sylvieg: I'm wondering how module _help functions work. could you direct me to see where mod_last_files_help, for example, could be called from? chealer: my guess is there is a mod_$variable() call someplace chealer: I'd try grep function_exists.*mod_ * Or grep mod.*help * SEWilco2: good idea SEWilco2: only found in modules/ chealer: That seems like the obvious place. SEWilco2: I mean, it's found in individual modules code, but not in libs or modules infrastructure Help for modules. That would only be needed in an Admin section for mods, I think. So the .php which creates the list of mods might use those help functions. Welcome to the official Tikiwiki English Irc Channel. TikiWiki or better known as TW, is your Groupware/CMS (Content Management System) solution, you can get more infomation at http://info.tikiwiki.org/ . Maybe tiki-mods.php calls those. SEWilco2: tiki-mods.php is for "modifications" mods. but tiki-admin_modules.php doesn't seem to call the help functions. chealer: Find the text emitted by one of those functions. Google for the string. See what page emitted it. SEWilco2: good idea, but doesn't seem to work found in code but nowhere else chealer: Maybe the names of mods are passed to *.tpl files which emit the HTML. Maybe tooltips, that Google wouldn't notice? SEWilco2: that would be particular, but I grepped the whole tree anyway. maybe I see some popup text at bottom of tiki-admin_modules.php page. Shows parameters. chealer: The "Assign new module" area has a help icon by "Parameters". That looks like the only place that makes sense. SEWilco2: yeah, but it doesn't look like anything more than a link to http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Module+Parameters chealer: Maybe when one edits an existing module it changes? Or is AJAX needed to change it when one selects a module? chealer: Or maybe someone needs to enhance that part of the page to actually use the _help info. SEWilco2: what does it mean to have AJAX enabled, just javascript on the browser or what? chealer: It tends to be more network-active javascript. Ordinary javascript would probably load all of the parameter help at page startup. SEWilco2: I mean, it doesn't change for me when editing an existing module, so how would I enable AJAX besides enabling javascript? SEWilco2: that's a bit what I'm wondering, yes chealer: I think nobody is presently using the _help info. If it was being used, it should be on that page. SEWilco2: yeah, I'm suspecting the same tikiwiki: 03chealer * r21942 10/trunk/modules/mod-func-last_images.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] missing galleryId param declaration tikiwiki: oops tikiwiki: 03chealer * r21943 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): tikiwiki: [ENH] change last_files module to new module style (modules-doc). tikiwiki: [FIX] HTML special chars encoding lost uh, sorry Oh, you did that? Ouch. tikiwiki: 03chealer * r21944 10/trunk/lib/categories/categlib.php: somewhat document last_category_objects() tikiwiki: 03chealer * r21945 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): tikiwiki: [ENH] change last_category_objects module to new module style (modules-doc). tikiwiki: [FIX] HTML special chars encoding tikiwiki: [FIX] maxlen notices tikiwiki: [MOD] Change module title to "Last category objects", fixing some poor cases. This is still far from ideal evening guys, anyone know how to remove users' theme preferences and force them back to a single theme? Info: Rick Sapir and Pascal Kustner nominated to the Tiki Admin Team - http://info.tikiwiki.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=73 ok, does anyone know why every time i save an edit, it gets added to the existing content, rather than replacing it? Petey_: what do you mean by saving an edit? i click the edit button, make changes in the editor and click "save" the result is my changes, PLUS what was already on the page Petey_: and what do you mean by your changes here? could you show us? i could, but i'd have to give you admin on the wiki, which i'd rather not do. i guess i could change the password real quick :) go here: http://wiki.routecloud.com login with admin/kevlar and edit the home page try deleting the duplicate text, you'll end up with 3 copies of it Petey_: I don't see the problem look at the page now i tried deleting your paragraph. i added a new user, and everything works fine... login as admin, and that happens deleting all the content seems to work Petey_: I edited as admin. perhaps you can do a screencast hmm. let me see do you have gotoMeeting installed? if you do, join meeting: 887-035-440 Petey_: no bummer windows box? i can link a WMV of the problem or i can convert it to an FLV Petey_: no, but I can read most WMV-s k.. i'll post it up here in a second ...actually, the only problematic codec I know of is MSS2, which IIRC is specifically for screencasts :/ but we'll see checkout the video: http:/wiki.routecloud.com/petey/tiki-issue.wmv Petey_: I see - did you try that with a decent browser, just in case? IE, chrome and Safari on PC and Mac i watched the HTTP traffic during the submission, the POST is correct, it contains just my changes so it's happing on the server Petey_: which Tiki version do you use? 3.2 Petey_: ...do you know PHP/algorithms? enough to be dangerous i'm a java guy during the day :) if i create a new user, and gran him admin, the problem goes away. so it's related to the Admin account, and not permissions. Petey_: you could try xdebug and figure out the problem or just send us a trace. Petey_: someone else hit that issue: http://irc.tikiwiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2009-05-27,Wed&sel=630#l626 good to know i'm not alone :) do you have a bug tracking url? i could post the data there when i get it Petey_: yes, http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Report+a+Bug um... it's gone now can't reproduce it any mroe no, it's back now. Petey_: you could also start by gathering an SQL log tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21946 10/trunk/templates/tiki-upload_file.tpl: [FIX] Missing quote typo (was making description textarea not appear) hello jonnyb: is it still posible to edit/add custom icons to the toolbars ? cannot find it in trunk hi luciash yes, i think i fixed it, but no one else has used it (or found it) :) it's on toolbars admin still needs a "new" button - but if you drag a tool onto the custom tools list it'll bring up a dialog any tool ? ok i will try heh, yep, it brings up the dialog but i have white text on very light input fileds :-p odd - i fixed that (on strasa i think) oh, let me finish the svn up then ;) what should go to the "Wysiwyg Token" filed btw ? depends what you want it to do in wysiwyg (has to be something fck editor understands) *field New Forum Posts: I don't even have "tiki_p_plugin_approve" - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=34806 needs some documentation, doesn't it :) i saved but now i need to edit it again... is it still possible ? double click it? aah :-p the Edit tool is jQuery UI ? sf.net is not in a good mood it seems :-/ svn: SSL negotiation failed: Secure connection truncated jonnyb: works nicely, thanks for help :)) yup, jquery ui dialog would be nice to use that all over the place damn, don't press ctrl+z in wrong window ;) yep, i was also thinking about *boxification of the plugin edit helper or even section edits... but jQuery UI could be also an option *boxification == shadowboxification/colorboxification ;) what is a general term for all those *boxes ? lightbox/greybox/shadowbox/colorbox/fancybox etc- thickbox, thinbox... they are legion :) wikipedia says "modal window" ? or "modal box" but it is more for confirmation dialogs wow: http://planetozh.com/projects/lightbox-clones/ ;) "somehow cool CSS popups" :-p oh, the matrix says colorbox cannot display flash :-o !? latlink: Admin page will tell you if the db needs upgrade but it's always safe to go to installer and re-run the upgrade aah nope, you have to check manually if your mysql version is up-to-date you have to go to see what min. version is recommended and then mysql -v i guess (or see in your phpmyadmin) fine so as i told you, if it says nothing on Admin, your db is upgraded to match the Tiki version you use otherwise it will tell you your db needs upgrade i am not sure now, maybe on Admin > General :) latlink_: the problem is sometimes devs forgot to add the upgrade schemas in trunk ;) latlink__: it will not help you anyway unless someone adds the upgrade scripts... the db/*.sql changes will apply only on fresh installs latlink__: you can check the code of admin page what it checks if db is up-to-date latlink__: some newbie devs don't know what everything is necessary to update and commit yes, your database requires update... that is what you were looking for ;) so your db is not up-to-date just go to installer and upgrade then the message will disappear latlink: np luciash: the inline popup was not working on my local yesterday because ther is an interference with the comments - If I desactive wiki comments - it works fine - need to debug that.. sylvieg: hmm, isn't there FADE plugin in one of the comments ? or was it with the #foo ? Ido not know yet why do i get an error message if i try to integrate a module into a wiki page? e.g.: {MODULE(module="shoutbox")}{MODULE} "An error occured in a database query!" any details ? maybe your db is not upgraded ? what do you mean by "upgraded"? i just installed a fresh version 3.2... Query: INSERT INTO tiki_plugin_security (fingerprint, status, added_by, last_objectType, last_objectId) VALUES(?, ?, ?, ?, ?) Built query was probably: INSERT INTO tiki_plugin_security (fingerprint, status, added_by, last_objectType, last_objectId) VALUES('module-d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e-d74d9a3fd17f9649f670297b3eb75fb8-000000-340000', 'pending', 'admin', 'wiki page', 'Test') HerrPi: goto tiki-install.php and do the upgrade step buenas luci: ok, i did that step but it didn't work... HerrPi: oh, then it sound like a new bug in 3.2 :( HerrPi: does it with other modules too ? HerrPi: except shoutbox yeah, with the minichat, too! :( you got the zip from sf.net and all files extracted properly ? tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r21947 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php: notice yes! HerrPi: can you please report a bug ? >devtwo Report+a+bug?fullscreen=y http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Report+a+bug?fullscreen=y tikiwiki: 03robferguson * r21948 10/trunk/ (styles/strasa.css templates/modules/mod-last_blog_posts.tpl): [FIX] added space for blog posts in module and fixed siteloginbar position tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r21949 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_tracker.php: [FIX]TRACKER: need also to keep autoincrement for a pertty tracker without fields param chealer: Hey, I've got that xdebug you asked for. It isn't very revealing so maybe there's a setting that I can use to get more verbose. chealer:http://pastebin.com/d3a0d2fdd chealer: I went to http:///tiki_login.php in a browser to get that. sylvieg: any idea what embedded=y does in TRACKER plugin ? luciash - lookink at teh code it is about the tricky field name 'page' that do an automatic filter ... old stuff i looked at the code and couldn't decipher it anyway :) luciash: yeah, i will report a bug as soon as i have the time! thanks for the help! HerrPi: np, you're welcome I explain better if a field is name 'name' TRACKERLIST and TRACKER filters on th item that has the field name = param page need to document that soemwhere it is bad .. and it is replaced now with the page selector i thought page= is for wiki page templates of Pretty Tracker as opposed to the tpl= param sylvieg: ah sorry, you don't mean the param page of the TRACKER plugin but the fieldtype, ok the param in the url I would like to kill this feature i completely have no clue, so i believe you know what to do best ;) it is a bad implementation of the page selector (like rating) by the way that repose on a field name - bad bad... people can call a field page or rating if they want... is there a way to watch file attachment in wiki? watch for changes ? i don't think so when somebody uploads a file in a wiki page .. I though the feature was there - but can notm find the setiing... sylvieg: it should be the same as when comment is added the implementation another thing: if i want to change a few specific translations in the tiki system (some menu entries or other stuff). can i just change the language.php file or how do i apply my changes? it is more easier to put the string in local tiki-admin.php?page=i18n -> customized string translation easier for next upgrade sylvieg: does it work with lang/cs/custom.php ? yes I think so - if I remember well the admin panel stores .. in the_lang/custom.php i will test ;) perhaps you need a write perm on the directory the problem is that some of the left menu entries aren't translated into german at all. i just added a customized string translation. but nothing is changed... clear all the cache tiki-admin_system.php?do=all and HerrPi you are welcome to join the team to add more translations ok, it worked! the problem was, that some words of some strings were capitalized in the php but not on the website... darn, i wonder why file upload doesn't work on my test site of proposed branch (it says at the upload page 10M is max size and the image is less than 2M) ah, it must be "Store in database" problem :( it should warn me at least tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r21950 10/trunk/lang/pt-br/language.php: pt-br translation polom hello chibaguy luciash, how are you and how are things going? :-) great :) nobody wants to kill me yet ;) chibaguy: greetings to d. from a. :) that's good news. :-) d. also sends greetings to a. how about you ? no tsunami yet ? (i hope) no, we're far away from that this time. I was wondering about franck, but I guess he's ok. yeah those islands weren't affected i guess tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21951 10/trunk/lib/cache/cachelib.php: [FIX] Stop the multi-tiki dirs being deleted when flushing caches how do rss feeds work exactly ? when downloaded and somehing is then changed they don't get updated, right ? i mean when permissions change... only when there is new content, right ? so when something leaks to rss feed and then the permissions for that page get fixed, it is too late... is that correct ? themurph: oh, right, there's a problem in debugging redirections - the second page serve overwrites the first trace - I'll try to remember the workaround themurph: I think the trick is to set "xdebug.trace_output_name = trace.%R.%c", which should allow you to get both traces - the one that matters is the first chealer: I saw something about appending to traces, let me try that. tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21952 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/block.popup_link.php: tikiwiki: [ENH] Allow CSS class to be set on popup_links tikiwiki: (also removed no jQuery warning as it's 'always on' and this is irrelevant if JS disabled) tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21953 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): tikiwiki: [FIX] Show all group columns if number of groups has changed (thanks LP) tikiwiki: Also make show/hide groups link look like a button. tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21954 10/trunk/lib/tiki-js.js: [MOD] New getCaretPos() function (not tested in IE as yet) tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21955 10/trunk/lib/ (jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php): tikiwiki: [ENH] Autocomplete page names in wiki edit - type "((" to initiate. tikiwiki: Only in Firefox as yet, more to come... chealer: holy crap-sicle! for some reason the installer didn't put in the /db/local.php file. So I copied over the one from the previous install and it's working like a charm @ #tikiwiki: Some of our RSS links to external feeds erroneously point to our Tiki root directory. Any idea if this is a Tiki (v3.1) problem, or perhaps related to the configuration of the external feed source? chealer: Thanks a lot chealer! I really didn't want to go through the hassle of something like xdebug since this project was only a favor for a friend but I really learned a lot. MacLeod: I have several external RSS feeds and they seem OK. Maybe someone forgot http: ahead of the feed URL? Many of our external feeds are linked correctly, too. I'm not familiar with the different formats, though, and thought perhaps Tiki may not play nice with some of them. MacLeod: For site feeds (RSS from the server) I had other configuration irritations, like the feed's URL being the RSS URL instead of the object's URL. We don't publish any site feeds from our Tiki (which is internal-only), so I haven't seen any of those errors. MacLeod: Having trouble with a feed content should not affect the URL to retrieve data from. Maybe you should clarify "erroneously point to our Tiki root directory". What has what value? There's one other external RSS bug that I think *is* Tiki: it inserts a into the URL of feeds from Google News. This started happening after we upgraded to v3.1. To clarify: The feed is correctly displaying its headlines. However, the hyperlink for the headline points to Tiki root. MacLeod: Grrr. Yeah, someone must have forgotten to not clean those inputs. The problem is a separate issue. (Don't want to confuse things more than I am.) The feed's URL in the external RSS admin page is correct, but the feed's URL where the feed is displayed is not pointing to the external site? Check which tool you're using to display the RSS feed (the RSS plugin or an RSS module) and then check on dev.two.o for any bug reports for that tool. Whatever tool you're using, if the problem is bad info in the RSS feed, the tool really shouldn't generate a hyperlink at all. The last time I searched bugs on dev, the site crashed. :( Great. We used to have a guy like that at work. We had him test all the major changes. He managed to crash the terminal server through a timing bug. tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r21956 10/trunk/lib/ (2 files in 2 dirs): tikiwiki: [FIX] Errors (Missing arguments for Multilingual_MachineTranslation_GoogleTranslateWrapper::__construct()) tikiwiki: I guessed what they might be... tikiwiki: Also fixed compile errors in GoogleTranslateWrapper (unescaped $s) while is was there. tikiwiki: Seems to still work. It's possible the external site has bad info. If you're on Linux, you can use wget to fetch the data. Maybe they used a relative URL where an absolute URL is required. Yes, the feed's URL in the RSS admin page is correct, but when the feed is displayed on a page, the hyperlinks on the feed title and its headlines point to Tiki root. We're using the Smarty rss plugin. (Isn't the plugin the only RSS display tool in v3.x?) I've also displayed RSS feeds in a module, but I don't remember if there is a module for that or if I used the RSS plugin in a user module. Sounds like you found some sort of bug in the RSS plugin. It's either an error in processing the URL, or in trying to display a URL when no URL is available. If there is a valid channel URL in the RSS data, then it's a URL processing bug. What is the RSS feed's URL? I can look at the data. tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r21957 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX]popup: to avoid to have the box at an absolute position - that can never work in the calendar as the day boxes have not fixed width - place relative to the cursor looking for a specific feed... SEWilco2: Here's one - http://orthospinenews.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default MacLeod: I don't see any bad href URLs for the feed. And it's in Atom format, which is common enough that it should work. MacLeod: So either the RSS reader isn't finding something it needs, or the RSS plugin is dropping the URL before emitting the link. MacLeod: Look for a similar bug report and file a new one if one doesn't exist. Include that RSS URL so someone can test with it. Mention your version of TW. MacLeod: Oh, nice. A bone-like putty. Some surgeons will find that useful. SEWilco2: Thx, will do. tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r21958 10/trunk/styles/layout/layout.css: [FIX] Correct module-flip icon no-display|display in custom modules. Is it planned to kill wiki attachmnets and to replace them by fgal - like the job is done for the image I think by "wiki attachments" you mean files attached to wiki pages. Good. Those have some uses but are hard to administer. Oh, good. The wiki attachments weren't searchable, but filegals are text searchable. Dammit, my bug search of dev timed out again. I haven't had a successful bug search on dev.tw.o for weeks. MacLeod: OK, file a bug report on search. :-( Am I the only one having this problem? MacLeod: how do you do the search? chealer: 1. http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Search+Bugs 2. Report type: select all "Bug" types 3. Version: 3.x and 4.x 4. Feature: RSS 5. Related project: Leave at default "Any" 6. Click "Filter" button. 7. Wait for many minutes. 8. Read error message. 9. Want new dogfood. MacLeod: results appear fairly quickly Perkele! So it IS working for others! Perkele?!? LOL :D heh aaah, nice :) hi amette :) heya, bracho nice to c u still keep an eye on this channel ;) sure, not very active currently, but I'm always with you guys ;) sylvieg or anyone... is there rule to commit only one revision backport to proposed ? at one shot or can i commit more revisions as backport in one ? sylvieg: can i commit more revisions as backport in one ? yes or only one trunk rev merge per backport ? non better to have one 'conceptual' commit ok, so i have to write like [bp/rXXXXX][bp/r... ? luciash - do you remember where there is a javascript confirmation in tw? usually I do [bp/r xxxx, yyyy] but I do not think nyloth need a special syntax ok i don't remember sylvieg: any luck on trackers items for category transitions/perspectives/workspaces ? not today again - I need to go away from internet next week hehe comme take a week off in Orlando :-) so .. no one for the javascript confirmation popup... confirm.tpl I think.. maybe, what you need it for ? amette says "always with you", then an IRC storm knocks everyone out. Timing! in TRACKER - to delete an attach sylvieg: ah, nice hmm what is the name of the breadcrumb module now? wasn't it KILled ? he? was very useful for debug in trunk i just guess nothing sure :) was rename recently visited pages ... I will haev choose Last phew ;) tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r21959 10/trunk/tiki-admin_modules.php: [FIX]modules: at least sort a little -> todo sort with no case tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r21960 10/trunk/lib/setup/editmode.php: global anybody knows where is initial $user defined ? cannot grep it tiki-setup_base I bet look around user_cookie sylvieg: tnx tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r21962 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] lesser magic deployment to messages admin grid pkdille: hi, wouldn't it be slower ? polom marclaporte: what if we want to change from table layout to divs ? or add something special to the preference ? (extra note or more cells if table so another colspan would be needed...) luciash: : you can always continue to have full control if you leave as now I expect that 5-10% will never be converted because it's too specific/complex i mean it will be cleaner code in templates for sure but fear loosing context and slowdown because of all the processing of arrays admin panel: do we care if it's slow? To improve templates: http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Dynamic+Preferences#Templates so only some general repetitible prefs will be put like this ? sure admins get angry if it will slow down ;) yes, all checkboxes, drop downs hehe >bug 2777 see http://dev.tikiwiki.org/bug2777 someone forgot something there before 3.2 release tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r21963 10/trunk/ (7 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] lesser magic deployment to copyright admin grid