#tikiwiki 2009-09-21,Mon

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marclaporte	No such attachment on this page in wiki pages, when attach was working before (is this a known/fixed bug?)	[01:38]
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Tiki	Hello What is all this sql-files in the db-folder for? For example; tiki-secdb_3.1_mysql.sql and fulltext.sql etc? Because my update fails when trying to update from 2.0 to 3.0 =/	[06:32]
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CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r21623 10/trunk/ (8 files in 4 dirs): [FIX] Rename tiki3.(gif\|png) in tikisitelogo.(gif\|png) and modify all linked file to remove the version number	[09:09]
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CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03changi67 * r21624 10/branches/proposed/ (7 files in 4 dirs): [bp/21623] [FIX] Rename tiki3.(gif\|png) in tikisitelogo.(gif\|png) and modify all linked file to remove the version number	[09:15]
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CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03ricks99 * r21625 10/trunk/templates/tiki-change_password.tpl: [ENH]added <LABEL> elements for a11y, use of <b> is deprecated for <strong>	[11:49]
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Tiki	Hello	[11:53]
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CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r21626 10/trunk/ (37 files in 37 dirs): [FIX] Correct misleading text, plus mass correction of translations	[12:38]
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changi	Hi all !help	[12:47]
Tikiwiki\|bot	You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .	[12:50]
CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r21627 10/trunk/installer/schema/20090921_logo_tiki.sql: [FIX]logo: missing update	[12:53]
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ricks99	in latest TRUNK... i can access Admin pages for features that are disabled. is this by design?	[13:36]
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sylvieg	ricks99: yes because you need to prepare a feature - before activating it	[13:47]
ricks99	seems counter intutivie (to me)... why is it grayed out/	[13:50]
MacLeod	!help	[13:50]
Tikiwiki\|bot	You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .	[13:50]
MacLeod	What is the help button next to Advanced Search in module search_box supposed to do? It doesn't point to doc.tw.o. In IE, it ends up pointing to anchor #advanced_search_help on whatever page the user is viewing, but the anchor doesn't exist.	[13:51]
ricks99	@macleod: it displays the search help	[13:52]
MacLeod	@ ricks99: is it supposed to show a pop-up? I checked the template, but I don't know what that CAPTURE command is all about.	[13:53]
ricks99	y. it shows the content in the floading help	[13:54]
MacLeod	On what TW/OS/browser combo have you seen it work? It malfunctions for me in v3.1 on XP/IEv6, Vista/IEv7, and Vista/Firefox.	[13:55]
ricks99	do u have the floatin help (bbhb) enabled?	[13:56]
	works for me ff3 & ie8 (tw 3) also trunk (if that's what tw.o is running) ricks99 still hates the BBHB	[14:07]
CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r21628 10/trunk/templates/tiki-shoutbox.tpl: [FIX] Remove Tiki reference from user text tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r21629 10/branches/proposed/templates/tiki-shoutbox.tpl: [FIX] Remove Tiki reference from user text (trunk #21628)	[14:09]
Tiki	I get 2 errors when updating from 2.0 to 3.0: # 2008-10-04 lphuberdeau INSERT INTO `tiki_menu_options` (`optionId`, `menuId`, `type`, `name`, `url`, `position`, `section`, `perm`, `groupname`, `userlevel`) VALUES (197,42,'o','Mind Map','tiki-mindmap.php',255,'feature_wiki_mindmap','tiki_p_view','',0) Duplicate entry '197' for key 1 And: #2008-08-05 sylvieg ALTER TABLE tiki_quicktags ADD UNIQUE KEY no_repeats(taglabel(50), taginsert(50), tagicon(100), tagcategory(50)) Duplicate entry 'New Class-CLASS EXPRESSION () SYMBOL 0 OUTLINECOLOR COLO' for key 2 Anyone that has a clue? :)	[14:09]
ricks99	bbhb = Big Blue Help Button	[14:10]
MacLeod	Just turned on floating help. Still no joy.	[14:10]
ricks99	might be a problem with trunk. my ff shows it on http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-searchresults.php but ie does not but on my 3.0 branch install, i see it both ie & FF	[14:12]
MacLeod	I get an "Error on page" in my browser status bar.	[14:13]
Tiki	And another question.. When hitting the code-button inside the editor the popup isn't placed on top of everything. It's placed at the end of the page, below everything and the cross in the right top of the page. Anyone that have an idea why?	[14:14]
MacLeod	If the Floating Help feature is required for that button to work, it shouldn't display in the module if the feature isn't on.	[14:17]
ricks99	i take that back. my ie 8 shows fine on http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-searchresults.php	[14:17]
MacLeod	Maybe some other feature required?	[14:18]
ricks99	u get an error w/ IE on tiki-searchresults?	[14:18]
CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r21630 10/trunk/ (37 files in 37 dirs): [FIX] Remove Tiki reference from user text	[14:22]
MacLeod	I get a status bar error whenever I click the help button next to "Advanced Search" in module search_box, regardless of the page I'm viewing. When I double-click the error msg, the pop-up says "Exception thrown and not caught", whatever that means.	[14:23]
ricks99	not sure, i didnt think that BBHB was supposed to be for use within a module. im seeing it on tiki-searchresults and works	[14:25]
CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r21631 10/trunk/ (lib/userslib.php templates/mail/unsuccessful_logins.tpl): [MOD]login: add detail about last login attempt in the unsuccessful attempt	[14:28]
MacLeod	I can see in mod-search_box.tpl a CAPTURE block with the help text that is supposed to be displayed. And at the end of the template there's the link to show the info.	[14:31]
ricks99	u have the {add_help show.... stuff?	[14:36]
MacLeod	yes, that's in the template	[14:36]
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ricks99	no idea.	[14:39]
CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r21632 10/branches/proposed/ (lib/userslib.php templates/mail/unsuccessful_logins.tpl): [bp/ r 21631][MOD]login: add detail about last login attempt in the unsuccessful attempt	[14:40]
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MacLeod	@ricks99: just found that the module button works if I'm in edit mode, when the BBHB is displayed. However the advanced_search_help window doesn't show any controls for closing it.	[14:50]
ricks99	odd. for me the search help appears ONLY on the seach results page. if u r on the search results page, does the bbhb work for your search module?	[14:51]
MacLeod	No BBHB on tiki-searchresults.php. Error for module button.	[14:52]
ricks99	do u see bbhb on http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-searchresults.php	[14:52]
MacLeod	Yes. And it works.	[14:53]
ricks99	if u remove the search module on ur site, does the bbhb appear on search results page?	[14:53]
MacLeod	I'd like to see module-search_box on tw.o, and see if it works there. No. Module search_box disabled, and still no BBHB on tiki-searchresults. Hm, now I don't see it on tiki-editpage, either.	[14:53]
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MacLeod	Turned module search_box back on, and now I see the BBHB in edit mode again. Big Buggy Help Button	[15:00]
ricks99	no idea :( i always turn it off, myself	[15:03]
CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r21633 10/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Comment not being posted on the right page anymore in all_languages	[15:04]
MacLeod	@ricks99: It gets weirder. When I click the edit icon on a page, it points to tiki-index.php?page=blah+blah+blah#main (the "blahs" are example filler, but #main is not) I see the BBHB then. But when I preview the page I'm editing, the URL changes to tiki-editpage.php?page=blah%20blah%20blah and the BBHB disappears! Is there supposed to be a .php file for mod-search_box, because I don't see one. Just the .tpl file.	[15:18]
CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r21635 10/branches/proposed/ (37 files in 37 dirs): [FIX] Remove Tiki reference from user text (trunk #21630)	[15:29]
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CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r21636 10/trunk/lib/ (multilingual/multilinguallib.php setup/prefs.php): [NEW] Language inclusion threshold to prevent asking all users to specify languages when the site only supports a small number of languages	[15:38]
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CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r21637 10/trunk/ (7 files in 5 dirs): [MOD] Adding option in the admin section for the inclusion threshold, and the dependencies that follow tikiwiki: 03axold * r21638 10/trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): [MOD] Improved tiki-manage-workspaces.php interface, and added some missing thins in sql tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r21639 10/trunk/ (40 files in 37 dirs): [FIX] Remove Tiki reference from user text and associated mass language corrections	[16:18]
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CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03Jyhem * r21640 10/branches/proposed/ (41 files in 38 dirs): [FIX] Remove Tiki reference from user text and associated mass language corrections (trunk #21639)	[16:36]
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chibaguy	polom	[16:53]
jonnyb	polom2	[16:53]
chibaguy	MacLeod, are you around? What theme are you using, where the help button is a problem? Also, does the problem happen in all themes?	[16:54]
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CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r21642 10/trunk/ (9 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Convert all multilingual options to lesser magic	[16:58]
MacLeod	still here using theme tikinewt, with an options file for customization checking other themes...	[17:03]
CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03axold * r21643 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [MOD] Cleanning some duplicated code in tiki-manage-workspaces.php	[17:04]
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MacLeod	chibaguy, you've hit on something. it works in strasa. :)	[17:05]
chibaguy	MacLeod, what tiki version is this?	[17:09]
MacLeod	3.1 and in fact, in strasa, the BBHB doesn't even have to be enabled for the module button to work	[17:09]
CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21644 10/trunk/lib/wiki/histlib.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] Keep proper track of which editor should be used in history (using is_html) when rolling back. tikiwiki: Also moved code for appending the version number to the comment out of staging only section (and truncate if too long) as it seems helpful.	[17:11]
changi	http://dev.tikiwiki.org/DEB+Packaging for people who have time :)	[17:11]
chibaguy	Hm, I don't know how to get the ?-mark icon in the search module. What's the admin pref to get that? chibaguy thinks no wonder he hasn't checked theme behavior for features he doesn't know how to activate. ;-)	[17:15]
CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r21645 10/trunk/ (templates/tiki-all_languages.tpl tiki-all_languages.php): [ENH] Always display two first languages side by side	[17:19]
chibaguy	oh, I see. I was trying search_new module, not search_box. I get the big help button all the time now, in every theme I've tried so far. (I talked about this with luci, I think, that it doesn't make sense to display that button up in the corner of the page when the search box is, maybe, down out view. Oh yes, corrected in trunk. :-) MacLeod, maybe the problem is the CSS modifications. Anyway, time to sleep here.	[17:23]
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CIA-88	tikiwiki: 03mangapower * r21646 10/trunk/lib/workspaces/wslib.php: [FIX] Solved little bug in wslib.php	[17:32]
	tikiwiki: 03mangapower * r21647 10/trunk/db/ (5 files): [MOD] Restored WS queries, once more...	[17:42]
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sylvieg	jonnyb: ?	[19:15]
jonnyb	hi sylvieg	[19:15]
sylvieg	hi did you commit everything for sefurl in fgal? I have /dl1 not found now ah .. it is the _tiki	[19:15]
jonnyb	oh?	[19:16]
sylvieg	no .. you fixed it.... snif what happens with my local	[19:17]
jonnyb	dl1 still ok for me _htaccess got killed accidentally earlier on, but that shouldn't do that (unless you have a clever script updating .htaccess or something?) sounds htaccess related though...	[19:17]
sylvieg	yeh	[19:19]
MacLeod	http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Search+Bugs doesn't seem to be working.	[19:20]
sylvieg	svn: '_htaccess' is not under version control	[19:20]
jonnyb	hmm - it used to be, didn't it? http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Search+Bugs is fine for me MacLeod (dev is a bit intermittent these days)	[19:21]
MacLeod	try actually running a search	[19:22]
sylvieg	should have read the mailing list marc already got the error sorry jonnyb to have bothered you	[19:22]
jonnyb	i mentioned it to them on skype earlier - they fixed some of the errors, not that one sadly no worries :)	[19:23]
MacLeod	jonnyb: search is timing out	[19:23]
jonnyb	sounds likely - it's probably fall over completely soon (amette? you there?)	[19:24]
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SEWilco2	Is there a configuration which produces an upload progress bar?	[19:53]
amette	jonnyb: pong	[20:00]
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SEWilco2	Anyone using PECL extension uploadprogress to emit an upload progress bar?	[20:03]
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jonnyb	hi amette, how u?	[20:17]
amette	all over all very well, arrived in Berlin just two days ago just right now I'm panicking a bit - dev.tw.o's apache doesn't start and doesn't give any error message at all... :O	[20:17]
jonnyb	super - i'm watching telly (i always think of you now when i use that word ;)) ik, that sounds bad	[20:18]
amette	hehe :)	[20:18]
jonnyb	yup - nothing on dev from here :( you did full reboot?	[20:18]
amette	I'm working on it, but so far no clue - full reboot didn't help	[20:19]
jonnyb	is everything else there? (like mysql?)	[20:19]
amette	mysql is a different virtual machine	[20:20]
jonnyb	fair enough	[20:20]
amette	;)	[20:20]
jonnyb	so no point clearing tiki caches (if apache's no even there)... hmm don't think i can be of any help really (it wasn't me! :O )	[20:20]
amette	no problem, thanks - I'll report back, when I get it going	[20:22]
jonnyb	MacLeod: you still there? did dev.two fall over while you were watching? (not inferring it was your fault of course, just wondering if you might have any info that might help amette )	[20:23]
changi	try to launch apache in debug mode ?	[20:24]
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MacLeod	jonnyb: still here. dev has worked fine for me today, except for searching bug reports, which have been timing out every time. jonnyb: up until now, that is.	[20:27]
jonnyb	thanks MacLeod - was just wondering if it spat out any errors as a last gasp (poor thing!)	[20:28]
MacLeod	jonnyb: the last reponse i saw from dev was a time-out on a search.	[20:28]
jonnyb	This is Dog Food! :)	[20:29]
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SEWilco2	SEWilco2 lights incense as an offering to the smoke gods for not extracting the magic smoke from dev.tw.o	[20:45]
amette	which helped and made the magic smoke go back into dev.tw.o plain language: dev.tw.o is back up ;)	[20:46]
SEWilco2	SEWilco2 looks for his virtual incense to also protect the virtual server.	[20:47]
amette	ok, so now I won't be touching anything anymore to not make things worse and continue with unpacking my stuff	[20:48]
SEWilco2	SEWilco2 wonders how to unpack without touching anything.	[20:48]
amette	maaaaagick	[20:48]
SEWilco2	SEWilco2 does a bicycleta to put a sock in the sock drawer.	[20:49]
MacLeod	wanna see if dev breaks again when searching bug reports?	[20:49]
amette	go, hit it, MacLeod :)	[20:49]
SEWilco2	Sure. If it breaks, file a bug report.	[20:49]
MacLeod	and we're off...	[20:50]
SEWilco2	SEWilco2 don't say "off" to an old server!	[20:50]
MacLeod	it's thinking	[20:50]
SEWilco2	"I think I can"?	[20:51]
MacLeod	progress bar is crawling, MSIE flag is waving...	[20:51]
amette	yeah, it's a tough little girl... ;) ... tracker's code is eeeevil... :(	[20:51]
SEWilco2	I hope tracker holds together a while longer. Over a thousand entries here, I think.	[20:52]
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amette	thousand entries should be totally ok - I suspect the problem more to be with many fields ( just a wild guess )	[20:53]
MacLeod	progress bar looks stalled @ ~ 33%	[20:54]
amette	:( Kiss my ass!!! There was again the database totally locked up with this query.... ... this time it was even hanging twice - once with "sending data" and once with something like "writing statistics" or so.. so theoretically even dev.tw.o should have been dead, because both processors in the machine were under 100% load and there wouldn't have been any resources for answering doc.tw.o queries s/dev/doc	[20:54]
MacLeod	Search finally ended in a blank page; not even an error msg.	[20:59]
amette	ok, try again please	[21:00]
MacLeod	searching...	[21:00]
amette	you still had one of the old apache processes trying to answer your query... now try to get a new one which hopefully can connect cleanly to the database... ... otherwise I need to try to restart apache	[21:00]
MacLeod	what's your guess on the problem: tracker code, SQL, apache...? progress again looks stalled @ ~ 33% dev still seems to be working otherwise	[21:01]
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amette	hmmm.... then I almost suspect a bug in trackers... do you do some fancy query? does some more simple stuff work? actually - there is again this one query hanging!!!!! :O did you find the evil one query?!? :)	[21:05]
MacLeod	The query was Bug: Error, Version: 3.x, Feature: Help System, Related Project: Release30.	[21:06]
amette	\| 2784241 \| devtwo \| dev.tikiwiki.org:34009 \| devtwo \| Query \| 118 \| Sending data \| SELECT count(DISTINCT ttif.`itemId`) FROM ( `tiki_tracker_items` tti INNER JOIN `tiki_tracker_item_f \| 118 - are the seconds the query is now running and hanging I killed the query now after 230 seconds	[21:06]
MacLeod	heading home. bbl.	[21:08]
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amette	MacLeod: you wanna add that info to the bug? alright - get home well :)	[21:09]
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amette	>whatis slowdevtwo	[21:10]
Sug4r	'slowdevtwo' could be http://dev.tikiwiki.org/bug2549	[21:10]
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sylvieg	sorry amette - did not find yet a full free day - to change the query	[22:02]
amette	thanks sylvieg - I think we're cornering it ;)	[22:16]
sylvieg	sylvieg dreaming about the day where tw will be without bug - to have free time to develop things	[22:21]
amette	that's an awesome dream :)	[22:22]
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SEWilco2	for i in tiki-*.php; do; debug < $i > $i; done; # All debugged!	[22:43]
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c_schmitz	hi guys all the search results in our Wiki have "Relevance: 1" which is kinda non-saying how is relevance determined? and how can I possibly fix it?	[23:24]

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