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CIA-75: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r22125 10/trunk/lib/ (core/lib/TikiDb.php tikilib.php): [FIX] PostgreSQL: fix to avoid invalid input syntax for integer: "value" (sorry, the previous didn't work)
luciash: default barebones installation now works in Postgres
CIA-75: tikiwiki: 03luciash * r22126 10/trunk/lib/wiki/semanticlib.php:
tikiwiki: [MOD] semanticlib: adding backticks to camelCase names
tikiwiki: [FIX] PostgreSQL: editing wiki page now works
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ndowens: Ok I am trying to create a menu on the top bar, so people can click on it to go to that page. kinda like the bar at the very top of the tiki homepage
I have been trying to work with the menu option in admin but I can't figure it out, maybe someone could point me to the right direction
anyone please
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chibaguy: ndowens, menus are made at tiki-admin_menus.php.
when the menu is created, it gets an id number.
Then you enter that number in the topbar menu id box on tiki-admin.php?page=look
go to http://doc.tikiwiki.org for details.
ndowens: thx
I almost got it. but it only shows the option when I am signed in as admin, even though I have it set to show with anonymous as well
chibaguy: don't understand why the menu goes away after sign out
chibaguy: try clearing your caches (tiki-admin_system.php). Other than that, I don't know.
also try clearing your browser's cache
ndowens: nope
chibaguy: I recall seeing that problem (reports), but don't know what the solution is. Maybe somebody will read the log here and have an answer.
ndowens: I just cleared out my database for it, and gonna retry again, maybe I did something wrong, no clue
only thing left that i know to try
chibaguy: ok
ndowens: still does it
chibaguy: as I said, maybe someone else will see the irc log and have an answer. It's the slow time of day in this channel, still.
ndowens: well i figured out how to do it on the left side of page :-) it's a start
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luciash: hi
hey chibaguy, mollio theme looks realy good
i like the styling on menus especially ;)
chibaguy: hi luciash
yes, the designer(s) of mollio made some good things to use for tiki :-)
the menu dropdown background images are cool, but afaik they prevent the menu from having a shadow, since they are the ul background already.
luciash: but you made the styling of the menus ! :)
ah
it looks cool without the shadow too
chibaguy: yeah, a good tradeoff.
I'll commit the files to svn users/ pretty soon.
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chibaguy: the original mollio also uses one image file for a lot of the icons, displaying them as sprites, with big -margins to offset, etc. Some good ideas to learn from.
mostly I carried over the same css for tiki.
luciash: yep, sprites are nice
chibaguy: maybe something to think about for tiki 5, if there's nothing else to do ;-)
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luciash: haha
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Bamieater: how can I show the edit fields of a tracker form for Anonymous users? using the PluginTracker to display the form, it lists the field name, but doesn't list the edit fields
Anonymous has the permission tiki_p_create_tracker_items
luciash: Bamieater: try the TRACKER plugin in a wiki page
otherwise you need to assign perm tiki_p_modify_tracker_items
Bamieater: luciash: this you mean? {TRACKER(trackerId=>1, action=>Verstuur, showmandatory=>y, embedded=>n)}Bedankt voor uw bestelling. We nemen zo spoedig mogelijk contact met u op.{TRACKER}
yeah, I have that in a wiki page
as admin it does display the names + edit fields, as anonymous user it does display the names, but doesn't display the edit fields
luciash: Bamieater: i understand, i have it working somehow here:
Bamieater: i can have a look what i have set there
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luciash: Bamieater: {TRACKER(email="|57|custom_thank_you.tpl",fields="52:53:54:55:56:57:58", trackerId="4", action="Odeslat", colwidth="20%", url="tiki-index.php?page=Děkujeme")}{TRACKER}
Bamieater: tiki_p_create_tracker_item is enough
Bamieater: hmm
let me try to quote the parameters first
luciash: Bamieater: make sure your fields have "Field is public? (viewed in trackerlist plugin)" set
Bamieater: yes, was about to ask that next, how you setup the fields :-)
luciash: Bamieater: i think that should do the trick for you
Bamieater: Field is public is checked
Field is hidden: not hidden
Visible/editable by: Anonymous
luciash: Bamieater: i ave nothing else set for these fields
it is 3.1
Bamieater: hmm
2.x
upgrading to 3.x breaks a lot of other features, so that's not an option
so only Field is public checked, will try to remove all those other options first
luciash: i bet that's the problem for you... was probably fixed in 3.x
Bamieater: then I am sure it isn't a pebkac issue ;-)
luciash: you can try tiki_p_modify_tracker_item but then anonymous can edit every tracker item i guess
Bamieater: hmm, but the 2.x documentation states it should work
yeah, tried tiki_p_modify_tracker_item also
luciash: Bamieater: you can also try to get only the plugin from 3.x
and replace yours
Caarrie: Bamieater: are you sure that the page has not been updated [the doc] to 3.x ?
Bamieater: yeah, or check which bugs are fixed
Caarrie: docs mentioned 2.x
Caarrie: you could also try to let the devs like luciash
know what issuse are with 3.x
*issues
so they can be fixed or they can tell you what can be done to fix them on your end
they do sometimes have security fixes that could be important to your site
Bamieater: yeah, but 2.x -> 3.x breaks a lot of features in our case
luciash: Bamieater: btw, only speciality checkbox i have ticked on tiki-admin_trackers.php?trackerId=4 is "Only one item per user or IP" if that matters
Bamieater: hmm
luciash: but i don't guess so
Caarrie: Bamieater: and my point is you should let the devs know what breaks so they can fix it or tell you how to fix it, saying it does not work does not fix the issue with the upgrade
they are working on the next major release already so you will only fall further behind with fixes and security issues
luciash: Caarrie: i guess it is fixed in 3.x and we won't fix it for 2.x ;)
Caarrie: i figured that luciash
so an upgrade and fixing his other issues could help ;)
Bamieater: Caarrie: yeah, I will check the diffs between 2.x and 3.x of plugintracker
luciash: ah, the other issues, right :)
Caarrie: Bamieater: that is not my point
Bamieater: ah
Caarrie: Bamieater: it is all your issues
why you cant upgrade and what does not work when you do
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luciash: Caarrie: maybe php4 ? ;)
Caarrie: sounds like he has tried to upgrade already, so i dont think so
Bamieater: already discussed this in this channel with someone else and decided to roll back to 2.x
CIA-75: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22128 10/trunk/lib/ajax/tiki-ajax.js: [FIX] Don't show big grey box of AJAX triggered by something other than loadComponent (e.g. autosave)
Caarrie: well maybe they were not the only one that could help Bamieater
there are many devs here at different times with different abilities to help
Bamieater: yeah, have php5 :-)
CIA-75: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22129 10/trunk/lib/userslib.php: [NEW] New function to get all perm features
Caarrie: you could explain to luciash and see what he suggests
luciash: Bamieater: if you reported a bug you can point to it here using >bug XXYY
where XXYY is the ID of the bug
Caarrie: >bug luciash
Sug4r`: see http://dev.tikiwiki.org/bugluciash
CIA-75: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22130 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.treetable.php: [ENH] New param for treetable to allow HTML in column data
luciash: :)
Caarrie: i am not an ID ;)
Caarrie: you so sure?
Bamieater: luciash: I think there are no bugs involved
luciash: gotta code, bbl
Caarrie: Bamieater: if it does not work right it is a bug
Bamieater: one big issue is that the theme will break, but that's already known
Caarrie: many people have upgraded from 2.x to 3.x with no issues and not spoken up about things that have broken
Bamieater: can't really remember everything
there was a problem with FancyTable
Caarrie: well you could copy your db and run an upgrade seperatly and see what happens and let the devs help fix the issues
Bamieater: but iirc that was fixed immediately
Caarrie: ok
Bamieater: I also tried loads of upgrade paths
2.x -> 3.0 -> 3.1 for example
Caarrie: well unless you list your issues again and what seems to break or not work as expected none of the devs can help you, and therefore you cant take advantage of fixes and new features
Bamieater: yeah, will dive into it again :-)
Caarrie: ok
Bamieater: thank you guys for your help so far :-)
CIA-75: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22131 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
tikiwiki: [ENH] New features picker tab for object perms.
tikiwiki: Various other fixes and minor improvements.
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sylvieg: How can I rate a forum post .. I see the score value. But I do not see where I can scrore it?
found it - I can not vote my own post ;-)
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chibaguy: I wonder what the problem is when css menu dropdowns stay dropped down (open), until I reload the page. this happens at a trunk installation updated by ftp (so some old redundant files are there too)
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chibaguy: I replaced css and jquery so far, and no improvement.
mm, maybe it's fixed now....
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chibaguy: no, on some pages the menu (topbar css) gets stuck in the open position (everything dropped down).
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chibaguy: but not consistently, and not so much now. maybe it just needed loosening up ;-)
luciash: chibaguy: it happened to me with JS off
chibaguy: maybe i have a js file that's broken.
Also, something is strange about the Mollio theme at this site: when a page loads, all the topbar menu dropdowns drop down and stay down until the page finishes loading. I don't see that in other themes.
Only the theme css is different.
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chibaguy: ....something to try to find
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CIA-75: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22133 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: missing prefs
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sylvieg: Is there a way to put a registration box in a wiki page?
jonnyb: hi sylvie
sylvieg: hi
jonnyb: isn't there a plugin to put modules in pages? (in fact, didn't you write it?) :)
sylvieg: but registration is not a plugin or a module??
jonnyb: oh yes, of course... (i was thinking of the login module)
sylvieg: ah - there is a mod-register
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CIA-75: tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22134 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [FIX]register: to have the module witht eh same behavior that tiki-register.php (ex: ask for groups)
c_schmitz: hi
is there a way to NOT have the advances search enabled by default?
*advanced
since it is buggy
Tikiwiki|bot: Info: Tiki turns 7 years old. Happy Birthday Tiki! - http://info.tikiwiki.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=75
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stripmind: marclaporte: first time we've been on again at the same time! you had asked if my WSOD problem was also duplicated when using {content id=#} rather than {rcontent id=#}. The answer is no. rcontent pretty reliably creates a WSOD though.
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marclaporte: stripmind: ok, I am not surprised
did you report a bug?
probably a remnant of major overhaul of plugins
stripmind: i can do that.
glad to hear i'm not crazy.
marclaporte: I didn't say your weren't crazy :-)
stripmind: :)
marclaporte: if you have short content, perhaps you could use cookie feature
stripmind: I had text formatting in my dynamic content that woulnd't fit in cookies. for now I suppose I can use dates to rotate text.
marclaporte: did you try to look at code?
if your error messages are activated (ex: via debug profile), do you see an error message with a line number?
-: marclaporte just used duplicate tracker for the first time (amazing!!)
stripmind: i'm as green as they come when it comes to debugging.
but willing to learn?
marclaporte: Happy birthday Tiki! http://info.tikiwiki.org/article75
stripmind: super!
so 1st thing is to look at code and try to detect obvious errors
stripmind: i was going to try and replicate the problem at: http://demo.opensourcecms.com/tiki/tiki-login.php, but can't seem to login as admin saw the password as admin and as demo, neither seem to work.
marclaporte: lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_rcontent.php
open that file on your system
do you see ?> at the end?
stripmind: sure
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chibaguy: Do people usually make menu section links (top-level link in a menu that has children) a link to something, not just href="#" (current page)? It's been irritating to me lately to have "#" links because I click on them and just get a page refresh. ;-)
I noticed some of these on my sites and on tiki project sites.
convenient/necessary in order to have the child links, but maybe it should always be a link with content itself, even if (logically) an intro page to whatever the children have in common.
I think a usability expert would have something (not good) to say about a top link Try Me! (a href="#") with one child Demo (a href="demo page url").
:-)
marclaporte: stripmind: : remove it
stripmind: k
-: chibaguy has menus to reorganize
marclaporte: stripmind: : did that help?
Kissaki: polom
what does polom mean anyway? Is it the sound you do stumbling into the chan?
luciash: polom
>whatis polom
Sug4r`: 'polom' could be (#1) a geeky greeting in #tikiwiki channel, simmilar to hello ;), or (#2) a common greeting in #tikiwiki that is often mirrored for answering like 'moloq' or 'bolow' or answer whatever you feel like right now, or (#3) a greeting in #tikiwiki that was once used by someone and quickly stuck to become common culture of the community, or (#4) just some word of babytalk ;P
Kissaki: I'll stick with sumbling
luciash: chibaguy: i agree
Kissaki: marclaporte we're moving away from the deadline :P http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Database+independence
from yesterday when I checked we already made several hours away from the deadline
luciash: deadlines are to be extended ;)
marclaporte: plausible promise is the key thing
jonnyb: "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." Douglas Adams
marclaporte: hahahahahahahahahahah
luciash: :D
Kissaki: :)
whos that
luciash: damn, he doesn't know Douglas Adams !
>google "Douglas Adams"
Sug4r`: Error: Error connecting to Google.com.
luciash: oups
MacLeod: kissaki: Turn in your towel.
jonnyb: :D
Caarrie: !google douglas adams
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Kissaki: me
chealer: polom
Kissaki: I have a deadline for my report coming up as well...
but *wooosh* would probably not be as fun or good...
chealer: profiles.tw.o seems down
Kissaki: yay!
marclaporte: server is overloaded
if some people want to join me to try http://bigbluebutton.org/tryout
stripmind: marclaporte, unfortunately, rcontent still makes WSOD. Fatal error: Call to undefined method TikiLib::get_random_content() in ...
marclaporte: at least, you have error message
not WSOD :-)
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stripmind: true!
marclaporte: was this by removing the ?>
stripmind: no, this was enabling error messages.
marclaporte: same error messages for the old and changed versions of wikiplugin_rcontent.php
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stripmind: interestingly, I noticed something else, when I accidentally misnamed wikiplugin_rcontent.php to wikiplugin_rcontentphp (no . before php) WSOD disappeared. rcontent seemed to randomize and display content. However- the error that seemed to be introduced in 3.0 was still present. Namely, the text formatting of the dynamic content was not correctly displaying, ie not parsing tiki text-formatting syn
tax.
errr... or something like that. does that make sense?
luciash: stripmind: oh, seems conflict between plugin {RCONTENT() /} and {rcontent} wiki syntax to me, because recently the syntax was made more universal and plugins can be called using lowercase {pluginname} syntax too
actually, now plugins can be called as {PN(p1=>foo,p2=>bar)}{PN} or {PN(p1=foo p2=bar) /} or {pn p1=foo p2=bar} etc.
stripmind: Well, I'm getting the WSOD when I put {rcontent id=1} into an assigned module.
luciash: try to put it there as {wiki}{rcontent id=1}{/wiki}
also do you have ticked the checkbox "parse content as wiki page" or is it not there ?
stripmind: luciash: same error message with {wiki}{rcontent id=1}{/wiki} in the assigned module - Fatal error: Call to undefined method TikiLib::get_random_content() in /home/strip
'must be wiki parsed' is checked.
removing the plugin seems to make it work tho!
luciash: good so far
stripmind: so, what's the function of the plugin? if rcontent is also wiki syntax?
so far? what's next?
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stripmind: would this be considered a regression bug? for someone (like me) who upgrades and uses rcontent the way I was, they get WSOD without really knowing what's causing it.
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stripmind: well, in any case, {wiki}{rcontent id=1}{/wiki} now does what I wanted to do.
thanks both marclaporte and luciash
hunh. I tried to submit this as a bug, but i can't see it to follow it. first bug report...
http://dev.tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=2797
chealer: eh
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chealer: stripmind: I guess you made your point
stripmind: ?
hahah
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stripmind: do you mean it's parsing the code I quoted in the report to give the WSOD?
that is funny.
I'll resubmit hopefully in a way that makes it legible.
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chealer: stripmind: in all likelihood
CIA-75: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22135 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
tikiwiki: [ENH] New toolbar dialog type tools.
tikiwiki: First one: external link
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CIA-75: tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22136 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php:
tikiwiki: [FIX] $modified['feature_perspective'] notice regression from r20241
tikiwiki: lphuberdeau: might want to check that's what you meant
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22137 10/trunk/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php:
tikiwiki: [ENH] New toolbar dialog type tools.
tikiwiki: Second: table builder (v1)
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22138 10/trunk/lib/ (headerlib.php toolbars/toolbarslib.php): [MOD] Move include_jquery_ui() into headerlib where it belongs
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22139 10/trunk/lib/dcs/dcslib.php: [FIX] quote contentId identifiers
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22140 10/trunk/lib/setup/perms.php: [FIX] groups_are_emulated notice
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CIA-75: tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r22141 10/trunk/ (10 files in 6 dirs):
sylvieg: in the oldies ..the pagetitle was above - now it is in wiki text :-(
CIA-75: tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r22142 10/trunk/tiki-all_languages.php: - Fixed a bug in tiki-all_languages, for when you follow an alias.
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CIA-75: tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r22143 10/trunk/tiki-assignpermission.php: [MOD] Refactoring the showing of inherited perms to be more correct (to be able to take account of all including situations) - in preparation for next commit
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CIA-75: tikiwiki: 03nkoth * r22144 10/trunk/tiki-assignpermission.php:
tikiwiki: [MOD] If Anonymous is not automatically included in other groups unless
tikiwiki: specified, in 4.0, then the showing/shading out of perms as "inherited from
tikiwiki: Anonymous" should not happen automatically as well (otherwise it's not possible
tikiwiki: to set them normally)
chealer: luciash: ah, so value was a text field - great fix! it's useful to look at error messages too :)
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luciash: chealer: what ? :) you mean the pgsql problem with tiki_preferences field value+1 ?
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cheal: luciash: yeah
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chealer: luciash: did you find how to enable general log of queries with postgresql?
luciash: nope, i am focused on something else here now currently... i will come back to pgsql later again
maybe sunday ?
chealer: luciash: no problem, I installed postgres now so it should be easier for me :)
luciash: I may be there on sunday as well
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-: sylvieg is upset - comments are threaded but tracker comments do not use comment lib - so tracker comment are not htreaded -.. killl code duplication
chealer: luciash: oh, and the empty menu seems to be a new issue not specific to pgsql - tracking that
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Kissaki: pah
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Kissaki: and polom
shitty Erfahrungsbericht abgesendet
luciash: sylvieg: aye
chealer: ah, great, thanks for help
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luciash: Kissaki: was scheise ?
Kissaki: ^^
I sent shit via E-Mail
great, eh?
luciash: ah, sended :)
good it's over for now
Kissaki: oh shity, 1 already...l
now I said enough shit for... this hour
sylvieg: btw guys good job on postgres / sorry I do not have enough time these days- I would like to help - but was lazy a couple of months - now needs to work - otherwise my husband will laugh at me when doing tax report
Kissaki: ^^
-: sylvieg neds also to spend sometimes on ws
chealer: luciash: for the record, I did it with log_statement - it's not as nice as mysql's though
CIA-75: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22146 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [MOD] New default jquery-ui theme (smoothness recommended)
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CIA-75: tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22147 10/trunk/ (10 files in 4 dirs):
tikiwiki: [ENH] jQuery-ui dialog/accordion based wiki help
tikiwiki: Several layout changes and improvements (flush temp_cache for full enjoyment)
tikiwiki: Plugin help now a separate tpl (for future wysiwyg help)
marclaporte: tks jonnyb
-: jonnyb doesn't like checking in new code after midnight - awaits nervously...
marclaporte likes new resizable help
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dcedilotte: oops kiwicedille.info
scratch that last comment, it was supposed to go in a private to Marc Laporte.
Kissaki: uuh, interna
marclaporte: hehe
dcedilotte: : you are tying to use an old theme
just swap to a new 3.x theme, like strassa.css
dcedilotte: marclaporte: k
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Kissaki: dcedilotte: go clean your apartment!
marclaporte: hahahahah
dcedilotte: kissaki: do I know you?
Kissaki: yeah, I helped moving your things in
dcedilotte: Kissaki: I doubt it.
Kissaki: we met when painting ceramics
lol... no, you doubt right
marclaporte: dcedilotte : you saw annoucement for Tikifest MTL?
Kissaki: you are invited too
Kissaki: :)
dcedilotte: marclaporte: yep. I don't know if I'll be able to make it in person but I'll try there virtually.
Kissaki: MTL = Montreal?
marclaporte: yes
online, we will dogfood http://bigbluebutton.org/
chealer: marclaporte: where is Tikifest Toronto going to be?
CIA-75: tikiwiki: 03alain_desilets * r22149 10/trunk/tiki-editpage.php:
tikiwiki: - Do not insert preview when creating page based on a template. It confuses
tikiwiki: users because they clicked on something for creating a page, yet all they see on
tikiwiki: the screen is a read-only version of the page. They often don't realise that if
tikiwiki: they scroll down, they can get to an edit box for modifying the template. I have
tikiwiki: seen this many times when I taught workshops or gave demos on the terminology
tikiwiki: profile.
marclaporte: chealer: Nov 1-5- http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFest
chealer : are you thinking of coming?
oh, you wrote "where"
not sure yet. Nelson and Mike Pilling are investgating
chealer: marclaporte: *thinking*, yes
marclaporte: chealer : and MTL one?
chealer : I hope you can come :-)
chealer: marclaporte: thinking also
marclaporte: no crutches this time :-)
chealer: marclaporte: OK. a friend propose his Ottawa house's garage. but it will start being cold in November
marclaporte: hehe
In Ottawa, we can do at the Code Factory
chealer: marclaporte: yeah :) but I'm still not planning to go in bicycle. how do you plan to go to Toronto?
marclaporte: http://thecodefactory.ca/
I will be flying from Orlando
chealer: marclaporte: cool
I see
marclaporte: We could bus/train you in
But Quebec -> Toronto is quite a long bus ride
dcedilotte: marclaporte: Quebec -> Toronto would probably be better by train.
chealer: marclaporte: yeah...I've only been to Montreal alone, I don't know how it works farther
marclaporte: +1 to train