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jonnybnkoth3 & MartinCleaver: how goes? i'm more or less done in [00:06]
MartinCleaveram waiting for nkoth3 [00:06]
nkoth3i am still figuring out the structure checkbox not refreshing thing
it seems so simple, yet so difficult 		[00:06]
jonnybjonnyb finds the addition of $params = preg_replace("/^'(.*)'$/", '$1', $params); in wikiplugin_img.php line 92 fixes my image problem [00:07]
nkoth3i think I am going to give up on the structures fix for now. It does categorize... it's just that it takes the user another click on the name of the structure to see the effect
looks like a mysql query cache problem
ok MartinCleaver... give the packaging a go 		[00:08]
MartinCleaverMartinCleaver svn ups [00:12]
CIA-65tikiwiki: 03mrjc * r18801 10/branches/3.0/doc/devtools/ (release.php tikirelease.sh): allows for pwd with spaces in (for my mac) [00:13]
MartinCleaverMartinCleaver is running php release.php 3.0 rc2 [00:14]
nkoth3jonnyb: need to think more about that... ideally we should not be using single quotes at all unless they are in fact apostrophes (permissable say in image descriptions?, in which case they should be encoded?) [00:15]
jonnybnkoth3: they were allowed in 2.x, hence my several hundred instances [00:16]
nkoth3but your preg_replace only picks up at the beginnign and end
so well.... 		[00:16]
jonnybyes, i did start & end just in case [00:16]
nkoth3sleep over it and maybe we can put in in final [00:16]
jonnybindeed [00:16]
nkoth3I think we are at the stage where "sleeping over it" helps :) [00:16]
jonnybi'll dl the new baby tho and check it unpacks ok, then zzzs [00:17]
nkoth3k, hang on [00:17]
MartinCleavertaking ages to update copyright from sf [00:17]
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CIA-65tikiwiki: 03mrjc * r18802 10/tags/3.0rc2/: [REL] Tagging release [00:23]
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MartinCleaverok - back in 20. Food's on the table. Sorry! [00:31]
nkoth3k
jonnyb
sorry 		[00:32]
jonnybfading, i think i'll check it out tomorrow - no probs [00:33]
nkoth3k
wel'll find others to do the checks, ... there is 2 of us 		[00:33]
jonnyb& i'm not about after about 11 tomorrow morning (it's 1:33 now) but will catch up when i get home (& can be about saturday i think) [00:34]
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jonnybnite nite & good luck [00:35]
nkoth3sounds good. btw, i sent out an email alreasy
sleep well 		[00:35]
jonnybi thought so - sf is v slooooow [00:35]
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nkoth3i'll be back in 20min to check on the progress [00:36]
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MartinCleaver2m40s till build will be uploaded to vps7 private server [00:46]
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CIA-65tikiwiki: 03mrjc * r18803 10/branches/3.0/ (changelog.txt copyright.txt db/tiki-secdb_3.0_mysql.sql): [REL] Update README file for 3.0rc2 [01:32]
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CIA-65tikiwiki: 03mrjc * r18804 10/branches/3.0/lang/ (35 files in 35 dirs): [REL] Update language.php files for 3.0rc2 [01:37]
tikiwiki: 03mrjc * r18805 10/branches/3.0/copyright.txt: [REL] Update copyright.txt for 3.0rc2
tikiwiki: 03mrjc * r18806 10/branches/3.0/db/tiki-secdb_3.0_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 3.0rc2
tikiwiki: 03mrjc * r18807 10/tags/3.0rc2/: [REL] Deleting tag 'tags/3.0rc2' in order to create a new one
tikiwiki: 03mrjc * r18808 10/tags/3.0rc2/: [REL] Tagging release 		[01:43]
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nkoth3hi, any volunteers here to help test tarballs? [01:59]
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nkoth3ricks99: hi, just in time to help test tarball :) [02:01]
ricks99i'll try...
btw, getting a 500: server error when trying to upload a file to gallery on tw.o :(
rc2 done? 		[02:02]
nkoth3yes
ricks99: how big a file?
are you able to help test a zip? 		[02:02]
ricks99<20K
where's the zip/rc2
(20k is the file I'm trying to upload on tw.o 		[02:03]
MartinCleaveraha [02:04]
nkoth3hmm... might be good to check tomorrow.
when was the last time you successfully uploaded a file to the gallery on tw.o?
maybe I should try... 		[02:05]
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vkumarHello everybody [02:05]
ricks99http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-upload_file.php produces 500 internal server error
last time i tried, the file gallery was not used for wiki images (used img/wiki_up instead
but now, appareantly, wiki imgages are stored in file gallery 		[02:06]
nkoth3right [02:06]
ricks99nkoth3: where is the 3.0rc2 zip?
sf? 		[02:07]
nkoth3not yet
i want to test it first before sf 		[02:07]
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nkoth3MartinCleaver: can you move it to web accessible location? [02:08]
ricks99k. just ping me when its available. [02:08]
MartinCleaverricks99: http://vps7.etazo.net/tikiwiki-3.0.rc2.zip [02:11]
ricks99tx martincleaver [02:11]
MartinCleaveram moving the other formats shortly [02:11]
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MartinCleaverhttp://vps7.etazo.net/tikiwiki-3.0.rc2.tar.bz2 and http://vps7.etazo.net/tikiwiki-3.0.rc2.tar.gz [02:20]
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nkoth3ricks99: fwiw http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-upload_file.php white screens for me. Uploading a 470 kb file to doc.tw.o worked. Maybe tw.o is not up to date or configured wrongly [02:40]
MartinCleaveralso copyright.txt doesm
n't contain mrjc - so we think something didn't update properly 		[02:48]
nkoth3we'll figure out why copyright did not include your name
before the final release 		[02:49]
MartinCleaverok. no worries [02:49]
nkoth3ricks99: is the zip ok?
MartinCleaver: bz2 good right? 		[02:49]
MartinCleaverI used the zip actually [02:50]
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nkoth3ok, just unzip the bz2 and diff
jsut to make sure the archive is good 		[02:51]
MartinCleaverok [02:51]
nkoth3I tried the gz. it's good [02:51]
MartinCleaverMartinCleaver is diffing [02:54]
ok - nothing significant. Upload to sf time [03:00]
ricks99zip is good
is there a test of tests or cases to run? 		[03:03]
nkoth3ricks99: no. hopefully by 4.0 we'll have all that :) but then the trend is towards continuous integration anyway [03:07]
ricks99successfully installed on win xp +wamp, but no left column on default profile ?
is that correct? 		[03:07]
nkoth3yes, until you login
you could try the other profiles too... 		[03:08]
ricks99why no left column?
is that by design? 		[03:08]
MartinCleaver'night all [03:08]
ricks99kinda odd (to me, anyway) [03:09]
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ricks99:( fatal error when isntalling personal blog profile [03:13]
nkoth3what kind of fatal error? [03:17]
ricks99http://pastebin.com/m379000b3
woo hoo! hurricanes beat boston !!!!!!
win xp + wampserver2.0 (apache 2.2.11, php 5.2.9-2, mysql 5.1.33) 		[03:22]
nkoth3ah, ok,
i think i know how to fix that
let me check the profiles server 		[03:23]
ricks99: hmm, can you try again? but you might have another error [03:31]
ricks99trying now....
new error... 		[03:31]
nkoth3db error insert right [03:33]
ricks99http://pastebin.com/m8e764b5
ricks99 still excited about the 'canes win... even more xciting than tiki 3.0 		[03:33]
nkoth3:)
and exactly how do you reproduce that? 		[03:34]
ricks99selected the 'personal blog and profile' install profile.
clicked install
waited a few seconds 		[03:38]
nkoth3ok [03:39]
ricks99then the error
ricks99 thinks it is odd to b xcited about hockey when it is 90F 		[03:39]
nkoth3ok, I found another error
but not the one you have 		[03:42]
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nkoth3ok, can you try again?
ricks99^ 		[03:53]
ricks99success!
interesting....
the Personal Blog and Profile seems to load... @twbasics tweets and my tiki blog <blush> 		[03:55]
nkoth3can you tell me if you have a "powered by tikiwiki" at the bottom footer? [03:58]
ricks99y [04:00]
nkoth3ok, I have to make the same fix to the other profiles... [04:00]
ricks99glad i could make a contribution to rc2 [04:03]
nkoth3ok, i made the same change to the company intranet setting
Can you try that profile?
(I can't reproduce the problem, I think it is WAMP related) 		[04:08]
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Tikiwiki|botInfo: TIki 3.0 second and final release candidate - http://info.tikiwiki.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=62 [04:11]
ricks99trying again... [04:12]
nkoth3company intranet profile [04:12]
ricks99successful installation [04:14]
nkoth3ok, now I tried a different approach to the small organization web presence profile. could you try that too? [04:16]
ricks99deleting db... [04:18]
nkoth3yes, that's a good idea [04:18]
ricks99running installer...
successful 		[04:18]
nkoth3do you see a powered by page?
well, i don't know what is that, I have to ask Marc 		[04:20]
ricks99i see the link in the footer [04:22]
nkoth3but it was always there, was it not?
or is this new? 		[04:22]
ricks99not sure, i really have never used anything except the default profile [04:22]
nkoth3I see
this powered_by thing in the profile installs the logo
the powered by tiki logo and sourceforge logo 		[04:23]
ricks99i see no sf logo [04:24]
nkoth3and turns on feature_bot_logo [04:24]
ricks99i see the "powered by tiki" in the footer [04:24]
nkoth3right, but when you ran the small org web presence, it was supposed to have installed a logo too
but obviously it didn't. it's not doing it for me either. 		[04:25]
ricks99nope. i dont see it [04:25]
nkoth3it's getting late for me... we'll try and resolve this tomorrow. [04:26]
ricks99me 2
cya 2morrow 		[04:26]
nkoth3i'm going to put back this line in the blog profile
can you clear your cache/logout and try the blog profile again? 		[04:28]
ricks99blog profile? sure [04:30]
nkoth3one sec
ok ready 		[04:30]
ricks99running...
k. 		[04:32]
nkoth3so it's good? [04:34]
ricks99i now have a text link "login" in the footer, under the Powered by... [04:34]
nkoth3is this differnet from before? or you can't remember for sure? [04:34]
ricks99<sigh> can't recall [04:34]
nkoth3ah well, nm [04:35]
ricks99but installed succesfuulllly, no sql errors [04:35]
nkoth3ok [04:35]
ricks99ah.. i see... the link is because i was logged in as admin... [04:35]
nkoth3ok, thanks! [04:36]
ricks99ricks99 wonders why the link is not labeled "logout"
theres no way to logout 		[04:36]
nkoth3I think you have a session cache problem [04:37]
ricks99nvr mind
operator error
time for sleep, obviously 		[04:37]
nkoth3me too
bye 		[04:38]
vkumarhi ricks hi nelson.. got a doubt
can we make a .tpl file created by us to be shown as a module ?? 		[04:39]
ricks99doubt? [04:40]
nkoth3"question" [04:40]
vkumarcan we make a .tpl file created by us to be shown as a module ?? [04:40]
ricks99y. essentially u create a custom module
need a corresponding php 		[04:40]
vkumarleft or right
oh ok.. then how do we mention that php in the parameter 		[04:40]
ricks99if u put the php file in the /modules directory, it should be available from admin: modules and you can assign it [04:41]
vkumaroh yes... how could i ask such a stupid question ??
:) 		[04:42]
ricks99im the xpert @ stupid qs :) [04:43]
vkumar:).. thanks a lot ricks [04:43]
ricks99np
ricks99 really going to bed now.
'night all 		[04:43]
nkoth3same here... :) [04:43]
vkumarnight ricks [04:43]
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vkumarhi nelson how r u ? [04:46]
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Tikiwiki|botNew Forum Posts: How to show the "additional info" in list galleries? - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=33009 [06:05]
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sylviegwithout the urlencode - all the sefurl with special charracters are broken... [06:56]
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luciash:-[ [07:03]
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sylviegpage titles with special chars like accent are broken too [07:25]
CIA-65tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r18809 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-edit_help.tpl: [FIX] Oops in 18771 (automated script did not like | ) [07:38]
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CIA-65tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r18810 10/trunk/doc/devtools/capitalize_buttons.pl: [FIX] Now handles '(', ')' and '|' in strings [08:06]
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r18811 10/branches/3.0/doc/devtools/release.php: [FIX] release script : avoir shipping the wrong version of Tiki [08:19]
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18812 10/branches/3.0/changelog.txt: [REL] rollback last changelog update that was not correct, in order to re-update it correctly
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18813 10/trunk/ (80 files in 55 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, branches/3.0 18765 to 18811 		[08:24]
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magowizHi all, how can I reset my wiki to accept only not-secure login ? My webserver doesn't support ssl , Obviously I cannot login but I can access to tikiwiki mysql database [08:53]
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luciashmagowiz: https_login in preferences table
magowiz: look in the tiki-admin_include_login.php file for "disabled" if it's what you need to set the value to 		[09:16]
magowizok, I think I resolved. I found an older irc log in which I have the same identical problem, the solution is to set https_login to disable in tiki_preferences and then edit tiki-admin_include_login.php and replace https_login with
disabled
:)
this time I took note of it ;) 		[09:19]
CIA-65tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r18814 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_img.php: [FIX] Strip single quotes from {img} tag params to restore 2.x behaviour [09:27]
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18815 10/branches/3.0/lib/setup/twversion.class.php: [REL] Preparing 3.0rc2 release [09:41]
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18816 10/branches/3.0/lib/: [REL] Block third_party libs to a specific revision for 3.0 [09:49]
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18817 10/branches/3.0/lib/ajax/: [REL] Block third_party libs to a specific revision for 3.0 (xajax) [09:55]
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18818 10/branches/3.0/lang/ (35 files in 35 dirs): [REL] Update language.php files for 3.0rc2 [10:06]
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nylothHi all :) [10:22]
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CIA-65tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18820 10/branches/3.0/copyright.txt: [REL] Update copyright.txt for 3.0rc2 [10:39]
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CIA-65tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18821 10/branches/3.0/db/tiki-secdb_3.0_mysql.sql: [REL] SecDB for 3.0rc2
tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r18822 10/tags/3.0rc2/: [REL] Deleting tag 'tags/3.0rc2' in order to create a new one
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xavi_mibbittoctoc
just installed a tiki3rc2, barebones, localized, and I got no left column in the installed tiki (!)
is it only to me?
I downloaded the bz2 package, in case it matters (I guess not, but, just in case)
I'll play a bit more if I see any other oddities... 		[12:02]
ricks99xavi: as designed (i noticed it too)
left col is only avialble after logging in
ricks99 not sure that he likes that :( 		[12:04]
xavi_mibbitah, ok, I missed that discussion, then, about removing the left column
xavi_mibbit has not opinion yet on likes/dislikes... just wanted to check whether it was a feature or a bug
for sure the screen looks cleaner now :-) 		[12:04]
sylviegsomebody comiitted - menu not seen as nonymous
I think 		[12:06]
ricks99cleaner maybe, but i think less *clearer* [12:06]
sylviegme too I do not like [12:07]
xavi_mibbitoh, well, I like it, it's going to be better for newbies not leaving the main (long) application menu for their users...
but just learning how to add a menu for anons.... 		[12:07]
ricks99looking in my crystal ball, i scan see the forum now: "I just installed Tiki and there is no menu!" [12:07]
xavi_mibbitin the last two weeks, I got comments from techies from other web engines, saying that if was confusing for them to find things in tiki, when the menus (the main application menu) was so crowded with items...
ricks99: I agree (this is going to be the top 1 question in forums!): we can create it ourselves and make it sticky already! :-D 		[12:08]
ricks99no one reads the stickies :( [12:09]
xavi_mibbit... and I was surprised, because those two guys, in different days, from different tiki-powered communities, they said the same type of comments (they don't know each other) [12:09]
ricks99i want a forum feature... when you click "save" tiki automatically searches for similar pages and shows them to you, before posting the message [12:10]
xavi_mibbitI ended up doing some short menu (with the nice menupage Module-feature added my mose long ago :-) ) with the minimum items they use to need: screenshot here http://moviments.net/art133
In fact, I've been using the menupage module for each new tiki I created in the last year, and removing the main application menu for anons and plain registered, and my users seems to get lost less frequently ...
my 2 cents-worth reflection on the subject of menus for new users
ok, back to testing a bit that rc2
xavi_mibbit will test an upgrade process also in short 		[12:11]
CIA-65tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18826 10/branches/3.0/installer/schema/ (20081019_score_tiki.sql 20090515_score_tiki.sql): [FIX] wrong order on instruction [12:14]
ricks99y. interstingly, "creating a menu" and "customizing menus" are two of the top pages on "Smarties" [12:15]
xavi_mibbitricks99: I would vote (for 3.1, of course) to add a simple module menupage with basic pre-defined content for new users (new admins), with an "edit" link also on the body of that wiki page for the menu
for many many tiki sites, users feel the pain to lear how to make a new simple menu for their site... and it's very steep for newbies to do that.... 		[12:17]
ricks99only problem.... does the menupage support css/phplayer menus? [12:18]
xavi_mibbit... you need to learn about menus, modules, user modules, assigning modules, assigning to the right group/s, etc...
do a wiki page support css/phplayer menus?
well, when you learn about it, you create a real menu with your phplm/superfish/suckerfish whatever techie thingy on that, and add that to a module, and then to the wiki page for the menupage, or as an common user-assigned module....
I think about the users starting with tiki, that they want to learn how to make their "hello world" menu, with the minimum clicks and minimum steepness of the hill 		[12:19]
Tikiwiki|botNew Forum Posts: email notifications - file gallery - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=33014 [12:21]
xavi_mibbitthen, from there, they can keep moving uphill for the new and more powerful thingies of the menu builder, css, superfish or supersharks or whatever ;-) [12:21]
ricks99Hello World menu: http://twbasics.keycontent.org/Creating a Menu :) [12:21]
xavi_mibbitricks99: :-) Hey, wasn't it you talking about the 11 clicks (or so) to make a simple action in Tiki recently ago? [12:23]
ricks99yup. try adding an image to a wiki page using the default install profile
PITA 		[12:23]
xavi_mibbitwith module menu page you reduce that to 2 clicks (1 for open wiki page, from the module on the column, and 1 for save) + your content to the menu [12:24]
ricks99ricks99 will have to play with the menupage module [12:24]
xavi_mibbityes, that's what I mean. I totally agree with you. Imho there should be 1 default calednar created, and 1 file gallery created
http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Module+menupage
^please, It took me a while to learn how to use it (mose didn't like writing the doc., and it took me a while to find the param names and syntax right, which changed between 1.9.x and 2.x, etc.)
but nowdays, it's documented (I did my best many months ago ;-) ) and it's fairly much easier to get a simple menu going in your site, collaboratively, with icons, etc. (as nice or as ugly as you want, just knowing basic wiki syntax)
MinifiedScripts links to a non existing page in documentation, and it's enabled by deafult in bare-bones install.
it would deserve some content from any admin who know s what this "MinifiedScripts" stands for...
http://doc.tikiwiki.org/MinifiedScripts
non-existing page right now
with a nice link to "create page" (if you know what is it about)
and another issue on rc2 still: "Admin > Features > User > Group Watches" links to http://doc.tikiwiki.org/User+Watches , as well as "Admin > Features > User > User Watches" which also links (of course) to http://doc.tikiwiki.org/User+Watches
And http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Group+Watches doesn't exist
(I wonder if the feature existed or exists, or it was removed at some point to reduce duplication with "Group Alert", which exists, even if http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Group+Alert has no content either 		[12:24]
sylvieggroup watches and group alert is diferent
group watch is exactly like user watch
group alert you can choose the user in the group of alert 		[12:34]
xavi_mibbitsylvieg: could you drop a line on each of them (on doc.tw.o) if both features exist in tiki3? [12:35]
sylviegping gillesm for group of alert [12:36]
xavi_mibbitor sylvieg, do you know where it's explained? I'll make those pages myself with the minimum text for them, [12:36]
sylviegI can do group watch - but group of alert - need to ask to gillesm
(it is forever turn off on my computer) 		[12:36]
MartinCleaverIf you hit "go back" after getting your password change wrong it tries to resend the form with the wrong password. The back button is broken. [12:37]
xavi_mibbitOk, thanks [12:37]
sylviegdoc.tw is agin dead for me... [12:39]
xavi_mibbitok, sylvieg, I'll start those pages on doc.tw.o (alive for me) [12:39]
sylvieggroup watch - an admin can addone or n groups - each user of the group (member at the moment of the notification) will receive a mail. there is no way to a user to unsubscribe to this watch
the mail looks exactly like the user watch mail
if a user has both a user watch and a or n group watches on the evetn - he will receive one mail only
thanks xavi to enter that on doc
the icon is the eye with a little group
... I am not sire that all the thing a user can watch - a group can watch 		[12:41]
xavi_mibbitok, page is created with that content (better than nothing :-) : http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Group+Watches
and http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Group+Alert (kind-a-stub) also
sylvieg, and minified scripts?
what do you know about it? 		[12:46]
sylviegno idea - what it is...
lph? marc? 		[12:47]
xavi_mibbitok
:-7
:-/ 		[12:47]
sylviegperhaps there is a doc on dev.tw [12:47]
xavi_mibbitok, I'll look for it
sylvieg, yes, you are right
it's something from alain, redirected to a page with content
I'll copy that to doc.tw.o, at least 		[12:47]
sylviegthx [12:49]
xavi_mibbitsylvieg, which is the tpl to fix a wrong link to doc from "Admin > Features > User" (tiki-admin.php?page=features)
? 		[12:53]
sylviegtiki-admin-include-feature.tpl [12:54]
xavi_mibbitthx [12:54]
sylviegfeatures
i think 		[12:54]
xavi_mibbitchecking
yes, it's it. I'll commit the fix to 3.0, if nobody says anything against in the following secs...
I guess those tiny fixes are allowed in this feature freeze stage 		[12:54]
CIA-65tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18828 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-admin-include-features.tpl: [FIX]Fix a wrong link to the Group Watch feature, and page is already created in documentation with some basic info about it. Thanks sylvieg for the information. [13:00]
xavi_mibbitok, done
back to testing a bit more 		[13:00]
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xavi_mibbitnext thing, imho, there should be a clearer link to using profiles, in order to easily enable features in a single go. It's not clear for a newbie installing tiki, and upgrading a previous tiki, that they can enable i18n features in a single go,e tc.
but yes, this will be for 3.1 or later, not nowadays 		[13:03]
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CIA-65tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18829 10/branches/3.0/installer/schema/20090120_lost_2.0to3.0_tiki.sql: [FIX]tiki_p_search_categorized: the instruction are already in _2.0_to3.0 that is executed at teh creation of tiki_schema
tikiwiki: 03mangapower * r18830 10/branches/experimental/ws/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [NEW] Added a proto interface about configuring workspaces 		[13:31]
xavi_mibbitok, need to leave. see you, and keep up the good work all of you (tiki3 is about to release! that's very good news for many people!)
cheers 		[13:36]
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CIA-65tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18831 10/branches/3.0/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] Turning off profile plugin on barebones install. It will be activated when necessary. [14:15]
tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r18832 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-admin-include-metatags.tpl: [FIX] value is not a valid parameter for textarea, contents should be shown in innerHTML [14:21]
SEWilco2Does the mobile interface support internationalization/translations? [14:22]
CIA-65tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r18833 10/trunk/templates/ (tiki-admin-include-features.tpl tiki-admin-include-look.tpl):
tikiwiki: [FIX] delete useless title duplication in the feature and look and feel admin
tikiwiki: panel
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18834 10/branches/3.0/tiki-sefurl.php: [FIX]sefurl: rollback 16918 - not to have the page name with an accent appearing with an ? before 		[14:25]
sylviegno more tik3 fixes for me ... will wait next release - [14:28]
CIA-65tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r18835 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
tikiwiki: [ENH] Filgal manager : put relative path instead of absolute path in the {img}
tikiwiki: tag, as a vast puplic request ! ;p
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r18836 10/trunk/lib/ajax/ajaxlib.php: (log message trimmed)
tikiwiki: [FIX] Ajax+overlib : this seems to fix pb of popup box after the page is
tikiwiki: reloaded by ajax callback... It seems strange though as
tikiwiki: $objResponse->includeScript should have done the trick... Please test and
tikiwiki: report if it was/was not a pb for you.
tikiwiki: Also reorder javascript command and javascript file inclusion in the response
tikiwiki: to have the included files before the javascript command in order to call 		[14:29]
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xavi_mibbittoctoc again
I just thorugh about the README file...
... and there is no information at all about upgrades....
I'll commit a proposal with a couple of sentences for that and links (as well as to http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki3 page :-) ) 		[14:37]
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xavi_mibbitI was wondering also about the copyright notice... Right now README file says "Copyright (c) 2002-2009, Luis Argerich, Garland Foster, Eduardo Polidor, et. al."
I remember there was some discussion months ago about it, ... but I don't remember if that's what we agreed to keep in there or not....
anyway, I?ll leave it as is, and if anybody knows any better agreement on that topic (sorry, I haven't got time my self to re-read that long thread from months ago), then edit it... 		[14:38]
CIA-65tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18837 10/branches/3.0/README:
tikiwiki: [FIX]Usability fix for upgraders: some info about where to look for information
tikiwiki: on upgrades, and also a direct link to read the list of changes in Tiki 3 (in
tikiwiki: the last weeks several people reported that they didn't know about that page
tikiwiki: with a "end-user point of view" with the list of changes, and the nice looking
tikiwiki: of jquery-reflections on screenshots, etc... (dogfooding tiki3 features in that
tikiwiki: page) 		[14:43]
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xavi_mibbitbrrrrr, code plugin is not showing the "higher than" sign: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginFile , and most code boxes at doc .tw.o, then, show ugly (broken?) syntax as examples...
I know it can be fixed (did some already) by adding the param "ishtml=1" to the plugin code call, as a workaround, but I wonder whether there is a proper fix easy to add to tiki 3... 		[14:50]
sylviegno you have to add ishtml=1 everywhere when needed (I tried to fix that - but I broke more and nyloth asked me to rollback) [14:57]
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CIA-65tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r18838 10/branches/3.0/lang/en/language.php: (log message trimmed)
tikiwiki: [MOD] Congrats to Pascal St-Jean for improving this new entry text & process and
tikiwiki: Nelson making relevant changes to how profiles are managed (new __Featured__
tikiwiki: profiles). 2 minor modifications: 1- Not focus on staging and approval as this
tikiwiki: is a very advanced feature. Just Wiki is fine. 2- Not refer to specific
tikiwiki: companies but to technologies/standards instead. It's ok to refer to a company
tikiwiki: in a profile wiki page because if it changes its name or goes out of business, 		[15:02]
sylviegI still can log with strasa on IE7 - I can not have focus on the login box [15:09]
xavi_mibbitsylvieg, is horizontal rule working for you with the traditional syntax? "---" it's apparently not working with strasa on doc.tw.o...
http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Installation
I added some hr (through --- ) to better display sections of big steps, aside from the smaller level instructions...
...but no way... they are not displayed to me
oh well, "---" works on tiki3rc2 for me... using strasa also....
the problem seems to be in doc.tw.o.... amette? ^ 		[15:12]
sylviegon my local it is working too [15:16]
xavi_mibbitnot urgent for that issue with hr, but whenever you svn up, amette, doc.tw.o. if you can keep an eye on that "---" (hr) issue, we would know if it's fixed on doc.tw.o, or there is some doc.tw.o-specific issue with it
ok, thx sylvieg for feedback.
it must be either specific for doc.tw.o (?) or something fixed in current svn code 		[15:17]
ok, c u [15:28]
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xavi_mibbittoctoc
I'm finally trying an upgrade from 2.2 to 3.0rc2, and I realize that upgraders don't see see any NOTE in the upgrade process to check/remain them to check the Upgrade instructions that we were updating some days go
I want to add a sentence like this one to tiki-install.tpl:
{tr}If you want to upgrade from a previous Tiki release, ensure that you have read and understood the <a href="http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Upgrade" target="_blank">Upgrade instructions</a>.{/tr}
I know I might get complains for adding a new string to languages... but imho, that info should be there for people just following and reading the instructions from the installer... (not even reading the README file, etc.)
sylvieg ? luciash ? ricks99_ ?... what do you think? would you be ok if I add that line to the install process? (at the step of upgrade) 		[15:50]
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sylviegfor me it is ok - more link to the doc - the better [15:55]
xavi_mibbitI already have that tiki-install.tpl modified in local ready to be committed... [15:55]
sylviegbut younknow it will not be translated... [15:56]
xavi_mibbitotherwise, I foresee more complains in forums about "eh, my theme is not working in tiki3"...
I know, it's not going to be translated...
...in time for all languages...
what about in english, french, spanish, catalan... czeck also?
if you give me the translation here in irc, I'll add it to your language.php
german? ( luciash seems not to be around)
nor amette, for the german translation
ok, there I go... 		[15:56]
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CIA-65tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18840 10/branches/3.0/templates/tiki-install.tpl:
tikiwiki: [FIX]Another link to the instructions about Upgrade Tiki, from within the
tikiwiki: installer (there wasn't any). Usability bug fixed, imho. some translations will
tikiwiki: come in short to some language.php where I can manage to have some translation
tikiwiki: done in short 		[16:02]
xavi_mibbitsylvieg , is that fine?: Si vous souhaitez mettre à jour d'un précédent communiqué Tiki, vous assurer que vous avez lu et compris les instructions de mise à niveau
xavi_mibbit is using google translate 		[16:08]
sylviegSi vous voulez installer une nouvelle version de Tiki, assurez vous d'avoir lu et compris les instructions de mise à niveau [16:09]
xavi_mibbitok, merci :-) [16:10]
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xavi_mibbitFrankP_german: are you german or can you read german?
xavi_mibbit looking for somebody to check the german google-translation for that upgrade tip
if anyone knows german and can fix/check this, please: "Wenn Sie ein Upgrade von einer früheren Version Tiki, sicherzustellen, dass Sie gelesen und verstanden haben die <a href="http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Upgrade" target="_blank">Upgrade-Anweisungen</a>", 		[16:13]
eromnegI've just seen a possible podcast gallery link problem with rc2 - have sent a mail out
can anyone else check if this a bug 		[16:18]
FrankP_germanI can german, write and read [16:20]
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CIA-65tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18841 10/branches/3.0/lang/ca/language.php: [FIX] Some new strings translated
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r18842 10/trunk/templates/mail/ (forum_post_notification.tpl user_watch_forum_subject.tpl): [MOD]forum: a little bit more explicit between topic and post 		[16:25]
xavi_mibbitFrankP_german: great, thanks, can you revise this, please: "Wenn Sie ein Upgrade von einer früheren Version Tiki, sicherzustellen, dass Sie gelesen und verstanden haben die <a href="http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Upgrade" target="_blank">Upgrade-Anweisungen</a> [16:25]
FrankP_german"Bevor sie ihre Tiki Installation aktualisieren, lesen sie bitte die <a href="http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Upgrade" target="_blank">Upgrade-Anweisungen</a>." [16:29]
xavi_mibbitthanks, FrankP_german , I'll commit in short [16:30]
FrankP_germansorry, sie = Sie [16:30]
CIA-65tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18843 10/branches/3.0/lang/fr/language.php: [FIX] Upgrade instructions tip added to the installer, and translated to French (thx Sylvieg) [16:30]
xavi_mibbitcan you read any other lang? [16:30]
FrankP_germanno [16:30]
xavi_mibbitnp, thanks anyway [16:30]
CIA-65tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18844 10/branches/3.0/lang/de/language.php: [FIX] Upgrade instructions tip added to the installer, and translated to German (thx FrankP_german)
tikiwiki: 03xavidp * r18845 10/branches/3.0/lang/es/language.php: [FIX] Upgrade instructions tip added to the installer, and translated to Spanish 		[16:32]
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xavi_mibbitoups, funny :-) I was checking the german translation (after the French, which is fine ), and I've seen that this is the only translated sentence in the first 5 steps, at least!
I don't know why, I through that there was a more active german-speaking community...
oh, I can't invest more time for today, probably...
see you 		[16:36]
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tim435can anyone help me in changing the appearance of the php modules? the first level looks fine, the second level's font is too large. i am using the moreneat theme also. [17:34]
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ricks99_do u mean the phplayer menus? [17:41]
SEWilco2tim435: All the boxes on the left or right side are called "modules" so you need to describe what kind of module you're talking about. [17:42]
Jen2009Hello, How can I avoid having two login boxes (modules) without loosing the logout capability? [17:44]
SEWilco2Jen2009: Describe in what way you lose the logout capability, and why you have two login modules.
Jen2009: The solution to not having two login modules would seem to be to delete one, but I don't see how that is related to logging out. 		[17:46]
Jen2009If I remove the login-box from the modules as admin and I am already singed-in I do not have anywhere to logoff [17:52]
tim435ricks99_ and SEWilco2: my apologies, I am using the phplayer menus embedded in a module [17:54]
Jen2009In the other hand if I keep the login-box and I go to http//mydomain/tiki-login_scr.php I will have 2 boxes
I meant to boxes to login, 		[17:54]
SEWilco2Jen2009: All modules are visible on all pages, and that includes the login page.
Jen2009: Either don't go to the login page when you can use the login module, or remove the login module and only use the login page.
There are redundant displays. If you're showing a list of articles in a module you see those same articles on the page which lists articles.
tim435: If you are tinkering with the CSS appearance of phplayers menus, you'll need to find the relevant style.
tim435: See if that kind of menu lets you examine the 2nd level menu with something like Firebug.
tim435: I don't remember if phplayers is used in my default menu, but Firebug (HTML->Inspect) was able to tell me which line of CSS was controlling a menu line. 		[17:58]
Jen2009If I remove the module I only see on login-box however, after login I can't see any place to log off? [18:06]
SEWilco2Jen2009: You log off on the login page.
Jen2009: My login page invites me to log off if I'm in. 		[18:07]
Jen2009Do I need to add a field into a menu? [18:08]
SEWilco2Jen2009: How you link to the login page depends on your site design. Some sites don't have a link to the login page if the general public can't log in. [18:09]
Jen2009otherwise I still do not see anywhere a sing-off [18:10]
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SEWilco2Jen2009: When you are logged in, what is in the center of the /login page? Mine says "Login / Logged in as: (my name) / Logout" [18:12]
Jen2009I am new to the installation, the center of my login page shows me a menu I choose to display to the left and the group homepage as "My tiki" in the center. No log-off link at all. [18:15]
SEWilco2Jen2009: If that menu does not have a link to the login page, then perhaps you should add one. Some sites don't want a link to the login page, if most readers won't be logging in. [18:18]
tim435SEWilco2: what if i want a menu style similar to the 'neat' theme and i want the rest similar to the 'moreneat' theme, is this easily doable?
sorry - not menu style - phplayer style 		[18:19]
SEWilco2tim435: For some definitions of "easily". [18:23]
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tim435haha
i like the layout of the moreneat, except for the phplayer - second and third levels+, they don't look right to me
thats all i would really like to fix 		[18:23]
SEWilco2tim435: Try setting the site style to "moreneat" and then go in the "Admin>Modules" page and add menus in other styles, to see what the other kinds look like in moreneat.
tim435: If none of the several menu kinds look right, you can copy styles/moreneat.css to a different name, then try to edit the menu definitions for your new style.
tim435: I don't know the differences between the neat and moreneat menus, so I can't be more specific. It's possible that one of the various menu types or options will do what you want in moreneat.
Jen2009: To edit menu items look in the Admin menu for the Menus choice. 		[18:24]
Jen2009Thank you for your help. [18:44]
tim435SEWilco2: the css refers to .mdkverbar do you know where i can find this? [18:52]
SEWilco2tim435: if you're using Firebug, look on the right side of your Firebug window. See if the CSS or style tabs show that. [18:57]
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tim432SEWilco2: I have firebug installed and the phplayer refers to mdkitem, but i cant trace it back, unless i am using firebug incorrectly [19:25]
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tim432does anyone know how to edit the font-size in a phplayer menu??
i would greatly appreciate it 		[19:59]
ricks99@tim432 will need to edit the css
i think .mdkitem (if i recall correctly) 		[20:00]
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tim432ricks99: great thanks for the help, i finally got it [20:07]
ricks99yw [20:07]
tim432is there also a way to use sorted menu levels with phplayer? [20:08]
ricks99not sure what "sorted menu levels" are [20:08]
tim432'sorted section level 0' [20:10]
ricks99dont know, never used sorted section levels. but afaik, it should b fine [20:11]
tim432when using phplayer, i am using a sorted section level 0 and the options arent working under the sorted section
they work fine when not using phplayer though 		[20:11]
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