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   Jahithber: after 3 hours of testing im not happy with tiki wiki
   <br> i diagnosed it
   <br> somtimes it makes more than 150 queries
   <br> one time it did more than 200
   <br> its too much!
   <br> 10 users can overbelast server in 20% 30% its sick:P
   <br> features are very nice and the rest too but those queries and render time.. :S
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   -: latlink Hi - Where does tikiV2 store forum msgs?
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   -: latlink Found it
   SEWilco2: <u>latlink</u>: You weren't expecting them by that name, were you?
   -: latlink ah - no - but I thought they might have been under tiki_forums_items or similar - but NOW I understand the process - thks
   SEWilco2: <u>jahithber</u>: Yup, that can happen depending upon what features are in use.  I put a cache ahead of the server, but that only helps with some stuff, particularly Anonymous users.
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   chibaguy: About db queries and load time, although there are a lot of queries at tiki sites, as a practical matter the load time doesn't seem so  bad.
   <br> When I compared to others like joomla and drupal, tiki was no slower and often was faster. A lot depends on what the particular site/page contains.
   <br> (in case Jahithber comes back, or just talking to myself. :-) )
   <br> I think a better criteria for choosing is what you want the site for, which tool is the most approriate, what functionality you want, etc.
   <br> better criteria are
   -: latlink Can wiki pages inherit permissions from the user group?
   chibaguy: For sure if load time and db queries are the top priority, there are a lot of lighter-weight programs around.
   <br> latlink, no, don't think that could be possible.
   -: latlink Ok -thks -  just would like new pages to be visible only to the user group that generates the page
   chibaguy: when workspaces is ready (tiki 4), that'll be possible, as I understand it.
   -: latlink great - ta
   chibaguy: coming this october to a server near you ;-)
   <br> (do movie ads still say that?)
   -: latlink on ya - yes words to that effect!
   chibaguy: gotta take the dog out. will be back later.
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   -: latlink same here actually - go figure
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   luciash: polom polom
   <br> everybody enjoys da weekend outside :-)
   chibaguy: heh, I'm working, here, luciash, at least part of the weekend. ;-)
   luciash: hey chibaguy ! same here :-p
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   chibaguy: I think wikiplugin_split should be rewritten to use divs instead of a table.
   Jahithber: tiki wiki should be optimised its too heavy too many sql queries
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   luciash: <u>Jahithber</u>: we all agree, you can join and feel free to help to reduce SQL queries
   <br> <u>chibaguy</u>: do you think it's possible to have the same functionality ?
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   chibaguy: luciash, I'm not sure, but would be good to try. I was just looking at one of the smashing magazine typography web designs that has several columns, layed out with divs.
   <br> http://media2.smashingmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/images/type-layouts/t20/
   luciash: <u>chibaguy</u>: yep, but there's always problem with keeping same height columns if splitted vertically too i think
   <br> and with overflowing content again
   <br> unless set to display: table
   chibaguy: true, there are some problems.
   <br> compared with a table.
   luciash: i would maybe not be as brave to replace SPLIT for now but try with a clone DIVSPLIT first
   chibaguy: ah, I was just going to suggest something like that. :-)
   luciash: :)
   chibaguy: Of course the page author could do the same thing using some arrangement of div plugins...
   <br> The plugin would just simplify the process, I imagine.
   luciash: exactly
   chibaguy: well, when I get time I'd like to try implementing that t20 design with Tiki, so will be looking for good ways to do the columns in wikitext.
   luciash: cool
   chibaguy: Also, the design has something like a popout side column. mousover the "categories" title and content displays on top of the center column (well like our big blue help button). I wonder if #col2 and #col3 could work like that.
   -: chibaguy thinks back to that old Tiki theme that had side columns displayed with javascript.
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   -: luciash wonders where the "custom fileds" come from into the tiki-user_information.php and tiki-user_preferences.php
   luciash: or how to get them displayed
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   luciash: there is $customfields in lib/registration/registrationlib.php but i don't get where they get in
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   Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: ?How to link to a tracker from a toc or maketoc? - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=&amp;comments_parentId=33912
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   Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Open external links in new window - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=&amp;comments_parentId=33913
   luciash: why when i copy the tiki.tpl to tiki-my_clone.tpl and try to set in php to display using that, the {$mid_data} is always empty ???
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   Tikiwiki|bot: New Forum Posts: Cannot see reply to my post - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=&amp;comments_parentId=33916
   tobi_h: Hm - just in case someone feels in charge of the bot: If i follow this link http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=&amp;comments_parentId=33916 I get the following error on the page: Notice: this variable may not be empty: $_GET["forumId"]
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   <br> tikiwiki: 03lindonb * r20074 10/branches/proposed/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_sharethis.php: [MOD] Modified to match changes in ShareThis and fix small bug keeping rotateimage from working. Same committed in trunk revision 20073.
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