Info: TikiFest Google Summer of Code 2009 in London, UK (July 3-4-5, 2009) - http://info.tikiwiki.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=65 I (gary) replaced the mibbet link on the tw.o/TikiFestGOSC2009 page with the freenode webchat in an iframe, since freenode doesn't accept mibbit connections now. Seems to work ok, but users need to input their username. (I don't know how to use {$user} in the iframe src.) New Forum Posts: image licence - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=33801 toctoc , from the http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestGSOC2009 page hi xavi hi gary-webchatguy nice that this webchat thingy made some noise when you wrote my name on this irc channel oh really? I didn't know it did that. mmm, which software are you using right now, chibaguy ? Miranda did it ping'd with audio when I wrote your name, chibaguy ? pidgin doesn't do it for me when using irc only when using private chanels (jabber, for sure, and irc also, I guess) Sorry, had speaker off. ah, :-) tell me when you have it on it's on now. ok, chibaguy :-) could you hear any noise? hmm, no sound. ;-) mmmm, can you write my nickname again, please? might I have been dreaming? xavi yes, confirmed, it made a subtle noise, but it did worked! hi hi hi Guest64892 morning all this is matwho setarting up the streaming for TikiFest happy watching - is sound ok? ouhoooo!, Mattbic on the kitchen! ah, I just enabled sounds in Miranda options. hey, Matt! nice kitchen :-) hello all ! who's speaking? is it jonny hidden somewhere??? :-) thanks, nice coffee I have the radio on, so I am rebroadcasting BBC Radio 4 :-) so ... are there any more tiki-guys in your house, Matt - Guest64892 ? yes. More wil be arriving over the next hour chibaguy ? do you hear the sound nowadays? hi chibaguy ok, ok, time for jetlack, etc. hi Matt xavi, I think I heard a sound, but it's small. A little quieter than Matt's radio. ;-) yes, chibaguy , very small, but better than nothing (as before), at least what is small? The video or the sound? we lost the translation capabilities from mibbit, but we won a slight weak nooise when our nicknames are written (just to find out some improvement with the move :-) ) Sorry, Matt, xavi was asking about my IRC client, Miranda. the video and audio streaming are both good. Guest64892: no trouble with the re-broadcasting, just talking about the subtle ping noise through this web interface for irc from freenode oh ok, I am trying out the Adobe Flash Media Encoder so the quality should be better than last time The video is very good this time. Are those glass speakers, or do you have aliens from space on your desk? ah, or chairs behind the table...? no they are plastic chairs strange coffee, Matt is getting mad! ;-) :-) or should we say Madd is getting crazy? :-D ah, someone else is coming.... Hey, it's amette, nelson, and olaf-michael. wohooo, amette and nkoth! and olaf! Hi guys! hi all - i should have left by now, but just to let you know the streaming's working fine!! ok, more from the train... :) oups, iframe doesn't like being in a column from the split plugin :-( sorry that due to this the chat is not shown right now.... fixing well, avoiding the issue, I mean (I don't know how to fix properly) Matt, beware that everybody is listening the passwords! :-) not too much danger of logging into his wifi from here, I think... ;-) yes, I agree... :-) but his neighbors may be watching ;-) it's up to him ... hello Pauline! :-) hi Pauline! I'm afraid that some of the computers in the room visiting the gsoc page (with the audio stream) have the speakers too loud... and this might be reason of the weird echo effect... I?d suggest all of you to turn your speakers (from your computers) down, so that there is no echo New Forum Posts: Can someone explain me "The files can be locked at download" - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=33803 ouch :-) :-) a pity that they are only for MAc ;-) if I heard that properly among the echos... hello Pauline again :-) alright... ... so, now I'm here in the chat, too.. xavi: no, it's USB and can be used with anything, it seems! :) hi amette :-) good! I want one like this! :-) Yeah, I like it, too! :) off the record: price of such a nice usb mic??? It's just like these famous AT&T conference phones you know from the movies.. .;) xavi: I'll try to find out - I'm interested, too... ;) (I fear it's not cheap) :-) ah, ok, then... xavi: not bad, 40 Pounds or something like that - pretty good deal! :O oh, that's affordable even for my economy :-) side by side video and chat fixed using a wiki simple table! (while split plugin was breaking the iframe for the chat) amazing simple wiki table did the trick... great : fyi, short url for the live stream (audio, video and chat) in a go is: http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestGSOC2009#Live without scrolling up and down on smaller screenresolutions, afaik and if you select to hide the right column, then you can use the full with of the screen for the live stream New Forum Posts: User Mail - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=3&comments_parentId=33804 Hey, Rodrigo! Bemvindo! hi Xavi and chibaguy ! hi omstefanov_ Polom from Clapham Junction! :-) Is the video "paused" for other people? Waterloo... ok, now streaming here.... Coo, there are three of me! (iphone's fault) Heh, three of me also (Miranda client kept losing connection.) Crowded ay! Bus! naughty boy... :-) Can we download some of those, please? ;-) hi hi nagendra! :-) is sound OK yes, brillinat MAtt, thanks I think the Adobe Media Encoder is very much better You can skype me if you want to join in ID on wiki page hi jonny :-) :-) Maybe a network problem on my end, but the stream is kind of choppy (video and audio pausing) for me now. same for me Polom Xavi! :) hi jonnyb_i :-) How do we turn on the subtitles? ;-) :-) LOL :P (or I should ask how do we switch the subtitles from ads to conversation...) *g* is the mic in the middle of the table? yeah.. sound is not good? there are laptop monitors more or less in front of it.... The problem for me is that the stream goes on and off. Video pauses and sound stops completely. When the sound is coming, it's pretty good. ok, no worries, most of it can be heard clear enough mmm, I?m afraid I'm not having cuts for a long while now... just that sometime the sound is a bit low, but ok, keep going. I guess that we have the best hardware and software for voice/mic, I mean the voice from the people at the half of the table close to the kitchen is lower than the rest, fyi except when you laugh, of course :-) hehehe, ok :P ( sorry :) ) rrr. I'm only getting about 40% of the audio stream. chibaguy, because of volume of speakers, or because of cuts? network problem, I guess. either good sound or no sound at all. yes, I didn't have any cut from here in the last 5 min at least sylvieg: we really need to fix http://dev.tikiwiki.org/bug2549 - please give me some pointers to what the issue is! :) chibaguy: tables ok, I agree with that one, xavi. :-) chibaguy: users. but what are typical things users want to do, that need wysiwyg? chibaguy: users want word. nothing else. they always want to do things like they are used to. mm, ok. and even for those users who like using wiki syntax, things like this type of big tables are a nioghtmare with wiki syntax. Example : http://moviments.net/plana.Webs Sure, I've used dreamweaver to do complex tables for Tiki, then copy and replace with wiki syntax. however, table editor might get improved when the jquery spreadsheet ui is integrated in Tiki... which might be in the roadmap of jonnyb_i :-) then, just call to a SHEET with the wiki plugin, and start editing the table through the jquery spreadsheet interface :-) moreover, chibaguy : adding bullets to a list of items in a wiki page through quicktags doesn't work for me.... I mean, adding the asteriscs in a single go to a bunch of items in a wiki page... hm, I've just done short lists, and it worked ok. amette, for curiosity, can you read from where you are sitting the text on the screen from the beamer? But if there are implementation problems with wiki syntax, they should be fixed. Shouldn't be an argument to turn to wysiwyg. xavi : yeah, that works nicely (even though that is a solution, in practice.) chibaguy: ok for bullets. but wiki tables are not in any roadmap afaik (except through the jquery spreadsheet ui trick, afaik). Or else, using wysiwyg amette, thanks for the info. I was wondering if jonnyb_i could see on the table that ping to him for tables but anyway, I don't want to distrub the discussion in there... chibaguy : the sentence by idle- "users just want to use something like Word", may also mean that copy & paste from other sources to the wiki page keeps the format if this was solved by wiki syntax in real time (as it happens with wysiwyg), then +1 to use wiki syntax for that instead of wysiwyg, I would say That would be useful for Word users. I wonder if other wikis can import Word pages smoothly. I doubt so. But that's why users just want something like Word, I would say Apparently some can, judging from google results (wiki import Word). and the wysiwyg solves that issue. Copy & paste just works But I don't know about completeness/quality, etc. nelson, come closer to the mic (we can't hear you) now I'm having some cuts myself but it might be me (I was openning other applications in my computer) looking further at the google results, it seems to be a problem in general to import Word articles into wikis, from what I've read so far. ok hi, admins around? hello hi nkoth3 hi sylvieg matbic: are you recording the streaming? chibaguy: and it is not only for simple users. For example, if users want to document something in a wiki, they don't want to learn a wiki syntax. They wan't to work as usual, copying images, tables, other documents chibaguy: that are all things which have to work fast hello !! I hav some troubles for updating my old 1.8 tikiwiki ... all the sql tables are in "latin1_swedish_ci", so when I update it to tikiwiki 2.4, all the accents (cause it's french) are replaced by wrong caracters ... Do you have a clue to update sql tables? some tips? idle-, I'm not sure how much learning is needed to click Tiki's quicktags, but I agree that for some people, it's necessary to replicate their Word as closely as possible. all: us or the screen? :) you gotta choose, beauty or functionality! ;) Nagendra is having his talk about the video stuff.. screen alright coll the screen.. thanks :-) you're welcome :) hi sylvieg :) hi take the mic closer to nagendra, please hi everone ! nkoth3 , sylvieg, marclaporte ... weren't we having a meeting somewhere now? for admins I mean... yes, but see my email ok, I havent read it yet (opening thunderbird again...) ah, ok, (read it) I can recognize amette's laugh :-) http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestGSOC2009#Live tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r19926 10/trunk/lib/core/test/AcceptanceTests/MultilingualTest.php: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r19927 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] to be able to have 2 ~~red:~~ on a same ligne + mb_string for the snippet to avoid to cut the word in a multibyte chocolate!!!!!!! tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r19928 10/trunk/templates/tiki-send_newsletters.tpl: [FIX]newsletter: move the replyto mention in the remarksbox (not to bne lost) marclaporte: *G* New Forum Posts: Interesting problem with installation 3.0 - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=33806 sylvieg: Hi, hope all is well, we are discussing the tracker stopping problem on dev.tw. Do you have an idea what is causing it amette thinks you do. :) soory miss the beginning the problem is the left join on the query why? we need to collect all the fields at the beginning - to do a simple query - and then take away the unecessary fields the problem is the left join done on the sort fields the sort fields must be added to the list og fields the same for the filter fields this is good, do you think this is the only problem or just the tip of the ice berg one simple queries with all the necessary fields and then keep only the wanted fields I am looking only at this query... nyloth rewrote the query .... to have it working with sorted fields not in the asked fields ... but since it is a very slow query to answer matbic - it is the only problem I thjink for simple fields ok, is it difficult to fix? after we have a problem with fields like itemlinks... that use fields from antoher tracker - but I do not think it is the case on dev.tw and this query is executed approximately every time you access a tracker... so improving it should also help doc.tw.o's /Features page which all the time flaps back-and-forth in accessibility (it is some time to do - otherwise will be already done ;-) I wil try to have a try next week that would be awesome, thanks sylvieg :) away for a couple of hours xavi: for when you come back... ... good news: here's the product http://www.expansys.de/d.aspx?i=163997 ... bad news: I found prices around 180 Euros or so! :-/ errr. here's the product: http://www.ipevo.com/products/pro_detail.php?id=10 the first link was the price ;) That's fun - Web2.0 logos in Helvetica: http://ow.ly/grMR :P tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r19929 10/trunk/modules/mod-groups_emulation.php: [FIX] Remove old debug lines back amette, thanks for the link. Now I know :-) (price and specs.) yw, xavi :) does anyone know the difference between the definition list wiki syntax and the definition list wiki plugin? I mean if there is something that is possible to do with the plugin that is not possible to do with the wiki syntax Tikifesters: about WYSIWYG profile: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/WYSIWYG_COE http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/WYSIWYG_Wiki matthew: admin on profiles is LP matbic : ^^ matbic: you still discussing WYIWYG? excellent! yes - just broken the profile ;) oh me and can't rollback or see what's wrong da power is coming matbic: you will feel da power at your next login mmm, marclaporte , I added Matwho to ProfilesTWEditors group. Wasx that the power needed by Matwho? just add users on http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-assignuser.php ok so , now, matbix, you wouldn't need to relogin cause I also added you for this session to profiles.tw.o (by mistake :-) ) ok matbic: any time you need people to have more rights, just them to the *TwoAdmins or *TwoEditors on main tikiwiki.org site ok great in this case, to ProflesTwoEditors on tw.o and at the next login, via Intertiki group membership will be sent and relevant perms will happen it'a bit like workspaces :-) bye :-) bye where would i find the template files or files associated with the Submit plugin in v2.4? tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r19930 10/trunk/templates/tiki-adminusers.tpl: [FIX]user: change icon validate email to distinguish with validate registration so if i wanted to use AddThis to place a share this type of button on my pages, where in heck do i put the code? jcyrisse, ricks99 will know. as in the tw.o forums good luck and cheers well i found an old reference finally thank you is there a way to paste script code in a wiki page and not have it look mixed up? it seems when i preview it messes the code up http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=PluginCode&bl=y well, guess that isnt exactly what i mean i think i am not wanting to show code, for demonstration, for example i am trying to add a piece of code, say for AddThis that will add a social bookmark tool or for example a google mailing list subscription box or...perhaps i shouldnt have html flag selected? ok...the allow HTML box cannot be checked. hmmm...well...maybe not...views properly in preview but on save, does not