only for those profiles and release Saturday then, Sunday and Monday, we prepare for our 2 conferences during the week installer is amzing now release script too so we made good progress nothing to be ashamed about	[16:18]
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luciash	exactly don't be frustrated from any release date plan fail	[16:26]
sylvieg	sylvieg still does not like release on date and not on bug control...	[16:28]
chibaguy	The up side is thinking about how many things have been fixed and improved in the last several days, makes a much better release imo.	[16:32]
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luciash	hmm, Check for Updates says: "Current version is up to date : 3.0beta4"	[17:06]
CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18516 10/branches/3.0/ (lib/calendar/calendarlib.php modules/mod-calendar_new.php): [FIX]calendar: notice that was displaying sometimes the list of events in mod-calendar_new, sometimes only the first event	[17:12]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18517 10/branches/3.0/ (lib/calendar/calendarlib.php templates/tiki-calendar_box.tpl): [FIX]calendar: make no sense to display 'all day' or a timing if in the case group by item in the popups	[17:44]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18518 10/branches/3.0/lib/calendar/calendarlib.php: [FIX]calendar: all day in popup	[17:58]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18519 10/branches/3.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX]calendar: rollback 18517: there was already a group_by_item var	[18:20]
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KingAztech	!help	[18:28]
Tikiwiki\|bot	You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .	[18:28]
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awolff	I'm using a very fresh copy of the 3.0 branch and found that it does not honor permissions on calendars. Is this a known problem? If no I can try to be more specific	[18:55]
franck	How is the wysywyg editor in 3.0, I found in 2.0 to have too many issues to be useable	[18:56]
awolff	Did not yet use it. Am currently setting up a system and try to get permissions right for various groups etc.	[18:56]
caralluna	franck: I don't useit myself, but I heard someone say a while ago it still has some issues	[18:57]
franck	yes, used in wiki mode, it messes up the formatting a lot...	[18:58]
sylvieg	awolff: the perms for calendar can have some hole(perhaps around category) ... thx for reporting	[19:02]
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awolff	sylvieg: I (think) I tried without categories and it behaved that if a user has global perms categories and object perms are ignored.	[19:15]
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SEWilco2	awolff: I patched some calendar category perm bugs a few weeks ago in 3.0. Permissions other than read/write had problems.	[19:39]
luci	hi again actually, what does "Pretty Tracker" mean ? :-p is it just a tracker which "looks good" or does it have some special meaning ?	[19:42]
sylvieg	it is way to display a tracker item or a lit of tracker items or a form to fill a tracker item - not in a talbe but as you want you have to put in youjr ' 'your template' {$f_22} whivh mean the field 22 of the item or tracker	[19:44]
luci	ah, and the template is common wiki page or wiki page content template ?	[19:47]
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KingAztech	Hi, i'm experiencing something very weird... I've uploaded tiki wiki installation files when i direct my url to it it says the page is undected i triple checked everything http://www.kingaztech.com/site/ i click on it and then nothing but when i ftp to it the install file is there	[19:58]
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SEWilco2	KingAztech: I see the normal installation "TikiWiki could not find your local.php file" page. Installer has to be run.	[20:23]
KingAztech	SEWilco2: Yes and if you click on the link it says there is no installer file	[20:23]
SEWilco2	No, it says 403 Forbidden. The web browser is not configured to allow access to /site/tiki-install.php.	[20:24]
KingAztech	yeah the tiki-install.php file is there in my ftp	[20:25]
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SEWilco2	Are the permissions on tiki-install.php set to 644? (rwxr--r--) http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Install+by+FTP	[20:28]
KingAztech	SEWilco2: yes it is set on 644	[20:31]
SEWilco2	Try a web search for 403 Forbidden for your ISP, webserver, or operating system. I don't know how your web server might be configured.	[20:33]
KingAztech	oh mmm	[20:33]
SEWilco2	It's interesting that one file is running, but not the installer.	[20:34]
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KingAztech	yeah i'm completely baffed	[20:41]
sylvieg	do we have a plugin that test if a page is in a categ and display something if yes?	[20:55]
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CIA-46	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18520 10/branches/3.0/templates/modules/mod-calendar_new.tpl: [FIX]calendar: always use tiki_date_format and not date_format	[22:31]
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