#tikiwiki 2009-05-22,Fri

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franck	http://www.auscert.org.au/10990 http://www.auscert.org.au/11027 security bulletins regarding drupal	[05:19]
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Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Modifying Application Menu - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=33139	[06:03]
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franck	http://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/2008-12-fdl-open-letter shall doc.tw.o do the same?	[06:15]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r19012 10/mods/trunk/themes/ohia_tiki_3/styles/ohia.css: [FIX] Wide forum pages in IE8 fixed; minor color improvements.	[07:54]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r19013 10/mods/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [ENH][KIL] More updating for layout.css, etc.; custom code file no longer needed.	[08:03]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r19014 10/trunk/ (8 files in 6 dirs): [KIL] transition styles has been made useless since new layout.css and are now removed (see discussion on devel mailing-list)	[09:02]
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luciash	polom ! luciash still wonders why on trunk the section edit icons are not aligned nicely on right side as on 3.0	[09:51]
nyloth	Hi all :)	[09:53]
luciash	hi nyloth :)	[09:53]
chibaguy	hi nyloth, hi luciash :-)	[09:54]
nyloth	:)	[09:55]
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mib_e22qac	Hello - does anyone know what permission I need to assign for anonymous and registered users to see the site header I put in the CSS? 2.3	[09:56]
luciash	mib_e22qac: i don't understand... site header is always visible by default	[10:01]
mib_e22qac	it is there when I logout but once I refresh or log in as a registered user it disappears, same goes for thumbnails - it just says thumbnail rather than showing the image	[10:04]
luciash	memory_limit issue ?	[10:07]
mib_e22qac	how would I resolve that?	[10:09]
luciash	Sug4r: enlight mib_e22qac memory_limit	[10:10]
Sug4r	mib_e22qac: 'memory_limit' could be the most frequently asked question about trouble getting blank pages. The PHP memory_limit should be >= 16M (see your php.ini). You can check it with <?php echo ini_get('memory_limit'); ?> and read more at http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Requirements+and+Setup&bl#PHP	[10:10]
mib_e22qac	ok i will have a go - thanks:)	[10:11]
luciash	nyloth: i'm still kind of unsure about the layout.css only solution	[10:11]
gezza	hi all! the translated items (like the translated items of the plugin list) in the "big blue" help are not sorted alphabetically, how can I change this?	[10:12]
luciash	nyloth: when debugging it was currently easy for users to switch the transition css off, but with imported layout it will require editing the theme file to disable	[10:12]
gezza	they are still sorted based on their original english name however they appear in my language	[10:13]
mib_e22qac	sorry i am not very techy! -where should I put this code? <?php echo ini_get('memory_limit'); ?>	[10:14]
luciash	gezza: it would need tpl code modification... mib_e22qac: just go to tiki-phpinfo.php or tiki-installer.php to see your memory limit	[10:15]
mib_e22qac	is that in admin?	[10:16]
luciash	mib_e22qac: the code above you can put in test.php you would need to create that file yes, admin	[10:16]
gezza	luciash: i see.. which tpl is it?	[10:16]
luciash	gezza: or php, even	[10:17]
mib_e22qac	found it!	[10:17]
luciash	gezza: tiki-show_edit_help or something	[10:17]
gezza	luciash: ok, I try to solve this. I think it would be reasonable to consider this as a fix for the release, the unsorted translated list is confusing for end users, hard to find what you are looking for thanks for your help	[10:19]
luciash	nyloth: can it be done so that layout.css will be included in header as first stylesheet and optionally switchable ?	[10:20]
mib_e22qac	I think it says that my memory limit =32	[10:20]
luciash	nyloth: in html head gezza: yes, other option would be dynamic filtering of plugin names as you type mib_e22qac: i think it's minimum in tiki 3.0, i'd recommend 64 to be safe	[10:20]
chibaguy	luciash, a theme isn't required to import layout.css, if the author doesn't want to use it.	[10:22]
mib_e22qac	i'm only on version 2.3 but how do I change it?	[10:26]
luciash	mib_e22qac: go for 2.4 (for security reasons at least) or 3.0 if you have php5	[10:28]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r19015 10/mods/trunk/themes/andreas09_tiki_3/styles/ (6 files in 2 dirs): [ENH] Andreas09 theme improvements mainly in forums.	[10:28]
luciash	you can change only on server -- php.ini file or if server allows it via ini_set('memory_limit','64M');	[10:29]
mib_e22qac	ok thanks:)	[10:32]
luciash	nyloth, chibaguy : i think i can imagine layout.css having imported lite.css and layout_table.css between whose could admin switch in html head just an idea	[10:33]
chibaguy	I don't see the point of that, really. A theme itself is designed to use either lite.css or a table; it's not something that the site admin can decide which he wants to use. I mean he/she can, but it would break the theme if the wrong choice is made.	[10:34]
luciash	ah, right, sorry :-p when i hear layout.css it really only reminds me a basic layout... like lite is forget it	[10:36]
chibaguy	actually I use layout.css for lite.css-based themes and table-using themes, because it's kind of "middle layer" above the very basic stuff and the theme-specific stuff. layout.css has a "page layout" section, where things like lite.css's #col2 and #col3 width overrides can go.	[10:37]
luciash	yep, i understand... once i was also thinking about making such base.css	[10:38]
chibaguy	or that section can contain td widths for table-using themes.	[10:38]
luciash	so is it for every theme different ?	[10:39]
chibaguy	oh, sorry, I made a mistake.	[10:39]
luciash	every theme has its own layout.css ?	[10:39]
chibaguy	layout.css is always the same, but the theme css file has a layout section.	[10:39]
luciash	ah	[10:39]
chibaguy	sorry.	[10:39]
luciash	CSS is tricky, can fool you mind easily ;)	[10:40]
chibaguy	so a table-using theme imports layout.css but not lite.css, and adds its table-related "layout" stuff. yes, I live with semi-confusion most of the time. ;-)	[10:40]
luciash	would it be possible to have multiple "base" *.css files as you suggested originally put together by one cssbase.php using php include() to reduce http requests ? just to have them separated by feature so in html head tere would be only one <style type"text/css" or <link rel="stylesheet" pointing to that php file	[10:43]
chibaguy	yeah, would be easy, since layout.css actually was put together with separate files just like you describe. ...and is still arranged in such sections.	[10:45]
luciash	i mean if this would help a bit and work .)	[10:46]
chibaguy	(you can read the top of layout.css for the description) nyloth also mentioned having separate files and combining with php.	[10:46]
luciash	then editing by devs wouldn't be a mess mixing or dupůlicating css by feature with another *duplicating so do we rename to layout.php ? ;)	[10:47]
chibaguy	:-) so i imagine that could also include calendar.css, admin.css, freetags.css, etc., that are currently separate files. are you thinking about serving css according to what is needed, such as some global css + forum css when visiting forums, etc.? or just combining all the css into one file for serving?	[10:49]
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luciash	chibaguy: having it already served all at once can improve performance on client side but on the other hand having some conditional ifs can slow it down on the server... it'd need to be tested i think	[11:36]
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chibaguy	seems so	[11:42]
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luciash	chibaguy: do you still get the database error on trunk ?	[12:04]
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chibaguy	uh, iirc I got the table from branch 3 and input it with phpmyadmin.	[12:09]
luciash	ah	[12:09]
	i'll try fresh install then	[12:17]
nyloth	back :)	[12:18]
luciash	interesting "promo sheet" → http://tikiwiki.org/Promo+Sheet	[12:22]
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vkumar	Hi everybody	[12:26]
	Hi Luciash, Hi gary..	[12:32]
luciash	hi vkumar	[12:34]
vkumar	luciash how r u ??	[12:35]
luciash	fine :)	[12:39]
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chibaguy	hi vkumar.	[12:40]
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vkumar1	Hi gary... how r u ?? Busy as usual ??	[12:40]
luciash	any idea we have big and small tags wiki syntax ? does wiki 3D browser work for you on doc.tw.o ? chibaguy: i am putting links to your themes issue wiki page at themes.tw.o on pages mentioning upgrade to 3.0	[12:41]
vkumar1	I have stopped tikiwikieng for a while.. Reason gary knows... I lost my job :)	[12:43]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r19016 10/branches/proposed/templates/tiki-adminusers.tpl: rollback auto_args	[12:43]
luciash	vkumar1: yup, i heard :-/ any idea why BBHI is off on doc.tw.o ?	[12:44]
vkumar1	where ru located.. luciash ?	[12:45]
chibaguy	vkumar1: yes, today I've been updating some themes at mods.tw.o	[12:49]
vkumar1	ok cool...	[12:50]
chibaguy	so, vkumar1, what is your next step?	[12:51]
vkumar1	mods.tw.o ? is that another tikiwiki site ?	[12:51]
chibaguy	mods.tw.o is the web front-end for the mods branch of our svn repository.	[12:52]
vkumar1	ok	[12:52]
chibaguy	it has extra themes and other things	[12:52]
vkumar1	oh cool.. i should have known it I am sending resumes to different companies and consultancies very few have responded since it is crisis time I have a telephonic interview on monday	[12:53]
chibaguy	hey, you're doing better than me. ;-)	[12:55]
vkumar1	:) bu we have to compromise on pay... since they can get people easily nowadays in job sites they have reduced experience needed to 2-3 years they don't want great experience	[12:55]
luciash	bbl	[13:03]
vkumar1	Hey gary bro.. you seem to be very busy today ?? ok see you guys later	[13:07]
chibaguy	oh, sorry, yeah, I am. I want to get the mods.tw.o themes updated to 3.0 as soon as possible.	[13:10]
vkumar1	ok great... see you later	[13:10]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r19017 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.button.php: [FIX] smarty button plugin: URL arguments specified in $auto_query_args global var must not be added to buttons URLs by default (to do this, use _query_args='*')	[13:28]
	tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r19018 10/trunk/templates/ (tiki-adminusers.tpl tiki-view_tracker_item.tpl): [FIX] remove empty _auto_args params for button, since its already the default behaviour tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r19019 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.button.php: [FIX] smarty button: update comments tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r19020 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.button.php: some comment	[13:35]
	tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r19021 10/branches/proposed/ (2 files in 2 dirs): tikiwiki: [bp/r18835][ENH] Filgal manager : put relative path instead of absolute path in the {img} tikiwiki: tag, as a vast puplic request ! ;p	[13:48]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r19022 10/branches/proposed/lib/smarty_tiki/function.button.php: [bp/r19017] Remove unused/confusing code of smarty button, also removed in trunk	[13:50]
marclaporte	tks nyloth	[14:01]
nyloth	:)	[14:01]
marclaporte	when quality meets popularity :-)	[14:01]
nyloth	mainly quality here ... for me it's a fix, btw :)	[14:02]
marclaporte	BRHI : is this a fix? marclaporte hopes so	[14:03]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r19023 10/branches/experimental/coe/ (46 files in 20 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 18959 to 19020	[14:03]
nyloth	marclaporte: we can argue that's an ergonomic fix. I'll propose it when done	[14:03]
marclaporte	marclaporte likes elastic definitions :-)	[14:04]
nyloth	:)	[14:04]
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gezza	hi! marclaporte: we have a problem with staging and approval, I think you know o lot about this feature. Can you take a quick look at this bug I posted and let me know if you have encountered this problem? many thanks http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=2520&trackerId=5	[14:17]
marclaporte	gezza: : Nelson Ko (koth) is whom you are looking for	[14:25]
gezza	marcalporte: thanks, I will contact him when he is online	[14:33]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r19024 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.query.php: [FIX] notice (when just an anchor, do not try to build a full absolute or relative link)	[14:37]
ricks99	access oops wrong window :(	[14:37]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r19025 10/trunk/lib/ (tikilib.php wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_trackerlist.php): notice	[14:43]
SEWilco2	Hmph. Can't nominate on SF.net because Category is required, but the Category pulldown menu is empty.	[14:44]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r19026 10/branches/3.0/lang/pt-br/language.php: translation fix	[14:45]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r19027 10/mods/trunk/themes/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [FIX] More updating to Tiki3 and layout.css, esp. blogs and forums (wide page in IE8 fixed).	[14:58]
nyloth	chibaguy: did you received my mail about lightjazz / litejazz theme mods ?*	[14:59]
chibaguy	yes, nyloth. I fixed those.	[15:01]
nyloth	chibaguy: ok, thx, did not saw the mail then :)	[15:02]
chibaguy	r18978, 18979, and 18980 :-)	[15:03]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r19028 10/branches/experimental/coe/ (27 files in 14 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 19020 to 19025	[15:08]
Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: 2.4 Flash Banner Issues - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=33147	[15:19]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r19029 10/trunk/lang/pt-br/language.php: translation fix	[15:21]
nyloth	chibaguy: ok :)	[15:26]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r19030 10/branches/proposed/ (5 files in 3 dirs): tikiwiki: [bp/r18688][MOD] button: deploy button in comment-footer + Fix button plugin with _auto_args param + add _anchor param in query plugin + deploy auto_query_args in tiki-index.php (thks nyloth) tikiwiki: [bp/r18717]notice tikiwiki: [bp/r19018][FIX] remove empty _auto_args params for button, since its already the default behaviour tikiwiki: [bp/r19019][FIX] smarty button: update comments tikiwiki: [bp/r19020]some comment	[15:32]
Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Approval system - please help me here! - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=33148	[15:39]
SEWilco2	I assume > is among the known {CODE} problems. Cute. I got a page_ref_id URL on doc.tw.o instead of a page name. I think I got it from a Find result.	[15:51]
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SEWilco2	I'm unable to edit structure Documentation on doc.tw.o. Item 4.1.4.36 PluginGauge is a duplicate.	[16:18]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r19031 10/trunk/db/tiki.sql: syntax - thx nyloth	[16:44]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r19032 10/mods/trunk/themes/underground_tiki_3/styles/underground.css: [ENH] More updating re layout.css, redundant selectors removed. tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r19033 10/trunk/db/ (7 files): [FIX] db schema: fix typo for primary key declaration of table users_groups + update all db files to include last changes	[17:00]
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sol_101	Hello All I have a question about bulk user uploads	[17:06]
Tikiwiki\|bot	Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc channel, Please just ask your question, dont ask to ask, someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay awhile Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc channel, Please just ask your question, dont ask to ask, someone will reply if and when they know the answer. Welcome again and please stay awhile	[17:07]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r19034 10/trunk/db/ (6 files): [KIL] remove sql files of 3.0 installation	[17:07]
sol_101	I am using the bulk user upload with Active directory and denied due to password but i have the password length set to zero when i add a user directly it works fine but requires a password for bulk.	[17:08]
amette	nyloth is committing without hanging out here? mods.tw.o is down, he's informed by mail, but doesn't respond... Jyhem: In case you meet him -^	[17:23]
sol_101	??	[17:28]
Tikiwiki\|bot	??[x]: Usage: ?? <word> [> nick]	[17:28]
rodrigo_sampaio	there is something strange with http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Report+a+Bug in the priority field there is a string option "Put tags separeted by spaces..." any admin of dev.tw.org to fix it?	[17:33]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03wggley * r19035 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_tracker_fields.tpl: tikiwiki: [FIX] Displaying name of user instead of login based on the user_show_realnames preference. tikiwiki: Validating type before trying to bind to the username	[17:42]
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luciash	INSERT INTO users_permissions (permName, permDesc, level, type) VALUES ('tiki_p_wiki_view_similar', 'Can view similar wiki pages', 'registered', 'wiki') Duplicate entry 'tiki_p_wiki_view_similar' for key 1 on trunk barebones profile install	[18:32]
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luminoso	sylvieg, i have the zip file ready for you	[19:03]
CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r19036 10/trunk/templates/ (5 files): [FIX] 'username' smarty modifier should be used before escape 'modifier' + do not try to translate the real user name + add missing 'escape' modifiers tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r19037 10/branches/proposed/templates/ (5 files): tikiwiki: [bp/r18704][FIX] Displaying name of user instead of login based on the user_show_realnames preference. tikiwiki: [bp/r19035][FIX] Displaying name of user instead of login based on the user_show_realnames preference. tikiwiki: Validating type before trying to bind to the username tikiwiki: [bp/r19036][FIX] 'username' smarty modifier should be used before escape 'modifier' + do not try to translate the real user name + add missing 'escape' modifiers	[19:08]
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CIA-65	tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r19038 10/trunk/db/tiki.sql: [FIX] tiki.sql was not updated when new db schema patches has been added in revision 18746 tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r19039 10/trunk/installer/schema/ (6 files): tikiwiki: [FIX] db schema patches, located in installer/schema/, must have a name that tikiwiki: ends with '_tiki.sql' to be considered as tiki official patches. Instead, they tikiwiki: will be applied after a fresh install too and it conflicts with tiki.sql content tikiwiki: that already contains the up-to-date schema. tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r19040 10/branches/proposed/installer/schema/ (6 files): tikiwiki: [bp/r19039][FIX] db schema patches, located in installer/schema/, must have a tikiwiki: name that ends with '_tiki.sql' to be considered as tiki official patches. tikiwiki: Instead, they will be applied after a fresh install too and it conflicts with tikiwiki: tiki.sql content that already contains the up-to-date schema. tikiwiki: 03nyloth * r19041 10/branches/proposed/db/tiki.sql: [bp/r19038][FIX] tiki.sql was not updated when new db schema patches has been added in revision 18746	[19:16]
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SEWilco2	Minor task for volunteers: Fill in Description field on plugin pages to fill in the blanks in the list on http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Wiki+Plugins Maybe someone should also describe the meaning of the green footprint next to some table of contents entries.	[20:08]
marclaporte	SEWilco2: perhaps it one of the wiki page listing plugins (we have 3!) could automate this? Taking from description of wiki page	[20:10]
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marclaporte	If not, we can use plugin alias maybe to build it to be exactly like this marclaporte has no idea what green foot print is ...	[20:11]
rodrigo_sampaio	i'm trying to document a apache configuration in a wiki page but i can't find a syntax that escape the < and > characters. for example, the code: <VirtualHost>foo</VirtualHost> output only: foo. i've tried {CODE()} plugin and also ~np~ and ~pp~ none are capable of escaping those characters. is this possible with other approach? (other than manually replacing < by < and > by >) (other than manually replacing < by < and > by > )	[20:23]
marclaporte	rodrigo_sampaio: : that is fixed in SVN will soon be in branches/3.0 we have same problem on doc.tw.o	[20:24]
rodrigo_sampaio	marclaporte: this is a 3.0 regression or is something that has always been around?	[20:25]
marclaporte	regression	[20:25]
rodrigo_sampaio	marclaporte: early this afternoon i've reported a 3.0 bug related with the wiki parser (http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=2521) and I also found other two bugs related with ther 3.0 parser. maybe they are all conected	[20:29]
marclaporte	rodrigo_sampaio: about color change: I noticed bug on tikiwikiorg as well	[20:32]
rodrigo_sampaio	marclaporte: ok, thanks	[20:35]
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xavi	toctoc mmm, rodrigo sampaio is gone :-/ xavi wanted to suggest to rodrigo to use "ishtml=>1" param at the PluginCode in order to let it write and show html tags that used to work also on 2.x... (I backported it from 3svn months ago) ^marclaporte , fyi I guess that tht param would have solved rodrigo's issues... btw, mods.tw.o is still down to me and I can't install profiles right now, I don't know why prpfiles.tw.o seems to be up (through http://profiles.tikiwiki.org , I mean) but not available through "admin > profiles"	[21:16]
luciash	hola xavi	[21:21]
xavi	hola luciash xavi don't know how to say "hola" in Czec	[21:22]
luciash	ahoj	[21:22]
xavi	ahoj! then :-)	[21:22]
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xavi	luciash or marclaporte: do you know any alternative repository of profiles? it would be useful some sort of cron job synchronizing once every X days (at least) profiles from profiles.tw.o to another host... like long ago with documentation (or tw.o: dupli.tw.o), etc.	[21:28]
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xavi	nowadays, installing profiles seems to be down, and it's not clear where to get the profiles from (at least the four deafault ones) ...	[21:30]
marclaporte	we need a better overall infrastructure for redundancy	[21:31]
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marclaporte	All content mirrored in read-only	[21:31]
luciash	xavi: i agree	[21:32]
marclaporte	I will ask LP to work on this this summer. (in TRIM)	[21:32]
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marclaporte	In a nutshell: make read only versions of Tiki. And have TRIM update them	[21:34]
xavi	marclaporte: that would be some workaround for the profiles.tw.o down times...	[21:34]
marclaporte	not just profiles	[21:35]
xavi	btw, do you know where is the problem? (http://profiles.tw.o seems to be up)	[21:35]
marclaporte	all sites	[21:35]
xavi	all sites: I know, I agree	[21:35]
marclaporte	profiles was slow earlier, but it works now	[21:36]
luciash	bbl	[21:36]
xavi	well, then, it doesn't cross the atlantic... iki-admin.php?page=profiles shows closed icon to me s/iki-/tiki- and no list shown btw, marclaporte, Collaborative_Community is not listed here: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/tiki-browse_categories.php?parentId=16&deep=y (Profiles > state > stable ). Shouldn't it?	[21:37]
marclaporte	http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/tiki-browse_categories.php?parentId=25&deep=off	[21:43]
xavi	marclaporte, I see it tagged (categorized as "beta") . IMO, is should be "release" state. do you know any reason to keep in in "beta" category?	[21:46]
marclaporte	no needs a cleanup marclaporte ran out of time	[21:47]
xavi	ok, I?ll change the category then ok cleanup? well, good enough. it works, and it explains what it does	[21:47]
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jgoodst	anyone know what happened to the mod website? anyone here?	[23:04]
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jgo	hi	[23:08]
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