but you said it happens with full width sites for you too, didn't you ?
i will enable both columns on the SNiPTT site to see
sup gais :)
no I have the problem with the sites with col
what is the sniptt adress ? 
now there are 3 cols
GillesM: http://crystals.ourwiki.net
oliland: soup galoises :)
i've just finished the first part of my project documentation, also known as the "why did you pick this one" part
been playing around with stable and trunk versions as well, so much software
now its bugfix tiem >:)
great :)
luciash: why do you have fixed.css inclusion ?
I don't have it
I go to bed :)
see that later
gnite gilles
salut mose !
oliland: tnx for checking the bugs on dev.tw.o ;)
shit, just broke my glasses in two parts here :-p
ouch
crap product
i was just adjusting them on my nose and one part remained in my hand and the rest felt down :-\
*g*
i had a pair of mine break there years ago, when in class in high school :(
time to get new ones after i lost one pair at TikiFest Barcelona ;)
hehe
luckily i have one old pair here still but the vision is kind of dizzy cause they have slightly different dioptrics
funny
when mine broke i had no backup pair at all
ouch :)
that was fun, wasn't it ? ;)
it was back before i had a cell phone.... and i had no cash to use a pay phone either :(
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22310 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
tikiwiki: [FIX] Files galleries last modification date.
tikiwiki: oops. thanks Sylvie
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22311 10/trunk/templates/list_file_gallery_content.tpl: [FIX] oops
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22312 10/trunk/templates/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
tikiwiki: [FIX] ooooops
tikiwiki: [FIX] HTML special chars encoding
goodnight
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22313 10/trunk/lib/tiki-js.js: 
tikiwiki: [FIX] flip() and flip_multi() when called with a single argument, regression from r22058
tikiwiki: presumably fix getHttpRequest() when called without third argument. untested
tikiwiki: jonnyb: you may want to check this
GillesMM, I was curious about why your site is a little broken in IE7, so "saved page with CSS and images" in Opera to have a local copy to work with.
I first assumed the problem was CSS, but found that even with your stylesheet not used (so using only lite.css) the left column is still displayed below the other two columns.
So I wonder if you are using the default tpl files, or if they are modified.
(My local test is only of the final HTML page, so I can't see the tpls.)
Also, shadow layer seems to be turned on. I wonder if it's needed, or if there is any difference in IE7's results when shadow layer is off.
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22314 10/trunk/templates/tiki-install.tpl: 
tikiwiki: remove SQLite information
tikiwiki: [ENH] keep selected DBMS as default if connection fails
profiles.tw.o seems down
back
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22315 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] httprequest(): Assigning the return value of new by reference is deprecated
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22316 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] "Non-static method TikiLib::list_languages() should not be called statically" (declare list_languages and format_language_list as static)
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22317 10/trunk/installer/tiki-installer.php: 
tikiwiki: [FIX] $_SERVER["HTTPS"] is not always set
tikiwiki: [FIX] $cookie_name not set (r14048 cruft)
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22318 10/trunk/installer/tiki-installer.php: I forgot comments in r22317. sorry
tikiwiki: 03bergmann * r22319 10/trunk/lib/tikilib.php: [FIX] Add missing default value to update_page().
tikiwiki: 03bergmann * r22320 10/trunk/lib/test/TikiTestCase.php: [FIX] Make TikiTestCase abstract.
tikiwiki: 03bergmann * r22321 10/trunk/lib/test/importer/tikiimporter_wiki_mediawiki_test.php: [FIX] Add missing include so that mocking TikiLib works correctly.
tikiwiki: 03bergmann * r22322 10/trunk/lib/test/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [NEW] Add initial tests for TikiLib::parse_data().
tikiwiki: 03bergmann * r22323 10/trunk/lib/search/searchlib-mysql.php: [FIX] Add missing default value for find_wikis().
morning
anyone seen "Fatal error: Cannot redeclare c36v() (previously declared in /home/centran7/public_html/tikiwiki/db/tiki-db.php(1) : eval()'d code:1) in /home/centran7/public_html/tikiwiki/db/tiki-db-adodb.php(1) : eval()'d code on line 1" this before
Hmm
polom peeps
Now when you important guys turn up i get a very interesting new noise from my irc client, it's very exciting! :))
hahahahahhaahah
jonnyb: in a fresh install witht eh coe styles I have the plugin popup darkness/jquery-ui.css - so that I have white background and white text
hmm - (hi sylvieg) - it's supposed to default to 'smoothness' now
for that very reason (css defining color and not bg-color too)
but I think it is very dangeurous to define a color withjouit background
indeed
especially when it's done in two places!
polom
polom luciash 
hi jonnyb 
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22324 10/trunk/styles/coelesce.css: [FIX]coelesce: to avoid interference with the jquery-ui.css that can redefine the background without the color
anybody has an idea/opinion abot my fullscreen request ?
*about
http://irc.tikiwiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2009-10-13,Tue&sel=831#l827
rodrigo_sampaio: oi rodrigo !
rodrigo_sampaio: how r u doing ?
back later - bibi
luciash: : I have no opinion/ideas. But just the thing about robots...
marclaporte: ok
bbl too
hi luciash! i'm fine and you? how is vladislava?
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22325 10/trunk/lib/prefslib.php: notice
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22326 10/trunk/lib/setup/prefs.php: [FIX]another lastModif
hi rodrigo_sampaio too!
hi jonnyb!
how's tihngs?
jonnyb: fine, unfortunately working more with wordpress than with tikiwiki :(
jonnyb: and you?
tee hee, yes i'm testing a site at the moment that's build with WP - seems v popular these days
i'm well too thanks - too much work, not enough money (as usual ;) )
(got your mail - ta!)
jonnyb: i'm going for a meeting. i will be back after lunch. bye
is there something in jquery for character/word count when in edit mode?
no, but there is a word count function in tiki-js.js
I see
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r22327 10/trunk/lib/test/wikiparser/tikiwikiparser_test.php: [MOD] wiki parser tests: adding some basic wiki syntax tests
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22328 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_trackers.tpl: [MOD] increase email field size, since we often put several emails here.
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22329 10/trunk/lib/jquery_tiki/tiki-jquery.js: 
tikiwiki: [MOD] Some commented out attempts to make dialog/plugin tools work properly with Firefox 3.5 on Windows to come back to later.
tikiwiki: Will remove before release (promise)
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22330 10/trunk/lib/toolbars/new_file.js: [KIL] Removing test file that shouldn't have been committed
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22331 10/trunk/tiki-objectpermissions.php: notice
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22332 10/trunk/tiki-assignpermission.php: notice
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22333 10/trunk/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php: [FIX] External link tool: Remove link type menu, and make nocache obey cachepages pref.
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22334 10/trunk/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php: [FIX] Wiki link tool: obey feature_semantic pref.
jonnyb: ?
hi sylvieg 
I have Anonymous witht tiki_p_view . How can I set for a page tiki_p_view only for teachers
teachers includes anonymous
I think that the 'implied' perms should not use the checkbox but another mark??
um - don't you just check teachers then?
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22335 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_trackers.tpl: [MOD] reducing email field size, for smaller screens.
the box is uncheackable
so you're seeing the inherited perms? where anon is checked
just uncheck it?
then check teachers
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22336 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] Moving edit plugin out of Experimental and activating by default. Sub-page editing, be it with section edit, edit plugin helper, etc. is strategic to make wiki editing easier/more intuitive.
jonnyb: http://lonor.com/test1.gif
polom
polom Kissaki 
ah sorry I have to uncheck the default perms
sorry...
yup
no worries - it's not ideal, but cheap :)
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22337 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-look.tpl: [FIX] Moving jQueryUI to main section as the future is now :-)
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22338 10/trunk/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php: [FIX] Table dialog tool: Spaces now as default cell text, and stretchy input fields.
polom
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22339 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin_toolbars.tpl: [FIX] Admin toolbars now obeys feature_wysiwyg
treat IE6 a bit like no javascript
sylvieg: so, what is our French translation for (HTTP) cookies again?
I checked IE6's usage yesterday. still the most popular browser :( http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=2
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22340 10/trunk/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php: 
tikiwiki: [FIX] Wiki link tool: obey wikiplugin_alink pref, and prefil anchor with #
tikiwiki: (also improve with of tables dialog)
where the FUCK is my sound?
crap thing!
chealer: http://www.granddictionnaire.com/BTML/FRA/r_Motclef/index800_1.asp
humm niot very good
sylvieg: I forgot to try that one, but that's the same as I'm getting elsewhere. témoin or cookie
sylvieg: I didn't see any usage of "citation" in this sense yet
sylvieg: even Firefox uses Cookie
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22341 10/trunk/templates/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
tikiwiki: [MOD] Username autocompletes on login->switch user, admin users find and mail notifications admin.
tikiwiki: (also moved login su help icon and put some help text for the tooltip)
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22342 10/trunk/tiki-editpage.php: [FIX] Auto query arg for hdr (section edit)
tikiwiki: 03jonnybradley * r22343 10/trunk/lib/toolbars/toolbarslib.php: [FIX] No switch editor in section edit mode
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22344 10/trunk/templates/comments.tpl: 
tikiwiki: [MOD] Remove remarksbox below comments, as the main tip is no longer necessary,
tikiwiki: now that we have good tools. The other tip is not worth the clutter IMHO. What
tikiwiki: we could do is add a preference and let the admin put site-specific instructions
tikiwiki: on how to make comments. Please voice your opinion.
ricks99: : even without tabs?
yup. even without tabs :(
big issue (at least for me), epsecially considering how painful using filegal for wiki images is 
dthacker: : are you getting the hang on the release scripts?  I suggest a 3.3 release as a test run for the whole Tiki4 team
jonnyb:  do we have module list drop down?  (this would be nice for PluginModule)
not yet - i'm sure the data will be easy to get :)
hehe
off 2 pub - molop
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22345 10/trunk/installer/tiki-installer.php: [FIX] installer: Smarty $lang sometimes undefined
has anyone had issues with the RSS modules not linking correctly?  The RSS links show on my page and when I click the link - it is broken.  Anyone have similar issues or a fix?
FYI I am using a Google News RSS feed
I3igDmsu: could you give us an URL to test?
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22346 10/trunk/installer/installlib.php: 
tikiwiki: [FIX] empty page before refresh on DB creation due to tableExists() misusage.
tikiwiki: Solution: get rid of temporary tableExists() cache, which should have a very small performance improvement anyway
tikiwiki: regression from r22198. sorry
 New Forum Posts: "Allows to select each user for small groups" What is this? - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=34939
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22347 10/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [KIL] soft kill SQLite (broken convertscript, surely many other things)
GillesMM: : http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=34939
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22348 10/trunk/db/ (4 files): [FIX] registered users have no permissions / fewer permissions than anonymous on new installs (r22101 regression)
 New Forum Posts: Problems with attachements in forums - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=34940
When I configure my forums to use database to store the attachments, I have problem to download them even though they are successfully posted on the forums. But the downloading works if I configure the forums to store the attachments as files.  Anybody has any clue or suggestion on how to solve this problem? Any help would be greatly appreciated!  I am using tikiwiki-3.1 and MySQL 5.1. Thanks!
Ming_: are you aware that Tiki 3.2 was released?
Yes. Not sure whether the new version has fixed that problem or not.
!help
You can get a more complete list of commands that work with this bot at http://tikiwiki.org/TikiBot .
 New Forum Posts: Problems with downloading forum attachements stored in database - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=34940
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r22349 10/trunk/ (8 files in 3 dirs): [MOD] lesser magic deployment to articles admin template
chealer: http://valuebull.com/Home
related to the RSS linking problem
click any of the links under "Recent News"
I3igDmsu: what is the RSS feed's URL?
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=%22value+investing%22&nolr=1&output=rss
I3igDmsu: works here. does it work for you in tiki-admin_rssmodules.php ?
I want to install a wiki for internal company use. It will be used by a lot of people that don't want to learn wiki-syntax. I've tried out the wysiwyg CoE profile in tikiwiki 4 (from svn) and the WYSIWYG_Wiki profile for tikiwiki 3.2. My question to the comunity is what is the recomended way/profile to use wysiwyg with tikiwiki?
should I wait for 4, is 4 stable, or should I go with 3.2? and if I go with 3.2 with the wysiwyg profile, will created content have a bunch of html tags that will cause problems when I upgrade to 4 a later point?
oys: trunk is not stable
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22350 10/trunk/tiki-upload_file.php: notice
chealer: I guess that's pretty normal. I was thinking maybe it might be approaching stable and useable since it looks like 4 will be released in not too long.
so then I guess 3.2 with WYSIWYG_Wiki is the way to go even though it's labeled as not functional yet?
chealer: yeah it doesnt work in the RSS module
try valuebull.com
and under Recent News
the links do not wok
work*
oys: : yes
oys: :can you try and report how well it works?
I3igDmsu: does nolr=0 or output=atom make any change ?
AFAIK,  3.2 with WYSIWYG_Wiki  is the best option for now
I3igDmsu: ah, it is because the links contain url which is considered dangerous and sanitized as ur<x>l
I3igDmsu: you see the urlfeed param is broken
I3igDmsu: works on trunk. which Tiki version do you use?
i mean the url?
he uses 3.2
marclaporte: I've been reading through this channel's logs and will do. the documentation is a bit sparse. What are the various Editor_WYSIWYG_Toolbar_Recommended  and Editor_WYSIWYG_Toolbar_Simple  profiles? the documentation is a little sparse.
I3igDmsu: well, if it's broken on 3.2, maybe it was fixed on trunk
interesting is that only the first url appearance is "sanitized"
oys:  and as you discover stuff, you could tweak the profile
oys: the less it does, the more stable it is
chealer: thank you for your work on pgsql and the report
chealer: interesting is that i get the resource id# thing only in left module... when the menu is in top sitemenubar, it works in pgsql trunk
maybe it's for all modules like that ?
but when using {menu id=...} it works
pascalstjean wrote some of those WYSIWYG profiles. I am not sure what he had in mind
so then I'll try the company_internet profile and the WYSIWYG_Wiki and report bugs as/if they show up.
oys: I sent an email to pascalstjean about his WYIWYG profiles.
ping him when he comes online
marclaporte: will do
luciash: I see all URLs under Recent new "sanitized"
chealer: what is trunk?
s/Recent new/Recent news/
I3igDmsu: the latest development version of Tiki (unreleased), from our VCS
I3igDmsu:  http://tikiwiki.org/Glossary
I3igDmsu: also works under Tiki 3 for me
I3igDmsu: what do you mean by the RSS module? I was talking about Admin RSS Modules (View feed)
I3igDmsu: see for yourself in Tiki 3 : http://ido.ath.cx/tiki/3/tiki-admin_rssmodules.php?offset=0&sort_mode=name_desc&view=1 Credentials admin, admin2
did somebody notice that using firebug and scrolling down a page - the scrolling feature doens not highlight at eh right position - seems to work ok for other sites
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22351 10/trunk/templates/tiki-adminusers.tpl: [FIX]users: wysiwyg - the password change is only efffective for new user
chealer: thanks
chealer: hmm i am using 3.2 and it doent work for me
chealer: just look at my website, the RSS feed links do not work on the Home page
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22352 10/trunk/templates/ (3 files): [MOD] Requirement to set Sender Email: Harmonize messages and add one.
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r22353 10/trunk/installer/schema/20091013_fix_perms_tiki.sql: [DB][FIX] inst. schema 20091013 fix perms tiki: backticks + typo in filename
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r22354 10/trunk/installer/schema/200910113_fix_perms_tiki.sql: [DB][FIX] inst. schema 20091013 fix perms tiki: backticks + typo in filename
I seem to be unable to link to wiki-pages containing non a-z characters. I can create wiki the page, but not link to e.g. ((Øst))
this happens in both 3.2 and 4-svn
anyone else using tikiwiki working with non a-z alphabets?
I3igDmsu: I can see it on your website. did you look on mine&
sylvieg: you mean using inspect?
oys: did you notice the "Wiki link format" Wiki General Preferences parameter?
which I moved to i18n in TIki4, because most people didn't see it
chealer: nope. but changing it to latin made it work. it's so much easier complaining here than it is to read the docs :)
though I agree with marclaporte as it was not the most obvious place (in 3.2).
and because it (I guess) doesn't only affect the wiki