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"/Library/WebServer/Documents"'* sparkybrown: yes. it is there Caarrie|away: also make sure web sharing is enabled in your sharing preferences
put your TW files there, and make sure you install mysql from ther internet and you should be good to go using localhost
*the internet
!google mac mysql instal Tikiwiki|bot: MySQL on Mac OS X @ http://developer.apple.com/internet/macosx/osdb.html | MySQL :: MySQL 5.0 Reference Manual :: 2 @ http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/mac-os-x-installation.html | MySQL for Mac OS X installation instruct @ http://hivelogic.com/articles/installing-mysql-on-mac-os-x/ | Marc Liyanage - Software - Mac OS X Pack @ http://www.entropy.ch/software/macosx/mysql/ Caarrie|away: !google mac mysql install Tikiwiki|bot: MySQL on Mac OS X @ http://developer.apple.com/internet/macosx/osdb.html | MySQL :: MySQL 5.0 Reference Manual :: 2 @ http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/mac-os-x-installation.html | MySQL for Mac OS X installation instruct @ http://hivelogic.com/articles/installing-mysql-on-mac-os-x/ | Marc Liyanage - Software - Mac OS X Pack @ http://www.entropy.ch/software/macosx/mysql/ sparkybrown: the url "localhost" I'm sorry to be so ignorant. should just be "http://localhost/"? Caarrie|away: yes
or just type in "localhost" as the url
you have apache and php installed by default on leopard, you just need mysql sparkybrown: once I install mysql, I should be able to go to the url "localhost"? Caarrie|away: as long as web sharing is enabled you can go there without mysql or with sparkybrown: ah timotiCK: I'm getting the following everytime I rebuild mods list in Admin Mods
Impossible to open http://mods.tikiwiki.org//Packages/00_list.public.txt
The content retrieved at http://mods.tikiwiki.org//Packages/00_list.public.txt is not a list of mods sparkybrown: thank caarrie|away Caarrie|away: you are welcome
timotiCK: not many around at this hour, you could try to make a forum post -: Caarrie|away sneaks back away timotiCK: Caarrie|away: this has been the state for a while since May 2009....I thought by now someone had fixed it....Ok, I make a forum post....thanks. -: ricks99_ needs help with newsletter (new 3.1 install, from svn).... ricks99_: i have "users can subscribe any email address" option selected....
my anonymous group has tiki_p_subscribe_newsletters permission....
but when an anonymous visitor attempts to subscribe, they get just the SUBSCRIBE TO THIS NEWSLETTER button -- no place to enter their email address
as admin, it works fine (i can add my email address)
am i missing a permission somewhere?
the fact that it works as admin leads me to belive this. but i don't see any other newsletter perms that woudl make sense jonnyb: sounds like it ricks99_ - not used them
it does check for 'newsletters' perms, so sounds like there should be some ricks99_: does || mean "or" in a {if} statement in smarty? jonnyb: yup -: ricks99_ thinks there's a logic error in tiki-newsletters.tpl jonnyb: looks ok to me (v late here) - are you sure you have tiki_p_subscribe_email = y ricks99_: for anon group. yup jonnyb: so !$user should be true for anon ricks99_: it should jonnyb: and you have allowAnySub set somewhere?
ah, i think it needs allowUserSub too
good luck, i need sleep... ***: jonnyb has quit IRC ("I am going outside... I may be some time...") ricks99_: hmm.... tiki_p_subscribe_email is null when anonymous, 'y' when logged in as admin
d'oh
friggin operator error
tiki_p_subscribe_email did not show up when I searched all perms for "newsletter"
now ii know
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hello? ***: franck_ has joined #tikiwiki
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tikiwiki: 03luciash * r20837 10/trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: default jQuery setup for colorbox slideshow ***: genexbs has joined #tikiwiki genexbs: which tpl file to modify to change for wiki section?
need to update way data is display on wiki pages of tikiwiki
anyone there?
>help Sug4r`: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. ***: Caarrie|sleeping has quit IRC (Excess Flood)
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SirDude0Lot has joined #tikiwiki SirDude0Lot: Good day :)
Anyone that can help me with a problem regarding tiki migration? marclaporte: can try
migration from what? SirDude0Lot: i need to import the data from one tiki to a other without using sql transition tools (HATE working with sql :P) marclaporte: how big is your DB? SirDude0Lot: Not that big, but would be horrible to do by hand marclaporte: http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Backup
Do you have phpmyadmin installed? SirDude0Lot: Debian server
phpmyadmin is win i thought
oh sorry dumb me
finishing my first coffee now :P
think i will follow this tutorial right now, see where i end.. thanks man, will stick around to keep you noted
ah phpmyadmin is in the debian repo, great :) CIA-64: tikiwiki: 03axold * r20839 10/trunk/ (7 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Improved more things in WS ***: Caarrie|away is now known as Caarrie
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donri has joined #tikiwiki donri: is there a way to have parts of pages that rarely update cached, such as menus and wiki page contents? SEWilco2: donri: There is some caching. Admin>Modules includes caching time configuration.
donri: Wiki page PHP can also be cached. donri: do you mean admin>admin mods? SEWilco2: donri: But for real caching of the HTML, you should add a cache server such as Squid or Varnish to your system.
Donri: Admin>Modules. You said "menus" so I think you mean the modules on the sides of the page, which usually include menus. donri: ah CIA-64: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r20840 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_wantedpages.php: [ENH] implement category/perspective filter on WANTEDPAGES plugin donri: SEWilco2, just to check, can those external cache servers cache only parts of the page? how would they know when to kill the caches?
i guess they hook the html output and you have to add some instructions in that in the theme to cache parts?
uh, that'd still have tiki do those 5000 queries. :/ -: ricks99 still having issues with newsletter subscription for anonymous in 3.x.... ricks99: anonymous visitors can now see the form and enter their email address, but i get a "you are not logged on" error after clicking "Subscribe"
i dont understand what i could b missing? SEWilco2: donri: No, I think the entire page's HTML is cached. Menus are mixed in there, unless you do something silly to wrap them in iframes. donri: "Second, it supports ESI, or Edge Side Includes, a small XML-based markup language for dynamically assembling web content."
varnish
not sure how that could work to stop tiki from processing though
maybe it goes before tiki o_O SEWilco2: ricks99: Newsletters are for registered TW users, so they probably have to be logged in.
donri: Varnish goes before Apache. Varnish handles the HTTP requests, and if not in cache passes them to Apache, then caches the result. ricks99: @SEWilco: so the "subcribe any email address" is for logged in only? donri: aye, neat -: ricks99 needsto check the docs again.... SEWilco2: ricks99: Aren't you talking about the Newsletter feature? Earlier this week I saw that described as being for TW registered users. ricks99: y. i want to manage my mailing list via tiki's newsletter feature
need to let anyone subscribe
gave anonymous the necessary perms (or so i thought)
didnt' realize newsletters were for reg only?
i looked thru the code... seems that anon subscribtions should b possible ***: Caarrie is now known as Caarrie|away ricks99: didnt/dont see anything in the docs stating for registered/logged in only SEWilco2: ricks99: Yeah, the Newsletter doc is ambiguous. Look at how a user can manage their subscription. Can someone without a TW login unsubscribe?
ricks99: Is there a password which protects anonymous subscriptions? Or are the subscriptions tied to the TW account?
donri: A significant difference between Squid and Varnish is that Squid is disk-oriented while Varnish is memory-oriented. ricks99: y. each newsletter inlcudes an unsubscribe link donri: memory seems better, but what do i know SEWilco2: donri: But Varnish does use disk when necessary; it simply depends upon the system having been configured with enough swap space for the configured amount of Varnish cache space. donri: yep, i read about this -: ricks99 looking for an alternative to mailman SEWilco2: donri: What actually matters is now many cacheable pages your site has. If most are anonymous users who read the same 100 pages, then most of your traffic is easily cached. donri: something like that. our pages rarely update, but takes many seconds to load seemingly due to tiki doing alot of database queries. SEWilco2: ricks99: I understand; I also use mailman. I don't remember how deeply I inspected the TW newsletters feature, but I decided that mailman was needed instead.
donri: Yup. But pages for registered users tend to be uncacheable. Fortunately, images and such things can be cached and eliminate some activity. ricks99: so u just have an email link from a tw wiki page that sends the subscribe message to the list?
:(
not quite what i was after :( SEWilco2: ricks99: Actually, I use a link to the mailman page for subscribing to the selected list. Yeah, it drops them out of the TW decorations. donri: SEWilco2, probably also cachable with this ESI thing SEWilco2: donri: Does TW support ESI? donri: don't i just need to edit the theme... somehow? or am i just confused?
huh, yea, i'm probably just confused
but if i could just cache for anonymous users, that'd still be awesome.
sadly it seems tiki sets cookies even if you're not logged in, so the varnish defaults wont be enough CIA-64: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r20841 10/trunk/lib/wiki/histlib.php: [ENH] add category/perspective filtering to get_last_changes() ***: MacLeod has joined #tikiwiki
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The "Help" icon on dev.tw.o interferes with clicking on login underneath. Have to scroll away from it. ***: floh1111 has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) MacLeod: Is the MediaWiki to TikiWiki converter ready for primetime?
One of our groups has actually had a MediaWiki installation going for a few years, and I was thinking of inviting them to migrate to our Tiki. ***: franck has joined #tikiwiki chealer: MacLeod: rodrigo_sampaio should know best MacLeod: k ***: franck__ has quit IRC (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) rodrigo_sampaio: hey MacLeod ***: SEWilco2 has quit IRC (farmer.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
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[o_O] has quit IRC (farmer.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) rodrigo_sampaio: MacLeod: the importer is ready for primetime :)
MacLeod: I'm finishing the user documentation of the importer, you can take a look at the page doc.tikiwiki.org/Mediawiki+Importer but there are still some things missing there
MacLeod: all the code is on trunk but it is very easy to backport it to older tikiwiki versions
MacLeod: if you need any help just let me know ***: luciash has joined #tikiwiki
FrankP_german has joined #tikiwiki MacLeod: excellent news, thx! ***: [o_O] has joined #tikiwiki rodrigo_sampaio: MacLeod: if you take a look at the documentation please let me know if you think I need to improve any part of it MacLeod: I'll probably wait for the release of Tiki4 to try this. ***: ricks99 has quit IRC ("Get more Tiki help from TikiWiki for Smarties: http://twbasics.keycontent.org")
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i got a valid TW question if there is
anyone ever run into issues with permissions not applying rodrigo_sampaio: Tumac: what is the problem you are having with permissions? ***: MartinCleaver has quit IRC () Tumac: I just figured it out - I wasn't being granular enough with individual permissions at the page level
I was just choosing anon and thinking it would apply to the whole page when i had to choose P_view ***: Tumac has quit IRC (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Wibbly Wobbly IRC")
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help Tikiwiki|bot: Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc Channel. TikiWiki or better known as TW, is your Groupware/CMS (Content Management System) solution, you can get more infomation at http://info.tikiwiki.org/ . cheal: iannhigginson: see http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=SVNTips iannhigginson: cheal: thank you ***: iannhigginson has left
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