Hi! I'm trying to make it such that menu options are only visible to anonymous users (I want these options to disappear when they login). However, when I assing the option to the anonymous group, it appears in every other group. Any way around this?
dont inherit anomymous to registered
aha
thank you very much
(I feel silly)
yw
hm
I seem unable to
Registered is set to inherit from none, but still inherits permissions in the permission assign panel
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Anyone else having a problem with Firefox 3.5 and shadowbox images? Ones that worked before I upgraded to FF3.5 now open in a new tab. :-|
(maybe a local problem. FF3.5 is ok with shadowbox at some of my sites but not all.)
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polomorning
hi chibaguy
nope, i haven't experianced that
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what i find bad in 3.1 though is the fact that when using some jQuery or something it "eats" id parameters of DIV and BOX plugins so they get no id attribute and it's pretty useles then...
hi luciash. I did a db update at one site and that fixed the ff3.5 problem.
yeah, I think a goal for tiki4, if not sooner, should be to smooth out the various problems with plugins.
(more important than some new feature, imo.)
In other words, make sure the basic things are working reliably.
tikiwiki: 03axold * r20077 10/branches/experimental/ws/ (db/tiki-4.0-mysqli.sql lib/workspaces/wslib.php): [MOD] Solved a bug in the init_ws function, and improved other things
good approach
If every dev spent time answering user questions in the forums, there'd probably be more motivation to fix little problems. ;-)
(or more awareness of little problems)
that's right
hmm, sorry, i have hardly time to answer user questions here :-p
yeah, I know. It's totally understandable that people don't have much time to help.
But if bugs are reported at dev.tw.o and devs check there, that's a pretty good mechanism.
chibaguy: actually i don't check there, i check in my email watching the tracker ;)
anyway i have 273 unread mesages of the dev.tw.o tracker items as i check it now
heh heh, ok, get busy. ;-)
hi guys
do you know what happens to trunk?
because there are several problems, like all libs related to ddbb
??
??[x]: Usage: ?? <word> [> nick]
huh ? ddbb ? no idea
sorry, haven't checked out trunk recently
axold: You can update to revision 20046. r20047 broke things.
some got fixed. the latest trunk runs ok on my hosted domain (linux) but no revision since 20046 works on my windows xampp.
ok thx chibaguy, i'm working on ws experimental branch, so I had troubles doing the merge
yes, seems like you better wait.
to understand what it actually is and can do
:-p
haha
we are working on this
i hope we can a ws.tw.org domain soon
we can have
i still cannot imagine what the feature possibilities are :)
yup, that would be great
demo and docs
i need to get into it really soon because i am working on social networking friendship feature enhancements using trackers, templates and some plugins
and i read everywhere ws is sn related but no idea how
As I understand it, with ws there can be an admin for each workspace, who is like a mini-admin for users and so on there.
axold: demo/wip at http://crystals.ourwiki.net
Also, I hope the way it can work is that somebody can register and join a workspace and, automatically, pages created there will be visible only to users in that workspace.
the major idea of ws
chibaguy: ok, can you compare it to something ?
you can create your own communities, subcommunities
and whatever you want
tiki will have life itself because you can have one workspace
for an enterprise with its hhrr workspace, development team workspace
and so on
as a member of workspace
what is hhrr workspace ?
I'm thinking of a school situation. If you log in and enter the "science class" workspace, then any page you make automatically is visible just to science class, unless you publish it for the whole school.
human relationship
yes for example
and think about
can you compare to facebook feature ?
if you are a student you can have
your personal stuff
this is, your wikis, trackers
and more
it's like facebook
say workspace is like ... on facebook ;)
with all power of tiki
is it like groups on facebook ? or group of friends ?
or like networks on facebook ?
To be honest, I haven't spent enought time at facebook to say....
well I'm on facebook but I didn't use this features (actually, I don't use it very much)
so I don't know the differences
is there confirmation step who can join what workspace ?
ah :)
yes, there will be
and you can join to a workspace
or leave
anyone working on the rss feeds?
i am pretty used to facebook so i thought i would understand it better if you could compare it to something i know
yeah, sorry luciash
axold, maybe when a workspace is created, it could have a switch: allow users to join freely, or users can only join by being invited.
yes
you can join group or leave currently in tiki too
of course
all this features will be at your disposal
and if you are an admin
you can set your workspace
someone pointed our yesterday that the tw forum rss feed is not working 100% correctly
i miss the confirmation step there
to be whatever you want
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*out
but currently
mangapower and I
we are working on the wslib
that will manage all of this topics
yeah, Caarrie, the forum urls are weird at times at tw.o now.
Caarrie: yep, seems forumId is required now
i just used the rss link i was given, not sure where the issue is
ok, guys time to code, if i have more time, i will explain better ws ;)
axold: yeah, i only hope it will be not too complicated for me to understand and build on it ;)
thanks for your work, axold. -)
don't worry because ws will be very easy to manage (I have on mind features to do cool things, but for that we need time ;)), thx for your interest in ws :D
polom
moloq
luciash: :)
axold: i am interested because of the work on SN enhancements
axold: i hope we can merge our efforts at some point
luciash, you could look at http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Workspace , especially "Key features"
chibaguy: thanks
hi, i'm interested by a file of the "html2pdf" mod. But i do not find any download link for this mod  ? is there a way to fetch hml2pdf mod source code without installing tikiwiki ?
btw, for example i already enhanced the Group plugin for a param to display content only to friends (using the Friendship feature) of specified user(s): http://crystals.ourwiki.net/PluginGroup
is http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=DatabaseSchemaUpgrade up to date? Because apparently the SQL specific files for each BLAB are not up to date. When I run convertsqls.sh it adds more queries than the one I have added to tiki.sql (maybe is just that someone did some changes and forgot to run convertsqls.sh before commiting). Just checking if I'm adding the new query the way it is supposed to be
ops
by BLAB I meant database software
the enhanced GROUP plugin in action here: http://crystals.ourwiki.net/i+am+johndoe
brb, lunch time here
lwolf, you can go to http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/mods/trunk/ and navigate to the files. I don't know where that one is exactly.
chibaguy, thank you
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tikiwiki: 03floh1111 * r20079 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Readded Qickpermissions. Permissionbundles are now based on the permission levels.
still bbl, coffee time ;)
tikiwiki: 03axold * r20080 10/branches/experimental/ws/lib/workspaces/ (wslib.php wstools/unitesting.php): [MOD] Solved a bug in create_ws function
tikiwiki: 03axold * r20081 10/branches/experimental/ws/lib/workspaces/ (wslib.php wstools/unitesting.php): [MOD] Reordered the params in create_ws
tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r20082 10/trunk/ (9 files in 3 dirs): [NEW] permission and menu entry for the Tiki Importer
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jonnyb, ping
hi Gary
hi Jonny
just enjoying the joy of tiki blogs css :D
and the conflicts with forums... mmmmmm
Are you being sarcastic?
(yes)
how you?
well, I'm doing ok.
re :)
Actually I know exactly what you mean about the blog and forum css/templates.
and feel bad that it's the way it is now.
did you know the forum layout is almost identical to the phpbb layout, when they switched away from tables?
it's one of the main reasons we've never used either of them - i work with a design professor and if it looks bad he makes me switch it off
aha
maybe we should adapt blogs to be like wordpress or something then?
design professor ?
anyway - i want a blog so i'm fixing my theme so it looks ok...
hi luciash 
I'd like it if the blogs were more like wp or other blogs.
hi jonny :)
yup - at goldsmiths - he's a splendid chap  - called John Wood
it's been kind of nutty, because also patrick's designs are sort of nonstandard.
there must be the prev next blog post links
I shot one of his lectures last year - http://blip.tv/file/1712708
there should also be a way to replicate the typical wordpress blog layout, like using the right column for modules such as blog archives, and these would
appear for the right blog, etc. and not at other times.
cool, jonnyb, thanks
sounds like something for the module revamp LP's doing now chibaguy 
About layout.css, how about if the one for trunk/Tiki 4 is named layout.css, and the one that's for use as Tiki 3 reference is named layout-tiki3.css or something.
?
In other words, the production file has the simpler name.
which stays the same
Anyway, that's the way I'm thinking.
been following the discussion on mail list. seems good 2 me
So I guess the trimmed down trunk layout.css (after empty selectors and comments are removed) would be the one to clone to use as a "tiki 3" reference.
got to eat now. bbl.
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tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r20088 10/trunk/styles/strasa/options/ (cold.css mono.css): [FIX] .postbody-title .actions ("Watched by categories" text) in forum titles had bad contrast. Thanks to xavi.
tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r20089 10/trunk/styles/strasa/options/cold.css: [FIX] (Forgot to save before committing.) .postbody-title .actions ("Watched by categories" text) in forum titles had bad contrast. Thanks to xavi.
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Hello! I showed up yesterday and asked a question, but didn't get a viable solution. I am trying to create a menu where some of the options are displayed only when the user is anonymous - ie: the options would disappear as soon as the user would log in. However, when I set the option to the Anonymous group, it displays for all users. How moght I avoid this? Thanks.
Does registered group include Anonymous group?
yes
and there appears to be no way around it
I was hoping that there might be another option I had missed
or a work around
the reason I need it in the same menu is because I'm using the top-menu option, so I can't control the option according to module permissions, so far as I know
In my installation, the Registered group does not include the Anonymous group.
not explicitly
do you mean that you can not have anonymous included in registerd in admin->groups?
ypu can always do 2 menus one only for anonymous and one for this others...
Although it does not appear explicitly, even though I have not specified that registered inherit anonymous (in fact, I have specified none), the permissions section of registered shows inheritance for anonymous
I believe it is hardcorded
as for different menus
the reason I cannot do that is because I am using the top menu option in admin->look and feel, and can only specify a single menu
you can do a specific code {if $user}{menu id=...} {else}{menu id=...}{/if}
really?
oh, I would do that in the custom code section of the top bar?
brilliant!
should work
hrm
sorta
the menu no longer appears as the top bar, but instead appears directly under it, as it would display in a module
did you use css=y or phpmanu...
no
I'm rather new at this, sorry
what is the phpmanu?
I think there was an option for this anonymous pb in menu - bnut I can not fiond it anymore...
phplayermenu
aha
hrm
{phplayers id=42} makes everything disappear....
{menu id=42 type=horiz} does not make it horizontal....
Is there some way, looking at a Tiki, to see what version of tw it's running?
you need type=css I think...
I'm looking at one and I see no obvious "about tikiwiki" sorta link...
look at changelog.txt
{menu id=42 css=y}
according to http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=menus
what does the current version checkbox do?
I can find no documentation on it
bah
css wasn't working because I had css menus off
however, it is still below the actual menu bar, as well as below the breacrumbs
which is not where I want it
huh
if top bar is unchecked, but there is code in the custom box, it still displays the menu
sylvieg: was that for me?  If so, is there a way to look at a tiki install from outside to see what revision it is?
thanks for your help sylvieg
I'm gonna take a break - I'll be back later
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When sending out mail notifications, how does Tiki know what mail server to send them to?  It's not specified in the config settings within Tiki...
MacLeod: it uses the same server where it runs
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greetings
I am having problems due to file curruption and lost my tiki_user_mail_accounts DB
I rebuilt it but it has 0 data in it
Where can I find the default users that reside in this file?
err DB
table
tikiwiki: 03mangapower * r20093 10/branches/experimental/ws/lib/workspaces/ (wslib.php wstools/scriptCreator.php): [MOD] Added remove_all_ws and improved remove_ws: now it deletes recursively
floh1111_: ping
howdy
tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r20094 10/branches/3.0/img/tiki/tiki3.png: [ENH] A logo for tiki 3.x which does not require updating at every release
tikiwiki: 03stojanovim * r20095 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): 
tikiwiki: Machine translation feature (TO BE CONTINUED):
tikiwiki: - for now languages shown as candidates for machine translation are the ones the user can read (as set in User Preferences), and which are not already used for translations by a human translator
tikiwiki: - machine translation needs to be improved (some tags dissapear after GoogleTranslate causing some of the text to lose its formatting)
tikiwiki: 03stojanovim * r20096 10/trunk/templates/tiki-show_page.tpl: - changed the warning message for machine translation
tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r20097 10/branches/proposed/img/tiki/tiki3.png: [ENH] A logo for tiki 3.x which does not require updating at every release (should have been sent here first instead of 20094 in 3.0)
can tiki auto-create a "top" level category for user at registration time so he/she can later add his/her own categories into this category and admin them ?
luciash: sounds like something you should discuss with the workspace-people
hehe, yup yup
sylvieg: salut, do you know ?
ah, kewl, i tested now and when i enabled the first it created the same name category as the tracker name and under it after registering new user it created a subcategory of the same name as its username, very nice
luciash: I remind you of how RSS config asks for a RSS URL.  "####" is a code which replaces the imagegal ID or something like that.
luciash: A similar "What is user category pattern?" interface may be useful for your need.
luciash: Sounds like someone needs to add a Help link next to "Auto create corresponding categories" :-)