#tikiwiki 2009-09-12,Sat

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CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r21414 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-plugins.tpl tiki-plugins.php): [ENH]continuing improvements. allow single select of approve or clear. ui to match other admin tables	[00:27]
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CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03kerrnel22 * r21415 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Tracker item display of who created/changed record now applies user_show_realname preference.	[03:50]
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CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r21416 10/trunk/tiki-browse_freetags.php: [MOD] browse freetags: remove some unused code (mainly since pagination plugin deploying)	[04:49]
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tiki-newb	is doc.tikiwiki.org down and, if so, is it planned? And is it known how long?	[04:52]
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luciash	tiki-newb: it's up http://downforyoutoo.com	[05:22]
tiki-newb	I can resolve doc.tikiwiki.org, ping it, even telnet to port 80 but any requests time out.	[05:25]
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CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r21417 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] lesser magic: some features in feature.php	[05:41]
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CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r21420 10/trunk/ (7 files in 5 dirs): [MOD] lesser magic: some features in feature.php (change the name of two features to be "lesser magic" compliant	[08:01]
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philback	which tikiwiki variable does contain the full path of the current script ? is there something like $self ?	[10:14]
luciash	philback: see smarty doc, there definitely is something http://smarty.net	[10:28]
philback	got my issue (somewhat) fixed: $_SESSION["loginfrom"]=$base_url. "tiki-download_file.php?".$_SERVER["QUERY_STRING"]."&"$random; wanted to let a user download a file right away from a given URL in the file galleries. any idea of an already existing function/method for generating a random string of n chars in Tiki?	[10:32]
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magowiz	I have to upgrade a tw 1.8.5 to 3.1 , should I try with one step upgrade using 3.1 installer ?	[10:37]
philback	1.8.5 to 3.1 is a huge jump... I would backup my tiki install and db	[10:38]
magowiz	yes... I'm going to backup the whole thing	[10:39]
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magowiz	but I would like to know if in the 3.1 installer there there is a procedure to upgrade from 1.8.x	[10:40]
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magowiz	I googled and I found a doc in doc.tikiwiki.org , the problem is that doc.tikiwiki.org is down	[10:41]
melaia	..	[10:43]
philback	dtwo slow indeed	[10:44]
magowiz	yes it is slow ... but my firefox goes on connection timeout before I can see a page	[10:45]
philback	same here damn	[10:45]
magowiz	it is not the first time it happens to me dtwo goes from being slow to being so slow to timeout and sometimes it works with an acceptable latency	[10:45]
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philback	yes, I agree. I do not have an idea on the figures for the load.	[11:12]
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philback	But I do run a tiki or two for customers and these are not the fastest things in town. But they are the most flexible and feature packed. I do have a Tiki codebase here, I'll have a look for this 1.8 support. Wait a sec.	[11:12]
sylvieg	ping amette doc.tw is down	[11:13]
philback	@magowiz I see 1.9 and 2.0 stuff in the install code but nothing for 1.8	[11:17]
sylvieg	you have to do step by step for the database	[11:18]
magowiz	philback, ok thanks.... perhaps I should upgrade to 1.9 and then to 3.1	[11:19]
philback	in the db/ folder you have 1.8to1.9 sql	[11:19]
sylvieg	run the script d'upgrade tiki_1.8to1.9.sql then tiki_1.9to2.0.sql then tiki_2.0to3.0.sql	[11:19]
philback	before all of that, backup the damn thing :-)	[11:20]
magowiz	philback, sure, I always backup before any update ;) sylvieg, the tiki_1.8to1.9.sql script is also in the tikiwiki 3.1 package ?	[11:21]
philback	sylvieg, what are these // {{{ 's in the codebase ? For some phpdoc ?	[11:21]
magowiz	also in 3.1 , I saw	[11:22]
philback	BTW, is trunk/ 4.0?	[11:22]
sylvieg	magowiz: yes I think so philback: for the edior vim	[11:22]
magowiz	sylvieg, I found it on my local tikiwiki tar.gz 3.1	[11:23]
philback	ah, ok. I am using PhpEd, there is a codenavigator for the whole codebase. Quite useful for navigating the beast.	[11:23]
magowiz	Do I have to upgrade manually using the sql scripts in db/ or those script are ran by the tw installer on upgrade procedure?	[11:25]
philback	I did added some functions for the random string generation in my local install for a given project. Any use for that in the main codebase ?	[11:25]
sylvieg	magowiz: both are ok	[11:26]
magowiz	sylvieg, ok then I'll do the simpler one : installer :)	[11:26]
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magowiz	I'm trying to import old database on a local mysql server but creating table tiki_newsreader_marks I get #1071 - Specified key was too long; max key length is 1000 bytes should I skip this table ?	[12:59]
philback\|busy	is your mysql 5x ?	[13:04]
magowiz	yes 5.0 to be precise I'm trying to import the database locally because on my server I have "forbidden error" while I'm trying to run the installer if I run the sql scripts remotely using phpmyadmin provided by my hoster should it work?	[13:04]
philback\|busy	well, don't know as I do usually have a ssh shell for doing these using mysql CLI	[13:13]
magowiz	anyway I noticed that that table is empty on my installation and I really don't use a newsreader	[13:14]
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chibaguy	magowiz, I think the newsreader feature is dropped from Tiki 3 anyway. or marked as no longer developed, or something like that.	[13:21]
magowiz	I had to remove also tikipages_foonotes and also tiki_searchindex	[13:22]
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magowiz	a lot of tables has this issue.... what can I do???	[13:39]
sylvieg	key too long? (i think not sure that new mysql version limit the key size you can patch the dump of your old database byt limitting the key	[13:45]
magowiz	how can I limit the key ? reducing some key size ? I'm looking at one problematic table structure it has infact 1024 as key size is there a way I should force my local mysql to accept larger key limit ?	[13:48]
	it was an utf8 issue infact if I change the db collation to latin1-bin I get no errors	[13:56]
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magowiz	I get forbidden error with the installer also on my local machine also if I changed the permissions to 777	[14:02]
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luciash	polom hi chibaguy any update on sumo css ?	[14:20]
magowiz	I got a blank page while trying to update the db with the tiki-installer	[14:26]
luciash	magowiz: hi	[14:26]
magowiz	I'm upgrading from 1.8.x to 3.1 hi luciash	[14:27]
luciash	magowiz: i am unsure if you answered that already but do you have php5 and memory_limit at least 32M ?	[14:27]
magowiz	sure	[14:28]
luciash	i think you have to go 1.8 to 1.9 to 2.4 to 3.1	[14:28]
magowiz	Tiki has detected your PHP memory_limit at: 128 MB.	[14:28]
luciash	see your logs then for the error	[14:28]
magowiz	apache log ?	[14:28]
luciash	rather both, apache and php if you don't store php errors in a log you have to set it in php.ini too or somehow force php to display errors in bowser windows	[14:29]
magowiz	apache no error : I get some No such file or dir but last error happened 10 minutes before I launched tiki-installer.php should I restart apache after modifying php.ini ?	[14:31]
	I restarted apache2 with the new php.ini for php5 , the error log file is empty error_reporting = E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE log_errors = On	[14:41]
luciash	can you put phpinfo.php file in your web root and review if it's set correctly and not overriden by tiki ?	[14:42]
magowiz	error_log = /var/log/php.log	[14:42]
luciash	i am not sure but the php.log file must be writable by webserver ? (iirc) at least i remember something like that	[14:43]
magowiz	Loaded Configuration File /etc/php/apache2-php5/php.ini error_log /var/log/php.log /var/log/php.log	[14:45]
luciash	log_errors = On ?	[14:48]
magowiz	sure empty log also if /var/log/php.log is owned by apache group and user and permissions are set to 777	[14:48]
luciash	try to use apache error log for php /var/log/apache2/error.log or simmilar	[14:54]
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magowiz	I successfully upgraded to 1.9.11 with the installer now I'm tring to upgrade to 3.1 success ! :)	[14:59]
luciash	great ! :)	[15:01]
magowiz	so the path is 1.8 -> 1.9 -> 3.1	[15:01]
luciash	nice that you can ommit 2.x	[15:02]
magowiz	I think you should write on docs that you need at least 1.9 to upgrade to 3.1	[15:02]
luciash	now beware of theme changes, table-based are no more supported by default in Tiki magowiz: what place you mean ?	[15:02]
magowiz	Upgrade -> others I don't know if it is already written since today I cannot connect to d.tw.o	[15:03]
luciash	i am browsing it with no problem currently searching even (in Opera)	[15:04]
magowiz	today morning I mean I couldn't browse it	[15:04]
luciash	it is much faster in Opera for some reason (maybe for the reason it is the fastest browser ? :-p)	[15:04]
magowiz	I didn't checked recently	[15:05]
luciash	docs updated	[15:09]
chibaguy	hi luciash, sorry, was away.	[15:12]
luciash	hi gary, np	[15:13]
chibaguy	I did some work on forums. But I don't know what's the status of experimental branch sumo. Not made yet.	[15:13]
luciash	not made yet i was just looking at svnadmin --help but i guess it requires ssh logging to sf.net first	[15:14]
chibaguy	btw, I've upgraded sites from 1.9 to 3, so apparently it's not necessary to upgrade to 2.* in between.	[15:14]
luciash	chibaguy: yes, i have just put a note on Upgrade page	[15:14]
chibaguy	ah, ok.	[15:15]
magowiz	I'm glad to help you find a shortcut : 1.9->3.1 ;)	[15:20]
CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03kerrnel22 * r21421 10/trunk/templates/tiki-view_tracker_item.tpl: [MOD] Template now uses smarty function to display user's real name instead of getting it fed from calling script...more efficient.	[15:23]
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Poison[BLX]	'lo everyone. I can't seem to find anything on sub pages in the wiki portion of TW... i.e. UserPageSomeone/Notes and the like... any tips?	[15:44]
luciash	hi, sorry, i did't know it is possible to use "sub pages"	[15:45]
Poison[BLX]	no idea if it is, really what I'm trying to figure out :D	[15:46]
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chibaguy	Poisen[BLX], wiki pages have a flat hierarchy, so I'm not sure what your "UserPageSomeone/Notes" means in that context.	[15:49]
luciash	Poison[BLX]: you have to put the pages in Structures feature but to achieve URLs like this you'd need to tweak your .htaccess rewrite rules or even Tiki code	[15:50]
Poison[BLX]	aha, I'll poke at the structures thing then, sounds like it might be what I'm looking for... the rewrite rules side of it's none to hard to beat into shape... I already went through and adjusted the bulk of them for lighttpd as is ;) thanky thanky.	[15:52]
luciash	welcome	[15:53]
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CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21422 10/branches/experimental/edit_fixup/ (77 files in 27 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 21290 to 21319	[16:06]
luciash	pretty cool, TikiWiki project is listed as 4th in CMS Systems and 2nd in Wiki category on sf.net sorted by Rank (default) http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove_list.php?form_cat=644	[16:07]
cheal	Rank is declining quickly though though the statistics have a too short timeframe	[16:15]
luciash	declining ?	[16:15]
cheal	luciash: http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/rank_history.php?group_id=64258&ugn=tikiwiki	[16:16]
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luciash	ah	[16:16]
CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21423 10/branches/experimental/edit_fixup/ (108 files in 32 dirs): [MRG] Automatic merge, trunk 21319 to 21421	[16:29]
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CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r21424 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] typos and adjustements for dynamic preferences	[16:55]
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CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r21425 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Adjustements for dynamic preferences tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r21426 10/trunk/styles/ (11 files in 5 dirs): [ENH] Improve CSS menus with better Superfish CSS consistency. tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r21427 10/users/chibaguy/trunk_themes/themes/ (27 files in 24 dirs): [ENH] Improve CSS menus with better Superfish CSS consistency. tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21428 10/trunk/templates/tiki-objectpermissions.tpl: [MOD] Better text on group selector label tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r21429 10/trunk/css/cssmenus.css: [ENH] Improve CSS menus with better Superfish CSS consistency.	[17:03]
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luciash	hi marclaporte i have added the keywords from description of tw project to tags on sf.net and made the description more descriptive marclaporte: couldn't find how to add screenshot in the new sf.net UI	[17:30]
marclaporte	hehe Are you in the mood to upgrade info.tw.o to Tiki3? I can do the upgrade, but I could use some help with template tweaking	[17:34]
luciash	ok, that sounds better for me :) please do the upgrade and i will help to fix it	[17:36]
marclaporte	super! you have the SSH?	[17:36]
luciash	yes	[17:38]
marclaporte	marclaporte makes a backup	[17:41]
luciash	are you going to put proposed branch there ?	[17:43]
marclaporte	sure	[17:47]
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marclaporte	install is very clean	[17:58]
luciash	cool	[17:58]
marclaporte	marclaporte will attempt to upgrade via TRIM	[17:59]
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luciash	marclaporte: do you know how to create new branch in SVN ? marclaporte: for gary	[18:07]
marclaporte	I dunno, but I think it's documented on dev.tw.o	[18:10]
luciash	ok	[18:10]
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marclaporte	TRIM doesn't let me used proposed, so I'll use branches/3.0	[18:24]
chibaguy	chibaguy realizes 3:30 a.m. is a good time to go to bed and says good night. :-)	[18:27]
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luciash	marclaporte: do you need to use TRIM for it ?[18:35] <marclaporte> no, I don't	[18:28]
marclaporte	just trying to dogfood	[18:35]
luciash	ok :) do we have time tracking via trackers ? luciash just trying www.toggl.com	[18:36]
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marclaporte	luciash: : yes	[18:49]
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marclaporte	search for timesheet on profiles site	[18:49]
luciash	marclaporte: any demo/doc on this ? marclaporte: ok, tnx	[18:49]
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marclaporte	luciash: your turn! http://info.tikiwiki.org/	[19:16]
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luciash	marclaporte: ok :)	[19:25]
marclaporte	marclaporte is fixing menu	[19:29]
luciash	luciash fixing the "family links"	[19:32]
	luciash ges to enable CSS menus marclaporte: do we need mootools enabled there ?	[19:38]
marclaporte	dunno	[19:39]
luciash	i don't think so luciash changing to cold theme option for strasa	[19:40]
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luciash	marclaporte: can you remove at least 3 sections from the menu 43 to have it fit on one line in 1024 wide screens ? there are too many items in the menu imho to make it easy for starters	[19:48]
marclaporte	ok	[19:51]
luciash	e.g. the Home link can go away and maybe the community and logout or edit instead of community also the items which are now sections with no suboptions must be changed to options otherwise they render empty submenus in CSS menu consultants, contact us and factsheet	[19:51]
CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21430 10/trunk/ (9 files in 5 dirs): tikiwiki: [MOD] Rewrite of {popup} Smarty function to use jQuery ClueTips properly. tikiwiki: Now initialises on first mouseover (or onclick) which should make page rendering lighter. tikiwiki: Most other references to overlib replaced in tpls. tikiwiki: Tested in filegals, calendars tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21431 10/third_party/jquery/jquery-tiki-readme.txt: [MOD] Doc update	[19:55]
luciash	luciash launches Inkscape	[20:04]
marclaporte	ok luciash: can the top menu be identical on all sites?	[20:06]
luciash	yes now it is on tw.o and info.tw.o, i will adjust on the others	[20:11]
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luciash	marclaporte: we're workin on it hard already 45 mins ;)	[20:14]
	marclaporte: can we re-use the !download" and "the product box" images from the design patrick made ?	[20:23]
marclaporte	yes!	[20:23]
CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r21432 10/branches/proposed/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX]perms: was not possible to include a page your were creator	[20:28]
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marclaporte	marclaporte changed profiles.tw.o top menu	[20:44]
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marclaporte	luciash: : do you have the produc box?	[20:47]
luciash	yes, currently modified the Downlaod box	[20:48]
marclaporte	marclaporte working on top menu :-)	[20:50]
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CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r21433 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [MOD]register: if a user did not validate his email and try to log-in - give him the possibility to resend the valiadtion email	[21:17]
marclaporte	sylvieg: : tks for this!	[21:23]
luciash	marclaporte: ^	[21:26]
marclaporte	beautiful! can you put capital F? SourceForge.net	[21:28]
luciash	ah, that was left by Patrick there i can try or remove it and put plain text over it then ? marclaporte: ^ marclaporte: :) i have to do something else now... will play with the site(s) later again	[21:29]
marclaporte	thanks!	[21:32]
luciash	marclaporte: oh, you removed the "Other tw.o websites" marclaporte: now the all links are not vertically aligned anymore in the bar, what else you removed ?	[21:36]
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luciash	i thought it looked better, what was the reason for you to remove the Home link and this text ?	[21:37]
marclaporte	yes, it did look better I kept code I am trying to make 6 sites looks like one as if it's 1 tree and each of the sites would have distinct sub-menu and get rid of duplication	[21:38]
luciash	ok, i will let you finish it and see then :)	[21:39]
marclaporte	and, then, let's make it look good again :-)	[21:42]
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