#tikiwiki 2009-10-10,Sat

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Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: HTML files in file galleries - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=34896	[00:03]
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chealer	hum, ~250 CAD for the round trip. that's a bit more than I thought (via rail) or hoped, anyway	[00:11]
marclaporte	chealer : some people will go from Ottawa chealer : what is your best guess window for completion of modules?	[00:27]
chealer	marclaporte: good. would they go on the first and come back on the 5th?	[00:28]
marclaporte	I think so	[00:28]
chealer	marclaporte: hum... marclaporte: looks like this would help - ~ 145 CAD I'll decide in some time marclaporte: completion of individual modules or the whole thing we discussed including the infrastructure?	[00:29]
marclaporte	just the modules	[00:32]
Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Borderless table - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=34898	[00:34]
chealer	marclaporte: we're at 1700 lines of module PHP code, down from 3700. window meaning at which date I think I would be done?	[00:36]
marclaporte	yes at this rate	[00:36]
chealer	marclaporte: I also hadn't taken into account the modules which do not have a PHP file when we discussed (completely forgot about them)	[00:37]
marclaporte	ok Am wondering if we can be 100% new module style in time for 4.0 Beta	[00:37]
chealer	ah, so we're supposed to be frozen now marclaporte: yeah, that should be feasible s/should be/is/	[00:39]
marclaporte	yes, we'll freeze for inclusion of major features tomorrow but minor things can continue to come in depending on the judgement of the release managed release manager and since no one volunteered, that's me :-)	[00:41]
chealer	hehehe	[00:42]
marclaporte	I am in favor of letting you continue work on modules until the last minute because I feel you solve more bugs than you introduce, all while improving the system and it's only once we are 100% in new module system land that we'll be free to improve stuff for real (in 5.0)	[00:42]
chealer	marclaporte: I'd agree. for now, I'm aware I caused 1 regression, which was normal-important. it's possible others fixed other regressions, though I tried to look at SVN logs and should have catched most. perhaps 2 regressions, not sure	[00:46]
marclaporte	If you can make it to Toronto and have everything finished by the end of the event, that would be quite nice	[00:47]
chealer	(ignoring quick self-fixes :) )	[00:47]
marclaporte	hehe	[00:47]
jonnyb	(i know i should be abed by now but) i have a couple more 'wishes' for 4.0	[00:47]
marclaporte	jonnyb: : tell us! jonnyb: : you are doing a superb job on interface. Congrats!	[00:47]
jonnyb	autocompletes on plugin fields (page, users, groups)	[00:48]
chealer	abed - having strong abdominals?	[00:48]
marclaporte	jonnyb: ah yes. Would it be easier if plugin window was jquerified like table builder?	[00:49]
jonnyb	maybe a'bed...	[00:50]
marclaporte	improvments to IMG plugin, with drop-down menus; this is very cool	[00:51]
chealer	jonnyb: oh, right. you're more likely to get a'bed than ab'ed.	[00:51]
jonnyb	we can do more of them after freeze ("we")	[00:51]
chealer	chealer dodges jonnyb	[00:51]
marclaporte	autocompletes on plugin fields (page, users, groups) -> is it about adding a class to the field?	[00:51]
jonnyb	:) chealer yup and a tiddly bit of jq	[00:51]
marclaporte	so far, wiki pages have code ready. But not user & group picker?	[00:52]
jonnyb	oh, and making the feeds for users and groups (others?) 'deed	[00:52]
marclaporte	yeah, we'll need that all over	[00:52]
jonnyb	jq-ui calendar pickers too textarea resize? (medium-trivial)	[00:53]
marclaporte	:-)	[00:55]
jonnyb	toolbar search/replace about a weekend's work? (and i was just dying to do my filing)	[00:55]
marclaporte	a week-ends work for which part? textarea resize is low priority because we have an alternative (+ full screen thing)	[00:57]
jonnyb	if only someone (else) could do autocompletes on trackers ;)	[00:57]
marclaporte	hahahahah	[00:58]
jonnyb	weekend = as much as i can manage	[00:58]
marclaporte	marclaporte can just imagine sylvieg saying she wants to refactor I'll be online this week-end	[00:58]
jonnyb	jonnyb scared of trackers	[00:58]
marclaporte	just let me know how I can help	[00:58]
jonnyb	too far away to make the coffee :)	[00:59]
chealer	marclaporte, luciash: regarding PostgreSQL 7, I hear that should be EOLed this year, so not worth much efforts	[00:59]
marclaporte	ok	[01:00]
jonnyb	i just typed "forward-slash sylvieg scared of jquery?" and it disappeared... wonder where it went (irc is a strange place) jonnyb should sleep	[01:00]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22150 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: simpler implementation for r22119 ([ADD] switch for postgres when $query_cond is empty because resulting "SELECT FROM ... WHERE 1 AND ..." didn't work)	[01:02]
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marclaporte	Postgresl 7 is what cPanel seems to be offered with	[01:03]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22151 10/trunk/lib/core/lib/Perms/ResolverFactory/CategoryFactory.php: [FIX] hopefully last shot at identifier quoting here	[01:04]
marclaporte	chealer: I am ok with setting requirements to recent versions of PG marclaporte prefers PG 8.x support to no support at all....	[01:16]
chealer	marclaporte: yeah, my point was perhaps even stronger. if we didn't achieve pgsql support in 5 years, it's a loss of time to try supporting old versions.	[01:18]
marclaporte	agreed Same thing for Windows Server 2003 support	[01:18]
chealer	debian still ships PG 7 in oldstable, but that won't be supported in a few months. cPanel must need to upgrade	[01:19]
marclaporte	we should first focus on Windows 2008 support	[01:19]
chealer	woo, flashy Kalture icon	[01:21]
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dcedilotte	!help	[01:29]
Tikiwiki\|bot	You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .	[01:29]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22152 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [FIX] Avoid unwanted message in admin panels	[01:38]
luciash	hey guys, anybody wants me to merge this User Information page revamp to trunk ? → http://healingprofiles.com/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php err, i mean http://healingprofiles.com/tikiwiki/tiki-user_information.php?view_user=test i should get some sleep too i guess :-p	[01:43]
marclaporte	luciash : looks good a bit large though I guess with modules, it looks just right	[01:48]
luciash	you mean the site width is large ?	[01:49]
marclaporte	yes tiki-user_information.php -> does this also show actions? (forum posts, wiki page edit, etc...)	[01:49]
luciash	yep, but the user information page i mean yep, let me enable it i am revamping the user preferences screen too, but not done yet i am asking because tomorrow/today is the feature freeze day marclaporte: reload the page you will see the contribution tab	[01:50]
marclaporte	just template re-org?	[01:56]
luciash	yes haven't touched the php for this page	[01:56]
marclaporte	if you are there to fix reported bugs, go for it!	[01:56]
luciash	fix reported bugs ?	[01:57]
marclaporte	I mean if you break stuff...	[01:57]
luciash	i don't break stuff, i just try to make it look nicer ;)	[01:57]
marclaporte	:-) go go go!	[01:58]
luciash	:)	[01:59]
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chibaguy	polom experiencing white screen with trunk in my wamp server here, at r21152. heh, sorry, was a server problem. it's ok now.	[02:19]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r22153 10/trunk/styles/layout/design.css: [FIX] Toolbar picker (special characters) link color needs specifying to ensure good contrast (Darkroom had problem).	[02:47]
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cheal	5 cheal 's cat poloms. luciash: my problem with the application menu is gone. I'm looking at user modules breakage luciash: if you still get empty application menu, tell me	[02:50]
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chealer	luciash: hum, all modules seem to be working now...strange ah, still one doesn't work	[03:07]
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chibaguy	chibaguy imagines chealer's tiki installation with every module activated ;-)	[03:17]
chealer	chibaguy: yeah... I only tried a few. switch theme doesn't show. oh....right switch theme I should have known better	[03:18]
luciash	chealer: great ! thanks for helping with those fixes ! looking forward to svn up but dead now... gotta take some nap... later guys ! ah, switch theme requires user preferences enabled	[03:19]
chealer	luciash: heh, good night	[03:19]
luciash	good nigh... morning :-p	[03:19]
chealer	:)	[03:21]
chibaguy	cya later luciash :-)	[03:22]
chealer	luciash: yeah, got it now	[03:24]
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chealer	chibaguy: speaking about switch theme, it won't hurt to mention when the bug was introduced in your report	[04:09]
chibaguy	right. I'll check on that.	[04:12]
dcedilotte	How do I enable a feature that I installed using the modules/themes/features installation? (FYI: It doesn't appear in the features admin section).	[04:15]
chibaguy	dcedilotte, I'm not sure what feature you mean, or how you installed it.	[04:18]
dcedilotte	chibaguy: in the "Admin mods" section. I installed tinvoice. It appears in the menu as "My Invoice" but when I click on it, I get a message saying that the feature is not enabled.	[04:19]
chibaguy	What version of Tiki are you using?	[04:20]
dcedilotte	chibaguy: 3.2 but it's an upgrade of 2.0	[04:20]
chibaguy	very possible that tinvoice won't work with 3.2. I don't think anyone's been maintaining it.	[04:22]
dcedilotte	chibaguy: in that case, do you think people would mind if I tried to fix it?	[04:24]
chibaguy	sure, feel free.	[04:25]
dcedilotte	chibaguy: cool. I'll look into it tomorrow. Thanks for your help though.	[04:25]
chibaguy	ok. actually the admin mods feature itself may not work completely. So you should probably get around that by iinstalling the tinvoice files manuallym	[04:26]
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chealer	is it normal that the issue tracker doesn't automatically set Submitted by when I'm logged in?	[04:54]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r22154 10/trunk/styles/darkroom.css: [FIX] Same padding for button and button hover states to avoid movement during mouseover.	[05:46]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r22155 10/trunk/pics/icons/ (12 files): [MOD] [MOD] Gray-scale versions of bright blue icons for better compatibility with various theme pallets.	[06:56]
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chibaguy	What clues should we see that workspaces are happening in a trunk install? I can make a new workspace and group, assign a user to the group, activate the prespective module, and log in as that user, but everything looks the same and I don't notice any effect from the feature. btw, I had to add feature_perspective by hand in the db to avoid the error. I didn't see a checkbox for it. and apparently it wasn't added any other way.	[09:37]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22156 10/trunk/installer/tiki-installer.php: [FIX] SMARTY_DIR was set to a relative path	[10:07]
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luciash	polom	[11:24]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r22157 10/trunk/templates/tiki-show_page.tpl: [MOD] Reduced clutter of structures icons and links: replaced table with divs, moved "home" icon to left (more logical, standard position), moved hierarchy number to structure icon link title (visible on hover). tikiwiki: 03axold * r22158 10/trunk/db/ (5 files): [FIX] Fixed a bug in sql statement tikiwiki: 03axold * r22159 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Removed Workspaces Dev Tools	[11:42]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03axold * r22160 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Solved a bug in tiki-manage-workspaces.tpl	[12:08]
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marclaporte	jonnyb: morning	[12:51]
jonnyb	marclaporte: more or less ;)	[12:51]
marclaporte	jonnyb : how do I add a preference check on a tool??	[12:51]
jonnyb	in toolbarslib.php... which tool (they're all a little bit different) basically you set it with $tag->addRequiredPreference('prefname')	[12:51]
marclaporte	feature_filegals_manager	[12:53]
jonnyb	have a look at line 1146 (for switch editor) something similar should work for that (tikiimage)	[12:54]
marclaporte	1146: I see return parent::isAccessible() && ! isset($_REQUEST['zoom']);	[12:57]
jonnyb	by the way - i seem to be unable to admin my local tiki... and perm denied to change the perms :( ok, sorry - 13 lines above that (i'm editing...) most odd - admin user (userid=1) doesn't seem to have $tiki_p_admin anymore (was fine last night...)	[12:57]
marclaporte	I noticed weirdness as well	[13:01]
jonnyb	on an old tiki (was edit_fixup) on the same database it's fine... but looking at the commits after i crashed last night there's nothing perm looking happened...	[13:06]
marclaporte	can you add feature_filegals_manager to the image picker? (I will do the others following your example)	[13:08]
jonnyb	Nelson did a fix on tiki-assignpermission.php (aren't we going to kil that eventually?) ok, but i can't test anything here now :( so can't do anything - i'll go to the shops (need food, exercise, sunlight etc) (added the feature_filegals_manager thing but need to finish some other stuff before committing) - back in 30	[13:08]
marclaporte	tks!	[13:13]
luciash	hi marclaporte and jonnyb	[13:15]
jonnyb	polom luciash	[13:19]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22161 10/trunk/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php: [MOD] sub and sup shouldn't be in wiki syntax list since they are in plugins. Jonny: please confirm. Tks.	[13:20]
chibaguy	hello everyone :-)	[13:21]
marclaporte	polom chibaguy, luciash & all	[13:21]
luciash	jonnyb: i have CSS validation error on cluetip, property zoom is not correct CSS or something... anything we can do about it ? hi chibaguy !	[13:21]
marclaporte	tiki4 is looking good guys	[13:22]
jonnyb	yes, i spotted that luciash - i guess you could fix the file and let the guy know? i believe it's an ie6 hack :)	[13:24]
luciash	yup, must be something like that	[13:24]
jonnyb	anyway - off out now - back soon	[13:24]
luciash	c u	[13:24]
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	chealer: i svn upped my local pgsql trunk but still no menu :( chealer: when i clear the tiki cache i only get "Resource id #190" in the mnu_application_menu module	[13:41]
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	luciash svn upping ?	[13:57]
Tikiwiki\|bot	New Forum Posts: Large files causing Error 500 Server failure - are there TW database size limits? - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=34904	[13:58]
dthacker	polom	[14:09]
luciash	chealer: the menu works in sitemenu bar in siteheader though hi dthacker	[14:22]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22162 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: tikiwiki: [MOD] Turn off __Use File Galleries to store pictures__ on barebones installs, tikiwiki: until it can be made simpler to use. For reference, see long discussions at tikiwiki: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cms.tiki.devel/12221 tikiwiki: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cms.tiki.cvs/46355/	[14:23]
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changi	marc: is there some admin operation on themes ?	[14:39]
chibaguy	changi, what do you mean by admin operation? I've been taking care of themes.tikiwiki.org pretty much.	[14:45]
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changi	i was connected in ssh and suddenly a fork problem, " ls command not found", not prompt etc..	[14:49]
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ohertel	Hello!	[14:50]
chibaguy	ah, I don't know about the server on that level.	[14:50]
ohertel	Is it normal that the database dropdown on tiki-install is empty?	[14:50]
changi	it came back :)	[14:51]
chibaguy	hi ohertel. where do you see the dropdown?	[14:51]
ohertel	Tiki-install, 4. Database Connection empty dropdownbox and a (?) button that does nothing. Am I on the current branch with -trunk? ,) correct	[14:51]
jonnyb	hi ohertel - that certainly sounds like a bug	[14:52]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03chibaguy * r22163 10/trunk/styles/ (feb12.css layout/design.css tikinewt.css): [FIX] Same padding for button and button hover states to avoid movement during mouseover.	[14:52]
jonnyb	there have been changed in DB stuff for pqsql - might have hit something... i check here	[14:53]
ohertel	tiki4 is on trunk, right?	[14:53]
jonnyb	yup	[14:53]
ohertel	Not that I am working on something false. :P	[14:53]
jonnyb	this is on an upgrade? (existing db connection?)	[14:54]
ohertel	No Just did an fresh checkout to have a look at the german translation. But fail at the installation. :P	[14:54]
jonnyb	i get db menu even as a new install - i see mysqli, mysql, pgsql, sqllite	[14:55]
ohertel	Not me. :-/	[14:56]
jonnyb	i picks these up from what's compiled in php i tihnk what's your phpinfo like?	[14:56]
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olinuxx	hi all :)	[14:57]
jonnyb	maybe it's a pdo vs adodb thing	[14:57]
olinuxx	Is there french's speaker ?	[14:57]
chibaguy	I get only mysql and mysqli in my wamp server.	[14:57]
jonnyb	jonnyb denies being able to speak french	[14:58]
olinuxx	mmm marclaporte seem to be a french name ... :)	[14:58]
chibaguy	(so it reports what it finds, apparently, as jonnyb said)	[14:58]
olinuxx	jonnyb: :)	[14:58]
ohertel	I am on windows and have a default apache+php installation. Usually works without adding mysql somewhere. :-/	[14:58]
marclaporte	oui olinuxx	[14:59]
olinuxx	So i try in english : in tikiwiki (linuxmao.org) i want to know if there is a solution for ......... super marclaporte :)	[14:59]
jonnyb	jonnyb also denies being able to speak windows	[14:59]
ohertel	:P	[14:59]
olinuxx	est-il possible de savoir si une image dans wikiup est orpheline ? c'est à dire si elle n'est plus attachée à une page wiki ? je pense qu'o en a sur linuxmao +n marclaporte: ? peut être es-tu occupé ?	[14:59]
marclaporte	let's move to French space	[15:07]
jonnyb	olinuxx: there's a button in admin/wiki labelled "Remove unused pictures"	[15:07]
olinuxx	marclaporte: as you want, where ?	[15:07]
marclaporte	as jonnyb says (But I would make a backup first)	[15:07]
jonnyb	i've never tried it but if you backup your wiki_up you could do a compare after	[15:07]
olinuxx	#linuxmao ?	[15:07]
marclaporte	I saw bug reports about that	[15:08]
olinuxx	jonnyb: ok, what good news :) jonnyb: ok, so i've to ask to GillesM if i can make this (i've not the admin right)	[15:08]
GillesM	what ?	[15:09]
olinuxx	#linuxmao GillesM :)	[15:10]
GillesM	ok	[15:10]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22164 10/trunk/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php: [FIX] Add perm check (for feature_filegals_manager) on ToolbarFileGallery tool	[15:11]
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olinuxx	bye	[15:15]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22165 10/trunk/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php: [FIX] Partial rollback of r22161 - sub and sup should be there as ToolbarFckOnly tools	[15:18]
marclaporte	tks jonnyb, I wasn't sure about that	[15:19]
jonnyb	:)	[15:19]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r22166 10/trunk/templates/tiki-user_information.tpl: tikiwiki: [MOD] user information screen revamp - code indentation, converted to tableless + use tabs when tabs on + other enhancements tikiwiki: [FIX] some user information WYSIWYCA fixes	[15:32]
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	tikiwiki: 03frank_p * r22167 10/branches/2.0/lang/sv/language.php: translate "Table of contents"	[15:52]
marclaporte	wow Frank_p is living in the past :-)	[15:54]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03luciash * r22168 10/trunk/styles/ (darkroom.css layout/design.css strasa.css): tikiwiki: [FIX] darkroom theme: contrast fixes bg vs fg tikiwiki: [MOD] don't limit odd and even classes only to tables tikiwiki: [ADD] odd and even classes defaults to design.css	[16:10]
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FrankP_german	marclaporte : no, tikiwiki 3 no run on my online server	[16:11]
luciash	php4 ?	[16:11]
FrankP_german	this is the problem php 5.0.4 and mysql 5.0.41	[16:11]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03frank_p * r22169 10/branches/3.0/lang/sv/language.php: translate "Table of contents"	[16:22]
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	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22170 10/trunk/lib/prefs/multidomain.php: [FIX] typo tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22171 10/trunk/lib/tiki-js.js: [FIX] Failed when selectionStart == 0 (i.e. at the beginning of the text) tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22172 10/trunk/lib/tiki-js.js: [FIX] Oops, simpler/better test for moz/gecko browsers tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22173 10/trunk/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php: [ENH] Find and replace wiki edit tools	[16:39]
marclaporte	jonnyb: do we have test on javacript for toolbars yet? noJS: they disappear	[16:52]
jonnyb	i haven't checked recently i never got my head around Tests (like unit tests) oh, sorry - see what you mean um...	[16:53]
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jonnyb	doesn't look like it - i'll add one	[16:55]
ohertel	I am at a loop now... told it to install the db, restarted when the 'choose profile' came, and now I cant get out off the "tiki installer security precaution". filling in the fields just resets the page. sucks.	[16:55]
jonnyb	ah - are you in windows 64 bit system?	[16:56]
ohertel	yes	[16:56]
jonnyb	i heard about this - very odd bug, only on win64	[16:57]
ohertel	That doesnt help... that has to work.	[16:57]
jonnyb	it does a logout at the end of the installer now, to flush prefs etc	[16:57]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22174 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_img.php: [MOD] IMG plugin: Most obvious/important questions should be at top	[16:57]
jonnyb	yes, we need a developer with one of these systems apparently not happening on 32 bit systems	[16:57]
ohertel	As soon as I have a local.php, the installer is broken.	[16:58]
jonnyb	and this is a fresh install, y? so you haven't been logged in before?	[16:59]
ohertel	I guess with windows 7 most people will have a 64bit OS. No, not logged in yet. It's funny, each time we do a release of Tiki I have some serious install-from-scratch issues....	[16:59]
jonnyb	when you get to the last page on the installer you can just go straight to tiki-index.php (without clicking the "enter tiki" link)	[17:00]
ohertel	and I am a tiki long time admin... so how shall this work at all for new users?	[17:00]
jonnyb	it should be fixed	[17:00]
ohertel	jonnyb: I know, But I cancelled at the "profile selection". you have a local.php then and no data in the db yet. so you are lost.	[17:01]
jonnyb	ik	[17:01]
ohertel	Cant start with tiki-installer again, and cant login to tiki either.	[17:01]
jonnyb	delete the local.php?	[17:01]
ohertel	Sure I can do, but what about the default newbie installin on his shared webspace?	[17:02]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22175 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/function.toolbars.php: [FIX] Toolbar check for JS tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22176 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [FIX] Add perspective and MultiDomain to the admin panel	[17:05]
ohertel	Ok, it doesnt even import the profile in DB. At that point it breaks.	[17:08]
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chealer	luciash: thanks. yeah, I think I found where the issue comes from. I was too tired to report about my progress "yesterday night", I'll do it after my breakfast	[17:09]
ohertel	So Tiki4 fresh install not working on win/64bit. that sucks greatly.	[17:09]
Kissaki	wtf	[17:10]
marclaporte	jonnyb : tiki-admin.php?page=wiki -> Regex search and replace this can be removed? And people just need to put in their toolbars?	[17:10]
Kissaki	hello there	[17:10]
jonnyb	hi Kissaki marclaporte: i reckon - less prefs are better prefs (i'm still checking it in the tool tho)	[17:11]
marclaporte	ok	[17:12]
ohertel	can someone fix the installer security precaution? :-/	[17:16]
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ndowens01	I seen the themes available at themes.tikiwiki.org, is there any other sites that has themes	[17:18]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03ohertel * r22177 10/trunk/lang/de/language.php: updated translation, fixed umlauts, completed installer translation	[17:21]
luciash	ndowens01: i don't know any other	[17:21]
marclaporte	ndowens01 : http://zukakakina.com	[17:21]
ohertel	"completed installer translation" as far as I came... as it breaks. :P	[17:21]
ndowens01	thanks :-)	[17:23]
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chealer	hi ohertel. still eating breakfast, but which security precaution do you get?	[17:30]
ohertel	completed installer translation er $title = 'Tiki Installer Security Precaution'; that section in tiki-install.php Where it checks if local.php is available. Seems the $_SESSION['accessible'] = true; somehow fails.	[17:30]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03lphuberdeau * r22178 10/trunk/lib/workspaces/wslib.php: tikiwiki: [FIX] I18N tikiwiki: [FIX] Set-up category jail (not fully functional because hidden categories are not auto-assigned, but category jailing works where deployed for objects categorized in the workspace) tikiwiki: [ENH] Set-up permissions view for the perspective to prevent non-members from seeing it.	[17:31]
ohertel	cause I end in a loop on that precaution window...	[17:31]
chealer	ok, that's the "For your protection, this installer can be used only by a site administrator" one	[17:31]
ohertel	no not that one line 77 Has nothing to do with the db/lock // Installer knows db details but no login details were received for this script.	[17:31]
chealer	ohertel: well looks like that one to me, what message do you have if not?	[17:32]
ohertel	Sure there are no login details, cause the profile wasnt even installed yet! Right when I click "Install" on the profile page, I get that error. And even filling out the username+password for the Db just gives me the same page again.	[17:33]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22179 10/trunk/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php: [MOD] Change the way dialog tools init button (etc) data to allow more customisation per tool	[17:34]
chealer	ohertel: I don't see why you would need to install a profile to have login details. these are DB login details.	[17:34]
ohertel	yah, whatever... I cant get past this page.	[17:35]
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ohertel	it shouldnt even pop up on first install, as I just gave the data for db access 2 pages ago. and it has the local.php file now. But still prompts me. somehow the if (isset($_SESSION['accessible'])) { is always false...	[17:35]
chealer	ohertel: so you're hitting the file_exists('db/local.php' clause, but you miss the $_POST['dbuser'] == $user_tiki) && ($_POST['dbpass'] == $pass_tiki) clause? chealer goes to continue breakfast	[17:37]
ohertel	no idea. There is no need to use any post data as all it needs comes from the local.php. I guess this part is some "security gone wrong". I am unable to complete a fresh install now. On windows.	[17:37]
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ohertel	Ahm, uhm, so where are the dbuser/dbpass set at all? As post params? Cant find it... tiki-install.tpl has user/pass only- Hm, only this precaution block sets those via the form. So you get it always, even if you had entered the data 2 steps back... that is no good.	[17:45]
chealer	ohertel: there is. you have to compare the DB login details with those provided by the admin/user.	[17:55]
ohertel	er, no why. maybe you dont understand: I go through the install pages ... I enter the new database connection data i choose a profile NOW I get asked that I need to make sure I am the admin, by typing the connection data again. Thats ridiculous for a first install. And it even fails to go on after that.	[17:56]
chealer	ohertel: that is a bug, for sure	[17:57]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22180 10/trunk/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php: [ENH] Another dialog tool - wiki links	[17:58]
chealer	ohertel: you can argue there is no need to check credentials until the installation is completed, but tiki-install.php is not only used at the installation.	[17:59]
ohertel	Yes But it doesnt work at all. that security check just prevents any further step. Someone said it is a windows 64bit problem, but I dont know why apache/php should handle posts and stuff different on windows 64bit systems. Oh and one thing: if (empty($_REQUEST['install_step'])) { $install_step = '0'; } else { $install_step = $_REQUEST['install_step']; }	[17:59]
chealer	jonnyb: did you see edit warning popup bugs on admin modules? it seems related to the text area to create a user module.	[18:01]
ohertel	that parts is in tiki-installer.php But never gets executed when you get that security thingy... so the process will loose which step you were at, currently. Who wrote that part? he should go fix it. :P	[18:02]
jonnyb	hi chealer - yes, seen it fixed it broke it seen it again ;)	[18:03]
chealer	jonnyb: OK...well, as long as you're aware of the problem	[18:04]
jonnyb	on it	[18:04]
chealer	ohertel: it's not like you're supposed to hit Tiki Installer Security Precaution somewhere other than at step - ohertel: it's not like you're supposed to hit Tiki Installer Security Precaution somewhere other than at step 0 ohertel: but to answer your question, IIRC luciash committed [some of] the code, but he told me mose was behind it	[18:05]
ohertel	So where should it know from that it is in a first time install and not called later? I see no code for that. as soon as it wrote the local.php, the installer thinks "this is a later call, lets do the security check". And as the local.php is written before you select and install the profile --> security popup.	[18:12]
chealer	ohertel: that's what I was explaining, it does't know (but it doesn't need to neither)	[18:13]
ohertel	Sure it does, cause it fails right now.	[18:14]
luciash	ohertel, you are known to use apache security mods... isn't this some reason for your installing trouble on that system ?	[18:15]
ohertel	I am on my local apache with no modules at all.	[18:15]
luciash	ok	[18:15]
ohertel	Only the needed ones, mysql, php...	[18:15]
luciash	just a thought ;)	[18:16]
ohertel	I just guess no one except me ever does clean installs. did you try one? can you go through the full install?	[18:16]
luciash	ohertel: i do to test stuff on my localhost it's 32 bit ubuntu though ;)	[18:16]
ohertel	That shouldnt be of any matter.	[18:17]
luciash	last fresh install was the pgsql test of trunk here	[18:17]
ohertel	if posts and session data and stuff is handled differently on ubuntu/windows and 32/64 bit, then something is really borked.	[18:17]
jonnyb	64bit mac os - last clean installed a couple of days ago, no probs (except clunkiness)	[18:18]
luciash	i can quickly try svn co of trunk and test with new db if you want ah, you're on windows... well, no way to test here :( i use linux exclusively but i haven't touchet installer more than one year i think anyway *touched	[18:18]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22181 10/trunk/lib/smarty_tiki/block.textarea.php: [FIX] Stop 'save last changes' dialogs on beforeunload when textarea not changed as the form is shared	[18:21]
chealer	ohertel: no, that's not the installer's reasoning ohertel: as I wrote, you don't need to have a profile installed, we're talking about DB credentials	[18:24]
ohertel	Yes... But the install process fails ... to get tiki running, you need to install a profile. and then clicking "install" on profile page, you get that security page, and have a fallback to step 0. and then-> and then grrrrrr "and when"	[18:25]
chealer	ohertel: I maintain that's not why it's failing. you're just assuming the installer knows whether we're on an initial install, but that's not the case.	[18:26]
ohertel	I dont care WHY it is failing. ,) Its broken for me. Thats all that matters. If you have any idea how to fix it, tell me. :P	[18:26]
chealer	I'm pretty sure the installer isn't generally broken ohertel: well, it would help if you'd answer my questions	[18:27]
ohertel	which question? I answered I am on local apache, not on my linux with mod_sec	[18:28]
chealer	that was luciash's question [13:32:51] <chealer> ohertel: well looks like that one to me, what message do you have if not?	[18:28]
ohertel	doesnt make any sense like that, without the context. if not what? There is no message or something... I go though install, on "Install" profile I get the security page and am back to "choose language". No other messages, no nothing.	[18:29]
chealer	ohertel: what message do you have if it's not the "For your protection, this installer can be used only by a site administrator" one I was asking you about?	[18:30]
ohertel	as I said. no other messages.	[18:31]
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ohertel	On http://127.0.0.1:8080/tiki-install.php?install_step=4 (install profile) I get Tiki Installer Security Precaution	[18:32]
chealer	ohertel: OK, could you give us a screenshot or make a screencast of your issue?	[18:32]
ohertel	and as soon as the local.php exists, I then get "Tiki Installer Security Precaution" even right after the language selection...	[18:33]
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ohertel	http://xp2.de/pix/TikiInstallerSecurityPrecaution.png right before i click "install" on the profile selection page. right after I get the language selection	[18:37]
chealer	ohertel: that is precisely the message you claimed you didn't have	[18:40]
ohertel	??? I said several times I get this precaution message. nothing else.	[18:40]
chealer	[13:31:42] <chealer> ok, that's the "For your protection, this installer can be used only by a site administrator" one [13:31:48] <ohertel> no [13:31:51] <ohertel> not that one anyway [13:37:05] <chealer> ohertel: so you're hitting the file_exists('db/local.php' clause, but you miss the $_POST['dbuser'] == $user_tiki) && ($_POST['dbpass'] == $pass_tiki) clause?	[18:40]
ohertel	Dont know where it fails. As it looks in the code, the dbuser and dbpass are never set except in this precaution block. And as the precaution block doesnt know which step we are in, it will fall down to language section afterwards.	[18:41]
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ohertel	And as the dbpass and dbuser are ALWAYS checked in POST variables when there is a local.php, you will ALWAYS get that page on first install, too. Or do I miss something in the code? maybe the install should write the dbuser/pass into the SESSION and if it is there the security page is blocked?	[18:43]
chealer	ohertel: I'd strongly recommend starting by checking if you hit the file_exists('db/local.php') clause ohertel: dbuser and dbpass aren't really set in the code, they're POST values PHP handles that	[18:46]
ohertel	yah, i've seen. but html code is code, too. :P So it is set in the code, via form. and there is not much code to check ... in the if (file_exists('db/local.php')) it gets the local.php data ... if the file is not there, it sets $_SESSION['accessible'] = true; So as I have the local.php when clicking "install" on the profile page, accessible is NOT set. So it will show the security page.	[18:48]
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ohertel	hm, there is this set in the installer: $_SESSION["install-logged-$multi"] = 'y'; I could check if that is y and then discard the security page... or i better set my own variable	[18:54]
chealer	what means the pattern used in installlib.php arounf line 150 in the default case, preg_split("#(;sn)\|(;srn)#", $command) ?	[19:03]
ohertel	splits the data at any windows and unix linebreak. :)	[19:04]
chealer	I can't see what the number sign does	[19:04]
ohertel	I think it's just a replacement for //	[19:05]
chealer	yeah, I would understand "(;sn)\|(;srn)" AH	[19:05]
ohertel	if you have regex with / in, you can replace the matching // around with # for easier handling. :)	[19:05]
chealer	and for my curiosity, why do we need / / (or # #) at all in preg_split()?	[19:06]
ohertel	like if ($a =~ ///) ... is easier to read if you use if ($a =~ #/#) instead No idea why its needed there, maybe a bug? :)	[19:06]
chealer	ohertel: because I see preg_split()'s doc does use slashes everywhere	[19:07]
ohertel	Hm, its with ## for oci8 and default, non in sybase and mssql ... strange... weird code. :) just reading on php.net... seems to be optional.	[19:08]
chealer	yeah, but sybase and mssql use split() instead of preg_split()	[19:11]
ohertel	In the users examples, some use the ##, some dont. ah hm...	[19:11]
chealer	on http://ca.php.net/manual/en/intro.pcre.php it says "The expression must be enclosed in the delimiters, a forward slash (/), for example."	[19:12]
ohertel	looks ok for me like it is. ah	[19:12]
chealer	so it's to allow pattern modifiers ohertel: thanks much	[19:12]
ohertel	I see some using //, some %% and some others use ##	[19:12]
chealer	yeah, I understand the use for different delimiters	[19:13]
ohertel	Yah, using / if you are trying to parse paths is pretty silly. :P Ok, I dont know how to fix the installer... what I tried doesnt work. :P	[19:14]
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chealer	jonnyb: thank you	[19:25]
jonnyb	my pleasure (well, by bug ;)) by=my	[19:25]
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chealer	hehe	[19:41]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22182 10/trunk/templates/modules/mod-terminology.tpl: tikiwiki: revert r22141 on mod-terminology.tpl tikiwiki: [FIX] colon outsitde tr block tikiwiki: [FIX] undefined terminology_profile_was_installed tikiwiki: [FIX] unclosed p tag tikiwiki: doc link should be English by default tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22183 10/trunk/templates/modules/mod-terminology.tpl: it seems user guide page was renamed	[20:00]
	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22184 10/trunk/lib/ (jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js tiki-js.js): tikiwiki: [ENH] Wiki plugin edit form now jquery-ui'ified (if jq.ui available) tikiwiki: Still optional, but at the moment comments can use plugins, so the lib is loaded for that it uses it even if feature_jquery_ui is off. Probably needs recifying. tikiwiki: Oh, and testing on IE/Chrome - TODO	[20:10]
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marclaporte	jonnyb: tks for jquerifying plugins	[20:34]
jonnyb	hope is ok - not the most tested code i've ever committed ;)	[20:35]
marclaporte	hehe editing plugin still uses old code	[20:37]
jonnyb	yup - just a new shiny thing on the front	[20:38]
marclaporte	need to keep the old non-jq version in tiki-js.js as jq-ui is optional (Tiki 4.0) -> why do we want this? isn't this keeping duplicate code? if JS is on-> Jquery, else, nothing (for lynx browser)	[20:38]
jonnyb	about a page or so - refactor later	[20:39]
chealer	jonnyb: did you also get the "Your edit session will expire in 1 minute.You must PREVIEW or SAVE your work now, to avoid losing your edits." popups on admin_modules after ~10 minutes? these seem to persist	[20:39]
jonnyb	ooh, good point chealer - forgot about that - will fix soon/later (pester me if i forget)	[20:40]
chealer	jonnyb: you mean pester you more? sure	[20:41]
jonnyb	:)	[20:42]
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marclaporte	jonnyb: you realize that current find is not find & replace?	[21:08]
jonnyb	how do you mean? replace is (find and) replace fck has two...	[21:09]
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luciash	find icon is broken 4 me	[21:13]
marclaporte	marclaporte too	[21:13]
luciash	doesn't work either	[21:13]
marclaporte	new find tool has nice jquery interface. +1 but old find thingie permits Regex find & replace	[21:14]
jonnyb	so does replace - same code	[21:14]
marclaporte	I personnally use browser for search and see no value to this feature. But some people may ask	[21:14]
jonnyb	(icon for find coming, apologies)	[21:14]
marclaporte	ah?	[21:14]
luciash	i tried and nothing happened for me (even no find)	[21:15]
marclaporte	but there is no text box to put "replace" text	[21:15]
jonnyb	hi luciash - how about the other? (table, link)	[21:15]
marclaporte	(on Chrome)	[21:15]
luciash	hi jonny	[21:15]
jonnyb	the find one only does find replace does replace	[21:16]
luciash	after svn up i see only "find text" in the toolbar	[21:16]
jonnyb	you prolly need to add it (on toolbars admin)	[21:17]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22185 10/trunk/pics/icons/find.png: [FIX] Missing icon (oops)	[21:17]
luciash	ah, find works, but i dont understand: why i have to click the button to find (i tried enter and nothing happened) second issue is i search for "ODE" and it highlights "wbo" in the wiki page code	[21:19]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22186 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_img.php: [FIX] Don't give "not found" error if src set (may result in broken image if not found)	[21:20]
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luciash	in Opera	[21:20]
jonnyb	non-trivial (i don't understand either) http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=jquery+ui+dialog+return+key	[21:20]
luciash	actually it highlights anything but ODE in CODE ;) in FF3.5 it works fine	[21:21]
chealer	luciash: the main problem remaining with postgres seems to be bytea fields, which are returned as stream resources instead of string. I've been diverted into the easier problem of the installer on which I'm quite advanced. still need to finish a regex job and I'll give my status	[21:22]
luciash	chealer: ooooh, bytea ??? it's a "spanish village" for me. thanks for letting me know and keep it on ! ;)	[21:24]
chealer	luciash: heh, seriously - google doesn't seem to know much about it. it's similar to MySQL BLOBs	[21:25]
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jonnyb	can anyone think of a wikiplugin that has a page name parameter?	[21:27]
luciash	the jQuery UI Wiki Help is nice ! thank you jonny ! TRACKERLIST	[21:28]
jonnyb	some icing i thought 4.0 deserved thx	[21:29]
luciash	chealer: ah	[21:29]
chealer	luciash: tiki_user_modules is a bytea, for example	[21:30]
jonnyb	luciash: TRACKERLIST's just MAD! any others? ;) (do you mean the 'wiki' param? btw?)	[21:31]
marclaporte	jonnyb: PluginInclue PluginInclude and it's one where a picker would be very useful	[21:32]
jonnyb	ta	[21:32]
marclaporte	related wish : http://dev.tikiwiki.org/wish1801 jonnyb is my hero for http://dev.tikiwiki.org/wish2668	[21:43]
jonnyb	i thought i'd remove the half finished in-page page name autocomplete now the dialog tool seems to work - it was always going to be flakey	[21:46]
marclaporte	ah?	[21:46]
chealer	ouch. I'm getting a PHP segfault on a preg_match_all("#(.r?n)#m", $command, $statements); which is trying to get $command as a whole in $statement, in a single match is there something wrong with that? it's useless, but I'm trying to get somewhere more refined after	[21:46]
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jonnyb	there's a memory limit on preg things i think, chealer	[21:50]
chealer	jonnyb: and does PHP reach its memory limit with just a segfault?	[21:52]
jonnyb	wouldn't have thought so, but sounds sort of seggy	[21:52]
luciash	chealer: you miss ending parenthesis	[21:56]
marclaporte	jonnyb: if you think it's too flakey, we can try again in 5.0	[21:56]
chealer	luciash: hum, at which place?	[21:57]
luciash	chealer: ah, sorry, it was wrapped here, my bad read	[21:57]
jonnyb	ah, oh yes marclaporte - did you see it? firefox only and it didn't really work 100%	[21:57]
luciash	chealer: what does # there ? i know only /.../	[21:58]
marclaporte	it was very cool	[21:58]
jonnyb	it was very hacky	[21:58]
marclaporte	seemed to break sometimes	[21:58]
jonnyb	the browsers don't tell you where the text caret is (in pixels), so there's huge messing about to fake it	[21:59]
chealer	luciash: / is basically just a convention. installlib.php seems to prefer # #. I guess I could switch it to slashes, but these should work	[21:59]
luciash	ook	[21:59]
chealer	luciash: it's useful when you use slashes in a regexp...which is not the case here	[22:00]
luciash	chealer: preg_match can hold only limited bytes	[22:03]
chealer	luciash: what do you mean? I know $command is not too large for preg_match, because it doesn't with other patterns	[22:04]
luciash	in matches array	[22:05]
chealer	s/doesn't/doesn't segfault/ luciash: hum, that's strange, because $command has no problem to contain the whole tiki.sql luciash: at worst, $statements should contain an array with a string as long as $command.	[22:05]
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luciash	chealer: http://mobile-website.mobi/php-utf8-vs-iso-8859-1-59 chealer: it's considered a bug → http://cz2.php.net/manual/en/function.preg-match.php#88587	[22:08]
chealer	luciash: right. thank you :\| my problem is SQL comments in tiki.sql combined with the multiline statements and the fact that PostgreSQL errors with empty statements	[22:11]
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CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22187 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_include.php: [FIX] Missing filter	[22:56]
luciash	sylvie ? sylvieg: i don't get line $smarty->assign_by_ref('filterfield',$filterfield); in wikiplugin_trackerlist.php sylvieg: why is it re-assigned twice again on the folowing lines and never used in tiki-plugin_trackerlist.tpl ?	[23:04]
CIA-75	tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22188 10/trunk/lib/tiki-js.js: [ENH] Page name autocomplete on plugin form (where filter=pagename)	[23:06]
luciash	sylvieg: the assigned $filterfield is not used in included tracker_item_field_value.tpl either luciash can't see how it can work does wikiplugin_trackerlist.php include wikiplugin_tracker.php and some tpl where it is used is assigned there ?	[23:09]
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lindon_	luciash: how is the file gallery thumbnail called?	[23:41]
luciash	lindon_: tiki-download_file.php?fileId=1&thumbnail	[23:42]
lindon_	is that the original jpg thumbnail or is it stored in file gallery? in image gallery it's stored separately	[23:43]
luciash	it is the thumbnail which is displayed when you browse images in file gallery you can even simplify the syntax btw: {img fileId=1 thumb=shadowbox}	[23:45]
lindon_	ok i'll fix the thumbnail thing	[23:47]
luciash	or colorbox i will add the support for colorbox keyword now	[23:47]
lindon_	sounds good	[23:48]
	by the way, titles are still not showing up in coorbox	[23:53]
luciash	they are but you have to use this syntax as with old shadowbox: {img src="tiki-download_file.php?fileId=2&thumbnail" link="tiki-download_file.php?fileId=2&display" rel="shadowbox[g];type=img;title=My Picture Title;width=640;height=480"} in the rel=	[23:55]

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