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ametteirc.tw.o is back and seems stable so far...
... it's the old harddisk in a new machine... ;) 		[13:21]
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chibaguythx amette.
hi tikifest people :-)
chibaguy watching ustream 		[13:30]
lphuberdeaugood morning, or night, whichever is appropriate [13:34]
chibaguy10:35 pm here. [13:35]
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jonnybpolom 'fest! [13:47]
lphuberdeauhello jonny [13:53]
luciashpolom guyz'n'galz [14:03]
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jonnybjonnyb needs to adjust his irc client's audio alerts... [14:27]
Tikiwiki|botInfo: TikiFest Montréal Summer 2009 ongoing - http://info.tikiwiki.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=68 [14:33]
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luciashsalut tikifest ! [14:34]
MacLeodI don't know if there's been any discussion about marketing in the current 'Fest, but from what I'm experiencing and what I've heard from others with wikis in the enterprise, a key to our market is advising Tikivangelists how to sell it to management against Sharepoint. [14:35]
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luciashis it chealer that guy with broken legs ? :) [14:41]
CIA-47tikiwiki: 03mangapower * r20193 10/branches/experimental/ws/lib/workspaces/ (wslib.php wstools/scriptCreator.php): [MOD] Improved remove_ws_object (still need to be improved) [14:41]
chealerhey luciash [14:41]
luciashhelloya chealer [14:41]
chibaguyah, stream is off the air? [14:42]
chealerluciash: I just figured out how you knew that [14:42]
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luciashwas just on air few seconds ago :) [14:42]
chibaguyMacLeod, I don't think marketing is on the agenda for this tikifest. I wonder what has happened to the marketing things talked about before... [14:42]
luciashyo chibaguy [14:43]
chibaguy...such as the mascot and logo "contests" or whatever.
hi luciash 		[14:43]
luciashchibaguy: it got summer sleep it seems :-p [14:43]
chibaguyso it seems :-) [14:43]
luciashmarc stumbled over the web camera cable ? [14:45]
chibaguywell, on the one hand, I think we need the "brand" things, but on the other, tiki needs to be "sellable"....
... and for that I think a lot of little bugs need to be fixed. 		[14:45]
luciashyep, imho they take precedence [14:46]
chibaguyit's too bad there's not more devs who know the code well enough to do that. [14:49]
ricks99hi all :-) [14:50]
chibaguyhi ricks99 [14:50]
MacLeodIt's not just about the bugs. People who want to use Tiki inside companies with traditional IT departments (and traditional IT department thinking) need to be able to articulate to the decision-makers the primary motivations for making Tiki available *in addition to* Sharepoint.
The Tiki Community can provide more ammo for that debate. 		[14:55]
ricks99tv stream off the air? [14:58]
nkoth3MacLeod: agreed we should have a separate marketing workshop sometime.
ricks99: earlier marc tripped over the webcam cable. I am waiting for it to be restored too 		[15:01]
chibaguysure, it's not just the bugs. but no matter how good the promotion is, if there are obvious problems for the user, the promotion is wasted. [15:01]
ricks99d'oh [15:01]
MacLeod@chibaguy: bugs definitely don't help :) [15:02]
nkoth3wait, maybe it wasn't the webcam cable after all
(reading scroll back more carefully) 		[15:02]
chibaguydefinitely there needs to be work on the product and the marketing, so to speak.
luciash, do you remember where is the switch for the template start and end comments (visible in source)? 		[15:02]
marclaporteWe are discussing: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/PermissionCleanup [15:06]
ricks99@chibaguy: admin: general [15:06]
jonnybricks99: and chibaguy: i think it should be in features/programmer too - i couldn't find it the other day either [15:07]
ricks99ricks99 thinks that having the same option in 2 different places is confusing [15:07]
jonnybfair point - maybe "programmer" should be called "developer" or something to include designers? [15:08]
ricks99it is a setting -- not a feature, right? [15:08]
jonnybtrue - but it's not for normal usage is it? [15:09]
ricks99thats why its in the Logging section [15:09]
chibaguythanks, found it. [15:11]
nkoth3Any video?
here it comes... 		[15:11]
chibaguynkoth3, not yet. [15:12]
jonnybi got vid - ta [15:12]
chibaguyfunny, but considering the subject matter, it wouldn't be any more understandable to me in english. :-) [15:13]
luciashLOL, yep, english would be more interesting :) agree with jonnyb ... sorry, was in another window :-p [15:16]
jonnybhi luciash :) [15:17]
luciashbut agree with ricks99 too, it's true, it is no feature
:-p
hey jonny :)
hey guys, how would you cope with user tracker to respect user's wish to not show his information to public ? 		[15:17]
CIA-47tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r20194 10/trunk/tiki-upload_file.php: [FIX] Init some vars (didn't fix my stored in database problem, but may help others) [15:20]
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CIA-47tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r20195 10/trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] searchlibs : group the searchlibs in searchlib folder [15:45]
chibaguysorry, luciash, no idea about that. [15:52]
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chibaguygood night, all. [16:08]
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marclaportewe are discussing: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Dynamic+Preferences [16:41]
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CIA-47tikiwiki: 03stojanovim * r20196 10/trunk/lib/core/test/AcceptanceTests/MultilingualTest.php: - fixed certain multilingual tests [16:54]
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nkoth3so;.... is this shopping cart I am seeing on Ustream in Tiki? [19:00]
chealernkoth3: yes [19:04]
CIA-47tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20198 10/branches/experimental/perms-take2/ (lib/tikilib.php tiki-index.php tiki-listpages.php): [MOD] Replacing more code [19:09]
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Tikiwiki|botNew Forum Posts: Workspaces: Yes, please! - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=&comments_parentId=33967 [20:05]
nkoth3is the ustream still relevant? should it be turned off?
(or repositioned) 		[20:11]
chealerI suppose it isn't, we just took a group photo
(I'm the one in crutches, so I won't go tell you)
yeah, it's mispositioned, though we're currently split 		[20:12]
CIA-47tikiwiki: 03stojanovim * r20199 10/trunk/lib/core/test/upgrade_test_database_dump_file.php: - script for updating test dump files to the most recent database version. Intended for use for tests only (it will destroy the current Tiki db). [20:16]
chealerthe above link triggers an error, if there's any tw.o admin [20:18]
CIA-47tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r20200 10/branches/experimental/perms-take2/ (6 files in 5 dirs): [MOD] Make filtering a bit more generic
tikiwiki: 03stojanovim * r20201 10/trunk/installer/installlib.php: - removed warning that $command was not defined when running a script for updating the acceptance test db files 		[20:25]
chealerwell, the error is quite right too; the link is broken (invalid forumId) [20:27]
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CIA-47tikiwiki: 03stojanovim * r20202 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-i18n.tpl: - Machine Translation: changed the feature name to include Google Translate [20:45]
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CIA-47tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r20203 10/trunk/lib/search/searchlib-tiki.php: [MOD] indent file - no changes [22:41]
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