CIA-46: tikiwiki: [FIX] autosave : fix pb when user want the real content of the page and not the
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tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18527 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] strasa: login bar content vertically centered + little padding on the right side
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18528 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] strasa: .register in login bar aligned properly + removed that little padding on the right side because of it
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l4smb: I've got a crash report whenever I log into my tiki-wiki.
"Table './l4smbnet_tiwi1/tiki_blog_posts' is marked as crashed and should be repaired"
How do I repair this table?
This is on a hosted server to which I do nto have shell access, but I do have a web based mysqladmin tool available
luciash: l4smb: you can use both then, repair table table_name;
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l4smb: luciash, I would do that as an sql command?
luciash: in phpMyAdmin there's a button for it i think
but yes, in mysql console it's a command
l4smb: choose the table, then at the bottom of the table selection screen is a drop down. it has the repair option. Thanks! That seems to ahve fixed it.
Does this type of table crash happen often?
Is this an issue with MySQL or with TikiWIki?
luciash: it's combination of both, i have never seen this on other databases
you could explain it that it usually happens "when there's some huge job on the db and someone plugs the power cord off suddenly" ;)
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l4smb: hehehe
OK, thanks for the information.
now, it's time to go to work.
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CIA-46: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18529 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-editpage.tpl: CSS fix: replace "vertical-align: center" with "vertical-align: middle"
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slordjette: Here I am.
marclaporte: info.tikiwiki.org: we are unable to replace an image associated to an article
does anyone know about this bug in 2.4?
http://info.tikiwiki.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=59 -> image is unchangeable
slordjette: I upload an image (own image) and decided to upload another version after a first save
The name of the image is the right one, but it looks like it's the only thing it remembers from the second save.
And so it keeps displaying the first version, with the second file name.
marclaporte: I tried replacing by a completely different file
slordjette: And ?
marclaporte: nothing happened
slordjette: Well, should we call that a bug ?
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marclaporte: I don't see bug report: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Articles
yes, a bug but very surprising that it's unreported
Do you have a version 3.0 with articles to check?
slordjette: Yes, but it's been modified a lot...
Let me check something.
It is OK in 3.0. I confirm.
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marclaporte: hmmmm
so we just need to upgrade site
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marclaporte: http://tikiwiki.org/Sites+And+Infrastructure -> we'll add here
http://tikiwiki.org/Sites+And+Infrastructure#migrate_info.tw.o_to_version_3.0
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CIA-46: tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18530 10/branches/3.0/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] No logo in bare-bones install, as this should be handled by profiles and by asking questions (like sitetitle and sitesubtitle) in the installer.
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luciash: hmm, with no logo in default install it will look really bare-bone... will newbie know how to add his own logo without example ?
marclaporte: that is a good question
how about we make it super easy to add logo, site tite and site sub title?
like putting at the top of look & feel
luciash: next please ;)
marclaporte: and /or in the installer?
luciash: for now i suggest rollback or add a little Example as under other fields in L&F page how the path to logo image can look
marclaporte: could we put a note only visible by admin, with a 1-click link to admin panel (with anchor) to place to edit?
so we put back image
but when admin mouses over, there is a pop up or something which explains how to change?
but only for tiki_d_admin
tiki_p_admin
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marclaporte: what do you think?
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luciash: marclaporte: you mean on the logo image ?
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CIA-46: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18531 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa.css: oops
marclaporte: yes
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CIA-46: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r18532 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] strasa: simmilar base font size across browsers, codecaption to match the codelisting style of code plugin, .codelisting 90% wide, tweaked letterspacing and padding of site title+subtitle
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chibaguy: I can't delete images in the image gallery (pretty current branch 3 svn) because the url is bad: gallery2%3F%26amp%3Bremove=14
The edit url is ok for the same image.
(tiki-edit_image.php?galleryId=2&edit=14)
btw, images continue to show 0 hits no matter how many times I view them.
And a png file got a full-size thumbnail only, but I'm hoping this is due to user error (config mistake?).
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chibaguy: Even if the image galleries are deprecated, there shouldn't be regression bugs, so I'm wondering if my site has bad config or if others experience these problems.
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rimas76: Bonsoir
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marclaporte: no idea
I have to go
will be mostly in meetings tomorrow
and off to Ottawa after
keep up the great work everyone!
chibaguy: I see the galleries at tw.o have the same url, so the problem isn't just mine, it seems.
have a good trip, marclaporte.
and thanks for all your hard work, too. :-)
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luciash: chibaguy: count admin views ?
chibaguy: maybe you're admin and have this off
chibaguy: ah, good point. I'll check...
btw, I'm happing to see codelisting width: 90% works now. Some months ago I tried that and it caused huge horizontal scrollbar in FF or IE, which is why I used 500px instead.
I don't know what changed so that it works now.
I was having trouble with 100% widths in the center column at the time.
luciash: :)
chibaguy: But another question: why 12px font size for modern browsers? A step backwards?
an, IE7 has trouble with the codelisting width -- wide code just pushes the page wider, no codelisting scrollbar even with overflow:auto.
I've got to take my daughter to the train station. Will be back in a few minutes...
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luciash: chibaguy: because all modern browsers can resize it except IE6
chibaguy: so it's easier to have same size for them not depending on DPI or other percent/em related user settings
chibaguy: about codelisting and IE7 i don't know
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chibaguy: back again.
was there a problem with the strasa font size before?
(I'm wondering because all the themes avoid using px font sizes generally, except for ie6.)
and I don't see anyone advocating px font sizes on the web much.
as it's considered old style
(for codelisting, we can give ie7 it's own width probably)
-: chibaguy started the day by seeing how sucky Coelesce page header looks in IE6 now, so in a bad mood. ;-)
luciash: chibaguy: it was problem in my linux Opera with that and thenews is only one which was working fine, so i added it to strasa now too
i think all the rush about using percents or ems started with IEs inability to resize fonts defined in px :-(
chibaguy: not sure it's a good idea
luciash: it works
or does it break your strasa now in some browser ?
if yes, feel free to rollback
chibaguy: It's ok in the browsers I use/check with, but I'm not sure about the appearance on big monitors, etc.
I'm just reacting because of the criticism of pixel font sizes for years
Actually the font size in strasa in ie6 is quite uneven now - base font size is ok, article text is tiny, shoutbox text is big; I guess the rest of the font sizes in the stylesheet should be looked at where ie6 got some special size.
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luciash: chibaguy: if there's problem, please rollback
bbl
chibaguy: ok
also getting a horizontal scrollbar in FF, with new .codelisting width. hmm.
luciash: chibaguy: no horiz scrollbar in FF3 with bare-bone profile in 1024x768 screensize
(bare-bone has right column off now)
chibaguy: http://zukakakina.com/tw3/Sample_page shows a scrollbar with or without the right column.
(same screen size)
I gave the codelisting a wide line to check if it gets its own scrollbar, which it does, but the codelisting box goes over 700px wide anyway.
so I'm not sure what ff is calculating (90% of ? = 700px)
Opera is ok, btw (no scrollbar on page)
This is similar to the results I got months back when I switched to a px width for codelisting plugin.
(reluctantly)
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chibaguy: Seems like "WikiWords" option should be moved from Admin Wiki to Edit and Plugins....
as it's also used in blogs, etc.
-: chibaguy goes rrr, why is forum post text overrunning span.icons in strasa?
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CIA-46: tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18533 10/branches/3.0/styles/strasa.css: [FIX] #siteloginbar (logged-in) fix for IE6; fix comment text overlapping author info (forums, etc.), bad "Watched by categories" text contrast (thanks to xavi).
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CIA-46: tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r18534 10/branches/experimental/coe/ (lib/tikilib.php tiki-editpage.php):
tikiwiki: [FIX] htmltowiki : completly disable htmltowiki in parsing if the feature is
tikiwiki: not set
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CIA-46: tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18535 10/branches/3.0/styles/feb12.css: [FIX] Articles separated a little more, and article title size reduced a little.
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r18536 10/branches/3.0/styles/feb12.css: [FIX] button hover background fixed.
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MatWhoAndroid: hi
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chibaguy: hi MatWhoAndroid. Have you melded with a phone? :-)
oops, gone already.
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luciash: heh
-: luciash overslept deeply
luciash: or hardly ? :)
amette: welcome to da club.. ;)
"with a vengeance" :P
luciash: oooh, thank ya bro :)
amette: yw, bro :)
luciash: well, no wonder when i went to bed at 7:00am
amette: ROFL :P
that's not oversleeping then, man! :D
Not _at all_!!!
luciash: *g*
amette: :)
LordVan: hey
the default community profile needs some extra permissions definitely .. it was marclaporte who did that right?
(registered users can do hardly anything)
luciash: LordVan: you can edit the wiki page of the profile and voila
CIA-46: tikiwiki: 03nagendra016 * r18537 10/branches/3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]After a new install, in community admin page, enabling one or few options results in notes which shows information about a list of many other options that are not changed.
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MatWhoAndroid: hi
LordVan: luciash, but that wouldn't change whats in the release will it? just what's written in the wiki
MatWhoAndroid: yes if you edit the wiki page that is what all new installs will use
luciash: LordVan: no, it's being remotely loaded from there afaik...
LordVan: welcome to the "software, the wiki way" world ;)
LordVan: hehe
sounds cool i will prolly check it out later / tomorrow .. although more likely 2morrow
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-: luciash just wonders about how secure solution it is
luciash: how many people watch the changes on profiles wiki pages ?
LordVan: hehe
chibaguy: well, the perms on profile page editing could be tightened.
In fact, is probably a good idea.
especially since, afaik, there's no way to roll back a profile once it's installed.
LordVan: chibaguy, i haven't seen anything either ..
well u could del all groups and stuff
can tiki generate sitemap xml files for google webmaster tools?
chibaguy: If a site has been up for a while and lots of users and groups, etc., it'd be no fun to figure out what a complex profile did and then undo it, to get the site back where it was.
LordVan: yeah i know
i mean for new installs
chibaguy: right. I think that's the only time profiles will be useful, until there's an "undo" button.
LordVan: thats what i was thinking
or a highlight profile permissions/groups on the view or sth at least
chibaguy: I think profiles will be terrific when more complete....
about the undo especially
luciash: well, it's true that you can carefully review the YAML code before hitting the install button but some little warning about security could be added
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chubaca: Hello?
s/?/./
I am working on a customized installation of TikiWiki and today for the second time I can see any more menus (logged or not).
I don't know from where the bug comes, I find nothing similar in the tracker.
chibaguy: chubaca, do you mean menus in the side columns, or at the top of the page?
chubaca: I've turned on some features and installed the "Aulawiki" mod.
I don't have menu at the top I think.
http://chubaca.net/tikiwiki here is one of my testing installations.
(freshly installed)
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vkumar: hi gary :)
Beestje: chubaca : I only see the main menu on the left and the login box on the right. No menu in the header
chubaca: Yes, and you see exactly the same in admin.
But I don't change anything in menus, except removing the assistant.
Hum, wait.
I'm *really* fucking stupid.
-: chubaca discovered the togggle icon.
chubaca: s/ggg/gg/
Beestje: :D
chibaguy: hi vkumar
-: chubaca has no ore reputation here.
Beestje: lol
chubaca: s/ore/more/
Beestje: overlooking something is not that bad ;)
chubaca: By the way, I am working on a big project for an university in Wales. We are building a virtual learning and collaborative environment for all the country (connecting libraries, researchers, students from universities, ...).
And I choose to use TikiWiki and to integrate it with Moodle (and some other softwares).
luciash: sounds very cool :)
chubaca: Yep, I enjoy to work on that (I'm a french student in work-placement here).
luciash: great
chubaca: Are the project some web hosting problems ?
s/Are/Have/
"Has" in fact, sorry for my english :s.
I can't contact edu.tikiwiki.org.
Something is listening the http port but not responding.
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luciash: chubaca: i think edu is not on reliable server and they have some problems
vkumar: hi gary.. how r u ?? I am progressing with tikiwiki :)
chibaguy: I'm fine, thanks. nice to hear you're progressing.
vkumar: thanks.. I ventured a little bit in your teritory ' stylesheets "
I got an HTML home page template.. I converted it into a tikiwiki page by editing the tiki.tpl..
chibaguy: cool
vkumar: thanks.. now i got an idea about smarty templates and php files
I wish to venture further.. with help from you guys
LordVan: hmm weird
google webmaster tools tells me that a lot of pages that one would expect to be crawled (wiki pages , list-pages.php) are restricted by robots.txt .. if i look in there i can find no evidence of that .. hmm
ok listpages is in there missed that
ah ..
never mind
i need more coffee
it blocks tiki-editpage
not the actual pages
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chibaguy: vkumar, sure, just ask and we'll try.
vkumar: ok.. sure i will do... I wonder how such things can be given free of cost. Were the people who developed this rich enough to find time for this ??
LordVan: i somehow doubt that the tiki devs are particulary rich .. - although i do not know for sure of coruse
chibaguy: Some use tiki as part of their job at a company or organization, others just like to do it and be part of it, I guess.
vkumar: I developed the stylesheet from Nornia.. bcos the green color matched my homepage template
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CIA-46: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18539 10/branches/3.0/modules/mod-calendar_new.php: [FIX]calendar: force a table view to be sure to begin the count down at the beginning of the period
chibaguy: ouch, that's an old and not-too-efficient stylesheet.
vkumar: May be gary.. but I jsut needed the green color of the boxes
bcos i was using a homepage template
I edited the header and put my homepage header image.. so that all the pages are same
chibaguy: well, to start, whatever works is good. :-)
vkumar: :) but i don't feel proud.. bcos I stole the homepage and tikiwiki
:(
chibaguy: you can't steal tikiwiki, because it's free already. :-)
vkumar: :) yes gary.. time for me to leave.. i will get back tomorrow
chibaguy: ok
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LordVan: chibaguy, u r like the template guy aren't you?
/ theme
chibaguy: yep, my specialty, but others are doing a lot on the bundled themes.
LordVan: chibaguy, u think something like http://www.raschbacher-schlosserei.at would be easy to make as tiki with custom theme?
chibaguy, (company webpage)
chibaguy: yes, i think so.
it has the basic layout already, as far as content is concerned.
LordVan: hmm maybe i'll give it a go
chibaguy: You should be able to use the default template files in branch 3, so no need to make new .tpls.
LordVan: well i'll definitely wait for 3.0 release for that page
chibaguy: There's also a layout.css file now in branch 3, so if your stylesheet imports layout/layout.css, a lot of the non-design css is done already.
(It also has a few "placeholder" colors that you can override in the theme stylesheet.)
LordVan: hmm ic ok
chibaguy: This procedure makes it pretty fast to put a new theme together.
LordVan: i'll prolly have a look at that then ..
mind if i get back to you if i have problems?
chibaguy: I'll do some doc pages pretty soon.
Sure.
LordVan: cool thanks
luciash: amette: ping
amette: ping
err, pong
luciash: amette: can you set write on imagegals/ on doc.tw.o ?
amette: huh?
ok, done...
luciash: cannot uplaod images in image galleries now because the file path set is not writable
amette: ... why wasn't that?!?
luciash: thx
amette: aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh......... setup.sh !!
luciash: after move seems
ah
-: amette really needs to reorganize the documentroot and stuff
luciash: strasa cold option has problem with sitetitle and sitesubtitle readability
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chibaguy: I have the files in editor already if you want me to fix it.
you can check here about the color: http://zukakakina.com/tw3/
(same as other links in header top; I also thought about using #006699
sylvieg: does somebody know if Thursday January 1th 2009 is in week 52? or week 1? I thought it was 1 - but .... the tikilib function gives 52
luciash: chibaguy: definitely better than what we have now
chibaguy: what about the color of register background ?
chibaguy: can you try the #006699
chibaguy: ok
luciash: sylvieg: it should be 1
for current year but 52 for previous
sylvieg: 1 is not the first full week on the year?
chibaguy: ok, it's #006699 now.
sylvieg: .... if it is 1 ... anopther bug in aclendar
luciash: oh, nope, it should be 1, definitely
is not in 52 for 2008
chibaguy: I'll try the middle of register background after you check 006699.
luciash: last day in 52 for 2008 was 27 Saturday
or 28 for Sunday countries
sylvieg: at least my desktop calendar shows it like that
sylvieg: consult with wikipedia ;)
sylvieg: the "first" week of the year is the first one which has more than half within the calendar year
luciash: sylvieg: then you're in trouble because some english calendars start with sunday but czech for example starts on monday
sylvieg: what a mess...
ok - I will not touch tw - 01/01/09 is in week 52....
luciash: so my current calendar is english, but shows that January 1st is in the first week anyway, although Sun Mon Tue Wed are in the 2008 and Thu Fri Sat is 2009
so it maybe doesn't matter what day week starts but it's always counted Sunday is the last day of week ? weird....
interesting topic ;)
chibaguy: can you try ?
or the login button background color
it's pretty close
MatWho: we need some color difference for subsites because then user will be lost unsure at first sight at which subdomain he/she currently is... how to cope with that ?
MatWho: i vote for same Tiki logo for them with same color etc. but then we need for each a different strasa color option IMHO
MatWho: i'm getting pretty confused already where I am as we have strasa for most of them now and all of them have same favicon, etc.
chibaguy: ok, luciash, that's the middle of the register bg (#294050)
luciash: MatWho: so we needs some really clever solution
*we need
MatWho: hi
Beestje: well... for me first day of the week is monday, and 01/01/09 is in the first week of 2009... (Belgium, but it's the same for the Netherlands)
luciash: chibaguy: i think that's it ! :)
MatWho: luciash: you can have different colours, just dont change the colour of the logo.
chibaguy: ok, I'll commit it.
MatWho: it is VERY important to remove all the changes that have been made to the logo. It is very unprofesional
luciash: MatWho: you don't have to repeat that
MatWho: you can change the colour of anything else!!
luciash: :(
MatWho: but I have been saying this for 8 months and nothing has changed!! :)
did you do the logo that is in the installer for tw 3.o?
luciash: yes
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MatWho: good, can you fix all the logos/icons etc on http://info.tikiwiki.org/Fact+Sheet so they are the same color and all look as if they are from one design?
I like your logo with the wave and reflection, but it only works on a whhite background. To me the reflection does not look right on a dark backgriund.
luciash: MatWho: not right now but if you're impatient you can grab the SVG and try yourself
MatWho: wher is it?
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MatWho: i wich the bot would display the subject of a post not just the URL
wich = wish
luciash: MatWho: http://info.tikiwiki.org/tiki-list_file_gallery.php
MatWho: ok
luciash: April 29
MatWho: no permission to see it
chibaguy: MatWho, that is the subject, just in front of the url.
MatWho: oh so that is great :)
luciash: I have no permission to view file gallery :(
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luciash: MatWho: can you subscribe to the tikiwiki-artwork mailing list ?
MatWho: yes where?
luciash: MatWho: are you logged in ?
MatWho: yes
blank page
luciash: grr :)
MatWho: I know, if only today was easier. :)
luciash: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=tikiwiki-artwork
LordVan: today is the pre-premiere day of the new Star Trek Film .. it gotta suck a bit to start with ;)
so it can get better :D
MatWho: we had premier in London when you were here, apparently it is good!
luciash: MatWho: it is weird that you cannot view the gallery, the permissions are set to anonymous to view, download, etc...
MatWho: i'll send it to you directly by mail ;)
MatWho: tried anon, also blank page.
LordVan: MatWho, if i had known a bit earlier I could've seen the super early premier on the 14th
MatWho, friends of mine did see it
MatWho: yes may the force be with you - oh sorry that is the other film!! ;)
LordVan: rofl
MatWho, that one is v old though
;)
-: LordVan thinks MatWho really is DrWho ;)
MatWho: luciash: joined email group
LordVan: you are the first to get it!!
LordVan: hehe
luciash: MatWho: sent you the fonts too
MatWho: ok that should be interesting ;)
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chibaguy: I got that file ok ^^. strange.
LordVan: cya ppl
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ricks99: fyi: problems with the blog TPL (bad merge?) on tw.o
for example: http://tikiwiki.org/blog26
chibaguy: hm
ricks99: PERMALINK also wrong :(
colors also look on (FF + Win). why are the blog post icons on a colored background?
and.... Blog heading no longer parsed properly?
chibaguy: well, it's just pretty completely messed up.
heh, this is funny - my test site is messed up too, but in a different way: http://zukakakina.com/tw3/blog1
maybe a slightly newer svn revision
ricks99: does thenews and strassa use different TPLs?
chibaguy: yes, strasa has blog parts (author info, title, etc.) in different places.
sylvieg: fixed the <<< in blog
luciash: sylvieg: can you svn up tw.o again please then ?
ricks99: ty sylvieg
sylvieg: (it was my first and last time I svn up tw.org if oliver does not tell me how to do it...)
luciash: oh, what a pity, i thought we have someoen when ohertel is not here
sylvieg: luciash: I need oliver - I screw up the index.php - and perhaps other things
will send a message to oliver
chibaguy: /me in spare time has gotten Mittwoch about ready for Tiki 3...
luciash: sylvieg: you didn't screw it up... it's his fault he used file which is used in Tiki too ;) he could maybe use index.html or index.phtml for the redirect :)
-: chibaguy even
luciash: chibaguy: cool
ricks99: hm.. the "new blog posts" in the Since Your Last Visit module (on tw.o) has incorrect links
chibaguy: with color variations as theme options, and suckerfish menus, etc. - it's getting easier....
ricks99, is the rewrite encoding strange?
ricks99: no, its just ... wrong
http://tikiwiki.org/blogpost382 results in 404
chibaguy: ah, ok, I noticed an encoding problem with image gallery image remove link.
sylvieg: message sent to ohertel - as soon as I have an answer I svn up
ricks99: blog for strasa is definitely messed up. thenews looks ok, but blog heading is not parsed correctly
luciash: sylvieg: thank you
chibaguy: I suspect strasa's view blog tpl has a problem.
luciash: i wonder why Personal Blog and Profile has no tiki logo too :-/
chibaguy: i think you and matthew keep overwriting your changes
chibaguy: Where?
luciash: in the strasa blog tpls
chibaguy: ah, I didn't touch that lately
luciash: oh, i thought you fixed some closing div there recently
maybe it was me ? :-p
-: luciash is overpuzzled it seems
luciash: fsck ! it seems no installation profile has the tiki logo displayed now :-( ... it looks weird
chibaguy: revision 18406 takes two </div>s out of strasa's tiki-view_blog.tpl, which I thought was a strange fix since the blog would have been obviously broken before,
and I had been working with and looking at it for weeks, not broken.
so I'm not really clear on what was broken.
but didn't touch it since
mat said something about broken in safari, but it seemed like two extra /div s would have been a problem for all browsers.
luciash: actually i didn't get why his first "fix" removing commented out {*</div>*} would change anything but then he said it was accidental commit or something
chibaguy: I'm going to put the tags back in my local file and see how it works, in safari also.
well, I'll just grab the prefix copy...
-: luciash wonders how to reproduce it
MatWho: chibaguy: it was not just safari also FF
luciash: chibaguy: i see no broken layout in my current SVN strasa blog list and blog posts
chibaguy: strange, because I use FF daily and didn't see it as broken.
my site is probably 18 old (since last svn up)
18 hours old
luciash: only thing which is broken is the blog post header background
chibaguy: Can you please check http://zukakakina.com/tw3/blog1 ? In strasa theme....
luciash: but not layout caused by unclosed divs
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luciash: chibaguy: looks fine in Opera
chibaguy: can you add second post ?
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chibaguy: ok, that's with the pre-fix version of the file.
luciash: chibaguy: can we have the nice footer from zukakakina on tw.o sites ? :)
chibaguy: second post added
yes, it's done on look and feel page: custom bot bar or whatever it's called
luciash: ah, nice
chibaguy: I see a templates/strasa/custom_site_footer.tpl which can be {include}ed or its content pasted into the box. strasa.css has the styling for it already.
luciash: only problem in blog post is now with comments but it's not mandatory
chibaguy: when you click the title "Test Comment"
chibaguy: the comment is not displayed anymore
chibaguy: "Test Comment"?
Sorry, but time to eat here. Will be back soon
luciash: chibaguy: no idea what should this functionality do
yes, the Test Comment you have at the first blog post if you view the post using permalink
i have to go too for now
later guys
and gals ;)
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xav42: Hi
Can someone clarify a permission problem plz ?
ricks99: what is the problem?
xav42: i have a category X
this category X brings the tiki_p_view_categories permission to the group G
but for some reason, the users in group G cannot see the objects of category X
ricks99: to view the *objects* in the category, also need tiki_p_view_categorized
xav42: tiki_p_view_categorized is inherited by Anonymous
tiki_p_view_categorized is inherited from Anonymous
i'm using 2.4
is there another permission the group should have ?
ricks99: does group G inherit anonymous?
xav42: yes
chibaguy: luciash and MatWho, about the blogs you are testing with Strasa, were they created the normal way, or with a profile?
ricks99: do you have custom permissions applied to category X? (they will override the default perms0
xav42: category X gives tiki_p_view_categories to group G and also to anonymous
MatWho: chibaguy: cant remember, all we did to fix it was remove 2 DIV's that were in error
ricks99: since you are applying custom perms for cateogry X (tiki_p_view), that is overriding the defaults.
either remove the custom, or also add tiki_p_view_categorized
chibaguy: The problem is that I and many people had been using that file with no problem.
And I still can.
MatWho: well that can not be so, because the fix worked
chibaguy: Heh, well, that _is_ so.
MatWho: befor the fix it did not
chibaguy: Yes, it did.
MatWho: ok I will leave it with you :)
chibaguy: Why would I work on a theme, including the blog section, for weeks, if it was broken?
xav42: Only 2 permissions appeards in "Assign Permissions" (tiki_p_view_categories.php) : tiki_p_view_categories and tiki_p_admin_categories
chibaguy: The first thing I do is make sure the page parts are displaying correctly, then the styling comes after that.
MatWho: chibaguy: are we talking about the same thing I wonder?
ricks99: @xav42: clear the tiki cache
chibaguy: The strasa theme styling had been in progress for weeks before thart 'fix'.
MatWho: aer we talking about the DIV's that were not removed from the copy of tiki-view_blog.tpl ?
chibaguy: Yes
with those </div> tags in place, the template worked fine for me.
MatWho: what about without them what is the problem.
chibaguy: Well, I'll remove them again from my site and check.
MatWho: chstarting up my development site wait ...
xav42: @ricks99: ok it works now ! thank you for your time... I didn't know there was a 'clear cache menu'... still learning :)
ricks99: @xav42: rule #1: when in doubt, clear the cache :)
MatWho: chibaguy: SVN update from branches/3.0 and selected strassa - blog works fine for me
chibaguy: some icons have blue background but that is an easy fix.
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chibaguy: Heh, the current file messes my blog up.
xav42: @ricks99 hehe ! now i know :) thanks again.
chibaguy: so there is a discrepency somewhere
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ricks99: @xav42: more help here: http://twbasics.keycontent.org/Fixing+Display+Problems (including clearing cache)
chibaguy: http://zukakakina.com/tw3/tiki-view_blog.php?blogId=1
MatWho: so I have a good copy from SVN just did a sync to p[rove it
chibaguy: Honestly, the blog in strasa was displaying as designed before. I was working with it nearly every day, and presumably other people had been working with or seeing it in other installs.
ricks99: @MatWho: see http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_blog.php?blogId=26 (in strasa)
MatWho: chibaguy: I dont disbeleve you , just dont happen on branches/3.0 at the moment
dont see a problem with that page. What am I looking for?
ricks99: titles missing for each post, icons have blue background, blog title is not parsed correctly
permalink produces 404
MatWho: Oh that was not the same problem as before, when we fixed the DIVS the page did not display at all. This is a new one.
I get no headers on branches/3.0 as well
chibaguy: I haven't checked for involvement of if statements yet, but there are 17 <div> tags and 15 </div> tags in the file.
MatWho: looking in template file ...
what a mess :)
chibaguy: ...the indentation isn't quite right.....
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chibaguy: but this is why I asked about installing a blog via the profile manager. I saw a blog at demo.tw.o that had page layout problems that I don't get when creating a log normally...
so to cover all the possibilities, is there any chance that the profile manager could add or remove a div tag? Or is strictly activating things in the db?
I guess it could be coincidense that the profile-created blog was also messed up for some other reason, but it was thenews in that case, so the default tpl.
MatWho: looking ...
chibaguy: {if $listpages[ix].freetags.data|@count >0} doesn't seem to be closed
MatWho: but if you close it is gives blank page so counting IFs :(
chibaguy: heh, yeah
well, actually, I don't get a blank page, I get all the columns arranged vertically....
MatWho: sorted commit on the way
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MatWho: hey my SF account is not working!!
Caarrie: reset password
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MatWho: fixed, thanks Caarrie
Caarrie: yw
MatWho: bugs bugs bugs just everyware and not a drop of good code to run :)
Shakespeare + 400 years
chibaguy: did it fix it for you?
I have got to go in 10 mins.
chibaguy: didn't check yet but will soon.
http://zukakakina.com/tw3/blog1 - no, still a problem
luciash: chibaguy: with profile
MatWho: The title is there
luciash: chibaguy: i don't know what should the fix do ? now i only notice on zukakakina the test freetag disappeared
MatWho: luciash: might have broken the free tags. But got the title back see 18542
chibaguy: I turned off freetags, to test if they were involved.
my title was never missing
luciash: oh, and now the tiki-view_blog.php is broken on zukakakina !
the titles are b0rked
hmm, the title of posts was there for me
MatWho: not on branches/3.0
chibaguy: uh, that url is branches/3.0
anyhow it's fixed now for me, since I added a /div tag for no reason other than to test the effect.
luciash: MatWho: are you sure your SVN doesn't have conflicts or something ?
chibaguy: now to go back and see if there's a logic for it.
luciash: your checkout i mean
MatWho: cant see any can you
luciash: svn status --ignore-externals
chibaguy: what I thought was logical in the tpl wasn't producing the right results. :-)
ricks99: blog titles missing on http://tikiwiki.org/blog26 (running branches/30, i think?)
luciash: MatWho: do you see C or M there ?
MatWho: sorry what do you mean C or M :)
chibaguy: ah, now i have a balanced number of div and /div tags.
luciash: svn status --ignore-externals
chibaguy: but need to check the locations again
luciash: will list your files with status
C means conflict, M means modified
MatWho: oh sorry getting coversations crossed over!
doing status it is slow
sorry got to go check back latter.
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luciash: doh ! now my strasa blog is completely borked layout with the Blog profile :-p
so, what should we focus on... testing Blogs created by Profiles or testing blogs created in bare-bones install manually ?
chibaguy: luciash, is there any chance the profiles-created blog has a structural problem like an extra div or /div tag?
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luciash: i'm starting to suspect these blogs from Profiles have some wrong unclosed div in their "blog header"
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chibaguy: I know that sounds crazy, but I've noticed at least one profile-made blog had a layout problem
gotta walk the dog now. sorry. will be back.
luciash: hoew is "heading : $profilerequest:Heading$Never a dull moment!$" constructed ?
*how
i'm going to try bare-bones if it will have the same blog layout problem
wtf ?
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luciash: i install bare-bones (default) profile reading all my database will be replaced, it says all sql operations went successfully i go to my tiki expecting fresh new install but i get the old one still just without some parts and i'm logged in still !
phew, ok, now it seems to work... someone should write there in big letters that admin must first log out to re-install sucessfully with another installation profile otherwise it just messes up :-[15:47] <ricks99> cache?
it's not cache problem ricks99
i tried to delete all cache but it didn't help
ricks99: odd
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chibaguy: tomorrow i want to re-indent strasa/tiki-view_blog.tpl and then see if the /div I added still makes sense. kinda late here now so won't get to it tonight.
luciash: just testing bare-bones blog
thenews looks OK
strasa is broken :(
on tiki-view_blog.php?blogId=1
chibaguy: so i confirm it's broken and we're 2:1 against Matthew ;)
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chibaguy: well, he was experiencing some problem, so the question is to find out what to fix. I think strasa/tiki-view_blog.tpl can use some cleaning up, but...
...the fact that I and other people had been using it (displaying correctly) for weeks or months suggests the recent problem is somewhere else.
In your site with bare-bones blog, what happens if you make another blog 'manually' (the regular way)? Does it also behave differently in strasa and thenews?
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chibaguy: It'd also be good to compare the page sources...
bbl
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tikiwiki: transformation for links (external and internal) + some modification in the
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sylvieg: luciash: tw.org is svn up - ohertel gave me the instruction
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ohertel: Hello! :)
sylvieg: thx ohertel - I svn up
ohertel: =)
I adde some more comments to the small update script. :)
added
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tikiwiki: 03aproulx * r18552 10/branches/3.0/templates/modules/mod-calendar_new.tpl: [ADD]Class for the month name
ohertel: Just read that mail about allowing some advertizing on tw.o... by using <?php include> to some external servers... that idea is ridiculous. ^^
I dont do all kind of stuff to secure the server to allow people to inject cody by <?php include> .P
er ... and then allow some people to inject...
And they are located in Russia, Saint_petersburg? No way, sorry. No Russian business connection on my machine.
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ohertel: Marc, allowing people to include spam on our tiki via <php include> is no good idea. ^^
marclaporte: ah?
where?
ohertel: The mail you forwarded, from amette
the guys from Russia, St Petersburg, who offer $2000/year for ads on tw.o
marclaporte: ah yes
ohertel: I wont allow any russians to include php code on tw.o.
They will do ads like 99% of the year, and then when they need, they include some evil javascript or do other evil stuff. no way.
If you want that on tw.o, you have to move tw.o to your server, I wont host something that includes codes from other servers via <php include>
sylvieg: but banners are secure???
ohertel: Sylvie, they want us to include their stuff via <php include>
They can inject any php code they want.
sylvieg: ak ok
ohertel: And even banners can be evil, with buffer overflows and stuff. ^^
And I dont like to host links to URLs and raise them in google ranking... which I really hate to see when I do searches on google.
^^
and do you trust some russians offering money for ads, which have not even some default forms/contracts?
All the guy said in the chat is REALLY weird.
Don't tell me I am the only one seeing that. :P
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marclaporte: ohertel: thanks for reading up on the messages. luci had expressed concerns as well. We are not doing anything with this for now
ohertel: If we got a snippet of html via mail or something like once a month and someone is going to review it, it would be different... but still... that would probably advertizing that many of us wont like to see when googling... :P
...would probably be advertizing...
marclaporte: the whole aspect of ads is "on the ice" for now
ohertel: If it would be a handful of development tool ads or something then it would be different... like ads for Eclipse or Zend or such... ^^
but then still no <php include> ,)
marclaporte: If you have a bit of time
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ohertel: what for?
marclaporte: some things only you can do
http://tikiwiki.org/Sites+And+Infrastructure
ex.: adding daily tar for branches/3.0
ohertel: oh, true. ^^
Will check the list. :)
marclaporte: tks
some things for amette too
there are also phpxref things
ohertel: ok =)
Will try to do as much as possible tomorrow evening. :)
hm, didnt I do the 3.0 branch tar yet? hm...
Which version is trunk?
cause trunk tar is generated.
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marclaporte: I think none of the scripts you are running are adapted to 3.x
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ohertel: Ok, 3-0 tar available now.
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ohertel: marclaporte: tars are created now, just fixing the links and creating xref/doxygen. :)
marclaporte: yay
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marclaporte: ohertel: : at the bottom of doc.tikiwiki.org, there is date of last svn up. This helps us know if we should report something as a bug or just wait for svn up. Do you think you could add?
ohertel: what about tikiwiki.org/.timestamp? ,)
That's been there since I've started hosting tw.o and doing the tarballs. ^^
marclaporte: this is different that timestamp. It;s $lastsvnup (or similar)
hmmm
http://tikiwiki.org/.timestamp looks ok
ohertel: No I mean for NOW you can use .timestamp. :)
marclaporte: ah ok
:-)
ohertel: Till it's added somewhere. :)
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ohertel: http://de.tikiwiki.org/dox-BRANCH-3-0/html/
Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: remove refresh button on first page - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=2&comments_parentId=32906
New Forum Posts: Blogs - is there a way to create certain blogs for certain members - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=2&comments_parentId=32905
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ohertel: and xref, too. :) http://de.tikiwiki.org/xref-BRANCH-3-0/
ok, tarballs and docs getting updated for 2.0 and 3.0 by cron, all else from that page I will have a look at tomorrow.
marclaporte: ohertel: I have a favor for a new script.
But I don't know if it's a big favor
or just apt-get easy to do
It's for promotion and project management
One of our strong points is our community and the huge activity
so for promotion, I would like to point to stats about our activity level
for project management, I would like to able to see who is doing code in which areas
I am wondering if we could have http://www.statsvn.org/ (or similar) to give us regulat svn activitity stats
we used to have something a few years ago, managed by Lorinc, but the script was eating up 2 gigs of RAM because there are so many commits
ohertel: Hm, as we dont have the svn on tw.o server but only checkouts ... hm...
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ohertel: bah, sourceforge only has very general stuff like that. :-/ http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/detail.php?group_id=64258&ugn=tikiwiki&type=svn&mode=60day
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ohertel: marc: will have a look at what we can do.
marclaporte: thank you!
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SEWilco2: ohertel: I don't know how it gets the stats, but I point out http://code.google.com/p/svnplot/
luciash: sylvieg, ohertel : thanks :)
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marclaporte: SEWilco2: : tks
sylvieg: btw ohertel: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?edit_mode=1&parentId=-1&galleryId=0 is blank page - and I found no erreor no where ...
SEWilco2: I suppose parentId -1 makes sense for galleryId 0.
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KingAztech: Hi, I've installed Tiki and activated the blog
how can i make it so that people without a account can view it?
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