chealer: yup
all parser stuff, etc  we try to move out of wiki admin panel
oys : for WYSIWYG goeff is a good resource
luciash: right. it's a problem with tiki_user_modules.data, which is a BYTEA. that's where the mnu_application_menu module is defined. the menu itself has no issue
luciash: it's been a pleasure... except for an installer bug :-P
:)
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22355 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-features.tpl: 
tikiwiki: [MOD] Yet, more refactoring of admin panel. 1- Moving Search, Category and
tikiwiki: Freetags to Main features. 2- Multilingual already has own admin panel. 3- And
tikiwiki: score and fullcreen go to other features. This is debatable, of course.
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22356 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-i18n.tpl: [FIX] fix pref name
oliland: you in London?
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r22357 10/trunk/installer/schema/ (46 files): [DB][FIX] installer schemas: backticked all camelCaseName occurences
luciash: ...If I understand what you're doing, I don't think we need to care about already existing patches, since we have no non-MySQL installs AFAIK
chealer: just in case ;)
tikiwiki: 03marclaporte * r22358 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin-include-features.tpl: (log message trimmed)
tikiwiki: [ENH] logtpl (which adds comments in generated HTML to make it easy to find what
tikiwiki: .tpl file generated the actual html): adding the preference to the admin
tikiwiki: programmers section (in addition to admin theme). Programmers will appreciate
tikiwiki: this too. For people that are still uneasy with the idea of adding a preference
tikiwiki: in more than one place -> Recommended reading:
tikiwiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intertwingularity
ah, I was wondering about these comments yesterday
which comments?
the comments in generated HTML about .tpl files
marclaporte: i'm in Edinburgh :)
chealer: yes, cool feature
hum, so we have Support request in the same tracker as Bugs & Wish list? :|
marclaporte: yes. it's nice that's it's transparent. now even more if it's optional
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r22359 10/trunk/db/tiki.sql: [DB][FIX] tiki.sql: backticked all camelCaseName occurences
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r22360 10/trunk/db/ (tiki-4.0-mysql.sql tiki-4.0-mysqli.sql tiki-4.0-pgsql.sql): ran convertscripts
 New Forum Posts: Messages from Calendar - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=34943
tikiwiki: 03luciash * r22361 10/trunk/ (42 files in 38 dirs): [FIX] Look & Feel: was displayed as Look & Feel - iirc ampersands should be converted on-the-fly already in trunk
polom
hi gary
chealer: it was always optional, just different place
hi luciash. How's the snow?
getting worse ;)
there's blizzard all the night
wow
got some power outages at the evening but now it's stable
wasn't that long
i just hope it will get warmer still some upcoming days ;)
I guess you don't have to worry about frozen things thawing if the refridgerator is off - just take them outside.
heh, nope, no worries about that definitely
luciash: yeah, I should have wrote "now that I know, I find it even nicer"
ah :)
dev.tw.o seems down
damn, there are _some_ complicated queries in file galleries
pgsql trunk crashes on tiki-list_file_gallery.php with ERROR:  column "tf.galleryId" must appear in the GROUP BY clause or be used in an aggregate function
now if i knew how to write the aggregate function :)
ah, this sounds like an answer: http://www.mail-archive.com/pgsql-sql@postgresql.org/msg05377.html
dev up again
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r22362 10/trunk/doc/devtools/fckpackager.php: [MOD] dos2unix
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r22363 10/trunk/doc/devtools/ (5 files): [MOD] No php closing tags (Zend rules)
Hm, seems like modules in wiki text don't have flip (hide|show content) in trunk now.
About what Sylvieg said about Firefox Firebug CSS selector identify being off-target when checking Tiki pages, I noticed if the page is scrolled clear to the top, they are accurate...
... but as soon as you scroll the page down even a little, they become too far off, to the top. Don't know what that means, except I hope all everyone's problems are at the top of the page, if you need to use firebug. :-)
This wasn't a problem in earlier Firefox versions, iirc.
Also now there is a log of lag, for me, using FF and FB, not like before.
Im trying to create a site, where managers can register, login and put an event description, and perhaps an image up, and choose dates and times, and have people sign up for the event. Also and have the calender display all the registered events. Can Tikiwiki do this?/
ChevronX, yes. There's a profile that can be installed to configure those features, I believe.
Arh, I have just tried manually configuring it
If there is a profile. Will make it alot easier for me :-)
chibaguy, Thanks for the help, first time using Tikiwiki, and alot closer to my goal then other CMS I have tried to use and modify for my purpose
Have a look at profiles.tikiwiki.org. Also ask again here when there's more activity, I'd suggest.
Thanks :-). I will check out the profiles page. 
I have 2 projects, a Wiki based site and an event management site atm, and it looks like Tiki, will be suitable for both :-)
Which will make my life alot easier
That's the idea behind Tiki, I'd say.
Maybe this one would be good to look at: http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Americana_Event_Management_System
or http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Event_Management_System
Thanks, will check them out chibaguy 
ok
Hm, admin gets "you do not have permission to use this feature" when accessing tiki-admin_content_templates.php. Assigning explicitly doesn't help.
(in trunk)
HiAll
on tikiwiki.org uploading files give me blank page
http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-upload_file.php
 New Forum Posts: What, I am after, event management & event calender. Can Tikiwiki do this? - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=34944
can someone confirm this?
gezza, same for me.
wow. none of my 5 requests for dev.tw.o pages before I went to bed timed out. they're all still running
luciash: the query in that mail is really broken, won't work in DBMS.
luciash: the query in that mail is really broken, won't work in any DBMS.
luciash: I think in Tiki we mostly need to grow the GROUP BY clause. I fixed one or 2 queries of that kind
HiAll! does someone know if it is possible to include image as menü "name"?
when i make a menü I would like to include a small image before the menü text but the wiki syntax is not parsed
hello 
chibaguy:: hello 
luciash: hello 
hi GillesMM
I have to go out now but will be back soon.
chibaguy:  thanks for your messages
ok see you later :)
ok
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r22364 10/trunk/lib/test/wikiparser/tikiwikiparser_test.php: [MOD] wiki parser unit tests : test the non-parsing of "-- foo --"
tikiwiki: 03sept_7 * r22365 10/trunk/lib/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_image.php: 
tikiwiki: [CLN] avoid code duplication spotted by Pascal and Patrice testing infrastructure ! ;p
tikiwiki: please verify, but seems good ! ;p
 New Forum Posts: Problems with Paths - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=6&comments_parentId=34945
luciash: yeah, here's an easy one: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=E1MxG17-0001tO-GH%40c3vjzd1.ch3.sourceforge.com
hekllo folks
hello folksù
I'm looking for a tikiwiki plugin, I need to submit/get data fro  mysql from tikiwiki 
heverybody is sleepping?
I try sone but I cant' submit the data from anyone
polom
chealer: yea, thanks but extending the filegals query seems difficult (overhead) for me
luciash: what do you mean by difficult (overhead)?
hi luciash
chealer: lot of tti*,`` to add to the GROUP BY
err, sorry, the tfg. ones ;)
(was in trackers now)
hi GillesMM 
luciash: I don't consider it overhead. what we have currently is not proper SQL...you could call it underhead :)
heheh
:D
luciash: and it shouldn't be difficult. you do have to understand the feature, its tables and the query's intention
chealer: realized blogs work surprisingly well in pgsql
chealer: old feature from times when the queries were done right still ;)
luciash: I wish it was always that simple. categories would work at least
chealer:  sorry back to the RSS Feed question if you have time - i looked at your site and it works well for me.  on my site, the links are considered dangerous and sanitized as ur<x>l as luciash stated.  is there a fix other than upgrading to trunk?
I3igDmsu: we'd need to understand why just yours is doing that. as I think I showed you, mine work with Tiki 3, so under the same version as you
yeah i agree, hmm interesting...
I3igDmsu: maybe you and chealer put the rss feed in the wiki page differently ?
I3igDmsu: is it in wiki page actually or article feature or other Tiki feature ?
luciash: I didn't put the feed in a wiki page. I tested mine in Admin RSS modules
its possible.  mine is in a wiki page
chealer: hmm, but you said it works on your site... admin RSS is only for admins, not the same case as I3igDmsu has
he has it "published"
i bet in admin rss the content is not sanitized but when you put it in wiki syntax then...
thats possible, chealer could you try to publush on yours?
I3igDmsu: why don't you check Admin RSS Modules instead?
why is "Admin RSS Modules" called this way? shouldn't it be "Admin RSS channels"?
or feeds ;)
luciash: or that. we already use both feed and channel
hi jonnyb
this will result in great synchronization with luciash
chealer:  how do i set up an Admin RSS Module and how are they different from normal RSS modules?
I3igDmsu: oh, they're not. Admin RSS Modules is just a page to... manage RSS modules.
I3igDmsu: you must have used that page to create your RSS module, no?
yeah, "feed" looks better than "channel"
should we also get rid of RSS? is Atom well supported?
chealer: luciash is right, the links work in the Admin RSS Module but not when published to a wiki page
Atom seems supported
tikiwiki: 03sampaioprimo * r22366 10/trunk/lib/test/importer/tikiimporter_wiki_mediawiki_test.php: adding tikiwiki root directory to the path of the mediawiki importer tests
I3igDmsu: do you put it in wiki page just like {rss id=...} ?
yup {rss id=}
any opposition to renaming "RSS Modules" to "Feeds"?
can you try in module ? Admin > Modules
I3igDmsu: ^
and then insert in wiki page using MODULE plugin ?
no opposition
I3igDmsu: sounds like a RSS plugin bug then
luciash: what is the syntax to insert a module in a wiki page?
I guess we could also specify these are "read" feeds, not those generated feeds
so, any opposition to renaming "RSS Modules" to "Feed subscriptions"?
:)
I3igDmsu: {MODULE(module=my_module_name) /}
chealer: External Feeds
luciash: the feed works in a wiki page using that method
I3igDmsu: good to hear that this workaround works for you
is there a way to display it with notitle?
luciash: possible. one thing I don't like with that is it will sort under "E". I'd prefer it to start with "Feed"
i think directly including url= params in wiki page syntax is consdered potentially dangerous, that's why it is sanitized
I3igDmsu: yes. that's probably exactly the parameter's name
I3igDmsu: just put notitle=y i think or noborder ?
>doctwo PluginModule
http://doc.tikiwiki.org/PluginModule
I3igDmsu: ^
notitle is the name
no border is different
there's also decorations param but directly for modules
on Admin > Modules
hum, so User modules take Smarty, not Wiki syntax, right?
both
depends if you tick the checkbox "Parse wiki syntax" or something... or you can put {wiki}...{/wiki} there
luciash: I see...thanks much
jonnyb: in trunk, we have toolbars in Admin Modules User modules which suggest that wiki syntax will be parsed. this may be confusing, as that's optional and not done by default.
Aha - there should be a switch (on the textarea object) so whatever controls that should tell the textarea
it's probably toolbar=y or n
jonnyb: I agree in general, though I don't understand what you mean by "a switch (on the textarea object)"
jonnyb: whatever controls that is the checkbox "Must be wiki parsed." above
I3igDmsu: I can reproduce your problem. must be a rss wikiplugin bug
I3igDmsu: I can't reproduce it on trunk though, so it must have been fixed
luciash:  I worked on CSS IE7 I can't fix it ...
GillesMM, do you use any modified .tpl files?
(in that theme)
I went through your theme stylesheet and couldn't get rid of the IE7 problem. In fact even with the entire stylesheet commented out, the problem continued. So I was thinking, maybe something in a template file.
GillesMM: or try to set the center col overflow: hidden if it makes some difference... if yes then it will be margin/padding problem caused by content of the center col
(col1)
luciash, even with only lite.css active (and it's unmodified - I checked), the left column is still down below. Unless there is a specific IE7 css file that I didn't see.
If there are theme tpl, the directory could be renamed temporarily to see if the problem is corrected.
gotta walk dog. bbl.
hi pascalstjean
hi
marclaporte: ping !!
oys I've updated the documentation for the Editor Profiles. In short, after installing or configuring the WYSIWYG option. installing the WYSIWYG_Recommended or WYSIWYG_Simple will configure the toolbar depending on what your needs are
weird weird weird, i cannot reproduce the "Simplifed email format" in Tiki 3.2 sending the details and subject as seen on our dev.tw.o tracker
only the details are sent when it's not "simplified"... any idea what can be wrong that it is so different ?
or was it changed in 3.2 and still remains on dev.tw.o somehow or something ?
hi pascalstjean_ !
hi :)
thanks for the info :)
when putting a RSS on a wiki page using a model, the title is displaying.  the syntax for the module is {rss id=2 notitle=y}.
shouldnt this work?
using a module it is supposed to say*
I3igDmsu: no. rss is a Smarty function which doesn't know about the notitle parameter. it's the MODULE plugin that should know about the notitle parameter.
I3igDmsu: you have to put the param to the MODULE plugin like MODULE(... notitle=y)
that works, thanks guys
polom
moloq
 New Forum Posts: Login Module being weird - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=34948
tikiwiki: 03pkdille * r22367 10/trunk/lib/test/wikiparser/tikiwikiparser_test.php: [MOD] wiki parser unit tests: some more wiki syntax tests
hehe, moloq luciash
is there a way to edit FAQ questions and answers?
I3igDmsu: yes
jonnyb: http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/trunk/lib/commentslib.php?r1=20573&r2=20794 doesn't work
jonnyb: now, if section_comments_parse is disabled, non-forums comment is parsed or not depending on whether feature_forum_parse' is set
hi chealer - really? that doesn't sounds right
you mean false || false == true?
oh, right
sorry (busy)
jonnyb: yeah, the Wiki comments are parsed here even if section_comments_parse is not set
i see what you mean now
i suppose there should only be one pref really
or check $section==forums
jonnyb: I don't know how many prefs there should be. I have no problem with the current (trunk) design, as long as it works
if there's something as simple as $section == forums, yes
this probably won't work in tiki-list_comments.php, for example
yeah, $section gets set very early afaik
true
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22368 10/trunk/templates/tracker_item_field_value.tpl: [FIX]tracker: smarty syntax error
jonnyb: anyway, there's no rush, I can file a bug if you want
sylvieg: so, would oppose renaming "Citations" to Cookies?
+1
jonnyb: I suppose we'll also have upgrade issues. with  'section_comments_parse' => 'y'
because it wasn't used before, you mean?
jonnyb: people with Accept wiki syntax unset will get their non-forum comments parsed
so you'd need a DB patch to set section_comments_parse to feature_forum_parse
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22369 10/trunk/templates/tiki-list_comments.tpl: [FIX] HTML special chars encoding
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22370 10/trunk/templates/tiki-list_cache.tpl: [FIX] "Cache external pages" was renamed and moved to Admin textarea
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22371 10/trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): rename Cache / Wiki Cache to External Pages Cache
chealer: can you mass change in language files too ?
luciash: I don't think that would work. I'm guessing translators had too few context and did a literal translation. it was probably not even possible to distinguish
ah, right, it changes meaning
today i used this, but it was just &amp change ;) → http://www.paste-it.net/public/l9b1fe6/
never heard about replace
it comes with mysql here (man replace says)
luciash: ah. I had it, but assumed you were using something else of the same name. the program is hardly MySQL-specific
interesting anyway
more or less an improved tr
it's good for quick simple replaces but for regexp replaces something else would be necessary
it should probably be in moreutils
yeah, there's already sed for that
the manpage says it was used for mssql2mysql or something
tr is nice because it's simple, but it lacks flexibility
how would you pipe it to sed ?
yeah, but still it's in no way MySQL-specific, I was sure it wasn't the program you used just looking at the manpage's top
luciash: pipe what?
would this work ? → ...|xargs sed "s/Look &amp;/Look &/"
maybe there are two different "replace" binaries
or scripts
depends on what packages your system has installed
i tried with sed but somehow didn't succeed so i used replace as it was not necessary to use regexp
luciash: you'd need at least sed -e, otherwise the commands are red from a file
ah
thanks for the hint
luciash: hardly 2 commands of the same name in Debian
luciash: you'd probably also want '"s/Look &amp;/Look &/g' in case the file has multiple occurences of the string
or rather, in case a line in the file has multiple occurences of the string
ah
nice :)
luciash: and you'd want -i for inplace modification
heh, it grows ;)
is there a way to edit FAQ questions and answers?
hey chealer - you still about?
jonnyb: yes
I3igDmsu: yes
i'm just looking at your proposal for the notepad fix (22287) and can't see how to test it?
how?
jonnyb: the security vulnerability or the note 0 issue?
the note thing
jonnyb: well, they're both note-related :?
i don't really understand what the wiki overwrite button is for
jonnyb: do you understand the Wiki create button? create a wiki page from a note
oh, ok - it copies the note to a wiki page
weird label for that - and muddled with the wiki on the little (presumably) format menu
I3igDmsu: did you go to List FAQs/Admin FAQs and click the Questions icon?
anyway - looks ok, so +1
chealer: i sure did, but didnt see anywhere to edit them in there
I3igDmsu: so you see the FAQ questions section, the table and its Action column?
i see it now, sorry and thanks for the help
minichat is a plugin or module ?
cannot see it in list of plugins on 3.2
luciash: module
ah
is there known caching issue in 3.2 ? wiki pages seem to be cached (but no refresh icon) even when global cache is set to 0
or maybe it is just this server...
 New Forum Posts: Smarty error: [in evaluated template line 1]: syntax error: unrecognized tag 'pi_flash' - http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=4&comments_parentId=34952
sylvieg: could you double-check http://doc.tikiwiki.org/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=RSS+User&diff_style=sidediff&compare=Comparer&newver=0&oldver=9&tra_lang=de
sylvieg: I was going to do something similar. the text is quite broken
luciash: You might try a different theme in case the refresh icon is altered in the theme you're presently using.
SEWilco2: it's strasa theme... i don't think theme is involved
i will try to enable the wiki cache feature now if it changes anything
tikiwiki: 03eromneg * r22372 10/trunk/templates/modules/mod-articles.tpl: [MOD]Allow the use of a new parameter (showpubl=>y/n) to show the publishDate - to be used as an alternative to showcreated=>y/n
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22373 10/trunk/templates/tiki-admin.tpl: rename "Cache" to "External Pages Cache"
tikiwiki: 03chealer * r22374 10/trunk/ (9 files in 4 dirs): 
tikiwiki: rename RSS modules to External Feeds and RSS feeds to Feeds to generalize
tikiwiki: while we're renaming menu links, also rename "Wiki Cache" to "External Pages Cache"
tikiwiki: change External Feeds Admin help link to Feeds User
tikiwiki: 03sylvieg * r22376 10/trunk/modules/mod-since_last_visit_new.php: [FIX]since_last_visit_new: sefurl
how nice, MySQL has roughly 5000 reported bugs
"How about PostgreSQL?" 1... that makes all the others shallow: a mailing list for bug reports
sylvieg: what do you mean by "remove was not working with header" re r22225? http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=22225
was looping with remove
hmm, no luck... actaully it seems to be an issue with trackerlist plugin output caching items
in 3.2 at least
luciash: ?
trackerlist is not caching items..
pems are cached
in trunk it can be bugged
sylvieg: i have pretty tracker where user inputs something and it happens that with view=user the other users instead of seeing their own stuff they see last saved user tracker items
sylvieg: hum, I see, thanks
luciash: hmm .. never saw this one'
in 3 it is very secured (in trunk ... it is another problem)
and there is a bug in 3.2 when i added exactvalue=#user it breaks the wiki page with error that [] is not valid for string
do you have one user per item
do you have user can modify item
did you try exactvalue="#user"
only to see if it is a tracker error - or a plugin error
nope, it is not one user per item because it is tracker for "micro-blogging" posts, but on that page user sees other user's posts...
i will try
- but exacvalue=#user wil never works - there is no code for that
how come, there is code for that in trackerlist plugin
oops sorry I did not this one
I always use vire=user
view=user
ok
i just spotted it there and i extended it locally to support #userfriends view too
is having two trackerlists with same trackerid but different parrams on one page a problem ?
no should work
sylvieg: i will show you a demo of the problem
sylvieg: could you please go to http://crystals.ourwiki.net and register so i can give you perms and show you the problem ?
sylvieg
okay
validated
marc suggests I use 3.3 for  testing release process.  Is there a 3.3 branch? 
sylvieg: i am in as both, luci and admin
sylvieg: now when i accepted your friendship request you should be able to see my messages on your profile page
yes
now as admin i see your toot, and as luci i see your toot as well
now i will remove friendship as admin but keep as luci, okay ?
I am friend with luci and admin
ok
but friendship is cached if I weell remember
oh ? friendship is cached ?
do you see admin bubu ? or luci lulu test post now ?
dthacker: there is only 3.0 branch and proposed branch
dthacker: it's in proposed
no admin anymore
luciash: thanks
2 post from luci
sylvieg: ok, can you please post a message now ? i will test as admin
(when not your friend anymore)
sylvieg: can i refresh the page as admin
?
have you posted ?
I posted I am hungry
so far I understand working great
hmmm, weird... i cannot reproduce the caching issue now here .... :-p
thanks for testing... maybe it happens only when i login with two accounts in two browsers from same IP here
there is not a lot of cahe in tracjker
- probably not enough
:)
bbl food time